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[000:00:00;00] to the president we congratulate you, so let's briefly tell and show what happened in particular and today, weapons for ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi explained how the security guarantees that were agreed today in vilnius with the countries of the group will work , each of the states joining the declaration will sign an agreement with ukraine separately where a list of guaranteed aid for ukraine will be indicated, these documents will be ratified in the parliaments of countries other than the group of seven states , several more countries already want to join the declaration, the president said, including poland it is also recorded in the declaration that defense support is provided on ukraine's path to nato, then there will be specific, very specific, and signed documents on our bilateral relations with the united states, ours with germany
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, and ours with japan. to you irdifens ppu yes air defense some have none some have tanks etc. i.e. bilateral specific agreements so p mykhailo we congratulate you well let's do it if we analyze the speech and communication volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of ukraine, together with journalists, this evening we demonstrated on our broadcast. there was no despair or regret because of these decisions that were made. that is, it can be said that this is an intermediate victory on the way to our membership, which will definitely happen, but let 's sort it out on the shelves, so to speak, on the component of what is provided to us in the near future and what we receive in the end if we talk about guarantees, how do you evaluate them, in particular , this is the continuation of military aid this is help and support for the energy component these are the finances that supported the budget, well, these are the ones you know, the basket, a compilation of everything, everything that ukraine needs, which is fighting
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for you, what is a security guarantee, you know , i generally look paradoxically at the results of the vilnius summit. how did it start, how did they talk about what we expect, we expect concrete things, weapons, first of all, there are a lot of them , and in addition, the president talked about the specifics of the supply, because when we talk about weapons right away, the question is not what you were told, let's ask a question here: when will they be given and in what amount, and the main thing is that it be confirmed by specific logistics, the president talked about it in bilateral meetings, he said so, look, we are not only talking about weapons, but specifically when exactly they will be in ukraine because we need it here and now and not once it has been resolved yes, it has been resolved in full, moreover, it is legally recorded as long-term guarantees in ukraine, we are talking about guarantees, that is, that not only
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today, but also tomorrow and the day after tomorrow for certain ukraine will receive the sums of certain types of weapons. this means that in parallel we will carry out a key mission that we need to complete. i will completely re-equip our entire army . optimistically, yes. so clearly but when after the end of the war you and i were aware of the fact that after the end of the war we would enter , the procedure was very accelerated. ukraine adopted the same practice as adopted by the two countries of sweden and finland, we look at it optimistically, definitely the third component is greater political integration within the framework of the council of ukraine and nato definitely this is important because we can talk about what we
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lack, when it is not enough and so on the main thing is what nato said. yes, we believe that ukraine must win this war without fail. i personally expected more harsh statements against russia, well, that is, to record that russia is conducting a tourist type of war there, that russia is using genocidal practices, that russia is there has already committed a huge number of war crimes. i would also like to hear it, but let's understand that ukraine directly speaks about it all directly, the international , for example, the criminal court in the hague already speaks about it with appropriate warrants. historical, in my opinion , the very ones who clearly recorded the importance of ukraine for the future security contour, and the key thing he recorded is that until the end of this war, everything we need will be with ukraine
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convey an optimistic historical but a few days before this summit you talked about the fact that the results of this themselves, they can be much more large-scale than we all expect, in particular in the context of the fact that nato itself can actually return its subjectivity returned 50x50 return subjectivity this means today to make the appropriate decision that we, together with ukraine, take part in the dismantling of the system that violates global security, that is, in the dismantling of the russian federation, in my opinion, it is impossible to expect today because the elites of the 21st century are not elites of the 20th century, in addition to the ukrainian one, for ukraine today, the perspective is generally decided whether we will be as a state or not as a state, but expect other countries to say yes, you and i will do it from the point of view of dismantling the russian federation , well, this is too optimistic, and therefore 50 on 50 sub
