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[000:00:00;00] and the parliament of the last country of the championship ratifies the protocol of the violation, we now see on the example of sweden how it is not just sometimes, how long it can take, that's why the position of the ukrainian side was to receive this invitation or at least the time frame of receiving such an invitation on this you yourself this this the line of this position was not seen in the final communiques, but as i emphasize once again, it lasted for two days, many important events took place, in particular , bilateral meetings of the president of ukraine with the leaders of the countries of the alliance members, the president met with almost all the members of the group of seven, other leaders and the nsc of nato, a very important inaugural meeting of the nato council of ukraine took place, which took our relations to another level, now ukraine is a member of nato and works in this council of ukraine. and 32 leaders, including the president of ukraine. the president of ukraine opened this summit. and
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the actual pledge at the podillia summit is the declarations about the guarantee of security for ukraine by the countries of the group of seven, and you are absolutely correct. they said that a small number of countries have already joined these security guarantees, this has already been officially recorded. it is true and crime nordic is spain - it is the czech republic, and we hear from other countries also intentions to join the security guarantee of ukraine, this is only the first stage, negotiations will follow next this is clearly defined in the declaration of negotiations on the conclusion of bilateral security agreements, these will already be legally binding agreements. but what is very important is that these security guarantees do not replace our nato membership on the way to becoming a member. it is said in the declaration that those guarantees will work in order to ensure the security of ukraine, the security of ukraine is already important for the state in the state of the alliance, therefore , within the framework of ukraine's promotion of membership, ukraine will have all important security guarantees
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fixed on paper, that is, fixed legally, they did not receive an invitation, and what prevented in your opinion, to get the result that ukraine expected , the lack of consensus to concentrate all the states , or is this a very simple principle on which nato works, and, unfortunately, certain countries from those or for other reasons, they were not ready to give specific time frames, or is there an understanding of what became the primary factor in your opinion, the slowness of the reforms mentioned by corruption , and what month it is among those factors that, let's say, well, in a certain way , influence the indecision of those of the united states and germany, representatives of the united states that corruption was the reason for someone not providing certain time frames, let's not distort and you will not provide me with any such
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confirming situations confirming facts i ask you if this was discussed on the sidelines, as if programming is about what and everyone perfectly understands what those conditions are, because in the communique of the final vinnytsia summit it is said that ukraine receives an invitation, there will be the consent of the member states, this is the owner of the consensus that he talked about and when the appropriate conditions will be fulfilled, and by these conditions, it is understood first of all that it is safe because indeed the member states have repeatedly said that and we also said that ukraine cannot become a full member of nato until it will defeat the russian aggressor, nato or its member states will not enter a war against the russian aggressor, so they help us with military equipment , ammunition, financial aid with sanctions, and this will continue. each of the leaders who spoke so far ukraine nato talked about it and confirmed it, just as every leader
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said that ukraine's place is in nato, but so far there was not enough consensus regarding the fact that there is nothing wrong with defining a time frame, it will be the next ones themselves then the next ones already next year, if it were in washington, it would be the jubilee, so we will prepare for this summit, you know, in washington, where by the way, such fateful decisions are prophesied for ukraine, will ukraine have time to fight corruption and complete all the reforms that we are talking about, because the reform this is not what we should start right now. you know the impression that we have done nothing in the 30-plus years of independence, and here it is urgent . we need to start a reform. what reforms is nato demanding, too, not only about what you are doing now? you are talking about the reform of the military sector, the reform of the security sector, interoperability, the achievement of interoperability between nato member states and ukraine as a future nato member state, and the introduction of the so-called standards of physical grimace, i.e., nato standards before signing agreements on the mutual protection
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of information, there is a whole complex of reforms, so some of them should take place in political sphere in the sphere of legal education in the sphere of anti-corruption fight and we have been carrying out these reforms for a long time as part of the integration into of the european union, if you think that this is not followed by our partners in the alliance, most of whom are members of the european union, then you are wrong. of course, this is all under control and the people are talking about the fact that ukraine continues the process of reforms without stopping even during the war. and indeed this progress the reforms will be evaluated in the final committee, it is said that the minister of foreign affairs of the nato countries will soon be able to evaluate the progress of ukraine in the implementation of the reforms, there are appropriate tools, they are not new for us richie of the national program ukraine has been implementing for more than 13 years, a normal work process is ongoing, which i am sure will lead to a positive result. you mentioned that the security guarantees that will entail legal obligations are actually the next stage
