[000:00:00;00] i regret once again what we said. well, no, we will stand steadfastly, amen to ukraine, the indicator has not weakened, and the indicator will not dictate to us correctly

the un charter. they must respect and not be adamant, killing women and children is not allowed. russia is waiting for a diplomatic solution. it believes in putin. it still cannot believe if he cannot overcome ukraine . for years , they are still making wrong decisions.

there will never be a question, this is exactly what we are and the people of lithuania also supported ukraine in choosing e for its own for its homeland freedom elections because you understand exactly how much freedom is worth how valuable it is for all people people moldova georgia others in all places in the world people continue to fight for freedom because i want to say keep doing it uh because you uh lithuanians mean hope for this country i honestly think so let's not forget how important freedom is and never

not to give up on the way to er in the fight for a better future is the challenge of our time of all er times our unity will not waver and this i promise you because and when i look at the world now when there is a war trials er competition not certainty there is also i see an unprecedented opportunity this is an opportunity to achieve a better peace of well-being uh justice for all uh these are human rights uh and uh which are important for all mankind and this is what the united states is committed to and we want to do tic on this journey together and

our unity was demonstrated during the support of ukraine against russian aggression, and my friends, before us is a fundamental choice, this is a choice more peace than peace, who has exploitation, is there coercion or, uh, peace is coming, we recognize that uh, our success depends on the success of others, if uh, others are doing well our business is also another challenge - climate change in order to build a new economy we must not leave anyone behind in order to achieve these goals we must cooperate and

i am honest about this the world is changing as the president is focused on the fact that garbage strengthen revive our alliances we have brought the transatlantic partnership to new heights cooperation with the us and europe is an anchor for global stability tensions in the indo-pacific region and there we cooperate with korea with japan to build a strategic partnership and others and we unite the most democracy in

cooperation in order to increase strengthen the security of the inter-pacific region and during this summit, we demonstrated this for the second time, partners from the anti-pacific ocean region take participation in the summit and this improves cooperation to strengthen security my account in the face of challenges e-e the future is joint and this cooperation the response to challenges must be joint it is necessary to protect the fundamental rules of the basic provision of law e-e so that it is on the supremacy of law that the entire

international is built system these ideas and international trade made possible decades of global growth also principles such as freedom of navigation overflight the skies must be open so that er all countries can to use this to explore space as well, we as countries must work together as my father said, everyone has dignity inherent in them and our engineers, our new technologies are created not for are created not for oppression

, but for the world was more stable so that we did not have such challenges as we had during the pandemic, and i will say that the threat of climate change is real , it is serious, we do not have much time, it is the single biggest threat that threatens all humanity and we must not allow this threat to destroy our future, we still have to recognize our common responsibility in order to release the extraordinary potential that exists in the poor countries of the world, and this is not charity, it is in our own interests , because we will all benefit if

people everywhere will be healthier richer for all of us if entrepreneurs realize their dreams to improve the future and we in this winter-bound world need to better er respond to the challenges of instability and holding back the growth of a very large number of people because the united states cooperate with international banks such as the world bank in order to reduce world poverty and increase prosperity, we are all together in the group of seven working together to improve living standards, especially for the e-e poor countries

of africa, latin america, we need to build a new world together and now we are at a crossroads in history and those uh in the choice we make now it will shape the world for decades to come now we have to restrain aggressive war zakarbnytsky war in order to restrain uh aggressors in the future we stimulate new technologies in order to promote freedom we support e-e opportunities and equality how to answer these important questions is to define our future and this is not an exaggeration this fact requires the efforts of

everyone and i am convinced that with ambition and self-confidence we can answer correctly on these questions and to ensure that the vision of the future that we want will be realized. we need an action plan for the future that we can achieve if we work together. the road ahead is difficult, but i don't need it. we don't have to. we must not give up, we must stand up for that word ukraine is a verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko i congratulate

everyone and wish everyone good health , the nato summit has finished its work in vilnius, literally at this very moment , the president of the united states of america, joseph biden, is speaking at the university of vilnius listened to what biden said, but the end of the speech . you can watch what biden said on our youtube channel. biden said that ukraine will probably become the 32nd nato country and obviously it is obvious that the north atlantic alliance will make such a decision, although it is difficult to specify when exactly it will be. what happened in those days, on july 11, there was a nato summit, on july 12 , the first meeting of the nato council was held in the lithuanian capital, and ukraine, according to the results, unfortunately, ukraine did not receive an invitation to join the - of the north atlantic alliance , but the future of ukraine, the leaders say, will be in nato. on july 12, ukraine and the big seven

defined the parameters of the security guarantee for ukraine, but the agreements have not yet been signed, they will be bilateral agreements. but as he explained president zelenskyi, these agreements will come into force after the signature of the leaders of the g7 about expectations and reality at the summit. of the center for defense strategies, oleksandr khara , we are currently in touch with serhii rakhmanin , people's deputy of ukraine and member of the verkhovna rada committee on national security of defense and intelligence, in my opinion, this is the correct name of this committee p. serhiy i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast . congratulations, thank you. let's start with the results, because

