[000:00:00;00] well, now he doesn’t see how to just go on a rampage and blackmail with nuclear weapons. and there are some coups inside the state with other tricks of his own. what does putin want in this situation? well, he crossed this line. i said he took a one-way ticket, but this is the same end. for him, it can happen much faster than we think, this type of people uh, that is, it is clear that he is trying to incite to raise the rates , but these people love love, you know, life and at one moment they can simply break down sharply, this is the type of character, we are like that

people saw well, in principle, there is nothing surprising, so if you confront him with preemptive forceful steps against pressure, then this breaks him, we have already seen how he breaks simply when the success of the ukrainians at the front is simply faded and a copy of that brewery speaking at russian-directed forums of the future tehnologii he how is this uh they can't make a mobile phone or can't now there are no toilets 50% of the content there is no normal water and plumbing that is why this is the parallel world that they created it will collapse immediately together well, with that by avatar well, someone says there, the doubles are different. it's just not for the doubles, it's just that parallel world in which there is an all-powerful pool, but in fact, that's all i see, it's just not the same russia, it's absolutely weak, er, russia, which

is collapsing, is collapsing putin, of course, with with this clique, but it is collapsing very quickly, how it will end, it is difficult to say whether it will be a collapse, fragmentation of the russian territory itself , i do not know, but the fact that they are weakened is constantly becoming more and more. putin is naked, that is, he has none of this, none of this, what he is talking about. well, let's go ahead and cut him to the head. i don't know how they talk after that and he doesn't accept him, then he returns his money, so uh, i think that this african the leaders need to draw conclusions, as the president drew them and the president is a cockroach in many respects and so are the other leaders , that is why we will see in the future not the strengthening of putin, but his weakening. but why are they pulling ? well

, why are they pulling? the position of the same putin of the fersteiners or, for example, those countries in africa that traditionally received weapons from the soviet union and many other things. well, you can pay attention to that , so i think that everything is going in the right direction, it's just that the resources we spend need to be reduced at the time, joseph biden said that it will no longer be for years, and that the nuclear threat has been reduced to two, it is necessary to hear it , and that ukraine will be too three, that is, i think that these are political signals, they are under them a serious basis, you have already mentioned about president of turkey rzhep and erdoğan a week ago, the turkish authorities released the commanders of the azov regiment, or rather handed them over to the ukrainian side , despite the fact that there was an agreement that the azov commanders would go to ukraine after the end of the war and

there was a scandal in moscow, well, at least they tried to explain where there is betrayal and victory, well, erdoğan seems to have betrayed the russians, at least according to their version, at the same time today the body announced that an agreement was reached with putin on the extension of the grain agreement, although over the past two months we have heard from moscow has only one rhetoric that we will not continue the grain agreement, the grain agreement is not beneficial for russia, it is beneficial for everyone but not beneficial for russia, we will hear what erdogan said today regarding the grain agreement. as you know, we are preparing to host mr. putin in turkey in august, and we agree that the black sea grain corridor mr. guterres at the un also sent a letter to mr. putin. i hope that thanks to this letter and the joint efforts

of us and russia, the grain corridor will be expanded . piskov said that russia did not do no statements about the continuation of the black sea grain initiative by valery, considering erdoğan and how he always keeps his word, who needs to be trusted more, the russian side or the turkish side, a rhetorical question , but they asked. and now the minister of foreign affairs is another, but this person understood the community very well, who knows very well whether all the agreements were agreed or not. we don't know the details of what was talked about. in cases where there is such a condition of staying in a third party

until the end of the war. but again, ah, russia says that this is a special military operation, what kind of war , they understood that they recognized then that they knew how to fight ukraine, that is, there are maneuvers here, and turkey knows very well about some i will use it now regarding what will happen next. i will tell you that after the elections, of course, he will have to correct his actions, because now the economic issues are more difficult to solve than security issues. here they are in foreign policy. played well, very successfully. although i would say that we should not be satisfied with this, the balance should still be even more clear, because all the same, some things that are done in the trade of turkey and russia. they all give the opportunity to fuel these military actions from the side

