[000:00:00;00] to support his war in ukraine for years due to a lack of resources and president putin has already lost this way during a press conference in finland, us president joe biden said. he emphasized that the us and its allies have reached a turning point in history and have also paved a clear path for ukraine to join nato in favor of kyiv long-term security assurances, my colleague yuliya yarmolenko, who follows statements from the white house, joins our broadcast yulia vitaya vitaya marie as us president joe biden evaluates the results of the nato summit, how he sees the future of ukraine in the alliance, you know maria, despite a number of critical evaluations and such evaluations by analysts who say that they are disappointed with the results of this summit, today in finland, president biden assured that ukraine and nato reached a new level of relations as a result of the vilnin summit, he specifically said

that a very important step is the removal of the condition on action plans regarding nato membership and also said that the leaders and ukraine directly discussed ukraine's path to membership in the alliance at the same time on the eve of president biden's departure flew out of vilnius, our colleagues asked him: and before boarding the plane, when does he think ukraine can realistically introduce itself to the alliance, and president biden said that after the end of the war and today, when there was a press conference in finland, journalists asked a very important question, which is also being paid attention to now a number of analysts, if we say this term when the war will end , is he not afraid that putin can do everything to continue this war as god would have it longer, and here is president biden precisely in this context said that he believed that putin had already lost. you that putin is now trying to find a way out of this situation, and regarding his comment about when ukraine can join the alliance and why

it will happen only after the end of the war . this is how he explained, first of all, no one can to join nato while there is a war that is attacking a nato country because it will guarantee our participation in the third world war so it is not a question of whether they should join or not it is a question of when they can join and they will join nato the question is whether putin is restrained from continuing the war, the answer is that putin has already lost the war to putin, the real problem is how he will deal with it, how will he act, so the idea of ​​what mechanism should be used, he seems to end the war tomorrow, he could just say i'm leaving, but what a deal will be achieved in the end depends on putin and what he decides, however , there is no possibility that he will win the war

in ukraine, he has already lost this war yulia chumal , many experts point out that after the summit the alliance remained unclear as to whether ukraine received security guarantees or security assurances. does the difference in terminology matter? yes, i am commenting on this issue . you know the administration of the us president, maria . i think we will probably find out over time whether these expressions of assurances, guarantees , obligations really matter, but what now? we know the administration and other g7 leaders continue to use the word indeed as an assurance or commitment, while president zelenskyi says he's going home with a winning record in terms of of security guarantees, one remains accurate and president biden and other members of the administration say that until ukraine becomes a member of the alliance , the united states and other countries of the group of 7, but also other countries that want to join, and to this declaration, which was signed the day before

by the leaders group of seven, all these countries will help ukraine from the point of view of security , will fulfill their security obligations to ukraine until ukraine becomes a member of the memorandum, so it will not receive a universal security guarantees created by the alliance and this is how today john kerby, a representative of the us national security council, once again stated this in an interview with the voice of america, they will do this , fulfill their security obligations to ukraine for a long time, it will be on the way to nato membership, but until that time from now and until they become a member of nato , will these security obligations continue , are they talking in the white house about the progress of the ukrainian counteroffensive, and what are they saying about how the allies will continue to help the armed forces of ukraine

to win back territories, do you know, maria, is it true a very important question and yesterday journalists asked president biden about it and president biden said that they discussed the ukrainian counteroffensive and with ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky, president biden also met with representatives of the military leadership of ukraine to discuss how it is progressing and how the united states can also help with this at the stage of the war , however, the president said that it was not his opposition , but to report on the progress of the ukrainian counteroffensive. what do we know from the side allies, we know that in the past few days and weeks, a number of important decisions were made , in particular, about the sending of cluster munitions. and as for the duration of the war, today president biden spoke about it again at a press conference and , in particular, said that he does not think russia has the strength to continue the war for a long time, i do not think that the war can last for years for two

