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[000:00:00;00] pensions because we still don't have our own production we don't have our own production i don't know for what issues uh reasons is it just sabotage or is it corruption or is it treason that it didn't happen on purpose but we need to have something to defeat the enemy but for now we just should rely only on western aid, which is wrong, and whatever russia's reaction is today, they may be angry, tomorrow there will be a huge speech again, but our goal is that this war can be ended only on the territory of russia, we must clearly count on this otherwise, it will never end, they will not end at the border of 1991, only a defeated russia means a calm one or two , at best, three generations of ukrainians in the ukrainian state. it is clear that now the format of ukraine's communication with nato is moving to
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a higher level, because the concept of the ukraine nato council is it is completely different from the commission, there are some bodies there, by the way, and this is all going on for so long, i even remembered a lot and the year 1997 or 98, when this ukraine nato commission started working later, because the bucharest one exactly. well, in short, that much there was everything in our long communication with the north atlantic alliance that is even worth mentioning. and on the other hand, we are looking at the results. there was very, very much work related to communication with western partners , including the north atlantic alliance what is the most important thing if you sum up these 25 years
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that have passed what has constantly hindered ukraine accession to nato if russia is in uh, or has it always interfered internally, some useful idiots are also a question of uh, yanukovych with his uh , these uh, ideocratic decisions, and with the fact that he removed from the military doctrine the clause about uh, threat from russia, that is, they used it, that is, what exactly prevented us from getting there earlier , why do we take so long to get to it? well, i just started my work after graduating from university at the ministry of foreign affairs in the nato department and this is my first day at work , it was the last day of borisovanovich's work tarasyuka well, that moment is very progressive and you know very well about the western
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minister that we remember now what is our path to nato , which really began with kharkiv in 1997 about a special partnership when the commission was created, the place of budapest itself in 2008 for us actually was invited to 14 , but we thoughtlessly wasted this time, on the one hand, this is the huge fault of the ukrainian elite, which could not put the interests of the state above the individual, on the other hand, it is the fault of society, which did not always clearly foresee in the future, remember the sociological polls about joining nato in previous decades, now we have a luxurious figure of more than 80% of support, and then what battles were fought, they were often politically provoked and directed by russia, but society did not fully understand and unfortunately, we must become sincere to every
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citizen that if we want to have an effective state, the state administration needs to understand at least the elementary basics here too and cannot be an equivalent substitute for vilnius rostov or e-e eu eurasia or nato otkb and this often speculated and messed up the heads of many ukrainians, so i really hope that after so many years of wasted time, we will now do our best to chat forward and that the next nato summit in washington in 2024 will give us membership in this organization of definitely invited to membership, but for this we every day we have to ask not only about military victories and what sensations on the telethon but from every state official what did you do this day how do you know i was appointed the first day as a minister
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the next day they recruited and asked and where reforms in 24 hours, so i have to ask each of them at the end of our program. comments that i hear from representatives of the authorities, well, first of all from the supreme commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, so far there is such a clear understanding that we received what we could have received, we could have received more, but we did not, but there is no such clear or clear signal from society that we are moving maybe we are moving so fast, but we are still moving into nato and this has already been decided and nato has decided that russia will not win in this war, well at least these two components
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are quite important for society, well , first of all, look at the document itself clearly , significantly that the future of ukraine is in nato and two-thirds of this document is dedicated to ukraine , that is, the future of nato around ukraine is clearly from ukraine, there is no doubt about it, it depends on the political will if the president of ukraine forms a high-quality team around him that will to give him high-quality advice, not in the style of an idiot or a madman , as it should be done by specialists who have, firstly, experience and secondly , a strategic vision, then everything will be okay if we continue to have a method of recruiting personnel in the bazaar, well, we are sorry then we will have such a situation throughout the country. so, we can still say about this, there will be no miracle here, it is not some kind of fairy tale there, you know, there is fairytale russia, someone there liked to shoot the tv series, then you have to work from morning to evening, they talk
