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[000:00:00;00] therefore, these signals, in which it is simultaneously a signal from moscow and its voters, but it cannot be accepted strongly , this is not an operation. that he doesn't understand f 16 eh and about why i don't agree with the profilers not in finland, not ready for finland, who is 20 years old , just a presentation, so that they were waiting for a chance for finland at the moment when the application was completely all standard nato's just nikita, we were preparing to wait, that is, we need to understand the word patience and understand how everything is taken away from europeans, there is a process, there is a format of an institution , let's talk about it in 16 and in 16 these are special planes in which such countries are not at war with anyone, they have no problems
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they have normal integrations, i am talking about turkey, how many years have they been waiting for, we have already been promised, but we need first of all to have people, not fuel for them, pilot training , we need to protect them well, we need airfields, mass to those requirements, and they give us but we don’t need them, we don’t need them. and god forbid they were crushed somewhere , this will be a gift. putin needs to be made to understand exactly what is being distributed. in particular, let's talk about if you say that this is a sensitive topic for biden , and whether it will stop or not, it will be sensitive for the nato summit on 20-24, which will be hosted by washington, what will change then we will talk about it literally in 10 minutes well, in the studio, we are actually
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continuing to summarize the results of the great of the vilnius summit, who understood what, because usually there are many diplomats, many comedians, many quotes , then we have press conferences, and now, mr. oleksandr, i wanted to ask a question about this, to throw a hot potato about the clash between nato and russia, did they really understand and did they definitely prepare for it , but i before that, i want to give a word pavlo muhammed to give one such a short question , there is one country that has changed very much, maybe even more than ukraine. yes, we have been changing for two years. grain here we talked about the fact that george george is already p biden should be careful because he is entering the elections erdogan is out of the elections and we came out the winner i want so not quite sure but the winner by points let's say yes and everyone expected that he will become even tougher sharp and put your interests first again, but sweden gave the azovians , please. ukraine should be in nato. i arrived myself. what
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happened in turkey, what game is dynamo playing now, everything is normal, the suspicious agreement has already been extended, that is, i didn’t even ask putin, in fact, nothing has changed, it's just that turkey is erdoğan, it's a very strong player, erdoğan's time in his last administration as a president , turkey understands perfectly well and he wants to go down in history. turkey wants this war much more than others, if our allies i want vert, they want our victory, if , eh, you osizlah, that’s how the victory is, examples of russians , if we want to win, it doesn’t want torrent , wants much more, doesn’t want that exactly to get such a huge political whole, which will be gained only in a native case. what kind of case. if
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peace is reached on such a platform, we are waiting for russia and ukraine, and erdogan perfectly understood when twice last year he invited the very first people of ukraine and russia, ukraine was to be demonstrated ukraine is an enlightened partner of the world, and russia is not. now rdagan received everything he wanted for nagorno-karabakh from the russian federation. infrastructure or real estate have already been received from stupka from nato all over the ego and now they are looking at the political corpse , it remains to give putin an understanding, we will see you in a month in august that he is already letting in the swedes, this is the most huge level for russia, at the same time, it is precisely to release or call to my commanders
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of azov, at the same time, he stated that he did not agree with anyone on this gives signals from moscow to putin, think well. this time, because erdogan was the last messenger, and then he received the pdr. erdoğan is an ally of erdoğan, erdoğan is a partner of turkey, erdoğan will do whatever you want, which stigma did he show during his time with egypt from suvorovskogo radio? goths change by 180%. if he will, he will put on the table much more interesting things, and he understood that he received from russia what he will not receive further, if russia does not give him such a political gift that he will give the railway that the sky of the platform will achieve peace
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, while ukraine, crimea, ukraine, then already further, it is possible to switch sides with mastic once in ukraine, on the side of truth, play a new game , strangle russia in the black sea, in the black sea, in the black sea, and not because he wants to because he understands the russian ships. will be able to influence the north sea or the baltic sea, because there is already a sea there and fans are a partner of turkey, those who are quoting or paraphrasing you, if you look at the last interview of valery zaluzhny, which is now being quoted by all the snakes that he gave your anton posts about what is coming out, such zaluzhny is good very partners for ukraine because he once again declares that no one will give crimea to anyone, whether our partners like it or not, that we will fight for it is not a fact that this interview was taken now, i think it is possible i think it was taken yet to myself yes, but for certain reasons, crimea
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came out after him. he even said very clearly that we are talking about the fact that partners can be afraid . he also said that despite the fears of the allies, crimea will return to me . i don’t care. nobody stopped me. the west and translate them let's say so in feelings because until now, well, the west is looking at russia, let's agree with them, they don't talk about this , but they also think about ukraine - these are our good friends who will listen to us. must see before us the new ukrainians, which the turks have set before themselves the most important goal of the national interest, and mr. oleksandru , let's still think about your opinion on whether nato is really preparing for a direct confrontation with russia, why are we we started with turkey because we understand that now there are two such bases: germany, which covers one flank, and turkey, which now also has this big traffic jam in the black sea, the transfer of troops,