reasons, firstly, i do not think that russia could enter exactly forever, first of all, from the point of view of its resources and capabilities, secondly, i think that circumstances will arise under which in the end the president putin will decide that the continuation of this war is not in russia's favor either economically or politically or in any other sense, but i cannot predict exactly how this will happen , i hope, i expect that you will see that ukraine will make significant progress in its offensive and this will generate a path to thank you to yulia, yuliya yarmolenko was on the phone with us from the white house and left many open questions regarding ukraine's future membership in the alliance, but more and more european countries understand that ukraine in nato will help the security of everything of the continent, in an interview with the georgian voice of america service, the former commander of the us forces in europe, ben-hudges, told

about it, while in a comment to my colleague eti makal-dadze , the former minister of defense of foreign affairs of lithuania midna sinkevich said that one of the positive decisions of the summit is the agreement of the leaders of the group seven to provide long-term military support to ukraine. it was not only a nato meeting, but also a meeting of the leaders of the sons group, and it was unusual. the mood improved for ukrainians after this meeting, because even though we may not know all the information about the country provided long-term permanent military support to ukraine, this is definitely important for ukrainians and this commitment is very important , so it actually improved the situation, and in this regard, the conclusions themselves look very good. although of course there was some tension, but on the second day it was general from totenberg and president zelenskyi they were able to put their emotions aside, they focused on the positive

, ukrainians understand that they will not be invited during the war, but they need a perspective after its end, i am more convinced now than i am it was a week because ukraine will eventually be in nato. because more and more european countries understand that it will be better for nato. europe will be safer. when ukraine joins the alliance, while ukraine is not in the alliance, russia will feel that it can continue to attack and do everything she does not have any reliable peace until ukraine is not in nato because russia is the way it is and this is important russia will not change until they are completely defeated so the language i hear from more and more of countries gives me hope that we will reach this decision. maybe even before next year's summit in washington on the 75th anniversary of nato

, the lack of a clear outline of ukraine's path to nato during vilnius itself is disappointing , but the changes in security assurances were a positive, according to the former secretary general nato anders fogh rasmussen he said that the group of seven declaration was based on the kyiv security treaty authored by rasmussen and the office of the president of ukraine on the creation of the document, my colleague maria ulyanovska asked oleksandr bevs adviser to the head of the office of andrii yarmak oleksandr greetings good day how did you strengthen the security of ukraine in this treaty well, in fact, you need to understand that the document that was adopted today by the gs7 countries and we also expect that other countries will also join it, this is quite unprecedented for ukraine and for international law for sure a document that defines the framework security guarantees for ukraine and which can be joined by all countries that will be ready to provide these security guarantees for

us, detailed security guarantees, respectively will already be regulated in bilateral documents between ukraine and each of the guarantee countries, in the vinnytsia document there is no wording of the guarantee, are there any security measures , are they purely declarative, or are there any obligations which countries have already assumed in the end, this is a very good question, in fact, because the guarantee is a play on words actions are required and so on. this is a very delicate diplomatic, legal and political game. but why the framework? why is this document, which was adopted in vilnius on july 12, important? interests of the security of the guarantor countries. this is a very important message. it may sound general, but the philosophy of this security structure is embedded in it. the second, in fact, between the lines, is also to sew the fact that we are actually already considered an integral part of the euro-atlantic family and, accordingly, our security is security is in the atlantic region

, and the third is that this document shows the scale of the unification of the world around guaranteeing the security of ukraine, and bilateral documents, depending on which country is ready to provide this assistance, will be define and use here the terminology that is acceptable both for ukraine and for ukraine in particular, and this is really already a matter of bilateral relations, that is, if we are talking about e-e. the document was signed in vilnius , what guarantees, assurance measures, what does it offer to ukraine, what is it essentially about, the language it is about three key things. the first and main thing is to provide ukraine with the opportunity to fully defend itself against any aggression and the formation of such a defense structure that an attack on ukraine aa immediately was either prejudiced by ukraine's ability to defend itself or immediately

was cut off, it is necessary to understand that in fact all these one and a half years of support from the allies are already partly the fulfillment of this point. another issue is that this document builds long-term such support and goes far beyond what is currently the second and this is the most sensitive point around which the discussion is going. regarding his understanding and it will continue to develop in bilateral agreements, what to do in the event that a new aggression is committed against ukraine, in the event that , for example, after this war, russia, for example, will make a repeat attack and here it is indeed stipulated that the countries enter into immediate consultations with ukraine, and this was in the budapest memorandum and this is a point that causes controversial discussions, but we will immediately say , why? in order to immediately provide ukraine with the entire package of support and assistance that is necessary for it to cut off this aggression and immediately reacted to it, and thirdly , it is necessary to understand that a component of any security guarantee is not only measures of a military or economic nature, bringing russia to