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about work and work like we do we do zsu thank you mr. volodymyr, thank you for the conversation. this was volodymyr omelyan, the former minister of infrastructure, and now a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, friends. we worked live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks, for those who are currently watching us on youtube and facebook, please like this video and subscribe to our pages well, you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel, eh, now you will see the qr-code by clicking on which you will find all the detailed information on how to join our respectable sponsor club any the help will be helpful to us for the development of new projects and for those projects that already exist. in addition, you can join the espresso tv website. the most up-to-date information from ukraine in the world and the front chronicle are all
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on our espresso tv website. deputy of ukraine of the sixth convocation volodymyr tsybulko p volodymyr i congratulate you and wish you good health, let's start with the first day of the nato summit in vilnius, because many statements were made, it is clear that the hopes of the ukrainian side to get clear definitions it has not been possible to give or at least an official invitation from the north atlantic alliance so far, i understand that they will definitely not talk about it tomorrow, because tomorrow there will be a meeting of the ukraine nato council, what do you say about the results of the first day and the results we have or are they enough we need this in order to move forward with the north atlantic alliance. well, in fact, the alliance, let's say
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bankova tested the alliance for shakiness , the alliance was steadfast because there are internal rules and for the sake of ukraine, internal rules that have been supported for more than 30 countries, no one will change this first, second, uh, in recent weeks , uh, the ukrainian state system has been involved in a very large number of scandals in order for uh, well , let's just say that the civilized event took some counter steps, and these scandals were, well, quite like this an unfortunate plan because there was embezzlement of the defense budget through the ministry of defense. there were absolutely strange purchases of fuel at wholesale prices twice as high as retail prices. there was an attack
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on the mayor of rivne. what in essence shows that democracy begins with local self-government, well, in europe, at least, after similar cases , there was an unfortunate story with the bombing of a suspect in, let's say, in the holding room of the court, which led to his death, and this is also a very good example of her story it is very similar to the fact that someone is hiding the ends of uh, in fact, instead of trying to investigate and establish the real culprit and here uh, behind these scandals , zelensky suddenly understands that some phenomenal result is needed and what a phenomenal result when uh, after all, ukraine
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applying for membership in nato must ensure harmony in coexistence with nato countries because this is first of all politics military union and political harmony are very important here well, let's recall what nato secretary general jens stoltenberg said about this package of three elements more practical support in the form of a multi-year program to ensure full interoperability between ukrainian troops and nato forces, in short, let's now hear what stoltenberg said about these three points that today actually nato itself and decided that i proposed a package of three elements with more practical support in the form of a multi-year program to ensure full interoperability between ukrainian troops and nato forces, this will bring ukraine closer to nato, plus some members of the alliance are also conducting bilateral
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or multilateral dialogue with ukraine regarding the framework which should be created to ensure further support for ukraine. i think it would be wrong if i were to go into the exact wording and also before exactly how it will be made public. but of course it will be additions and additions to the decisions made at the nato summit, mr. volodymyr, nato in vilnius is not only about the future of ukraine, it is about the future of the north atlantic alliance itself. do you agree with this statement? we have already heard those statements that we will probably hear tomorrow. well, tomorrow is exactly the time for the ukraine nato speech council. that is, it will be more of a celebration than a transition to some practical actions. in fact, i
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think that zelenskyy, first of all, a little blackmailed nato these previous days, i am not going to vilnius, i am not going to vilnius, as you know, i prepared very freely and the cities bought 33,000 ukrainian flags and the procedure for raising the ukrainian flag was being prepared, in the end zelenskyi came uh and well, he spoke quite successfully at the flag raising uh- it was such a very solemn moment of the ukrainian battle flag, which the ukrainian soldiers handed over the baton to, and the baton was brought by the marathon, but even the movement towards vilnius was accompanied by comments zelenskyi with some, let's say, blackmailing statements. and this is a very unpleasant moment because, in essence, a sincere conversation will not be possible tomorrow at the immigration forum. i think that
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since intenberg just limited himself to this mini- minimalism, he drew the line under possible conflict, that is, conflict none can arise because there are nato opportunities and there is ukraine that is trying with its own charter, so to speak , to come to a foreign monastery until ukraine becomes a member of this monastery, it cannot blackmail the requirement to change the statute under it is a matter of principle, but also a matter of principle, these ambitious programs for the harmonization of nato management systems are, as far as i understand, 500 million euros for programs for the compatibility of the armed forces of ukraine and the troops of nato countries , well, in the long run, this is very