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of signing. from the fact that they do not turn into another kind of budapest memorandum, because even kurt volker already said about this that it frees putin's hands in a certain way. here it is uncertainty in the conditions and time frames of the declaration adopted by the gs7 countries with ukraine, several important time frames are defined, first of all, it says that today , by signing this declaration, the members of the state of joseon begin a bilateral process with ukraine regarding the conclusion of bilateral agreements on security, i.e. here is the first time frame that in the first stages , our partners did not really want to fix it, but the ukrainian team and the ukrainian delegation managed to convince them that this multilateral declaration should not be just a separate document that was concluded and
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they forgot, and this is exactly what happened with the budapest memorandum. no, this is the first stage that will entail a complex of bilateral agreements . from the conversations of the president of ukraine with the leaders of the countries that signed this declaration, who praised this declaration, it became clear that the countries are determined in number to really start these negotiations and to complete them very quickly, again, it will not be about something radically new each of these countries, including japan, which , for example, does not provide us with military aid , military equipment, but gives us non-military non-lethal equipment, respectively, financial aid, but you are implementing appropriate sanctions. pay attention to the text, it says that security guarantees are also sanctions, and security guarantees are the freezing of russian assets and the impossibility of their unfreezing before ukraine wins the war and these assets turn into the funds that will help in the reconstruction of ukraine therefore have a very clear time frame, we are literally immediately starting negotiations with the
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guaranteed guarantor states. as of today, it is the seven plus those states that will gradually join this document, so this will actually be a complex of security guarantees , i say once again that these bilateral agreements will be legally binding and not just pieces of paper that turned out to be the budapest memorandum. therefore , this allows us to say that it is effective guarantors in addition, the mechanism is clearly fixed there. and what will happen if the aggression is identified or after the victory of ukraine , russia will again want to resume aggression and we will not be in nato yet, there will also use clear the mechanisms of how it will work. well, the list of guarantees itself is clearly recorded , what types of weapons are provided to ukraine, what sanctions should be maintained and financial assistance for that is very clear, a practical document that is very easy to implement. and how did they actually react in kyiv? currently in vilnius, the president's words are these about absurdity and unprecedentedness. they
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slightly outraged the western partners , including the one who reproached the ukrainians for not showing enough gratitude. volodymyr zelenskyi commented on his readiness to thank every morning. and here is the ambassador of ukraine in britain, vadym prystaiko, he says that this is not healthy sarcasm, it is literal , probably understanding that such words are more infuriating to the british. i wanted to ask you whether you felt a certain tension in relations with partners, allies you did not express your dissatisfaction with any of the partners, moreover, i will tell you without naming the partners, you understand the reason, but i can say that some partners, and it was the majority of partners, said, well, you you know, to be honest, we could probably do the same if we were in the conditions ukraine is in today - this is war, it 's every day, defense of one's territory , it's a counteroffensive, it's an attempt to return one's territory, it's every day shelling of
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peaceful ukrainian cities it's far into the depths of ukraine , so we understand. and at the bilateral meetings that were held before the holding of the nato council of ukraine, it seems that there were five of them before the holding of the nato council of ukraine, five bilateral meetings, then there was the own council of ukraine nato, where for almost three hours every leader who sat at the round table, i.e. first they spoke in general, then president zelenskyi and then took the floor. each of the leaders did not have any dissatisfaction, and then after the nato council of ukraine, the president of ukraine held a bilateral meeting with president biden, for example, a very constructive meeting which lasted somewhere around 20 hours, it seems, well, quite a long time, since this is not the first meeting of the president of ukraine with president biden. therefore, there was no absolutely clear constructive conversation at these meetings
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they talked not only about the results of the e-ukraine summit, but today the nato council of ukraine talked about weapons, they talked about what new types of aid and weapons ukraine should receive from the united states of america and from france and from germany and from canada and from other partners, so they are absolutely clear important work results p igor, thank you for finding the opportunity to get involved in the ether and money, the extremely empowered ambassador, the deputy head of the office of the president of ukraine, was in direct contact with us, thank you for that, we put a full stop see you as usual on the air svoboda life let's keep it there are discounts on it number two in one 10% in pharmacies podorozhnyk pan and oschad nailer two in one when used you do not need to cut the nail and it is easy to apply it twice a day it penetrates deeply destroys and stops the reproduction of the fungus brightens nail color neinler two in one it's proven
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about what the exchange rates of salaries and pensions will be and how the prices of products will change, information about everything that affects our wallet, and informed means armed , watch the economic news project with andrii yanitsky on weekdays at 8:10 on espresso hello , it is easy to guess that the last couple of days the propagandist, the russians are angry about the fact that ukraine aspired to the other nato in vilnius, but did not take it to nato, but today, moreover, one gets the impression that the propagandist literally until yesterday afternoon seriously thought that such a thing would happen and they were very nervous about this, even though the western leaders did not promise immediate membership and the ukrainians themselves did not expect it, and all those involved in this process talked about the prospects of the promise of membership, and the disputes actually related to the reliability of these promises and, actually, the time limits of those prospects, but then our relations with russia are too much