responsibility, establishing a fair peace, when russia compensates for the damage caused by maintaining sanctions before the territory of ukraine is fully restored, sovereignty is restored, these are also components of security guarantees , because many people may have had the impression that at some stage of some compromise , perhaps something will be relaxed somewhere , the allied countries have clearly stated that the component of their obligations regarding the security of ukraine is to maintain the sanctions regime , to hold russia accountable , to collect damages, and these are important measures, so they make the war economically unprofitable and they show that this kind of aggression is different in the world. it is doomed to the same consequences , right? i understand that ukraine will rely more on these bilateral agreements that it will enter into with various countries within the framework of this declaration, and there will already be written specific steps for which countries are ready to go to protect the security of ukraine a-a and yes and no and indeed in the general document in this freedom there is no declaration, if you can call it that, for example, the number of planes

that will be provided to ukraine or the amount that a specific country will provide for support of the national defense budget or some amount of investment in the national economy, and this cannot be there because it is a framework document, but it is clearly defined there and quite detailed in my opinion, and it was also the subject of difficult negotiations with the allies in which directions the relevant specific bilateral obligations should be concluded and detailing these areas was very important because it is all, for example, to have one sentence to provide ukraine with the necessary support to protect itself, this is not the case, and in this declaration it was possible to outline in which directions to be provided with such support if you look, for example, at the paragraph on weapons on further support of the ukrainian armed forces of the ukrainian armed forces in terms of military equipment , it is written directly what exactly is in certain details , but of course each country is ready for different things and the depth of cooperation is different, and this will be written in

the relevant bilateral documents, they bring victims from under the rubble, put out the fire and constantly risk their lives at the beginning of the full-scale war in russia, the kharkiv garrison of rescuers has 10 calls per day throughout the region without support from abroad, such a load cannot be sustained, says the head of the fire department in kharkiv, roman kachanov, in april, he and his colleagues visited indianapolis, where they not only exchanged experience with american colleagues, let him enlist the support of volunteers from washington , anna kostyuchenko and pavel sukhodolskyi will tell in more detail roman kachanov is a rescuer and firefighter with 16 years of experience. for the last two years , he has been the head of a separate fire department due to russian shelling of older quarters in kharkiv

and the region. the intensity of work has increased in says roman several dozens of times, according to him, he is already used to hard work and a bulletproof vest, but he cannot get used to the scale of human tragedies quickly, for when we went to heroes of labor when there was a fire in six different apartments, six different buildings on six different floors, and immediately with this, the bodies of people were lying on the street , some of them had received help, some were already dead there, and children, and i don’t even want to mention it all. however, thanks to the availability of high-quality first aid kits and tourniquets, they were able to to save much more people, roman says, i am sure that you saved many lives then, but it was so frightening. these first-aid kits were provided to the firefighters by benefactors from the ukrainian america fund at united help ukraine. roman met them in washington on the way to indianapolis for a conference of fire and rescue instructors in april this year, it is very nice when ukrainians who have already lived there for 15-20 years in

america, who, well, almost say to someone that they have lost some roots there, but no, they are even more helpful there than themselves ukrainians in ukraine, the kharkiv rescue teams, after the liberation of the kharkiv region in september of last year, went to de-occupied izyum to exhume the bodies of our ukrainians, whom the russians buried there in the forest , trying to hide their crimes and torture, and the like, and there we worked together with professional firefighters from america who have such a non-literal background and they also worked there with you and for these five days we dug up bodies, we heard what the coroners said and described what ordinary tortures were there when almost all the men there did not have genitalia and there i could see for myself, even well, there people, the bodies stayed in the ground for a very long time, but even with his untrained eye, like a forensic pathologist, he can also see these atrocities