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it is important, and in addition, each of the countries, according to its capabilities, issues additional weapons, for example , france today presented a very, very ambitious missile, the germans presented two systems of petri launchers, 30 tanks and there is also a lot of equipment for 600 million euros and each of the countries. so we recall that during this tour, zelensky before the nato tour before the summit tour. having visited the czech republic, slovakia, bulgaria, and turkey, he still tried to pretend which has already been agreed within the framework of the future rammste as a personal achievement. well, what these countries will put into service with poland. the same
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information has already appeared about the transfer of 12 attack helicopters. at first there was talk of 10. by the way, transport helicopters are transferred slovakia, her czech republic, that's why it's important. it's all important. it's all about buying a victory. the only thing is that there is nervousness in ukraine. because , as always, there is not enough powerful weapons to transfer already uh, well, offensives. this is a more uh, effective format, because so far it is very careful preparatory work is being carried out. and here are the so-called forming operations and we are waiting when, with the supply of new types of weapons , the resistance of the occupier will still be broken and the troops will break somewhere in the direction of mariupol or, well,
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according to the plans of the general staff volodymyr, nato cuts salami so carefully, it means that it is trying to crush russian interests, and because russia, well, what kind of influence is it to simply crumble sweden, finland, uh , erdoğan says that he is not against sweden already joining the north atlantic alliance but the president of turkey linked the approval of sweden's application to join nato with the acceptance of turkey into the european union. we know that turkey is waiting in line for another 50 years to join the european union. i wanted to ask you, if the european union accepts turkey into its union, then uh, then, in general, this is what putin imagined as of february 24, 2022, when he started a big war against ukraine, that we will now
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return to some of the borders of 1997 , that we will now do uh, a policy of pressure on the western world there, well, yes c- it will look like the world in a year and a half, uh, putin has changed it very much with his scouts , that is, he has radically changed finland, sweden in the north atlantic alliance, turkey in the european union, uh, ukraine, a step towards nato well , in fact, turkey is a part of uh, europe, well, europe yes, but somewhere in the european union it's only during the time of standing in the halls of the european union that a completely new, very ambitious plan has appeared in turkey. turkey is forming a commonwealth of turkic states and turkey
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is actually now one of the main striking forces. of the russian federation to help them form full-fledged states and a place with the prospect of later joining the turkic commonwealth of nations, that's what 's interesting, because in fact turkey is tired of standing in the halls of the european union, and here i it seems that this ambitious program for the creation of the turkic world is called the great turan, the ideology of the great turan of panfirkism, it has actually become very active now, and we see intense relations , that is, the parameters of the turksol turkic council, which was exclusively engaged in the spread of turkic cultures, now we will move on and we have is
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a unique precedent when nato country turkey created joint armed forces with azerbaijan and in essence integrated from the imperial country into nato, but this is paradoxical, and by the way, this is the option which could be kept for ukraine and in case someone from old europe starts to conize, we can have a draft of such armed forces. this is a ukrainian-polish-lithuanian brigade and we can create a ukrainian and polish-lithuanian united armed forces and then we will automatically join nato , that's what's the paradox. although, of course, many standards must be achieved within the country, that's what 's important. thank you, mr. volodymyr. we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks and on the youtube platform, for those who are currently watching
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us , please like this video, subscribe to our social pages, and read our news on the espresso tv website, the most up-to-date news from ukraine to the world frontline chronicle everything is on our website espresso tv further contact us evgenia kravchuk - people's deputy of ukraine from servant of the people deputy chairman of the committee on humanitarian and of information policy, ms. evgenia, glad to see you on our air. thank you for joining. let's start with the results of the first day of the free site. it was quite dramatic. such was the beginning of it. the leaders of the north atlantic alliance were going to agree on the resolution of the representatives of ukraine . at that time, president zelensky was not there. moved to vilnius and made a statement that it is impossible
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to decide the future of ukraine without ukraine , what do you think, considering the statements already made by stoltenberg or it can be considered a success for ukraine itself. it certainly did not become a breakthrough that would exceed all expectations, but considering the situation that has developed within nato, when such decisions are made there about inviting ukraine, they are made by full consensus . this is, by the way, a question for many organizations about a full concert ukraine, of course, you can say, to a certain extent , it is disappointed with such a slowness of the alliance .