someone says that this is a victory. someone says that this is treason. in vilnyusk, we will receive an official invitation to nato, unfortunately, this did not happen, and zelensky said that no decisions can be made without the participation of ukraine regarding the future of ukraine in nato. do you consider this summit successful for ukraine, i would call the results of this exactly neither a defeat nor a victory. i expected something similar in principle. i would call it a fixation of the status quo. nato is not yet ready to see ukraine as a member of the alliance nato could not refuse ukraine in the current situation because they simply chose a formula that would continue what was happening before that in a collapsed form , that is, the door is not being closed to us, as

they have been telling us about since 2008. well, they are conventionally speaking, yesterday one door was open. and now are open to other reasons if we talk about the specifics well, let's talk concretely, only three things happened: first, ukraine was allowed to become a member of nato in the future, it is not clear in which way, bypassing the path provided for by the pdc, that is , the action plan regarding membership, but instead we were offered to fulfill obligations within the framework of annual programs. by the way, this this is not a novelty. the annual programs were started long ago when nato was not ready to provide military aid, and in order not to talk about submissions, we concluded annual programs. and as a result of these, we had of annual programs to report how fast or slow are we moving towards the alliance, that is, nothing has changed , the same plan has remained, by and large, but it

is already called differently, even where we teach , the situation has worsened because the pdch - after all, if we had received it, it would have somehow specific frameworks and annual programs, they are updated every year, the second point is the creation of the so-called ukraine-nato council, before that there was a ukraine-nato commission, from now on it was not a new format, a new scale , a new six would. if you want, from now on it is it is called a council, this can be considered a positive political signal, but i will simply remind you that a similar council has existed in the relations between nato and russia since 2002, if i am not mistaken, there was a council of russia nato in this council from time to time and its activities were frozen and unfrozen in connection with the full-scale aggression of russia suspended but to be honest, i did not hear that the council was dissolved or disbanded, moreover, a month before the full-scale invasion, the secretary general of nato from

tottenberg said that he hoped that this council would gain new momentum and continue to work therefore, in principle. well, i understand that the content of the activities of this council will be somewhat different from the activities of the council of russians, but by and large it offers us what russia has had since 2002. well, the third point is the obligation to support the obligation to help e- to speed up the process of transition to nato practices and standards of the directive, but i also did not see any novel here because all this has been happening de facto since the 14th year in our country, we are being trained, we are being trained to supply western weapons, so with the beginning of full-scale aggression, and samples of weapons samples of equipment, their quality and quantity have increased significantly, but in principle we have had fairly close contacts with nato

since 2014, it is possible that there will be some new additional terms of the offer agreement, but at the moment nothing is known about them, that is, by and large , nothing has changed in the dry balance, they are not closing in front of us the door, but no one is letting us go anywhere so far, or could it be otherwise, considering the fact that russia is waging war on the territory of ukraine, and this is the first and second , and today baidin spoke about the future ukraine will be determined after the victory, well, that is, russia has clearly received a signal that it will enter a war on the territory of ukraine until ukraine is not in nato . i understand correctly, well , by and large. yes, but let's just delve into the history of relations with ukraine . -e large-scale to full-scale invasion of the russians on the territory of ukraine, nato

actually slowed down the process of rapprochement between ukraine and nato, including because, god forbid , it would not provoke a war between ukraine and russia. the rhetoric was after the large-scale invasion of the center took place and the war was no longer on an absolute scale, and now the logic has changed somewhat, but its content is largely the same. spread to the edge of nato and did not turn into the third world or a nuclear war, i will remind you that all high-ranking officials from stolton barkhat to biden have repeatedly stated that almost the most important task of nato is to avoid a direct confrontation between the alliance and russia, yes, let's draw conclusions while the war lasts, ukraine will not become a member of nato

if the war ends, it is not a fact that ukraine will become a member of nato because, again , of fears that this will be a new stage of escalation between nato and russia, possible, possible over time, the point of view of our partners will change , in fact, much has changed in their logic and rhetoric during the last fifteen and a half months, in which a large-scale invasion continues. that will happen in the united states, something in their logic will change and maybe ukraine will convince them with military victories and reforms, i hope that ukraine is worthy of at least receiving an official invitation to the alliance even before the end of the war with russia under the conditions or under the plan that in this annual so-called plan, instead of the pdc, they so pathetically canceled the pdc and

proposed these solutions, plans, but there are the same conditions or the same prerequisites that must be fulfilled, the domestic tasks that you must fulfill , the ukrainian government is there to fight corruption the reform of the judicial branch of power, well, that is, there are many, many different reforms. there are many, many, many different reforms. i say again what the annual plan is . well, with your permission, i will return to the origins, and in the decision of the bukharev summit in 2008, it was stated that ukraine and georgia will become nato members and that the next step should be the implementation of the membership action plan . this was a condition that was written down when later ukraine said that "well, let's move on to the next step, to the next stage, let's help nato, don't be in a hurry to provide us with help for so that it is not perceived as too sharp a signal

