[000:00:00;00] who spoke, maybe there are some people with specific names and surnames who spoke most against our membership, coming up with various excuses, so to speak, and on the other hand , for example, which countries or representatives of which political or party structures were most of our euro-atlantic optimists, very nicely asked the question what were those who were categorically against, this is the united states of america , this is germany, although german business supports us and sees our russia in nato as a real security guarantee for their of investments, there were those countries that hesitated or did not dare to publicly say that they support, in particular, at this summit in vilnius, giving us a formal invitation . it is a pity that canada and lyodova, despite their friendly attitude towards ukraine, did not publicly make this statement, as did

french president macron, as this was done by erdoğan, who said that ukraine deserves an invitation and membership, today we used the opportunity of jake sullivan's speech and daria kaleniuk asked him a very tough question , because we understand that in the biden administration on many issues, in particular, the provision of modern weapons to us, especially sullivan to those who are against precisely the provision of ukraine earlier, let the mercs, then tanks, now attack everyone, wishing that this is an escalation. therefore, we should work with the congress. senators from both parties and explain why it is in the national interest of the united states for ukraine to move to nato and why this is an important strategy to deter china as well as ukraine's movement towards nato membership. the white house

commenting on why they didn't give us exactly formula so according to which conditions and how we have to fulfill explained that our conflict is the conflict which the war unleashed by russia against ukraine is a dynamic situation dynamic does this mean that the conditions they are talking about will also change and actually how to know what to do so do they give any concrete pointers ? well, let's be honest, the more success there is in the armed forces on the battlefield, everyone loves winners and everyone wants to be next to the victorious country, but we want to explain that let's make a joint victory, let's will finally provide ukraine with everything necessary for russia to be defeated. we don't want to see how some countries are fearfully thinking. and what will happen when russia loses on the territory of ukraine and chaos will begin, bloodshed will begin, some integration processes will begin somewhere, like

the recent attempt to insurrection by prigozhyn in moscow, so there is a certain some fear and uncertainty about what will happen next with the russian federation, plus there are certain channels of communication with the russians, which are also we look at this without illusions, we understand that they were there before but we wanted to and we explain that the ukrainians are now experiencing genocide and we are satisfied only with a complete victory for ukraine , which involves a reparation tribunal, and it is extremely important to us that russia never again be able to attack us , so the postponed football players wanted to, but knowing that, leaving, so to speak, from the centenary of the history of the russian federation either muscovy, you know, she is like that ship , verena, or the boat sunk, you know. but she was driven under the plinth, 50 years have passed, it turns out that way - the same states that

fought with her, for example, literally or in a new way the historical cycle is starting to get blocked with it, but it is doing its own thing for us, so to speak, and accordingly, we would like to ask you about the f-16 and the eteks, why are they chewing for so long , please forgive us, we understand that we were promised one thing and everything is pulling, pulling, pulling, positive signals have been coming, we understand that the technical there are no problems in order to transfer to the aviation, they could have started the training of our aviators a long time ago, but still. that is, it is still an attempt somehow , i don’t know, to lead muscovy to one or other negotiations or they are afraid that we will defeat them. well, in fact, all these delays from arms supplies, then when there are political statements like poet 16 that ukraine will give and then we see certain i will not say sabotage but delaying the training processes of our pilots i do not understand why the americans do not show

leadership when in arizona where romanians learn how to use f- 35 why priority is not given to ukraine, in particular, regarding the use of f16 and those forecasts that we will have them as early as next year well , in fact, when we needed them the day before yesterday, this is also how you know the signal for someone in moscow, look at how much ukraine is losing because we lost many of our worthy pilots during these 16 months of genocide. there were such unpleasant conversations here even on the sidelines . will you have someone to learn from? to wait for the fact that we will exhaust ourselves from the point of view of human capital, then if the strategy is to exhaust both , then these are three sentences, in fact, ukraine, that's why the harsh statement of the president on the way, uh, nato

is a tough question, then kalynyuk to salevan, this it is also possible through emotions to show that we live in different realities. ukraine is fighting for its existence because the eastern plan protects europe and not only . when there is political will, everything happens much faster, that is why it is very important that here in the fields , bilateral meetings are taking place, we also presented our document end games siderius, well, the scenarios of the end of the war are different , which can be, and, well, such as for nato the cheapest option is to increase military and technical assistance to ukraine, to take us into nato rather than freezing the conflict or a stalemate scenario, because it will mean

going beyond the borders of ukraine, drawing in even more players, more resources, we have already heard a lot here about the production problems that nato was and the nato countries are not ready for such a protracted protracted scenario of the russian war that they have problems with e-e flows of e-e weapons and all this is necessary to establish new production time and so on. thank you for your work for joining we learned a lot from vinnytskyi ourselves. and we love you. thank you for being so patriotic and you would strengthen the identity of ukraine in our internal field. this is very important. thank you . thank you for your work.