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that it is official, and it is already in the document and in stondberg's statements, we can officially forget about the bureaucracy of the membership action plan, because what is the membership action plan , this is the plan for the membership plan well, it is clear that the criteria are still there for membership, but the excess bureaucracy will go away, and from this process, it is definitely important to create this council that will work directly between ukraine and nato . additional aid packages, because this is what is needed, as they say underground, yes, on the battlefield, macron has already announced the supply of long-range missiles, this is actually an analogue of storm shadow , which we received from great britain, but it is jointly produced with the french, and
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germany also announced a separate package biden announced a military aid package in a few days eh by the way there is a very important point that the lines of defense built by the russians should be actually destroyed. the prime minister of estonia says that europe needs ukraine to be part of nato. let's hear what the estonian prime minister said and then let's continue the conversation. i believe that for
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the sake of long-term stability in europe , we need ukraine to be a part of nato. russia understands only strength, so we must be strong. steps in this direction ms. yevgenia, so, in this situation, we see two groups in nato, which relatively speaking, one group sympathizes more, it is the baltic countries, poland, because, well, these are countries that are next to russia, it is clear that they are the entire region of eastern europe and central europe only when apart from is absolutely correct to say apart from hungary, it must have been hungary has its own opinion and there are some countries there in great britain , the united states of america, germany, france , it is clear that they are a little further, that is why they look at it like this with a cold head and
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are they trying to make some decisions, or can it be said that our diplomacy should strengthen work with countries that are a little further from us in order to receive an official invitation to the washington summit, because i understand that the main thing in the current summit is whether ukraine will receive an official invitation not that there is a guarantee that you will enter there in 2025 or the 24th year , but the document itself when they officially invite and say we want to see you and then it becomes clear that this is the geopolitical map as of 2025 and russia clearly understands that, in principle, what what they are doing now will have no purpose, because behind ukraine stands the great power of the north atlantic alliance, of course, the help that the nato countries provide already makes it clear to russia that ukraine will not be left alone, but uh, from the point of view
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of the countries of the alliance, they see uh- is there the entry of ukraine during the war as uh, in fact, well, their entry is uh, precisely in the format of the transfer of military aid . well, he is also quite sober about it and says yes, we understand that our first task is to win the war, but ukraine and europe and the north atlantic alliance must think ahead, because in fact what we found ourselves after the bukharev summit after 2008 is not only chalk and georgia in the gray zone, but in fact did russia give the green light to aggression, because after that there was an attack on georgia
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, annexation of crimea in the 14th year, the beginning of the war, and now a full-scale invasion. well, those who are closer to the aggressor to russia in fact, ukraine can become their main guarantor of security on the eastern flank, because what happens as soon as russia starts rattling weapons there , starts doing some exercises near their borders. announced that it will double its contingent in latvia if ukraine becomes a member of nato, so it will not actually be this main wall, a guarantee of security for this, for the entire region, for this entire eastern flank. therefore, we have talk and talk about what value ukraine will bring to the north atlantic alliance, but it is obvious that, as on february 24, 2022, we understood that
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our main calculation is the armed forces of ukraine, and now we understand that our er, the main goal, for today, in the short-term perspective, er, is to strengthen er, our combat capability, and for this we do not need all these supplies from nato countries. i hope that there will still be the west of western countries and further from russia, as soon as there are others signals about the weakness of the kremlin uh, we understand that uh, the kremlin is not what it looked uh after all, it is necessary to remember that the nato countries also mention that russia has a nuclear button, and here
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it is. well, really, well, of course, what scares them, if you look at what the leaders of the north atlantic treaty organization said today, most of them say that we will see how the russian-ukrainian war will end and if ukraine wins against the russians there, then ukraine will become a member of the north atlantic treaty organization at the same time. they all say that this is a window of opportunity. when we can gain an advantage , it can end before the end of the year, well , at least that's what the president of the czech republic says. he says that further support good day eh now we have to go to the broadcast of the joint press conference based on the results of the side meeting between the secretary general of nato and the president of ukraine zelensky, after that there will be chronicles of the hostilities, so that stay with us watch the stress channel of the invasion of the territory of ukraine also he

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