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the objectivity is obviously already established by nato because they say yes, we understand that we will decide when and how ukraine will become a member of nato, but the only thing they had to say , regardless of the fact that there is a war, we are ready to give an invitation today and it would be 100% nato well, let's wait a little bit, because today's nato, in my opinion, is completely different from nato, which was, for example, at the bucharest summit or at the budapest summit, when, respectively, look at the number, the door is open for you, but there is a partition to open, so far we do not have many questions, and in particular let's recall the theses from the world's leading politicians. but before that, ukraine fulfilled all the conditions in order to receive an invitation to nato , there are no obstacles to this in an interview with the correspondence of radio svoboda zoryanyi stepanenko for his minister e-e minister of foreign affairs dmytro kuleba, on the other hand, according to him, our partners took a position and canceled only the clause of the pdc and now talks about the new conditions regarding the future membership of ukraine
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, at the same time, who should form them, when and what deadlines are currently not clear, noted the minister of bucharest. we were offered a path to membership in nato in two steps. first, you have to go through the pdc as a multi-year program , multi-year, i emphasize, then get an invitation and then membership. now the pdc is removed and they say that your path to nato will consist of one step from two years, but when this step will be taken. when we will be given an invitation, we have not been told when when the conditions will be met, what condition, by whom, they should be formulated, what is our position to you once again, ukraine, all conditions exist
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for inviting ukraine to become a member of nato , that is, here we have at all fundamentally, well, fundamentally different positions, their position that there are some conditions that must be fulfilled, we will work with our allies so that this does not freeze in place and we move forward , a full interview with the minister of foreign affairs ukraine watch the only news on the air of the marathon at 23:40 don't miss it and the question immediately starts from several statements in particular a-a well, mr. duda er-er the president of poland stated that er-e those decisions that were reached at this summit are not enough even though ukraine can become a full member in too few years to the question when president volodymyr zelenskyi would talk joseph biden the us president with journalists to the journalist's question to zelenskyi when you will join nato in nato after the war has already answered the task
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he said after an hour and 20 minutes, but materially, but we remember that there were presidents, for example, in some balkan countries for 10 years, and the amplitude here, you know, from 20 hours to 10 years, first of all, there are no amplitudes, and i understand that we like to look for some excuses or something conspiracy theory, but everything is simple enough, there is a specific condition for the membership of ukraine to be as fast as possible, 20:00, well, 20:00 is a victory in the war, a clear enough specific condition, the only condition that really exists, and you and i have talked about it, we have talked about it many times well, that is, ukraine has already demonstrated itself effectively even during the war . why does this condition exist today if ukraine was ineffective?
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federation that causes a lot of honest trouble, global systems are safe , they are not ready to say it directly, but they expect after almost 17 months of war that ukraine will do it and this is the only condition after that they will tell you at 20:00 please what is necessary to have time to sign summer please sign and so on all other conditions are conditional conditions they no longer exist, well, that is, we have to be conscious in order to save a certain face because this is a process, this is a process . the information process is diplomatic. we are talking about the need for transformation of the state system should be more service-oriented in ukraine, we are talking about the reform of, for example, the security and defense system as such , in the security and defense sector, we are talking about the fact that the ukrainian army should be synchronized with the nato armies from the point of view management consulting training and so on, it is clear and it is already being done today, but the only condition that will definitely fix ukraine as an integral part
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is not just a nato block, but an integral part of a new global type security system, it is necessary to win over the russian federation over a key country how this system was absolutely zeroed out in this war and practically today the foundations of a new system are being laid, where there will be new international institutions , including the new entity of nato, what are we talking about we are talking about where there will be new international law, including regarding military matters and so on. and the legal component will be different and finally no one will pretend that russia came there to kill in the 14th year, i will remind a little of the ukrainians. let's pretend that this is not a war . there is no clear conflict, but we are now talking about what mr. koliba talked about in an interview with our correspondent colleague. he talked about the fact that the action plan for nato membership was canceled in this way - this
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cancels our two-step path, i.e. there is only one step left. but there is no specifics in this step. there are specifics in this step. absolutely perfect specifics. otherwise, it doesn’t happen. win the war. i understand how it sounds. don’t you want to win a historical war ? says and so on, everything is simple enough , don't be afraid to directly answer the key challenges today, there is a key challenge or it sounds very simple today or you are a subject of ukraine in eastern europe or in europe as a whole either russia remains the dominant country in the post-soviet space or either this is one step you have to take it unfortunately we have to do it i would really like the democratic communities to do it together but this is how history ordered it she told you well that is, you do it to me and to all of us