. it was very difficult, you see, well, it is always difficult when children, when you see dead children and what died no matter what, it's scarier because of active hostilities, every departure is a risk, says rescuer with 13 years of experience, serhiy bilous, such as enemy mines that a fire engine can run into, the enemy mines remote terrain, there were cases when we were on our way to the exit and while on the way in the summer, they ran into scattered anti-tank mines, now there are other dangers for the rescuers, repeated enemy shelling of already destroyed buildings, the process serhiy knows from his own experience, there was a hit in a five-story building, a rocket hit us. we

began to climb through his rubble to the man. of the district at that time it was naturally scary because the structures were very unstable, shells hit the building , the rescue operation could last several weeks, firemen say. during the one and a half years of the great war between russia and ukraine, the garrison received about 200 specialized machines and equipment from different countries. however , in the conditions of hostilities, there is not enough heavy equipment for clearing rubble, says roman kachanov, just as there are not enough people, there are also not enough people because they die very, very often, there is not enough people, such heavy equipment of various equipment they need for demining since february last year during rescue operations, four kharkiv rescuers died, 23 were injured anna kosyuchenko pavel sukhodolskyi for the voice

of america from the kharkiv region drone individual equipment and means of tactical medicine, these consumable materials at the front are regularly sent to the ukrainian military by american volunteers for faster delivery of this aid, the community in new york has established its own logistics system, every week on a regular airliner , they send at least 50 aid suitcases to ukraine more about the people's landlis, as it is called volunteers in the plot iryna solomko and pavla terekhova every week dmytro ivan yuriy and elena meet in one of the universities airports come to from empty-handed and with cars stuffed with suitcases at the airport, the representatives of the airline are already waiting for them, who have been warned that on their flight the passenger will have additional baggage of 50 suitcases, as they call it the people's lone lease, it is collected from all states, well, usually we cover the east coast, that is starting from florida and ending somewhere in massachusetts

, all these shipments are going, well, that’s how we came up with the name of the folk langlist dmytro recalls with other volunteers in the first days of the full-scale invasion, he met just at the airport at the check-in desk, they also sent suitcases, after getting to know each other, they decided to join forces, we had to provide our assistance as soon as possible to the one we were buying , yes, at that time, it was drones, it was some kind of first-aid kit, tactical medicine, not a single ukrainian transport company in america, right ? could i carry these things , or was it just there, this is the time of this delivery, it was somewhere there for a couple of weeks, weeks, yes, accordingly , we were looking for some moments, well, some options. volunteers within their company sent more than 7,000 suitcases to ukraine, which is approximately 250 tons of cargo, it is customary and 50 suitcases per flight, however, at the beginning, when volunteers sent

suitcases, almost every day they sent more than a hundred, and this was probably the peak in those first years shipment, i will tell you now when it was, it was on march 30. and at that time i was flying and we have vasyl murzik, and we flew with him to warsaw . at that time, we were carrying 156 pieces of iron. dmytro once said that the advantage of this system is speed, usually the suitcase is found in lviv within 36 hours. the people who transport it by plane are ordinary ukrainians who fly to poland on business. ivan sikorskyi is another volunteer, he is responsible for coordinating with people. we write down a list, make a list of some kind, and so that every week of this you always move because if you can't say in advance, why in two months how many will we have, but

everyone always reaches the time of shipment bags arrive from different directions and it always turns out there are 50 bags and there are more than 50 plus people who call simply say i'm flying i don't want to fly empty empty i.e. load me i.e. they no longer have the understanding that it is possible to fly to warsaw to fly already or at all to poland in general and only to fly empty for them is an understanding, we laughed at the joke when biden flew to kyiv and he flew through poland , we all wrote on social networks that mr. biden how did he fly so he could take a couple of suitcases this time we flew from the suitcase kateryna voinova, she lives in the vdykha city of austin. she heard about the people's landlis from the community and decided to help. i want to help. i want to help the defenders. i want to keep my

connection with ukraine as strong as possible for me. i have to do it already and this is the second such trip, so he's joking, it's not scary anymore, well, the first time was unknown, somehow it turned out that none of our team that flew was experienced , it would be very difficult because it was necessary 50 suitcases are lifted and placed, and each time it is a ton . well, that is, 24 kg and 50 suitcases each time are a ton back - it is on and in the car . i was in transit now i am not bragging now i am ready i said that i will leave the airport in the evening so i am prepared, stocked with food and water and everything is fine , we will deliver soon yulia, a volunteer, is already waiting for me for the result, they say dmytro topchii

