[000:00:00;00] and that's why we went there, and there's a place for you, well, i mean, it's an absolutely magical story , you know, and of course it is. well, it's very resonant now. it's probably the second most over-represented history in russia after all these prigozhyn stories. and this is what is the state of russian society , i say once again, they are constantly talking about it , they are constantly saying that in russia, you know, it’s like that for traditional values, and honestly , good news ends there sad in krasnodar the deputy head of the city department for mobilization work was shot dead on that run, he was under guard, an armed man who shot him four times in the back and

in the chest . and they accused him of launching calibers on the territory of ukraine, this was confirmed because the hunt was conducted for erzhynsky a long time ago on the myrotvorets website he was published profile and this leads to very serious and very bad thoughts if it happened here and there, even somewhere in the depths of the russian city of the peaceful city, where rockets do not fly , drones do not fall constantly , then this is not the front line.

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good afternoon mr. president badge yes and yellow there is a very beautiful shirt i see a blue-yellow badge and i want to thank you for supporting ukraine from the outside, you actually support our country, mr. donzhiv, what about ukraine, and in this interview, they mentioned that at the beginning of their presidency, they wanted ukraine and belarus to join nato and the eu together in the times, mr., why else then did you do it bet were you convinced that russia would fight with ukraine and why are you unlucky, sir, and why in the end did you not succeed in convincing eu politicians and nato members that it should

be done ? his second presidential term term and lost the elections, it complicated the situation, but i couldn't do it earlier, because the west is true to all the west, you weren't ready for such a decision, so you don't have such a problem. well , admitting poland to nato and the eu is a problem. and what if i told them to accept ukraine and belarus in this situation, they were not ready to swallow it, and that is why i said yes and we will step by step, they want to join with hungary now, and already during the second term of office he is forcing them to accept ukraine and belarus, but i did not have a second term. how are you now evaluate ukraine's chances, what we as a country can hope for from the summit in vilnius, i am a practitioner in

all areas. so, if we talk about nato, then ukraine is the best candidate for nato, at the same time, if we are talking about the eu, there are a few things here , there are economic conditions, so the direction is correct, but economic conditions must be planned better, i am doing everything and will do everything in order to speed up the moment and changes, meanwhile, i remember that if it were not for the escape of poland, i would be in the place of ukraine , the russians were in poland, not in ukraine, i am this i know. i am completely convinced of this and that is why i appeal and do everything myself. because i know that poland was able to fight and ukraine was not able. well , it was not possible to live with the don, and that is why

this terrible war continues in its own way. taras grigoryovych lives after his failed rebellion in belarus, at least, they say that he lives there, and not only he, but also his fellow poles, meanwhile, are strengthening their borders . in your opinion, to what extent is poland and the polish army ready for the fact that russian soldiers can enter the territory of poland the poles will try to see if that general will act, let's see how he will get a reprieve from the poles, but i am 100% convinced that he will not try because i know that there is no chance. well, unless it is a planned world war that they have to leave in order for russia to use all its means if there are such plans, the world must prepare for such plans . and what are they saying in poland now about the war in ukraine? what is the mood

among the people? we know very well that there has never been a more suitable situation to make peace with russia. putin made a mistake with mobilized the entire developed world against me i wanted to restore order with russia when we collapsed the soviet union but it was too early now 40 years have passed since then we should be more ready we can help russia change the political system it's not putin it's not stalin it's the political system that causes that such elections are held, and for that, and for the sake of russia, we must use propaganda to prove to every russian that tomorrow putin will take him into the army, the day after tomorrow he will die , and today his son will die, that his daughter because then he will take them into the military, so not so much with tanks, not so much with rockets, but with propaganda, we must convince every russian that for

his life, for his happiness and for ours , it is also necessary for russia to change the political system, the president of the country cannot have more than two five-year terms, because it will build such a gang was built by putin now, and before by stalin well, but putin eh. then, after the failed rebellion , prigozhina saw that he was losing power, and he was very afraid of that and was afraid of the west, meanwhile, he was afraid that the events that happened in russia recently, they can cause its disintegration more easily on the outside, but the pieces or what do you think, are western politicians ready for russia to disintegrate and is this scenario ultimately better or worse for russia or better for the west, better for the report for all of us, i was the first to determine at this time there are two ways to change russia