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what is this step, then, the main reason and problem ? why couldn’t the phrase about the invitation be added to the final comic? well, it’s not about the invitation , that’s it. we will invite. just say that we will invite you immediately after the victory. the problems here are pragmatism because not all sichi are still pragmatic and we immediately move on to the second step, not everyone is ready to admit that russia is a weak country that has to lose this war not everyone not everyone is ready to take on this responsibility of the historical plan ukraine must take this responsibility because we have no other choice, other countries have another choice, they can support you with weapons, well, accordingly, with tools, but they are not ready to say that will destroy them. they are not ready to say
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that. the step is concrete enough for us, and they recorded it at this summit, they said, please, you have one step left, one difficult and unprofitable, but you will take it, and for this we give you additional weapons, for this we give you long-term ones, we guarantee you that you will receive everything and the president conducts bilateral meetings precisely in order to record specifically what you want and he recorded look at himself additional yes yes patriots additional taking into account the type of war that is being waged yes yes additional cluster munitions biden takes absolutely tough a political decision that has certain nuances for his personal reputation, but what does he say? look, i make this decision regardless of my historical reputation, because you need it, taking into account the shortage of ammunition, all other countries come out and say, we give you bushmasters, we give you additional m- 113 and so on, what does this mean? everyone understands
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the responsibility before us, but everyone also understands our responsibility that we will use it on the battlefield. therefore, this is one step. i will enter two theses from olaf at once. scholza chancellor swordsmen noted that, in fact, if in the conditions during the war it is more precise to invite ukraine to nato to take such a drastic step for russia, yes, or to accept ukraine into nato, it could provoke the third world war, ben volosa, the minister of defense of great britain, said well, it is a direct speech that we do not, like aliexpress-aliexpress, so platforms we can’t or amazon we can’t give as in the store you know everything you ordered immediately give you maybe in this way stretching our membership and acceptance a little bit in time country is trying to better prepare itself and its rear in case you stand russia first in time stretched not because it is not amazon are they afraid to take part in the war but because it is a war
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it accordingly has certain stages and you understand at what stage it is and we are in terms of rejection ukraine during the war definitely has fear, there is definitely a fear that it is a war, but it is not about escalation. let's already understand that russia is not a big country that can fight with nato. the problem is that nato has never paid attention to what it can accept participation in a large-scale war such as such as the second world war was when this bloc was formed. it was precisely supposed to prevent such large-scale wars and it did not prepare for such a war. today , certain adjustments will definitely be made to the strategy, in the understanding that such wars can also to be trench primitive wars that these are not some wars hybrid virtua and why by the way, gerasimov is not an authority for me because this person can write fantastic novels he does not
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understand what war is in general what is war of a primitive type, when there is artillery, when you are sitting and you are constantly bombarded with 152 or 155 caliber and so on. this is what nato thought that the whole new war would be a spetsnaz cyber ​​war, and some hybrid elements of the war found out that it was not and that is why other countries are not like that. it is clear why the alliance that was formed there in the late 1940s and 1949 seems so. and during these decades , it developed and increased quantitatively in countries and in terms of its weapons capabilities and you rightly pointed out that it was started as a countermeasure the soviets, the soviet union, then later, the warsaw bloc. and so, i have a question, why then, developing only time after time, did they not understand who they were dealing with and how to counter this country, fukuyama , the end of history, they wrote about the fact that when
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she died the soviet empire ended the need for tools to contain the soviet empire, and gradually nato lost its sense of existence because, for example, certain small-scale or large -scale operations in other territories required different training as such, you and i today are dealing with a classic war such as, i emphasize once again, was during the second world war with a classic empire that can fight just like that, quantitatively, qualitatively, non-hybrid, all this is a fiction, as it turned out everything that russia wrote about its there is there are no analogues, weapons, tactics, strategies of a different type, this is all a fiction , this is a standard number for a war, when you take hundreds of thousands of mobilized people, give them old weapons , and go quantitative. attack, kill , including rape the civilian population before that.