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what marichka already said, the process has already begun they are already written about the fact that nato as it exists cannot fight russia, what is happening, they are about crimea, and in fact we all, as citizens, experts and , of course, politicians, should talk about crimea, because it is crimea not only because it began and has laws that will end, this is logical. but the most important thing is that the excitation threat to ukraine as long as crimea is russian is that everyone understands that it is a threat to the black sea region, everyone will understand but the most important thing is that crimea is actually those platforms that are, e.e., missile ships, boats and submarines with e calibers, they are actually created in order to scare europeans and there is an opportunity with a nuclear warhead to strike any territory in europe and actually therefore crimea in russian hands is not an option either for ukrainians or it is very important to constantly repeat in vain about russian with an aircraft carrier, yes, because it is a huge military base, but aircraft carriers sometimes or missile carriers sometimes
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sink because it is the genius of the ukrainian military, and as for whether nato is ready, the united states is partially prepared yes, of course they don't want war of course they get out of that i want peace get ready for war the most from this is what the baltic states got because they updated their defense plans earlier in fact they were supposed to be occupied first by the russians yes and then after 180 yes imagine how many mariupols-waves of irpeni and there was someone to save. and actually this means that there were two days at the consultation, so they were in the 16th position in the year ren corporation conducted simulations and they realized that in two days, in fact, the russian troops to seize the baltic states and then it would be necessary to release it, of course, it is very good that finland is the most capable country in that region. of course, greece with gotland, that is, which can
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control the baltic sea, this increases the possibilities, but in any case, the most important thing is now it is to prevent the russians from capturing these territories at all, and not then liberating them, it’s not a question of how the station has changed, the protection has changed one hundred percent, yes, it is extremely important, but will something change for the black sea or, in principle, in the 14th year after the illegal annexation of crimea, all the efforts of the nato countries were aimed at strengthening the baltic region and they slept on the black sea, we said that it is extremely important if they create and we are one of the ideas of the ukrainian expert community that a separate headquarters should be created for the black sea, not the black sea region, or rather not er, actually the entire eastern flank because certain things happen on the border yes, let's say so, well, the russians like to do these things. the black sea - this is a difficult sea because there is a mantra convention. we thank the turks for the fact that they closed it for the russian
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the fleet is 24, and that is why we have fewer missiles falling on our heads, but the turks do not want to see a greater presence in the black sea countries. and we know that bulgaria is a difficult country from the point of view. he helps us, there is romania, an extremely cool country, but it is small due to incapacity , there is ukraine, which is actually blocked and we do not have a fleet, therefore, of course, the presence of the black sea countries is important with a strange status , well, yes, but you nevertheless, that is, in principle the black sea region remains a problem, will it change? we will see. by the way, literally yesterday there was a map of this strategic drones of the united states. they fly, in fact, they do not fly into the zone that the russians already consider to be their own territorial waters. that is, it is like this after those uh, it means when they did this. it was not only in the black sea, there in the baltic sea too. that is, these are indicators, but by and large they understand that this is such
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and such can happen another moment such that the americans, thanks to this war, they actually have united the europeans and are trying to maintain a united front with regard to china. it is an extremely important thing for those oceanic strategies, and it is precisely those washington skeptics who say that ukraine should be helped or not helped at all or less. they say that we should prepare for war there today there was a very good article in time magazine by one of the ideologues of these trombians, and those who believe that all resources should be available, but he has changed a bit, he says, for example, the high-mars there and the petrovs - that’s what we need more taiwanese but armored vehicles mean, uh, some other systems which are not needed for the war with china, this should be given to ukraine in 16 and 10 means food, yes, that’s all. it’s very good that he changed, you’re not much better than what we have now, we would like. yes, but still, in principle,
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we we are changing that's why they are preparing, but they would like to avoid this war, of course, and that's exactly why they don't want to escalate the situation, they are talking about horizontal vertical horizontal outside the borders of ukraine vertical pressing the buttons he is bluffing on this button, but unfortunately in washington, well, everyone still believes fairy tales, you know, we don't have much time left, the second half, in the second half, we usually sum up and draw some kind of trajectory for ourselves before starting this, see the last article that just happened the statement of mr. scholtz emerged. ukrainian pravda quotes him as the volume of arms supplies to ukraine at the expense of germany from 2002 to 2027 should amount to approximately 17 billion euros. he said that russia's aggressive war continues to affect our lives and very to worry us all very much, that is, this cooperation is already an anti-tank missile system and weapons
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. well, you know , it seems to me that this is a turn, this trend that has taken place. yes. that is, they were accepted and they realized that they made a mistake . they looked at us through the lens of russia . now they have changed. us and for us to protect ourselves, but they are considered in the process and understood. of course, there is military mathematics that what we have now does not allow us to release everything by the end of the year, god willing, there will be some kind of miracle, but miracles are not part of the strategy, and that is why it is part of of such a long team of germans, they will pull it, they will pull it on their own. of course, they will not give us a short way to yessanivna. well, they want it to come, but it is simply a matter of principle. i think that