, one is to change the political system , which i talked about, the other is for the people, which the russians conquered by force, as they are now trying to do with ukraine, and with russification, they have become not against russia, but they must find their identity. they can stay with russia, but they must say our coffins are there, you conquered us, conquered us, but we want to have our own, our own territory , we will be in russia, but we must have our own, you do not have propaganda to outline the situation, do not be afraid that the russian peoples will now start a struggle for their independence, independence which cannot change russia, but

find what is their age, what you are talking about, because even on those films in rostov , when prigozhyn went to moscow, in rostov, the video or how the people of the spire could be seen as passers-by support the wagnerites, they consider them almost heroes, although they are actually murderers, criminals, as ordinary as a bucket of water, but people give them food and water , they say, “glory to the support, what is wrong with russian society, those people, that they cheer for those who money kills others, why are those who come with war to another country considered heroes? dear mrs. mrs. muvi, the current state of affairs is how

russian society was raised in this way, and that is why it is necessary to remove that upbringing of its beliefs. and it takes some time, we need them to convert to civilization as the whole western world has done , but this is not a matter of one day, today's state of affairs. and even on globalization , it is so divided, the old days are difficult to unite, difficult to understand, we have to get rid of many things, and good people must be acquired, this is the course of things when

a large-scale invasion has been going on for a year and a half we hear in the news that people in the west are starting to get tired of the war in ukraine, or have you heard that there has been a decrease in that among our compatriots, what they say in poland now , in our generation, fate demands of us in view of technical development and even the pandemic reorientation from countries to continents and globalization, how to do it, your development requires it when such a difference in education in the economy is self -inflicted, how to do it, it is critically necessary, and therefore, these are the means, these are the instructions for today. but in order to change and go in the direction of the development of civilization until the end of the 20th century, for the most part, all countries did this, as russia appropriated other territories

where at the end of the 20th century we see that there are two concepts of russian increasing the power of an atomic missile friend through the eu through nato peaceful democratic who wants the more question arises is it the concept will win already this time after putin's mistake , shall we wait a little longer, which is logical, ah, this is benji , where ukraine will not end, what will happen if ukraine does not end the war this year and next year already without our help without the help of our allies, we will not win it, so we need support, so whether ukraine will be able to cope

or not, ukraine must stand on the ukrainian side of the choice, because it is the side of development, the development of the world requires that we act in this way, not with tanks and missiles, but in a peaceful way, voluntarily making our choice , therefore we ask questions about time, about the time when it will happen and about the price we will pay for it. and it is inevitably faster. is it later that russia is finished in this state when it happens? and what price will we pay for it for the development of this change that we as ukrainians should do. maybe you have some advice. so that the world does not forget about the war, about the fact that we lose our loved ones in it every day. i offered for a long time, but

she did not understand me when i asked for help , but i asked not to run with a machine gun . nobel laureates join other generals, other leaders join the help of your president, we will build international solidarity, overcome the idea that it will not succeed and it will not work, this is that, build world solidarity, and thanks to a wise organization, the world must take you in that participation in physical world solidarity and now i'm ready a little more noticeably, you appreciated how ukrainian-polish relations changed during this difficult period that

ukraine is going through. you live better. ukraine has been living since the 20th century. because technical development has gone further and says that a country is not enough we have to build continents and globalization in certain topics in connection with this there we interpret it as a development that took place simultaneously wars were fought early, wars were fought more, it is understood that in the development of the world, all those events were inevitable and necessary to draw conclusions and build a better future . in this way, it is worth perceiving our past, our experience and the conclusions drawn, and thanks to that, we listened

to today we are becoming better than between the previous ukrainian - the polish generation of newbies yes, yes, our history is the lord's own yes, but our common history is always an order of magnitude better july 11 will be the next anniversary of the volyn tragedy and come to find out what is being said in poland today about those complicated pages of our common history. taras bendal. in the fall, there will be elections in poland, or will any of the politicians use this question again, that in the development of civilization and the world, such things