russia but nevertheless, relations with western countries, trade, economic development for the president of turkey and , first of all, for the people of turkey turned out to be much more important than in this situation any advantages, so i think everything will go in the right direction regarding grain agreements. well, i think that russia will be forced to do this for one reason . such a phrase about freedom of navigation was heard at the nato summit, and the same was said in the statement of the seven maybe they have matured to what they said to russia , or they can say well. so what is your grain agreement that you will fire on ships? and we will make convoys for those civilian ships and try to fire on a turkish ship with a ship of the turkish navy, already

the black sea fleet, which has now weakened by the forces of the ukrainians and it is already much weaker than this, here is the association that can be among these black sea countries, therefore, russia also understands the language of power, it understands, don't do that. it is obvious. but again, i think that this is a strange question. international rules when there is no freedom of navigation. well, what is this? what are they threatening that we will destroy your ships with whales ? well, someday this land should be entrusted and turkey should play a key role in this. i think sooner or later this will be done. i am very do you remember we were very happy when the american destroyers from chinativ entered the black sea, which with one volley could completely block the capabilities of the black sea fleet, and this was a guarantee of a certain well or uh, perhaps by facilitating and countering russia's move, then they

suddenly disappeared for some reason and jumped out from the black sea it was a bad sign and if such a weak policy continues it will not be very good for the chancellery, of course you cannot return there, but you have to keep somewhere more there croatia italy aircraft carriers that the americans they are making sure that this distance is sufficient to show in the event that the russians' answer may be this week, mr. valeriyovych, another event happened, guterres' office reported that the un secretary general wrote a letter to putin with a request to continue the operation of the grain corridor and promised , or at least said, that we are ready to discuss the lifting of sanctions against or it is more correct to connect to swift there rossilkhoz bank is it somehow called that, that is, the bank that serves all the agricultural equipment of er russia with

the world er why in this situation the general secretary of the un well, it is clear that he is one of the parties to this grain agreement. but why does he not pay attention to what you just said about free navigation and the interests or needs of an independent state of ukraine and no one needs to have the right to artificially limit, moreover, to enter into some agreements to involve the united nations organization in this, because it can only be compared to piracy when pirates seize ships, and secretary general ron is there to discuss these issues and says, well, listen a helicopter will fly over there, they will drop your money, please let them go, so that they can be there. peacefully, we can or can these ships

pass you peacefully, a beautiful example, by the way, which i have not heard for many years, from piracy, i will remind you, do you remember the period of 2009, 2010, when all these african pirates captured here and no one could give advice on this. and why, because according to the colonial documents , it was not possible to have weapons of this type, such as heavy machine guns, there, for example, on these ships, and until now, discussions of the great un continued there. what to do with this, how to change the conventions. it is necessary to find a solution if every civilian ship is equipped with a machine gun or a cannon, what will it be while all this lasted, private companies mean that these ships are owned by the owners of the ships, they hired private companies with automatic weapons, more powerful, which is possible

it was and they simply soaked these pirates on the approach and that was it, and then the un dragged on for a very long time and did not decide anything, in fact it had already fixed the de facto situation at the end and now these ships have protection, that is, otaka is bankrupt organization in terms of security, and i only sympathize with the hotel in this regard, because he is an experienced politician and he understands. in terms of security, the statue is destroyed and she and you turned it completely from the point of view of protecting security issues, unfortunately, it is the impotence of the agricultural bank issued by swift well, i think that such things should be carefully looked at because

, er, even though russia there constantly declares that it nothing like this is beneficial for ukraine, they have already done so much under this brand. therefore, it is necessary to look at it carefully at what stage , to whom and how it is beneficial, that is why i am an eternal supporter, of course , convoys and ensuring freedom of navigation , but for this, force actions are needed, which are not there, and the countries of the region have this is still to be weighed in principle. over the past year and a half, russia has been behaving like an international terrorist, that is, they are terrorizing not only ukraine, but the whole world in general. which the world community cannot give if putin is the leader of a terrorist group, it is absolutely obvious and you can list how putin terrorizes the world, why does the world not

talk to putin, rather, why do the appeals go to putin and not behave like this how do they treat all terrorists, that is, they simply kill them, the answer probably a simple nuclear weapon. well, that's all for today, the answer is only nuclear weapons. although i think that there could be clear actions in this too, and i emphasize once again. i think that the threat of using ballistic missiles there, which is often present in our country the glorification of buttons is reduced now, well, almost to zero. if we talk about tactical nuclear weapons, there are certain risks, but they are also reduced compared to last year .