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nato was not ready because it was the end of history, it ended that history, it thought that the other war is cyber war, and you did not have cyber war, just not with the russian federation , but in the context of the security guarantees that were agreed upon today, i would like to tell you what i just information appeared, more precisely, a joint statement of several countries, sweden, denmark , iceland, norway and finland decided to support this declaration regarding the security guarantee for ukraine , except for the g7 countries, and the president also spoke about the fact that only the countries of the big seven will participate. yes, other countries can also join, how many countries should join , or was this document effective? and how many of us have rammstein? more than 40, 50, everyone has, everyone should join. and i would also advise neutral countries to join because russia will be zeroed out and it was desirable to record itself historically within the coalition that zeroed out
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such a primitive empire and unconditional security guarantees - this is exactly what we are talking about , the priority of the supply of weapons, first of all , the priority of sanctions that must be effective about the priority of exchanging information about the priority of cyber protection, these are specific guarantees that will allow you to outplay a country of a rare type, which is the russian federation , well, eh , in the end , eh, returning to andriy yarmak today on our broadcast that ukraine will be a greater president volodymyr zelensky during his speech and about the security guarantees themselves, if we started with this and how would we have seen them because, for example, me, something well, no that worries and is not a completely clear point when it comes to the case of another aggression by the russian federation against ukraine , for example, consultative councils will be created where a decision will be made as to whether or not, well, listen
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, the war has been for six months already, the large-scale invasion of the 14th in the east in crimea, etc. and in principle, that would be the case for everyone. it is clear how to counter the armed forces of ukraine. it is clear how to counter our partners . what is the essence of these advisory councils? so that they delegate people who will be directly inside to understand everything that is happening from the point of view of expansion as such what was the problem by the way on the eve of the war i mean on the eve of the full-scale invasion and in the first weeks of the war because the people on that side had objective analytical information about what is happening, what is russia. by the way, let me remind you that on the eve of the invasion, our european friends from several key countries said that
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it was impossible in principle. well, that is, that russia is so integrated in the economic, energy and financial space of europe that it is absurd that it would go to war and thus nullify its investments yes in the european energy sector or in the european economy as such so that this does not happen so that there is no misunderstanding of the motives of the russian federation for this and coordination is needed councils that will be able to directly receive intelligence information, it is necessary to analyze it in a team and draw appropriate conclusions, but you know paradoxically you are right you are right you know what in what in a very simple effect in the end of the war i don't quite understand why we, again, always talk about the fact that there can be different options, there are only three options for the end of the war, the first or we won and thus there is a state of ukraine that will dominate the region in its entirety and,
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accordingly, have very clear partnership relations will be able to modernize the army and have an effective army in parallel with this there will be a demilitarization zone with the russian federation in parallel with this russia will be deprived of missiles of a certain range in parallel there will be a summit on control over russia's nuclear arsenals and so on further and so on the second option we lost and then we just gradually die year 3 5 6 there is a third option in the middle we did not lose but the dividing line is minsk 3 this means that you will just die very slowly they will connect you to a device that will support your life but this will mean that your statehood does not exist. i just want us to record this and clearly understand it. and therefore everything else is an attempt to find some alternative elements that will allow something
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to continue somewhere, to continue the existence of some system things, because you and i have very simple options to win or lose, let's have one option to win, yes, one option to win , and this is necessary so that our partners are clearly aware that we are not just fighting a war on the territory of the 24th year, we have support, that's for sure yes, it has already been approved, and we will see it in the 24th and we will win the war. we hope that according to the results of the vilnius summit, the status of ukraine as a nato partner will strengthen, for this reason, the countries of the north atlantic alliance created the ukraine nato council. alliancesugenstotenberg it will be a more powerful political structure commission ukraine nato which has been active since 1997 so before all member states as a community met with allies now all members of the council will be equal, i.e. president zelensky will have the authority to convene the council in the same way as the secretary general of nato, no country will be able to block meeting for its own reasons