were inevitable , let's understand it. life is all true, but it came from the development of the world. i also paid with my father for the second world war and now he talks with prisoners of war and others because these are other prisoners of war and other challenges these challenges are no longer for the state, not for the country, but for the continent, for globalization, yes, interests and development determine behavior , so it is practically visible. and theoretically, theoretically , everything is as you say. the framework of the development of world civilization, but i agree. but you may have seen that not so long ago the spokesman of the polish foreign ministry, now the former remnants of the polish foreign ministry , lukasz i sina, said that president volodymyr zelenskyy should apologize for

having too many wrongs in memory of those wrongs. to do it were mistakes. there were wrongs, that's all true, but it must be put into the context of the development of the world. if we didn't fight like that then, today we fought, we fought successfully because we wouldn't have had that bad experience. in practice, i see it and in practice it is so, we can act we can fight on, we can either develop and follow the spirit of time and development, of course no one will bring back life, no one will bring back what has been done, it is true, but this is the price for the development of civilization. on may 18, you were one of the signatories of the lviv declaration a document that talks about the need to create a ukrainian center of freedom and democracy in lviv on the model of the european solidarity center in gdańsk

, what will this center do i support such initiatives, it is needed now to engrave our past and at the same time draw conclusions for the future in such a concept i support initiatives of this type , i admit that for me and for many ukrainians, poland is an example of what ukraine should be, how it should join the european union , how ukrainians should behave, how to behave to his country taras poland is going through a crisis at the beginning of june, a lot of people came out for protests, i am very flattered, what is happening

to democracy in your country, it is like a flood , it is a little bit to piers, what is happening now in poland is not in europe, there in the world, it is correct , because in i will change you for now, i want to change. we are moving from the interests of countries to a larger formation in our politics. he is always on the side of ukraine, often harsh and categorical . today, without exaggeration , the most famous electrician in the world became a symbol of the struggle for independence, the leader of the solidarity movement, whose members fought against the communist regime in poland, which man, about whom more than one documentary and feature film was shot, the nobel peace prize laureate and the president of poland in 1990-95, lech walesa

, are ready for the proposal that we chose for the euro , the authorities that written in the constitution, this is all demagogues and populists are trying to destroy, and following a simple example, theorists who are in power in poland believe that if something prevents it, it must be thrown out, but they will throw out one thing today tomorrow they will have to throw away the next one, they throw it out one by one and it remains a dictatorship instead, such parents say no, nothing can be thrown away only in such a way that it fits the present, that it does not hinder, does not complicate, but builds together, and this is the difference between theoretical and practical theorists throw away and practitioners adapt to fit her, to help create an understanding of how the poles will vote this fall, but i don't know about that, because at the moment the discussion is

a bit tense, now it's popular they promise to deceive and this is currently winning during the victory of the victory of rude behavior it may last a little longer but i hope that it will finally end and i will do everything to make it end as soon as possible because these are unnecessary losses and unnecessary enemies because enemies are being made here and in connection with it won't pay off for poland, that's why i'm trying to speed it up, but you can't speed up certain things too much and can russia take advantage of what's happening between polish political forces, for example against ukraine, of course, of course, in the old style in the new she will lose, or the future belongs to freedom and democracy, because technical development and mobile phones, the internet says that such behavior as in russia is not for these times and they will sooner or later, because then again it is a matter of time and the price we will pay for

that is logical, normal and correct, look at poland's policy towards ukraine after the autumn elections, because , as i said, technical development requires us to erase borders , so that we build new things in the economy and in needs. necessary, necessary, not artificial, but for common good interests and therefore we will open up or the technical development of civilization prompts this and my last question i look so bad what what are you saying the last what are you scaring me the last in our and language but once we provide so he thinks that in 10 years we will do the following

interview when ukraine will already win oh, you have to hurry, you know i'm already 80 years old, but i wish you many more years and good health, and in ukraine i wish victory so that we can talk about our country's path to the european union and whether the guilty are satisfied, there is no square without a free ukraine, and to make it clear, according to which you see the victory of ukraine, what should it be like by overcoming the enemy, the enemy can be defeated by overcoming and becoming friends. when i fought with the soviet union, we managed to do this and i became a friend of russia, today i am her enemy because i am on the side of ukraine, because i say how to fight against russia, that is why i am an enemy, but in fact i am a friend of the russians, so the previous good people who got into a bad system got the system in which they have to behave that way