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electrician in the whole world, who became a symbol of the struggle for independence, the leader of the solidarity movement , whose members fought against the communist regime in poland's man, about whom more than one documentary and feature film was shot, nobel peace prize laureate and president of poland in 1990-95 , lech walesa blue-yellow badge and i want to thank ukraine for its support from the via

. tego, why did you bet on this back then? were you convinced that russia would fight with ukraine, and why are you so unlucky, sir, and why did you ultimately fail to convince eu politicians and nato members that this should be done ? i believe that this is my mistake, because i postponed the decision until my second presidential term and lost the election, this all complicated the situation , but i could not have done it earlier, because the west before all the west, you were not ready for such a decision, then you are not ready for such a decision, it was a problem to accept poland to nato eu and what? if i had told them to still accept ukraine and belarus in that situation, they were not ready to swallow it, and that is why i said yes and

step by step, they want to join with hungary now, and already during the second term of office i am forcing them to accept ukraine and belarus, but i do not have the second term was and how do you currently assess ukraine's chances, what can we as a country hope for from the summit in vilnius, i am a practitioner in all areas. so, if we talk about nato, then ukraine is the best candidate for nato , at the same time, if we are talking about the eu, things are a little worse here, there is a need to fulfill economic conditions so, the direction is correct, but the economic conditions should be planned better, i am doing everything and will do everything in order to speed up the moment and changes, meanwhile, i remember that if it were not for the escape of poland, i would be in the place of ukraine, the russians were in poland, not in ukraine

i know it. i am fully convinced of this and that is why i appeal and do everything myself. because i know that poland was able to fight back and ukraine was not able to, and that is why this terrible war is continuing in its own way. taras grigoryovych lives in belarus after his failed rebellion. at least that's what they say that he lives there, and not only him, but also his wagnerian poles, meanwhile, are strengthening their borders. in your opinion , to what extent are poland and the polish army ready for russian soldiers to enter polish territory into polish territory ? will that general try or act, we will see how will get a reprisal from the poles, but i am 100% convinced that he will not try because i know that there is no chance. well, unless this is

a planned world war that they have to leave in order for russia to use all its means. if there are such plans, then the world must prepare for such plans and what are they saying in poland now about the war in ukraine, what is the mood among the people, we know very well that there has never been a more suitable situation for bringing order to russia, putin made a mistake by mobilizing the entire developed world against him , i wanted to restore order with russia when we broke up the soviet union but it was too early now 40 years have passed since then he is more ready and we can help russia to change the political system it is not putin it is not stalin it is the political system that causes

that such elections are held, and for that, and for the sake of russia, we must use propaganda to prove to every russian that tomorrow putin will take him in the army. and the day after tomorrow he will die, and today his son died, that his daughter, because putin is in the military, will take him not so much with tanks, not so much with rockets and through propaganda, we must convince every russian that for his life, for his happiness and for ours, it is also necessary for russia to change the political system, the president of the country cannot have more than two terms of 5 years, because he will build such a gang as putin was building now before stalin well, but putin uh... then, after the failed rebellion, the beauty saw that she was losing power, and he was very afraid of this and was afraid of the face, so the west, meanwhile, is afraid that the events that happened in russia recently can cause its disintegration.

in your opinion, are western politicians ready for the fact that russia will fall apart and is the scenario in the end better or worse for russia or better for the west better for the report for all of us i was the first at this time to identify two ways of changing russia one change of the political system that i am talking about said well, and the second, let the people that the russians conquered by force, as they are now trying to ukraine and have russified, become not against russia, but they must find their identity, they can remain with russia, but they must say our coffins are there, you conquered us, conquered us, but we want to have our own territory we will be in russia, but we must have our own, not your

propaganda, to outline the situation, not to be afraid that the russian peoples will now start a struggle for their independence , independence that cannot change russia, but find what is their age, they will hear what you are talking about, because even in those films in rostov, when prigozhin went to moscow in rostov, write about that video or how people spiral , you could see how passers-by support the wagnerites, they consider them almost heroes, although they are actually they are murderers, criminals, still everyday people, like buckets of water, but people give them food , water, they say, “glory of support, what is wrong with russian society, why do they

cheer for those who kill others for money , why do they consider those who come from war to another country dear madam, the current state of affairs is the way russian society was brought up in this way, and that is why it is necessary to remove that upbringing of its beliefs . and it will take some time, they must be converted to civilization, as the entire western world has done, but this is not a matter of one day, the current state you have outlined things well , the current state of affairs is not good, and we must change it calmly, because the development of civilization suggests that we must move to a higher