blatant injustice when you seize a civilian object, mine it with people hostage and thus lead to war , only the weak do it. unfortunately, russia gives growth. they are threatening thus, there is no meeting on this yet, although of course the reaction will be already harsh, no matter what they say, but for today, if i simply answer you, it is a nuclear weapon and it is not fully controlled there, if the people who were allowed to do this, this is a huge mistake of the world and the usa, which left these weapons to the russians after the collapse of the soviet union, they also had the right to it, just like us ukrainians or cossacks or kazakhs or belarusians , but for some reason they went this way, now

they will be raking for a long time because of this well, you see, you can't give a grenade to a monkey, there were a lot of complaints about the position of germany during the nato summit, well, at least you see, general hodge says that the position of the united states of america and germany significantly adjusted the plans of the north atlantic alliance, but today schultz said that russia wants to seize new territories and mentioned not only ukraine but also belarus, and i quote the russian president clearly wants to absorb some neighboring territories, he has such a plan for ukraine . obviously, this is also his plan for belarus and said that this is why it is important to clearly state that we will support ukraine as long as necessary and that we will not agree to an imposed peace. russia should

withdraw its troops and stated something. this position, and now no one can ambiguously interpret what germany gives , what germany does not give, eh, according to you, is there an awareness among all the members of the north atlantic alliance that russia must withdraw its troops or suffer a complete defeat. in the first part, withdrawing the cart is definitely the consensus for today, and withdrawing troops, including from crimea, withdrawing from the territory of ukraine completely is a good sign, because even a year ago, this might not have happened. germany has made enormous changes, well, the leadership of germany. i thank the people of germany and france and other countries britain, well, the united states, well, of course

, the closest of our neighbors, they, uh, their peoples support ukraine and the baltic countries . that is, it is a huge contribution to common security , so cashier germany also showed that he can be a flexible politician, e.e., the package of weapons that is currently being allocated. by the way, his minister of defense is very absolutely adequate and a person , that is, a professional person. i see that the position of germany and france is gradually changing. they are already fighting for continental leadership, plus with britain for leadership in europe, so this is a good, good ambition

. i think that it is this war, and the result of the victory of ukraine will show. imagines i already said that there will be something to do with russia and how it will all work here later, this is inertia, sometimes there is a lack of bold leadership, and sometimes it just takes time for everyone who is looking at the results of this year's election to draw decisive conclusions companies at the front, this is also a very important element, no matter how difficult it is for our soldiers at the front , they are doing a great job. we are not just fighting for ukraine now. they are fighting for their children to be able to live freely in ukraine and even to move freely, to work, to communicate, to receive new technologies from these countries, which are currently allocated for weapons, so let's take a look at i think the positions

will transform further in our favor , i can't help but ask you about the emotions at the nato summit, or did we become we are witnessing how president zelensky's tweet, in which he criticized the allies of the united states for their intransigence in the matter of ukraine's invitation to nato, and what was the reaction today, the washington post writes that this tweet almost led to the opposite effect, and almost prompted the united states of america again, according to the shan publication , to withdraw the invitation for kyiv to become a nato member. it was not fun , the military official summed up the high-ranking officials , forgive nato. thanks to many leaders of the countries at the same time. we saw the public absentee pick-up of the minister of defense of great

britain on wallace with volodymyr zelensky when the beehive said that we are not amazon , he apologized to them later for these words and about the fact that ukraine should have thanked an ally, including great britain , and zelenskyi replied that we will now get up in the morning thank you thank you thank you thank you during the war, zelensky's hair is on edge, and everyone understands that a lot depends on every step, every millimeter of what is said, done, declared . let's leave it to your conclusions.

