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the following a-a well, he was worried there or there was something nato is discussing without ukraine ukrainian prospects ukrainian prospects in nato and direct language ukraine will be represented in vilnius at the nato summit because they respected ukraine too, but ukraine also deserves respect now on the way to freedom we received signals that the wording without ukraine is being discussed. i want to emphasize this wording only with regard to the invitation and not with regard to the membership of ukraine without the president, the absurdist does not have any time frame, and for the invitation for ukraine's membership in nato, it is similar to the fact that there is no readiness either to invite ukraine to nato or to make it a member of the alliance means there is still an opportunity to negotiate ukraine's membership in nato in the negotiations with russia, and for russia this means motivation to continue its terror like this well, not in one sentence, volodymyr zelenskyi said i agree with a lot of things, and you. well, before

you come to visit nato, you make such a statement. well, what does this mean? well, i received the signals. now he will come and they will clarify the signals . it is very good that the president understands what is necessary. let's go, but let's say negotiations, sometimes even tough negotiations, and even signals that go beyond the boundaries of some kind of back room, in principle, it's normal, it's not er, some kind of problem, the main thing is that there should be a result, so we 'll see, for example, on er, i'm not saying about invitations, because i have a lot of them there are no great hopes for a result right now, but there is an understanding that, let's say, we must take a step in the very right direction and we must receive long-term obligations to support the defense sphere from nato right now, this is very , very

it is important because the president is trying to negotiate something there, but at the same time he is going there, it is right, especially the fact that he is going there, it will be an opportunity to find out the situation there, well, nato countries, yes, they are consulting there, we cannot forbid them this is to consult, but we can express our own position a-a. i think that it will be fundamentally and extremely important , for example, to receive a good number of western planes in 16 but not only there and in f18 uh-uh, it was very good uh-uh this story with these bombs cluster so-called, and now we need to develop the situation with missiles so that ukraine also calms down the west, which will shoot exclusively at the territory that needs to be occupied, including the occupied territories under the pretext of liberating and providing several hundred

such missiles to us well, extremely simplified the situation with the liberation of our lands, so i think that now to be honest, the wording is very good, but even better it is possible to get several hundred missiles from the americans . what will be announced according to the results themselves, these are slightly different things, you have to understand. i really hope that according to the results themselves, we will get better results than eh . well, let's hope for a lot. ukraine and are not ready to go to war with russia, for sure, but the situation can change, the situation can change, it has already

changed many times during the ongoing war, remember how they did not want to provide us with air defense systems, they did not want to provide tanks , they did not want to provide hymers , then all this changed little by little and now we see a lot of vivid videos about how the ukrainian military destroys the enemy with the use of western weapons, so i think that there will be quite serious changes here too well, by the way, i'm very happy to see vilnius. i was first in this place. it's very cozy. it's somewhat similar. well, of course, it's similar to polish places . there's some similarity with kyiv, a similarity with lviv. well, that's how it is, that's our place. you know , after vilnius, you feel like you're at home. you're not . i was somewhere far abroad. and this, uh, this comfort, because even estonia is already there , tallinn or riga. well, it's a little different , but it's still a lot more connected to vilnius, and there's a central avenue. by the way, in vilnius it's called tarasa shevchenko from this avenue

he goes straight to the shevchenko monument, well, they already have this and that baltic country, all three baltic countries , they are extremely pro-ukrainian, they have a lot of ukrainian flags on the street . i asked something else there, it was a long time ago, it was still in russian, you just get up, they pass as always when you say that you are from ukraine, then you can speak do you want to speak russian, do you want i have a moscow accent, if you are from ukraine i can communicate with you, of course, we mainly spoke english and young people there doesn't know russian at all, it's very interesting, by the way. i think that this tradition should also take root in ukraine. young people really don't know, because many, at least in estonia. that's right , they don't know your decisions in lithuania. they go to some regions of latvia, too. they know. and in some, i know, i will ask you this question. they write a lot about it. i see such people who want to know more and try to, uh, play such verbal ping-pong, uh, and presenting their evidence, one or the other for one or