that can provoke and provoke russia, and so that they do not grant us a military service but do not close the door in front of us, they actually invented the entire history of annual programs, and there are many different dimensions in these programs. but we political and military military technical, that is, in fact, it is necessary for small programs that are updated every year, and let's say the format of the methodology of these annual programs is such that it is de facto impossible to implement them. you can only make some progress, but this means that next year, that is, it is not for you ensures that in the next annual program there will not be any new requirements, there are only political requirements, but there are also political requirements , but there are also military, military-technical. you will stretch this pdc into your arms, that is the problem of those who joined

nato and chaldaniya, where the level of corruption and the level of reforms was approximately the same as in ukraine now and they were accepted into the north atlantic alliance , that is, the main obstacle is still our way nato is a neighborhood with russia, to put it roughly, well, in fact, even biden does not hide this. pay attention to his interview with cnn . pay attention to his latest statements that he made in vilnius, de facto he confirmed it , so he told us about the need for reforms spoke about the fact that ukraine has achieved a certain process, but a lot needs to be done , but he himself frankly named the key reason: while ukraine is at war with russia , inviting ukraine to the alliance will mean the inevitability of the intervention of the people in the war, and moreover i can't afford that, well, in fact, in the same words, he called

the key problem, that is, no one denies that ukraine needs to carry out reforms, but please note that i am not mistaken. if you look at the political demands from the eu and nato, they actually completely coincide, that is, according to the logic of the eu, we are quickly overcoming this path and carrying out reforms according to the logic of nato, we have not progressed enough, although once again i will say the set of requirements. well, i will not say that it is identical, but in many ways it is similar. do we have another way or another movement besides nato, that is , what is the most important thing for us in this situation and under these conditions, in what way should we protect ourselves from russia, that is nato is the only way. can we follow the path of bilateral agreements with great britain or

with other countries that can guarantee us security, as it was guaranteed in finland and sweden a year ago when they joined nato ? give guarantees of countries nuclear countries which protect us from russia, let's call a spade a spade in a confrontation with a country like russia, there can be only two guarantees , the first is the presence of nuclear weapons and this is the fifth article of the washington treaty, other guarantees do not exist in nature, let me remind you that they tried to provide a guarantee within the scope of the budapest memorandum and you all remember how it ended. to be honest, i was unpleasantly surprised by the rhetoric of mr. volis, and he , by the way, has done a lot for ukraine, both objectively and great britain and he personally

, but when he said that in britain on amazon and ukraine should thank you more often, so i would like to remind you that amazon , unlike great britain, which was the guarantor of ukraine's security, and you are wrong about amazon, is that the west remained silent when russia, with absolute impunity , seized part of the ukrainian territory without hindrance and occupied part of the ukrainian territory back in the 14th year therefore, there are no guarantees of real nuclear weapons except for the fifth article. accordingly, we must , on the one hand, understandably, first of all rely on our own forces, on the other hand, if we move from the strategic level to the operational-tactical level, any bilateral an agreement from any country, not necessarily with a nato country, any agreement from any country that is ready to provide real military-military-technical financial assistance, it is

necessary, it is necessary and understood that ukraine actually asked various states to help in specific in specific areas, some countries were sensitive to our requests, some not so much. well, maybe now the whole situation will improve a bit and the amount of this aid will increase. i think that the only possible positive a-a result in recent events is really possible long-term agreements with countries that are ready to help us in terms of aid, why i insist on the word long-term because it will mean that regardless of the events on the front, regardless of the change of governments of these countries, they undertake to supply a certain amount of weapons or provide a certain amount

of aid well, i hope at least that ukraine will enter into such bilateral agreements with those states that are ready to provide such assistance , it will be possible . this is the only positive point of recent events. thank you, mr. serhiy. of the verkhovna rada committee on national security and defense and intelligence, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live, please like and subscribe to our channels in social networks, we work for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week, also read our news on the espresso tv website

. further, we can be contacted by oleksiy golobusky, political technologist. ended yesterday zelenskyi spoke and warned the leaders of nato member countries not to make any decisions without taking into account the interests of ukraine without the participation of ukraine today zelenskyy at a press conference with stoltenberg stated that the results are very poor but if there was an invitation they were perfect , let's hear what president zelensky said, we can state that the results are good, but if there was an invitation, they would be perfect, well , adequate. people, we understand, partners help us with weapons and this moment of survival and we really need this, we understand that some people are really afraid to talk about our nato membership now because no one wants a world

war, and this is also understandable and logical. i want everyone to understand. ukraine cannot be a member of nato while the war is going on. how do you, oleksiy, assess the desire of the ukrainian delegation to receive more from freedom than the nato leaders were ready for? although adequacy and understanding of the situation is also an important matter in diplomacy , this is what is meant when you understand and show your partners an understanding that what you are asking for is impossible at this moment, but from the point of view of the internal