everything has been told about this situation. i don't want to already. let's turn the page and move on. we need american diplomacy . i'm going to the point of whether it's even possible to talk to the americans in such a tone , it's up to the ceiling of diplomacy. must produce a result, i.e. there is a result, certain actions are justified, there is no result, they are not justified , then it is all an interpretation, that is, the only thing i will say is the only thing i will say is that in different ways of influencing

roles, roles must be correctly distributed it's the right time to choose correctly, to understand the limits or opportunities of partners, this is art, this is professional work, art, that's why, in principle, when everything ends up on the pages of a snake and somewhere in the information space, it doesn't really contribute to the work, well , the world is like that now. that is, it is necessary take into account, and of course, pay attention to every word of the politician mala, i emphasize once again, everything determines the result, everything determines the result if the country is at war and the country needs weapons, it needs a member , that is, if there is a result of membership in nato, this

it means justified there is no result significantly justified that's all i only consider with such criteria i don't consider it morally not morally countries also have their own manifestations of their own dimensions, but diplomacy itself is diplomacy, not politicians, not leaders of countries . it should always work for the positive , to bring you closer to create conditions for partnerships, compromises, and good decisions. for your country, that is, that's why, in principle, i think that nothing like that happened here based on the results of these discussions . so that it would change something coordinately. i think that everything will be fine. you just wanted to say that the last two years and international diplomacy and politics are international, or rather diplomats, they have changed. well, that’s the truth

, that is, the manner of communication and presentation of what is said, how it is said, in the end, what clothes are said , the truth has also changed, therefore, in principle, the world is changing , obviously ukraine also contributed to this i will only say one thing. when i said distributed roles, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine should play its inherent role of working in all countries and not only deal with nominations for ambassadors to africa, that is, accordingly, the parliament should fulfill its role in foreign affairs. politics , we have civil society , respectively, presidents, their team, their government , and that's why when this is correctly distributed , there are even some nuances when

everything is concentrated in one place around of the president, it can increase both opportunities and risks, that is why it is necessary to understand that, therefore, traditional diplomacy, which many criticized and still criticize, i am not a supporter of traditional diplomacy, i will tell you, having been in america, in my opinion, i have done much more unconventionally achieving a result than uh is being discussed today, but what in diplomacy is to be brought out publicly and yes, to the whole world, yes, it used to be less well, maybe such a period is diplomacy twitter diplomacy of loud statements diplomacy maybe it will change i i don't know how it will go on. but now the situation shows that you should not neglect good opportunities that have already proven themselves for a long time. well, when you and your partner have good friendly relations between you and if you carefully

look at every word so as not to offend anyone when you 50 times thank you publicly, and in a face-to-face conversation you will say possibly unpleasant things, and not the other way around. well, i profess this style and i used it. it gave results at the end of our program. let's try to imagine what the next summit will be like for ukraine nato in washington in april 2024, will ukraine eventually receive a positive signal from the north atlantic alliance that would give us a green light to nato ? well, you know i don't have an answer. that is , we should strive for this and it is possible to join forces if it would be possible to unite the efforts of everyone, as at the last stage

, it was before freedom, and so that our, er, sorry, the politicians did not quarrel with each other and regarding the elections , but if the efforts were concentrated, well, the president of this civil society should really set the tone society was connected for coordination, then i think the result can be achieved if the stars align, if there are really successes on the front, if russia is relaxed, that is, there are many factors, what will happen all year, we don’t know, but this is the path we have to take. we are going it not one, not two years and this is the right way and i am sure that we will complete it why are we talking about next year male zero jubilee site washington campaign campaign campaign of joseph biden as far as i know, it is from april that they can postpone a little there is still some gap for a couple of months. there is homework that can be completed in ukraine . that is, we need to approach this summit in such a way that no one tells us that you have an under-reformed security and defense sector

or, er, there is a question of a different nature. then all the stars can enter the stage , well, this is not a guarantee that it will be like that, but the window of opportunity has not closed and it is there. 'er fully we members nato or not, i.e. there are no other options. thank you mr. valery for this conversation. it was valery chalyi, a diplomat and extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-2019. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks and on the platform youtube for those who are watching us live now, like this video , subscribe to our pages, and join

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