[000:00:00;00] so, for ukraine, vilnius is at such a turning point, it is such a huge step , the first to become a real member of nato, well, they did not receive the maximum bar, they did not receive the poorer , these fish reached the invited time frame, that is , to the alliance for joining the alliance, but that's all this is a turning point and it will go down in history, and the declaration of security guarantees is morning for the time being and what will not be necessary is that according to the action plan regarding membership, this stage has already been skipped directly by the zefin option for the swedish the option without the pdc directly by the accelerated procedure further in addition to the declaration and the map the council that already spoke ukraine nato is also created this is also a great achievement so and in fact also well, it must be understood that ukraine made it clear that the west should not look back to russia constantly and about this zelenskyi said that it is necessary it is necessary to be brave, it will be stronger , it is necessary to be unifying and not pay attention

to russia and the table now said that russia has always been against the expansion of nato, anyone can accept any new member but russia will no longer have the right to veto the membership of any country in nato, including the old rivers of ukraine, so there is hope that sweden will soon become one. by the way, one of the consequences of this is that it is the 32nd member of the alliance, and you are such a general expectation that maybe ukraine will become the 33rd one day, so far the programs do not say temporary, but it is clear that it will be after the victory, after the end of the war, and also the last ukrainian people gave a mandate to the leadership of the state to advance to nato , if before the invasion of russia, nato membership supported ukraine 25-30 % of maximum to now it was recently after the russian invasion 82% then 86 now 89% of ukrainians support nato membership so that the ukrainian people gave a mandate to the guide to

the promotion of ukraine to membership in the north atlantic alliance daria thank you rostyslav you are very interested in the detailed coverage of events during this yourself and rostyslav holten worked in vilnius and summed up for us what was happening at the nato summit, thank you, and a few more statements yourself. the representative of the white house , john kirby, said that ukraine does not need a state of emergency , but reforms are needed, such as the american the official said in an interview with voice of america that among the necessary reforms, according to him, are the eradication of corruption, the development of democratic institutions, a strong judicial system, the rule of law, and other key indicators that are necessary for every country that aspires to become a member of nato. together with the representatives of the group of seven, the first meeting of

the nato ukraine council has just ended, where all our allies agreed that the future of ukraine lies in nato. i think that this will not surprise any of us, including you, the presidents, all allies have agreed to cancel the membership action plan requirements for ukraine and create a path to nato membership while ukraine continues to advance the necessary reforms. but we are not waiting for the end of this process. obligations regarding the security of ukraine, is ukraine ready to carry out reforms on the way to full nato membership , we will not only talk about this further with the first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine , oleksandr kornienko, joins the broadcast oleksandr my greetings good evening good evening in which i mentioned, among other things, he said that the ukrainian army does not have to prove that it meets nato standards, this has already been proven on the battlefield, but there are still questions about state institutions what

can you appeal to the representative of the white house about the slow pace of reforms in ukraine , hmm, it is better to hold discussions live, of course, and with representatives of the united states. the house of representatives of the united states and, of course, in other countries, the european parliament, the parliament in the country of the members of the european union , the british parliament, recently there was very constructive work during the conference on recovery in london, of course well , there is no ideal. only our partners and society, and well, these shameful headlines in the news that we read about some other

corruption suspicions , because there is even of the highest heads of judicial bodies of power yes, it is clear that all this still requires further movement, for example, regarding the anti-corruption reform, there are many questions regarding the judicial reform , it is taking place but of course , the people and all of us in the political class would like faster results. well, of course, there are a lot of questions regarding the economic bloc yes, because there are high goals and we declare what high goals president zelenskyy set in his speech on june 28, constitution day, regarding the doctrine of ukraine, we will discuss which we will embroider into specific laws in

concrete actions, of course, all goals are impossible without a fundamental reform of the state apparatus, the state, the reform of the relations between the state and the citizen, the reform of the relations between the state and the businessman, the digitalization of these processes, the transfer of these processes to such a regime that a civil servant - any employee of local self-government will not be able to influence the adoption of these decisions, create some kind of corrupt mechanisms. let's put it this way, we will have a lot of work to do . in fact, high-ranking representatives of the european commission recently arrived, the head general director kupman there on expansion issues, and he stated the same as all our partners today, mrs. ursula fonderland, the head of the european commission, stated that the pace of reforms to be taken by kyiv is very powerful, very serious. and in a year, such progress according to the promises itself impresses our partners , of course, but in us there is still a lot of homework that we will also actively implement in the near future in the fight against corruption, because you mentioned corruption