well, unfortunately we have to let mrs. hanna go now and we are waiting for janson stountenberg literally there in a couple of minutes, he should join us, he will give a final press conference at it, we will finally learn his vision from those fathers by the way, there is news actually from the g7 gs7 countries have agreed on a multilateral framework for providing ukraine with long -term security guarantees aimed at protecting against future aggression from the side of russia, the nice final times writes about this with reference to the text of the document that was agreed upon during the summit, the obligations will include the supply of modern military techniques on land, in the air and at sea , training of the ukrainian military , exchange of intelligence and assistance in the field of cyber launch defense, in exchange for this, kyiv undertakes to carry out reforms, including of the judicial system and civilian control over the armed forces, now we have a pause, and then we will come back and remind you, we will broadcast the final press conference

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in case of return, here is the story, the teacher said that the event is preparing big gifts for ukraine by the end of this year, especially as regards the eu, according to him, there is no concrete plan for ukraine's accession to the north atlantic alliance, according to the results, nato in vilnius is not indicative, as the serbian president claims , the event seems to be preparing some more big gifts before the end of the 23rd year. what exactly did he mean by the phrase big gifts, and why exactly , as far as the european union is concerned , it is currently unknown, we will ask our experts about what they are thinking about it, maybe they have some information during our broadcast, so stay with us. so we will inform you about the most important things. so, i quote the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, the results of the summit are good, with an invitation to nato , they would be ideal. well, we are just looking forward to the speeches of the secretary general on stoltenberg's trojans, yes, because

when they talk about security guarantees for ukraine, we must understand, especially when the formula e-e is used in relation to a possible next aggression, we understand that now it is necessary stop the war and throw out the enemy, we can do this only with the help of high-precision long-range weapons and aviation . well, accordingly, i would like to hear not about the napoleonic plans of our western partners . powerful well, but the issue of aviation , which we still haven't received, remains open with viktor boborenko, an expert of the bureau of policy analysis. glory to ukraine and victor's heroes . good health, i'll be glad to see you

we are waiting for the results of the nato general secretary's conference, we have several of his previous statements, actually one of them is that the biggest risk for the world is if putin wins, and precisely because of this, for these reasons, the members of the alliance support ukraine, because if the russian federation wins, it will be dangerous for europe that's what stoltenberg said. and he also said that the alliance understands that ukraine must choose what security guarantees it should receive. i ask you to comment on this in the light of what we know about the decision that our expectations are ours. hope for an invitation to nato for an invitation as an invitation and not just a mention that this invitation will one day happen, we did not hear that no, well, i would call it cautious optimism anyway yes, we heard that we were not officially invited to nato but it's

okay what did not happen was that there are two positions, the first is that many people in the west are still afraid of what will happen later. in the west, many people are afraid of this on the other hand, ours is not finalizing it, not like that. i would say that the ministry of foreign affairs is the office of the president, which has replaced this important institution and it is the prerogative of the head of state and the minister of foreign affairs to shape the policy of ukraine, but our president really acted as such well, there are guys in troeshchyna who behave like that. and why are we still not in nato, and nato has the right, too much, it’s an institution, but they work in nato and in nato countries that are part of it. well, there

it is in there are also people in this union and they are like that people, the institution, the seal, all these things can't be offended, and a person can puff out his lips, he can puff out his lips, and that's why, if it's okay to say that, then viber will probably be a little offended, and it doesn't give us the opportunity and that's why we uh every step that we take, we take it late, but for some reason we are used to offending only our allies . we collect one trillion 350 billion in the state budget we spend more than a trillion. that is, we collect 43% in the budget, what we want, and the rest is covered by the allies, and it is not only the imf, the imf is a small part. and

most of this money is just grants and they are closed to us in the budget so that our teachers get money, doctors get money the things that come from the state budget in subsidies, it's nothing on the mirror, the color covers it, as our neighbors say, yes, and you should always know something elementary, and you know how it is, it's like that, the newlyweds who were given a gift instead of a two-story house just a two-room apartment. and they bought it, for example, for the in-laws or for the parents . what did they give you anyway? well, what you wanted was not in such a quantity. maybe they are keeping you. medvedev i am this person, but you understand, yes, but he is right in one thing - he says that if the allies stop helping ukraine, we will run out of money in a month, and this

is exactly god's truth. from the fields of vilnius to the prairies of sumy, what do you have now? to hear a new one, so the enemy. as far as i understand, they are regularly shelling and now we have a five-kilometer exclusion zone near the border, and how things look there now. i will say frankly a lot. i don't want to go, especially older children, old children , young people there, and i have them there. she lives abroad, she is ready to take her mother, but i do not combine the mother with the young man or not , shoot everything, kill here, but i, er, i agree. well, i partially agree if someone chose suicide and does not want to go, well it is his right, if someone is, but the state must save children, then i am in favor of taking these children from zero to 18 years old away. even if it is, well, there is some kind of violence, it is the function of the state to save young people, there is life, and