, the volunteers already have important preparatory work established contacts with the airline, which prepares a place in the luggage compartment in advance and helps with other things, olena blinova works with logistics with documents, she collects all the information about the number and city of suitcases. what do we send e-e about weight when we meet, well, all such moments relationships are technical such moments yes, it takes a lot of time but i like what i am i feel the return that i am in this business i am useful yuriy volitsky one more the volunteer himself flew with suitcases five times, his personal record is 104 suitcases per flight, he says that now he flies less and more, he is more focused on working with papers and communication with other states, today there are suitcases that came from

the enemy, that is, they are loaded on a truck and taken here, and here we are already we repackage them and send them before, it was just living, that is, there was no time for work or anything , a little bit of stabilizer, but now they have settled down and somehow it is already rolling, as you say, here you are already coming more like home he already knows everything , you know everyone, everyone knows you and somehow we already they got used to it, ivan sikorskyi says that at first they carried helmets and armored them in suitcases, and then you left the turnstiles, uniforms, shoes, and the rest of the requests of the military , we buy them here, we are looking for the cheapest way to somehow reduce the cost, we send a little bit and also every week once or two or three times, well, now a little less, but we are trying to send as often as possible so that well, because these things provide so, that is, they protect life, that is why there is no time to keep them , people from the surrounding area out of three come

to transport their things, someone buys their father, friend, in-law, brother, and we only help by sending our own, we also take from other people, just removing the suitcases from the baggage belt in poland takes at least 40 minutes , dmytro says, delivery is even more difficult there , the ballista is passing through polish and ukrainian customs, the help is brought to poland legally and declared as transit oksana khoma and taras kobylyuk are volunteers from philadelphia, in addition to collecting and delivering suitcases in their state, they are also responsible for working with brokers in poland, who help prepare all the documents at the beginning of the it was required with special documents, then when the poles saw that this was happening already on a permanent basis, well , this was the case, and they then.

formulas - this means that laws are changing accordingly, we need to adapt to all the requirements of the european union , i am doing them now, i am making an invoice, evaluating the goods , making inquiries alone and directly to lviv. we control everything so that there are no problems with us there is a group, everyone is on their phones, everyone is in contact in poland, another volunteer, yulia, is taking the load. she is from lviv and is already engaged in the delivery of bali from poland to ukraine. dmytro says he can't even imagine how many times during this time yulia has gone to poland and returned. this probably the only person who knows who has already been there in the last year and a half, three or four of them replaced passports based on the number of stamps in passports for almost one and a half years of volunteer work, only one suitcase was lost, which was later found, although the delivery of suitcases requires a lot of effort and time, the volunteers promise to continue the people's landlist to the victory of ukraine from new york iryna solomko pavlo terekhov voice of america on this we are finishing

in the studio maria pros worked for you thank you for your trust see you on the air we continue the search for 15-year-old nastya lipanova and her 17-year-old sister oleksandra the girls disappeared in mariupol on the first day of the full-scale war on february 24 of last year, and where they are now is not known for sure, and it is not the first time that we are talking about the search for the liponov sisters, and after another program we even received very encouraging information that the girls are all right, we were approached by caring people who told us that in may of last year the girls were seen in temporarily occupied donetsk, there is an assumption that nastya and oleksandra were taken there from mariupol in the first months of the war, and later the sisters could be transported to russia, but the information

has not been officially confirmed, so i i am asking everyone who sees me to look carefully at the photo of the girls, remember these faces, if anyone has suddenly seen the lipovych sisters or has any information about the possible whereabouts of nastya and oleksandra, do not delay and call us on the hotline of the magnolia child tracing service at the short number 116,000 calls from any ukrainian mobile operator for free or write to the child tracing chatbot service in telegram . i also want to remind you that the search for 16-year-old serhiy samoilov from mariupol my mother said that on the very first day of the full-scale war, they were very restless and with every hour the situation worsened rapidly due to the bombing , the family hid in the basement, but the shelling was