, we asked ukrainians on the streets whether they stood for yesterday's decision by nato was not a surprise to them, and for the majority, they say that with such a level of corruption, well, who will take ukraine to nato , and what place do you think corruption is in ukraine, and among the factors that slow down the invitation process? well, actually, you say that europe is arranged are you satisfied with the pace of the fight against corruption? of course , we do not get tired of talking about the fact that we need to do this more intensively. but of course there are still some questions for the judiciary, we adopted an anti-corruption program for the implementation of which the cabinet of ministers adopted an anti-corruption program, we adopted a strategy, i'm sorry, yes, they adopted a program, and in fact, this program, this strategy, it is not so much about corruption, you know, which worries us there

at the highest level, because everything is clear with her . we have anti-corruption bodies. we have nabu . we have sap. they have seen in the last 1.5-2 years that there is a lot of work on people's deputies and ministers and judges, even here we see the head of the system, that is, the top level, at least there is already a toolkit that allows you to fully keep this entire system in working mode, but with regard to the average and grassroots corruption, of course the whole country should get involved, and this is a question not only for anti-corruption bodies , it is already a question for the police, for the dbr, for bodies of wide jurisdiction, but this is also a question for our e-e judicial bodies, because well, cases of petty domestic corruption, they will

to linger for a long time in the unreformed judicial system. in these cases, not too many have seen how corrupt people are released on bail and, accordingly, await the completion of the judicial reform. why has it not been completed for the longest time ? of approaches to this projectile was and this is the last approach, which is already our e-e government, our verkhovna rada was fully implemented by involving foreigners in the selection for the integrity council worked for the selection for the of the higher qualification commission for the selection of members of the supreme council of justice, these are new approaches, we will try with them, we have already achieved results , we will try how foreign experts will help us to clean our judicial system, in principle, trust in this, well, it is an order of magnitude higher, but we also need to understand about the systemic problems of our of the judicial branch , which have been accumulating well, unfortunately, for decades, not

just for years, the circular bail, the judge's mother , this is all about this, too , the president proposed new tools, in particular, and these are not speeches on the day of the constitution they talked about increasing the responsibility of judges, about increasing the responsibility for bribery of judges and those who give in order to cut down these systems of already circular bail, this is the use of polygraph methods to evaluate e-e members of the judicial system, well, that is, many new solutions are proposed and in one way or another will affect the improvement of the integrity of the judicial system there in the medium-term perspective, i would really like such proposals of the declaration to have practically exceeded the plane thank you for being with us until the broadcast oleksandr kornienko, the first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine was in direct contact with us, thank you. well, actually, as i mentioned, and our correspondents asked ukrainians in the capital of other cities about their impressions of

the results of the summit, whether they were expected or disappointing. and what, according to ukrainians, was the main obstacle on this way can i ask you about nato's decision, your opinion? everyone wants to join ukraine in nato, but if they invite us now, then when we win, we will create such an alliance ourselves so that they will still stand in line to join us, and we will we will think and decide whether to take them or not. and what decision did you expect from yesterday? well, i expected that a road map would be created, if not a road map. well, at least for them to make a decision that after the end of the war they would accept us. yes, with an open date, although in principle, it was obvious. we were sure that it would be so

. i won't take us to nato until we defeat russia. it helps us with weapons, training, and military technologies. the solution is that we have not been accepted into nato yet. this is also reasonable and we also expect it. why? because, well, first of all, we are not ready. we are not ready as a country. the country will be offered some kind of action plan before the entry of the military bloc of the donat. and what decision did you expect? we would rather say that it is still at the factory, or at least they will say when it is called, because it is about the victory, it is a raspy answer. the victory

is unknown. the battle of our eyes is resolved help will be given to us at all, and i didn't expect anything else. and what else did they have to do? we do everything ourselves. we were waiting for them to take us. donate. well, what are you going to do? they are afraid , but they are afraid. well, at least they give us weapons, and they give us weapons, it helps even life. our valiant soldiers are saved by the clutch. so, it’s time to reform, and all that’s needed is reform . do you think it’s correct? now ukraine has not done enough. what more needs to be done . it will defeat the armed forces and not only the wonderful system. yes, the government is reformed there. transparent, maybe we don't really deserve to go there yet, but we have a war, we protect not only ourselves, but also europe, that's why i think

that we should be taken there at home because it protected us. it turns out that only we are interested in joining nato. nothing more for anyone if everyone fends for themselves, what conclusions should ukraine draw from this decision for itself to fight stronger to use all that they give and cassettes what it gives and at 16 it’s simple well what to do well in general there is support and weapons are given political decision on accession ukraine is yes well, then there are all these disputes about the procedure, i think that this is disrespect to our president and to us ukrainians , we have a war now, it is very difficult for us, yes, there are some issues that have not been resolved, but we need help, we