to give them a chance to survive later to fight for your life there, and that’s it. well, why up to 5 km? it’s that under mortar fire , russian mortars finish 5 km deep into the territory, and their mouth finishes 25 km deep. sumy was like this recently, although not here in lviv no one else is insured in ukraine well, their states come in, uh, viktor bondarenko, a political scientist, something was interrupted , we hope that viktor will tell us now , of course, an important story, we are looking forward to the return of viktor bondarenko , stoltenberg, commenting on f16 and for ukraine , said that first there must be training and only then the decision on the transfer, i will remind you that earlier we expected that ukrainian

pilots who were already trained and qualified would be able to fly, work and fight at the beginning of autumn on f16, now these terms are postponed and even the ministry of foreign affairs informs that if this happens by the end of the first quarter of next year, that is, by the end of march next year, it will be within the plan. therefore, nato secretary general doltenberg said at a joint press conference with president zelensky in vilnius that the question of providing 16 in ukraine does not arise yet communication training with these planes will not pass, the ukrainian military has already more than 10 countries joined the pilot training coalition, says stoltenberg, and this will give us the opportunity later to make a decision to provide 16 planes, that is, training begins as soon as possible soon and then a decision will be made regarding the planes, that's what the secretary general said, and according to him, these exercises will roughly begin in august , that is, next month

, added stoltenberg, it is possible to focus on the aid package that ukraine needs first and foremost on the front, yes. we hope that viktor bondarenko will return to us now. while viktor bondarenko is not there, there is an important message, in particular , three munitions depots of the occupiers were destroyed in the tauriy direction , the armed forces of ukraine eliminated 22 units of military equipment in the tauriy direction the enemy's equipment, this was announced in his telegram channel by the commander of the operational strategic group of tavria forces, oleksandr tarnavskyi, quoting general tarnavskyi, in total, during the past day, the enemy attacked our positions 19 times and carried out 585 shellings, the artillery units of the defense forces of the tavria direction performed 1,397 fire missions during the day in addition , our military destroyed 22 units of enemy military equipment, in particular 6bm two howitzers with this

100b 2bm-21 grad gun 2a - 36 hz uav orlane superkami anti-aircraft missile complex book what, the faith of ukrainians in our armed forces and in victory is really great and the process shows that hundreds of ukrainians have already submitted applications for work in the civil service after the deoccupation of crimea and donbas, in the first week almost 350 people registered on the platform and this number is constantly growing, as of today it has already been processed more than three hundred questionnaires, that is, these people are already enrolled in the reserve , this is actually reported by the ministry of reintegration in the occupied territories, and they note that citizens can independently choose the region, almost 80% of those willing choose

crimea, but other regions also mention zaporizhzhia, donetsk and luhansk. viktor bondarenko is coming back to us. so, mr. viktor , we wanted to ask you about the situation with the so-called exclusion zone and the attempt to resettle people from it. yes, you know, in history they were shocking, and this was practiced even in the first world war, when there was an exclusion zone and a silo bridge, people were resettled . he is a general, well, he uses the methods of general actions, eh, although eh, well, there is a lot of debate about this equipment, and why it is necessary to evict in all environments. it is not necessary to evict . who has the right to choose, but i am personally convinced that the state should save children and resettle

well, it’s possible to temporarily reject them for a year, but if we have any boarding houses in the vinnytsia khmelnytskyi region that are in a safe condition. well, we have a completely safe condition. there are some establishments are located well, but uh, we need to take the children away from the war, uh, we need to evacuate , and i think well, now they could actually do it, it was possible to take all the children out, because here from this borderland, in fact, to take them out of the front to some uh, carpathian tent, those towns who is older well, the state has many opportunities to attract resources, you just have to think about it and you even need to understand ukrainians, we

would come with some guarantors , including international funds, including with the possibility of going to poland to create some alternatives, first of all, for the children, she almost left, we monitored the situation here, so in the krasnopil community , there is almost no, almost no thin, you give moms who walk, uh, bombs explode in bilopylla, i personally see it, and moms in a stroller across the street, well, you can’t leave the livestock to whom to leave the vegetable garden to whom to leave the choice should be given the elders must choose to leave themselves and it is clear that if there are only geese and chickens somewhere in myropyllya it is 3 km away but she has a charming psel nearby here and she has 60 geese she thinks she wouldn't mind eat and they won't kill me tomorrow. and she thinks how to get out of 60 money. i don't know. i don't have answers

to all the questions about adults. but i 'm categorical about children. six shellings by russian troops were recorded in the last month, and 29 mine explosions and grenade launcher shots were recorded in these territories . please tell me whether after such shelling the territory is demined, or whether they actually inspect how safe it is for those who you have literally 30 seconds left to answer, uh, no, they are dangerous, they are throwing such mines that yesterday left this road and drove normally, but today together and you can break off, just as from our side , they are washing against them, uh, where are their troops going, and that is why we will have to be careful for a long time, these lands will be reliable for a long time, and these are beautiful black soils. thank you, viktor

bubarenko, an expert of the bureau of political analysis , told about the fact that the border of the sumy oblast is still dangerously mined, too. everyone makes their own decisions, but remember those moments when you refuse to evacuate your own or your children further in teri espresso news and they will be told by anna eva melnyk anna eva you have a word . zaporizhzhia in a moment and also new details from the tonato itself, be with us before