organization, because to the continents and even to globalization is the same with the divided old times, it is difficult to unite, it is difficult to understand, we have to get rid of many things, and good people have to be acquired, this is the way things are going, the bath has probably been going on for a year and a half, we hear in the news that people in the west are getting tired of the war in ukraine or in mr. o chuva so i have decreased in what my compatriots say in poland now , in our generation, fate requires us , in view of technical development and even the pandemic, to reorient from countries to continents and globalization, how to do it, because development requires it. when there is such a difference in education in the economy in skoda, which is self-inflicted, how to do it, it is critically

necessary and therefore these funds are the guidelines for today. but in order to change and go in the direction of the development of civilization by the end of the 20th century, mostly all countries this is how russia called itself other territories at the end of the 20th century, we see that there are two concepts of increasing the power of an atomic missile and the second through the eu through nato, a peaceful democratic one who wants to increase it, the question arises whether this concept will win over this one once after putin's mistake, shall we wait a little longer for something that corresponds to logic a-a this is a benjik where ukraine will not end, what will happen if ukraine does not end the war this year and

next year it is already our sun without the help of our allies, we will not win it , so we need support that then will ukraine be able to cope or yes ukraine for the sake of its own choice must stand on the ukrainian side, because it is the side of development , the development of the world requires that we act like this not with tanks and missiles, but in a peaceful way, voluntarily making our choice, that is why we ask the question of the time when it will happen and the price we will pay for it and it is inevitable sooner or later russia in this state is finished when it happens and what price will we pay for it for

the development of this change, what should we as ukrainians do maybe you have some advice so that the world does not i forgot about the war, about the fact that we lose our loved ones in it every day. i offered for a long time , but she did not understand me when i applied for help, but i applied not to run with a machine gun. to cross international solidarity because of the thought

that it will not succeed and it will not work , it is you who build the solidarity of the world. thanks to the wise organization, the world must involve you in that physical world solidarity. during this difficult period that ukraine is going through, you live better, ukraine lives since the 20th century, there were interests of countries and regions, and wars brought certain connections to their country, technical development moved on says that the country had continents and globalization in certain topics in connection with this . there, we interpret it as a development that took place at the same time, excluding our intentions in the war

, if it had not been, we would have fought more now, so that in the development of the world, all those events were inevitable and necessary to draw conclusions and build a better future, how should we perceive our past, our experience and the conclusions drawn, and thanks to those conclusions today we are becoming better than between the previous ukrainian-polish generation of newcomers yes, yes, history our own yes, but our common history is always an order of magnitude better july 11 will be the next anniversary of the volyn tragedy and find out what is being said in

poland today about those difficult pages of our common history. the development of civilization and the world, such things were inevitable, let's understand it. finally, we passed into that period, because it was impossible to jump over it, it is obvious that we created a disaster , destroyed life, this is all true, but it worked out from the development of the world i also paid for the second world war with my father and now he is talking to prisoners of war and others because these are other prisoners of war and other challenges, all the challenges are no longer for the state, not for the country, but for the continent, for globalization, so interests and development determine behavior, so practically it can be seen a theoretically, theoretically, everything is as you say, as those wrongs, how to interpret

them, that's how it is, you need to remember everything about it, but put it in the framework of the development of world civilization, uh, it 's new, it's not like that, but i agree but maybe you we saw that not so long ago the spokesman of the polish mfa now the former spokesman of the polish mfa lukasz i sina said that president volodymyr zelensky should apologize for the hydrogen too much in memory those wrongs must be done they were mistakes there were wrongs it's all the truth but it must be put in in the context of the development of the world, if we didn't fight like that then today we fought, we fought successfully because we wouldn't have had that bad experience in practice, i see it and in practice it is like that, we can act, we can fight on

, we can either, or we can develop and follow the spirit time and development, of course, no one will bring back life, no one will bring back what has been done, it is true, but this is the price for the development of civilization . on may 17, you were one of the signatories of the lviv declaration, a document that talks about the need to create a ukrainian center of freedom and democracy in lviv on the model of a european center of solidarity in gdańsk, what will this initiative center do? it is needed now to record our past, and at the same time draw conclusions for the future in such a concept. i support initiatives of this type which means that for me, as well as for many ukrainians, poland is an example of what ukraine should be like, how it should go to the european union, if ukrainians should behave, how

they should treat their country, at the beginning of june , a lot of people came out to protest the science of what is currently happening with democracy in your country about what is happening now in poland , not in europe, there in the world is correct because we are moving from the interests of the countries to a larger entity, and that is, it fell on the countries and the age of intelligence and information globalization appeared. and we found ourselves in the middle of one has already fallen and the rest has not yet been created and i call this time the era of words and discussions as the world as poland as ukraine should