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, and the russians will still have to get used to this. a little deeper, it is noticeable that the nato summit in freedom literally angered the kremlin and its propagandists, and this anger broke through on the airwaves. well, somehow it is so clear that they chose the baltic countries to hold a tightrope with you, show us that we are united here, and here is the broadcast there with the patriots by other means against air defense , which they cover up, the very thing that is happening today, of course, probably on a western visitor, it can be on ours to make some kind of impression. here's something for everyone, brothers, she's definitely not a target
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and she's invulnerable, we'd have to train too, even if it were in electronic form, for rockets to hit us, we don't need to be too shy because these are fat , interesting, and it was possible to show that we principe, we are ready to send all this gang to bandera, well, general gorulov, he is basically a small person and has long been known by all of them, it was probably not surprising that he said such a thing, but it is strange that the same thing is repeated on other tv channels by people who political scientists even position as a literal american political scientist, that is, dmitri zayans, who calls himself dmitri er-e sypes because he once fled from the ussr to america there , got citizenship there, and now he has returned there to his work. to the work of the propagandist in russian and speaks verbatim, too, a large number of states, a large number of heads of states
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, three military ships that protect the land and territorial waters of lithuania the air defense system and so on and so on and so on, the guys are lucky. here they are gathering to say terrible things, important meetings are being brought, and all these weapons are being brought. but if they decided in the kremlin that there should be nothing more , they would be able to do something to prevent it, i think that they would be able to do this, and probably this same dmitri siemens and his wife and children, who
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for some reason remain in washington we all think after the nightingale about ukraine that's how it is and where it's not about ukraine at all the fact is that this is a nato meeting at which it was actually announced that we should take a course for war with us and that's what i need to understand in our years, there is no such understanding, because we are opposed by a billion people , but which we did not have, including military resources , we are opposed by half of the world economy, and our belarusian brothers stand shoulder to shoulder with us, the rest are so little
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paul, at the same time, our belorussian brothers do not stay with us directly. we must understand that everything is on the one hand 150 million. well, even there, plus 10 million belarusians are 160. and on the other hand , a billion is true. the way russia actually represents the whole world against the small west, which has very little, but it turns out that there is nothing like that, russia is alone and even the belarusians with it are not standing where they should stand as it was voted , well, actually. summits alone, why did they suddenly start talking at the summit, they are discussing scenarios that are more and seriously worrying for the russian federation there, for the first time since the end of the cold war, they have agreed and protocolled the mechanism of action in the event of an open
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conflict with russia, that is, who starts where, in what order, who applies what a blow, the decision has already been made, that is, we are actually on the brink and the next step is a nuclear war. at the last nato summit, they also talked about what to do with russia and how to confront the big one, there is nothing new, but here you know, this hysteria is interesting from the point of view that how many propagandists did not tell that the russian federation is at war with nato, in reality, it does not want and is afraid of the erection of war and what do the russians want? yes, it is to come up with something like a hybrid, a small , victorious special operation, well, a bluff in its essence, which would force the west to give the russian federation to ukrainian territory without resistance, this plan remains unchanged in 2014, the source
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of inspiration for this plan is the imitation of hitler who, with threats of war, first forced england, france and the usa to ignore the annexation of austria, then allowed him to seize czechoslovakia, and in the end, it was this threat of war that hitler inspired stalin to divide poland. and since 2014, the russian federation has implemented hybrid military operations, threatened the world with a major war with ukraine, they demand only one there he pressed the ukrainians and forced them to join russia because the russians themselves are not capable of capturing ukraine and are not capable of offering the ukrainians anything that would force for the ukrainians to be together with russia, they are not capable of opposing the ukrainians on the battlefield as equals, so the kremlin is inventing something to encourage other world players to hand over ukraine to the russians in the 22nd year, the ref raised the stakes and already openly invaded ukraine, they were seeking the same thing that ukraine should be left at the mercy of russia and when
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ukraine showed the allies with its resistance actually, well, very seriously , that it would not be like that, the allies did not leave ukraine to fight alone, and this became the subject of frustration, embitterment, even resentment towards the west the russians are offended because they are not used to fighting as equals, they only want to attack the weaker, this is their way of asserting themselves , and resistance makes them feel like losers, and so they will feel sorry for us, they will look at us as weak, because the whole situation is still on us they look at us as weak, precisely because we have been on the defensive for the past decade, and so that this does not happen, we pushed back , pushed back, justified ourselves, and did not really take any offensive actions.