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, we remind you that in the past hungary, which has a number of political claims against ukraine , repeatedly obstructed meetings of ukraine's nato commissions, council meetings will be held at different levels of heads of state, ministers, ambassadors of the military or expert groups, however, as president volodymyr zelenskyi emphasized in vilnius, the nato council of ukraine is an instrument not of participation, but of integration, ukraine seeks full membership in the north atlantic alliance, and the council is only a stage on this path, it is a tool like the nato council of ukraine these meeting e and that for you will be an indicator of the fact that this tool e-e is much more effective than the commission, for me this is in general a key decision of this summit, it finally fixed that ukraine is absolutely subject for our partners that there is no more russia, because let me remind you that the nato russia council has been working for a long time and russia was considered a country that
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controls the post-soviet space where no other subjects exist, today you were told personally that at the moment there is no more russia as a subject which controls everything that used to be the soviet union, today there is ukraine, which is completely subject - it is the first which is completely independent, which is no longer a territory controlled by the russian federation, which has its own interests, this is open to you today legally recorded, even this means that ukraine is finally emphasizing that after 30 years of almost 32 years of independence, it became a huge subject country for the global political process for the first time . this is a key conclusion from this summit . to the full extent that the country with which it is legally reckoned and which will receive everything necessary as a subject
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that can solve all the necessary tasks in eastern europe is the first and second component absolutely clearly within the framework of the council ukraine can to initiate any discussion, the same consultations regarding the risks that it sees in the actions of, for example, such an unpredictable neighbor as the russian federation, what happened before, russia constantly convened or nato spoke. and why are you spreading your influence over the territory that is important for us russia was constantly collecting through the un security council , saying, look, we want to talk about the combat insects that ukraine is preparing to launch in order to destroy us, and so on . russia does not have a council, i am a council of ukraine, ukraine can initiate any meetings, it remains to remove an instrument called russia is a permanent member of the un security council, this is the next task, and believe me with president zelensky, this task will be fulfilled in the same
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way as subjectivity for nato, that's all what we are saying now, i clearly record that this very historical reason, he significantly raised the status of ukraine, gave us subjectivity and said that we will give you everything you need in priority order, same, same positive, so easy to say, i would just continue about it, it's just not entirely clear, again, how will this format , ukraine, nato is happy to work because, on the one hand, mr. zhovkva, the deputy head of the whole president, noted that it should not be just a platform for discourse, but yehor june, a people's deputy of ukraine. he said that he would like to have specifics reached at these meetings again, and we received a concrete plan of what we still have to do or have not done, and that from meeting to meeting from a month to
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we carried out this plan for months during the year so that after a year there would be no complaints against us. what do you think this meeting and these decisions should look like ? passionate is such a good word. dominate. dominate . initiate . dominate. the discussion of this is hindered by only one thing: when people will come there who do not have passion , who do not know how to talk, who do not know how to enter into negotiations. time came people who were just silent don't stay silent when you need to get something logically build the structure of your speech not just pathetic say something there say what is needed give logistics and offer to support it and believe me if you do it passionately they will support you and you
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will generally be considered a leader for eastern europe, therefore, today all the cards are all jokers in our hands, good, what is possible, step-by-step action plan for us, what to initiate before the next summit in the united states of america, what what will take place next summer, we have already obtained the desired result, three are enough simple things, first, speed up the supply of weapons to us, that is, speak clearly if you told us that there will be 20 tanks today, they should be today, not tomorrow, not in a month, and this is a question of the negotiation process, the quality of the negotiation process, the second component of the military - industrial production in your country, it must be, it must be synchronized, that is, if we are talking about projectiles or missiles, which partners should give us, we should show that we also we make repair bases, production bases , tank bases, projectile bases, and so on

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