look like we are debating at the moment the demagogues and populists of poland have the advantage to look for better solutions and wiser proposals i hope that all this will lead to a better solution, if there was no limit to bad decisions , then yours would have reached the appearance of good, that's why the poles took to the streets that they were worried because in this structure , the proposal that we chose according to the euro of power, which is written to it in the constitution, is all demagogues and the populists are trying to destroy the theorists who are in power in poland, and by a simple example, they are playing if something gets in the way, then it must be thrown away, but throw away one today, then tomorrow they will have to throw away the next one, they throw it away one by one, and the dictatorship remains , instead, such practices as they say, no , nothing can be thrown away, only adapted so that it fits the present, so that it does not hinder, does not

complicate, but builds together, and this is the difference between theoretical and practical. theoreticians throw it out, and practitioners adapt it so it suited her, it helped to create an understanding of how the poles will vote this fall, i don’t know about that, because at the moment the discussion is a bit tense, populists and demagogues are giving out promises, deceiving, and this is currently winning during the victory of the victory of rude behavior , it may last a little longer, but i hope that it will finally end and i am doing everything to make it end faster, because these are unnecessary losses, unnecessary enemies, because enemies are being made here, and in connection with that, it will not pay off for poland, so i am trying to speed it up, but you can't speed up certain things, but can russia take advantage of what is happening between polish political forces, for example against

ukraine? of course, even if russia is in the old style, it will lose in the new one, or the future of democracy, because technical development and mobile phones, the internet says that such behavior as in russia is not for these times and they will sooner or later because playing then again is a matter of time and the price we will pay for what is logical, normal and correct, will poland's policy towards ukraine change after autumn elections because, as i have already said, technical development demands that we erase borders so that we build new things in the economy and in needs. necessary, necessary and not artificial for common good interests, and therefore we will open up, or the technical

development of civilization prompts us to do so, and my last question is it looks so bad what what are you saying the last thing what are you scaring me but once we go to bed , he thinks that in 10 years we will do the next interview when ukraine will already win oh you have to hurry you know i am already 80 years old but i i wish you many more years and good health, and i wish victory in ukraine, so that later we can talk about our country's path to the european union and whether we are satisfied, there is no free space without a free ukraine, and so that it is clear according to which you see the victory of ukraine as it should be by overcoming the enemy, the enemy can be defeated by overcoming and becoming friends. when i fought with

the soviet union, we managed to do it and i became a friend of russia today i am her enemy because i am on the side of ukraine because i say how to fight that's why i'm an enemy of russia, but in fact i'm a friend of the russians, previous good people who got into a bad system, they got a system in which they have to behave like that. that 's why we need to help them change the system and they 'll thank us, ukrainians will also be friends with russians in the future we will share what did the troubles that russia caused, which it must restore, and later the development of the world will show that we are doomed to each other, we will not move russia anywhere, we will not bring ukraine, so it is better to live peacefully and in

harmony than to fight and kill each other in the office president after 10 years and i saw the name of mr. radio. we invite you. we invite you to my centenary . thank you very much. i accept your invitation . poland in the 1990s and 1995s and the nobel peace prize and the man who became a symbol of the struggle for poland's independence. thank you for being with us . congratulations. i want to share with you great news

. we managed to find two brothers of a 9-year-old artem and 11-year-old bohdan, who were wanted since march 2022. we managed to find out that artemchyk and bohdanchyk are now in temporarily occupied mariupol , they live with their grandfather. unfortunately , their grandmother died. but the most important thing is that they are still with their relatives, who we know that everything is fine with them, the story of artemchyk and bogdanchyk is very difficult, the details were told to us by a man who lived in mariupol before the war in the same house where artem and bogdan lived on march 8, 22nd, in the house where the boys lived, a projectile hit and unfortunately the parents of artem and bohdan were killed. they definitely died during the hostilities from march 7-8. on the evening of the 7th, they, well, her husband, she asked for help, there were some cries, but people were afraid to go outside at night and already in the morning of

march 8 they saw that she was them, well, although a man and a woman are near the entrance there with injuries, here is a photo of the house and the place where the projectile hit. there was an apartment where the children lived, but at the exact moment when everything happened , fortunately, artem and bohdan were not at home, but at the same time, nothing was known about them that day, they were considered missing. igor did not remain indifferent to the fate of the little brothers, he began to look for them in the spring of the 22nd year, he asked us for help in the search and spoke very warmly about the boys and their mother, they were very kind the neighbors are all good, very kind, the children beat er, the mother looked after them very much, she put her soul into them, the children were neat, the children were very interesting, the little one was generally very friendly, he greeted me in general, how

was he, and they patted him on the head, etc. very handsome boys, you know, it was nice to see them as brothers, they really love it. what is it that for more than a year, almost nothing was known about the fate of the boys ? and in this difficult search story , specialists from the community of all flows helped us a lot . in short, all investigators are specialists who, with the help of certain technologies, search and analyze information that is available in open sources, for example in the mass media, on forums, sites in messengers, and, of course, in social networks . so, the experts at flow managed to find the older sister of artem and bohdan, who now lives abroad and contacted her and here she told very important details about this