the other side . well, relatively speaking now enters nato from stoltenberg, who says we accept ukraine into nato, everyone supports ukraine in nato, people just have to understand what’s next, what’s next, the troops of italy, spain , albania, poland, croatia will not enter ukraine now, there is a front on it anyway , two armies, ukrainian and russian well, plus there are international legions, that is, there are different forces there, but in principle, two armies have earned money, and now you will not wedge yourself in there just like that, even if you really want to help ukraine, and putin obviously did not drop a nuclear bomb even if he hears that ukraine was accepted into nato but it is real so if they said we will take you into nato further, it is real for this war for this situation now that this specifically now will change because it seems to me that in principle it is real it has not changed anything in essence please change it , you understand realistically if they said we are taking you into nato further, it is realistically for this war for this situation now that it would change specifically now because it seems to me that in principle it is realistic nothing has essentially changed, please

, i would change it, you understand, it was nothing at all eat and drink, and was it scary? he took a backpack with him, it had a computer, he was born in the way young people dress, i say seryozha come on , i thought he would come around the house and come back, and the tail left the house, and when he left i already got up, what did we do with my grandmother? they kept their egos, for now only one thing is known: serhii never made it home to pokrovsk, the boy also did not return , and no one knows where he is now, but serhii's mother still lives in mariupol, but she does not lose hope of finding her son, meanwhile, serhii's father, who has long been he lives separately and is now in the territory controlled by ukraine

, he is doing everything possible on his part to find serhiy, in particular, he also turned to the office-butsman. children, er, to the russian territory, that's the moment, so now i will contact you from that side , so it is possible that the boy was taken to the territory of russia, but it is possible that he is still in the territory of donetsk region, so i am appealing to the residents of the temporarily occupied territories who maybe they see this social network program, look carefully at the photo of the child, if anyone saw the boy after march 8 last year, or does anyone know where he may be now , do not delay, dial the short number of the magnolia child tracing service from any mobile operator 116,000,000 calls to the hotline from of any ukrainian mobile operator free of charge if suddenly there is no connection, write to the chat bot of the search for children service in telegram, any

information is important andriy yanivskyi with economic news on on the espresso tv channel, as usual in the morning after the news at 8:10, we are talking to you live today, as is traditional, we are talking to two financial experts at once. but before talking to them, i would like to announce one very interesting event on august 10 in kyiv at the once we will hold a large technology forum, which is called the iphone - this is one of the largest conferences in eastern europe, for the sake of security, the event will be held in only one room in the exhibition center in kyiv, there is a shelter that can accommodate 5,000 people, so the number of tickets limited to five thousand copies, this time they will talk about military technology, they will talk about artificial intelligence, about

the ukraine of the future, and there were also traditional sessions about promotion advertising and e-e-commerce, about blockchain and about digital fan, that is, different well, for example, computer games well and military personnel this time will be able to get to the big conference for free, for this it will be necessary to rearrange and submit the relevant documents . demkiv, a financial analyst of the isu group, is with us today. greetings, dear experts. good morning. 12 eh and the percentage is a little more than 12%. now the annual inflation is annual inflation . this is fresh data and we see that inflation is slowing down. what does this tell us, mr. mykhailo? i'll tell you, let's get started . inflation is slowing down

, slowing down more than forecasts for another month . previously, it was 15.3%. here it is necessary to explain that a slowdown in inflation, a decrease does not mean a decrease in prices, and they just continue to grow and continue to grow at a slower pace than before, if you take the period of 1.5 years, the whole of the past and half of it, the total prices have risen by more than a third , which is still a lot, but uh, inflation is really slowing down, and this will have consequences very soon, in two weeks, the discount rate will be revised and the national bank will unbelievably reduce it from the current 25% by several percentage points . what will this mean? it will mean that the rates for deposits in hryvnias for bonds will gradually also go down, it is unlikely that they

will be higher than the levels we see perhaps it makes sense to fix er yields. well , as for inflation itself, there is the same