still want support from nato and accession and with weapons, and still, we need to rely more on ourselves, rely on our own strength and accept defense, we need to work on ourselves, change ourselves , and then we will definitely be accepted. the main thing is not to give up and believe in victory. well, i remind you that the leader of the group of seven countries with ukraine so far, we have not agreed on the specific parameters of the security guarantors, but on their framework, specific bilateral agreements will be signed later, and we already know about this, and not only that, we will continue to talk with kostyantyn eliseev , the extremely plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine and deputy minister of foreign affairs in 2007, mr. kostyantynemo greetings. good evening. i congratulate you. actually , nato ukraine is leading the declaration of the g7 countries on support for ukraine. i will briefly try

to summarize what my colleague from vilnius said, arms supply, training, cooperation in the field of cyber security intelligence, immediate consultations in the event of a new aggression, support in bringing the russian federation to justice, further strengthening of sanctions pressure and further support for democratic development, you know , it gives the impression that this is one of the documents that we have seen a lot since 2014 and especially during the full-scale invasion of what this document is fundamentally different. and actually, how long can it take from the framework that was mentioned today to the specific signing of bilateral agreements? first of all, the document you refer to is really called a joint declaration on support for ukraine, and unfortunately, i did not see the word security guarantee in the title, about which everyone is now

ordering, in fact, about helping ukraine in the future, that is , unfortunately, it only says that the parties will only start negotiations and , secondly, this document is on my eyelashes, it is of course a document named after budapest , the so-called budapest memorandum of 1994, because this joint declaration actually talks about the mechanism of political the consultation consultant that was provided in the hands of us er tried to appeal to this provision regarding political consultations for the child, unfortunately it did not work then and it is also very important that any points er and about the so-called guarantees i emphasize once again in the title i never saw the word security guarantee, eh. it should be clearly linked to ukraine's membership in nato, unfortunately , these joint declarations of the seven, i did not see

a direct link to ukraine's membership in nato, mr. kostiantyn. and it seems to me a little bit . so what's there showing whether you can hear us konstantina we will probably try to renew the connection now because we can't hear you very well well, for now let me remind you that the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky met on the sidelines of the summit with the american president joe biden and before the closed meeting the leaders of the states talked to each other in public and biden washed away the bravery of ukrainians, you noted that she is a role model for the whole world well, zelenskyi wrote verbatim on the results of the meeting a very good strong meeting and added that she lasted at least twice as long as planned and was exactly as meaningful as needed, among other things, they talked about long-term support for weapons, politics, and so on

, but whether they agreed to provide the united states to ukraine by the united states, he did not specify the attacks, although he previously stated that he wanted to discuss this issue with joe biden, er, regarding provision of long-range missiles to ukraine well, in fact, the new york times reported that the white house is not conducting public discussions regarding the possible deployment of long-range atakamsk missiles to ukraine about the need to provide nato secretary general ian stoneberg said today at a press conference to provide ukraine with an adequate number of weapons as the most urgent task documents of course, the guarantees of the documents of the meeting are important, but now the most urgent task is to provide a sufficient amount of weapons for president zelenskyi and his armed forces, therefore the most urgent task is to therefore, in order to ensure ukraine's victory, because if ukraine does not win, then the issue of membership will not be discussed at all

, let's try to communicate further with the post no we are trying because, unfortunately, the connection is interrupted, in fact, we finished with the fact that the document he signed is currently a framework one. he further indicates the path where bilateral agreements will be signed. there will be a second such budapest memorandum, we will continue to talk about it. well, for now, let's not look. well, in principle, how did the nato summit go , especially its second day, and i will remind you that on this day, in addition to meeting with biden , zelensky also met with leaders allied countries well, the summary of these meetings, the summary of the actual results of everything, was collected by my colleague roksolana bochai, hey, the second day of the nato summit in vilnius for the ukrainian delegation began with meetings, this is the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi talking to the prime minister of canada justin trudeau in the morning thank you for support, but

reminds item one of the negotiations, weapons for the armed forces, then a meeting with the federal chancellor of germany, olef scholz, after the conversation, the announcement of additional patriot launchers and missiles for them from germany then negotiations with the prime minister of great britain richie sunak zelensky calls this meeting the third success of the day and thanks for the long-range weapons for ukraine 30 australian burshmaster armored personnel carriers that will be handed over to ukraine this is already after the meeting with the prime minister of australia anthony eltonisi with the prime minister of the netherlands , the training of ukrainian pilots is again announced, the french delegation will provide ukraine with additional engineering equipment for demining, as well as

long-range weapons, which were reported earlier summarizing the negotiations already with the nato ensec, volodymyr zelenskyi says that the results of the summit are good, but if there was a decision to officially invite ukraine to nato, it would be ideal . i really understand that this is a technical signal, but if we are not only dealing with technology and bureaucracy, but let's look at it as serious the motivating factor of ukrainian society, for me as well as for the president. it was a very important moment. now ukraine is closer to joining nato than ever. at the same time , it explains why the ukraine nato council , which is held on this day, is the foundation of the council. ukraine and nato is one of the three elements of the package that we agreed today in order to ensure that ukraine even comes closer to nato standards, and the purpose of this