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have taken and of course when you take such a position they start calling you a weakling and that's when this name gets attached to you, so to speak, it's very difficult to change it when you start to do something adequately strong and it's clear that you're winning . until now, many fucking people think that it's it happened by accident and you don't believe that in fact russia is now completely the second country in the army, there are problems with industry, problems , power swings here, we are also here, there, and so on. shook the entire country, this is completely different from the russia that existed a year and a half ago, well, it’s not that the west does not believe that the russian federation rose from its knees and became strong. further and how russia
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will proceed, let's actually talk with my guest, this is vadim denysenko, the executive director of the institute of the future. greetings to vadim, what will we see next , actually, well, we came to the point that by conventional means, and that's why the articles have now appeared these three interesting articles about well, two by and large, two articles, one serhiy karaganov, which first appeared there in the profile on karaganov's website, then appeared already on ria novosti to show that this is the state's position, where he told about the fact that er, well, the war er it goes so that actually even if we conquer all of ukraine, it still won't be a victory for russia, that nothing will come of it and uh, even if we capture everything, there will still be a broken country that, well, in fact, will uh, hate
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russia and which will not will live on friendly terms with russia relations, and the second article is medvedev, who is the deputy chairman of the security council of russia , who also wrote an article that was stingy with some nuclear threats, and with the fact that, well, give ukraine and then everything will be fine. some kind of exit for some kind of next step of escalation. is this a continuation of the same thing ? what is it now ? this is what will happen the collective support of ukraine at the nato summit and, in fact, the key key decision of this. it is here that everything nato countries will be at least after 2024 is realistic. in the current conditions, it is an incredible amount to support
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ukraine financially, to support ukraine with weapons , that is, the russians also did depending on themselves in order for nato countries not to put forward any more clear positions, at the same time the main conclusion, and i will repeat it once again, is that there is a joint statement that the budgets of all nato countries have been de-factored since the 24th year a separate line called ukraine, and this means that all their bets are that the collective event will split, that the west will withdraw from ukraine, and what exactly if the west says that everyone is sitting down for this negotiation turned out to be mythology, they actually expected that that at this summit, certain decisions will be made that de facto will tell us that closer to the fall we will be forced into the negotiation process. showed that er collective action further er support financial support arms
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of ukraine if we talk directly about russia, then we must understand that in fact for er many people but about the century was separate we can talk but starting with stalin er in fact all external negotiations political negotiations of the russian federation took place internally from the point of view of power and from the point of view of a certain raising of the stakes. and putin could not raise anything at all. now, in fact , we must understand if his psychology is the only trick is to negotiate, raise the rules , and really, for 23 years, for 22 years, he managed to win virtually all sparring matches, and there were only three exceptions to his visa in the world. when trump directly without pre-e.e. broke the troops of this series and the third one is on february 24, 2022. now there are only three things that we and they can raise rates, the first is
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grain, the second is the zaporizhzhia npp, and the third is er scarecrows with a nuclear strike, each of the er foreign policy speakers, let's say so, the speakers of religions, not only the foreign policy of the russian federation, has its own roles. someone is talking about the grain agreement . here they understand that in fact they are putting turkey behind turkey can also play some new games of its own , because let's not forget three months ago, when the last time they extended the agreement with turkey simply for three days it stopped uh essentially gray imports to the russian federation and russia was forced to agree to the extension of the grain agreement in just three days, therefore the turks have enough civil leverage, there are only two things left: the nuclear power plant and nuclear weapons are very uh before the fifth date, on which russia today planned certain tractors on the territory of the zaporizhia npp and

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