is to strengthen political ties and ties between ukraine and nato, volodymyr zelenskyi the bottom line is that ukraine understands why it cannot be accepted into nato now, but is counting on it later, some are really afraid to talk about our membership in nato now because no one wants a world war and it is also clear and logical that ukraine will a member of nato and this is such confidence. in my opinion, from all my meetings before this, it sounded like this for the first time with confidence that we will be members of nato when the conditions are really appropriate , i understand by this that when it will be safe on our land, one of the final meetings

will do everything you got what you need i am looking forward to the day when we will have a meeting we will celebrate with you the official membership in nato and i want to thank you for what you are doing and the bad news for you is that we are not going anywhere we are away from you let's not fall behind these days vilnius meetings are held outside the summit joe biden speaks at the university and zelenskyi the day before on the cathedral square and there and there crowds of people willing to listen to the speeches of the guests of the be summit gather on the first day, i would not provide the necessary weapons and the necessary support for ukraine because every day means many innocent deaths people , not only the military. we really want the ukrainian nation to join nato and we hope that somehow we will convey this message to

vlad. because in fact the second such budapest memorandum could become the declaration signed today, is there any risk at all? how do you assess the risk of this and what levers are still left in kyiv to pressure, so to speak, partners to sign more specific agreements and security guarantees? well , first of all, i i emphasize once again that any security guarantees must be clearly tied to ukraine's finances and have a legally binding nature. this is fundamental and no less important. i think that those who really think about us and our victory also think about ukraine's membership in therefore, nato's task above the tasks of ukraine and civil society and the government should become membership in the alliance as the best guarantee of ukraine's security. anyone who thinks about new wars is possible here and thinks about new

guarantees, because you are what the declaration is about today, so its explanation the right to self-defense, that is, we are talking about a new war. we do not want a new war. we want peace, and therefore there is actually no safer alternative than nato membership. and i would very much not like us to waste our resources and time to to work to conclude some fmmer protocols about intentions or some guarantees like the budapest memorandum, i apologize for such an emotion, but somehow, mr. kostiantyn, i apologize, but we are forced to thank you and say goodbye because, unfortunately , the communication is very bad, we do not hear anything, maybe for days tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, we will contact again to try to communicate with you, thank you very much , kostiantyn lisov, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine was in direct contact with us and

we are moving on. and a few more final quotes nato itself, for example german chancellor olafsholtz, positively evaluates the results of the same that took place in vilnius. i will remind you that yesterday was the first day of such disappointments for ukraine, when president zelensky wrote an outrageous post, analysts noted that it was the position of germany and the united states that restrained partners from political analysts also assumed ukraine's invitation to nato without looking back at russia. a good decision regarding ukraine can be seen in the agreed nato documents that firstly we did it unanimously and secondly the ukrainian president highly appreciated the general decisions that were adopted here today and also fully understood that the issue of nato membership will not be a subject of negotiations for those who are not part of it partnership, russia will not take part in these

negotiations, i think it is quite clear, and the french president, manuel macron , concluded that he understands the disappointment of ukraine , first of all, i believe that the has the right to be demanding of us because his country is at war because his army is on the battlefield and because he is defending the integrity of his country and the sovereignty of his people also our responsibility is to stand by him in the name of international law our values and the protection of europe. therefore, we must do what we are doing now, that is, protect ukraine, impose sanctions against russia and avoid any escalation and expansion of this conflict. of the committee on national security and intelligence, as well as the deputy head of the permanent delegation to the nato parliamentary

assembly, join our broadcast, eh , solomiya, good evening. they just tried to communicate with the ambassador plenipotentiary and liseyev, and he says that in fact there is no question of security guarantees, that is, at the moment it is a framework document, then bilateral agreements will be signed agreements. how do you assess what was signed today and what was announced today in vilnius? well, actually, can we say that the declaration signed today will not become the second budapest memorandum ? it is declarative and it does not compel or encourage the signatory with us to take any specific actions, because all these actions are agreed negotiations between presidents and heads of governments several times regarding support

ukraine will press for how long it will take, as today they have been voicing this formula for more than six months, it is such a convenient formula because it obliges very conditional relative things. that is, we will support you as much as serhii is needed until your last soldier or desire to fight but let's be honest , no one from our side can dictate to them an obligation to give such and such an amount of ammunition or such and such amount of equipment or aircraft and so on. i am very worried and worried about what will happen before the end of the year er, due to how our counteroffensive will take place and what will be the results on the battlefield, er, this aid may change its form in the states, the presidential elections are expected, and that 's the whole story. er, well, quite formal, yes , because