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it is partly even a feeling of guilt for those mistakes, well, first of all, merkel, but also previous governments, and they will do it systematically, thank god, thank god that they changed it to our studio, they have some feelings of guilt , then to the russians, and now to the ukrainians , no way. with such and such an assessment p oleksandr, well, look at the historical responsibility of germany to ukraine. i think that during the second world war, they and we in the parliament held separate hearings for 8 more convocations and in the bundestag when the green party then initiated this discussion. well, when it was difficult to contain him, sanctions began in the 14th year, and german society had to be explained why the germans had to pay with the help of ukraine, and that is why they explained that they really owed us, but they were afraid that we would not how poles demand compensation and so on. when we said no to us , it is very important to record then, during the second world war, and now why it is important
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to help ukraine win faster. well, one of the conclusions that all our partners to avoid genocide in the eighth year of the war or those political-diplomatic efforts when we were always told that only peaceful settlement is not about all weapons therefore, now we have just germany and france have generally developed a 5-year strategy, that is, they saw that the global struggle for the modernization of nuclear weapons technologies had already begun because we ask. well, we generally need the same drones. for example, when i hear from the minister of finance that there are 40 billion for the production of drones, but the processes and dignitas are not launched together , people collect money for drones, then of course i am disappointed shakes when i see the repairs when i see this cobblestone everything else but nevertheless we have to think about ourselves for now and when korea south korea signed for 20 billion e-e dollars with poland 5.6 already about joint
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production the germans who initially thought for a long time did to give tanks or not, they already have these contracts. as they say, well, we lost them, we said that when there was an american forest. well, which looked more like pr and so on. it is very similar to the linguist who was during the second world war. but nevertheless, we advocated in brussels was told why europe would not do it european lend-lease why will they start production we are not going to sit down at the negotiating table, this time we will fight until the territorial integrity of sovereignty is fully restored and that is why now in europe they see that they really need to think about their security why because the americans what we hear from different sources they said through different channels look if only he to those ocean region will start some friction provocations or a new combat boat all our attention is the united states of america
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they will switch there, they have the security of a bilateral commitment with japan, south korea, we will be there, and then you , europe, will solve your own problems, and that's why when macron talks about this european security autonomy, and we tried to explain it to those who are there now, well, if hesitated about whether to give ukraine an invitation, then we say, look at the armed forces of ukraine - this is already the de facto army of europe, you really need us, and therefore with all the technologies, who has unique combat experience, our armed forces , the delta nettle system, that is, we are already using digital tools are therefore here. i think it is very important that they started to wake up. because when in washington, in congress , when we have such difficult moments, when you go not to those who always support ukraine, but to those who , for example, the senators did not vote for the 40 billion allocated last year aid package when and why didn't you vote, we met with you after the full-scale invasion, you promised that you would support ukraine, you didn't call it a name here well, you
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are starting to make an argument, and why should we american taxpayers pay for the war in europe. we want the europeans to pay more, and therefore europe has an answer. well, we are starting to talk about the security guarantees that the united states of america gave when ukraine became 3. there is a nuclear petition that the security of europe is in the national interests of the united states of america because it is the containment of china if you say that the containment of china in china sees a greater threat, then we will eat it only we will defeat putin, and then, well, the russian federation, their ambitions, then this will affect china, which has global intentions of global expansion there and yes, yes, that is, we have arguments there. but nevertheless, the europeans also feel it, and you saw when trump humiliated merkel, saying you want cheap money from russia, but you don’t pay 2% to nato, and the largest financial contributor is
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the united states the united states of america is in nato and therefore the europeans, and here too, the question even at the summit in vilnius sounded about european countries paying more for their security . in groups of seven just security commitments, because it is still necessary to distinguish between security guarantees and military-technical assistance commitments 115 minutes they want to hear it from everyone now this is the main question what plan are we making now that's why we aimed at vilnius let it happen what he was. nevertheless, we took a step forward, even though we expected a leap forward , and the washingtonians said during the news that washington would still have an election campaign, and there this factor will play an even greater role, and there may still be chances for ukraine
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less or more than that many say that we are the trump card, the political trump card that biden has up his sleeve, because everything is going beautifully and it is the 33rd country . are you sure that we can push through this year, or should we still have a longer game? you do so much for the country, but if i was there and we asked, why should we pay? the second a competitor or the second soviet union because ukraine is now fighting so that it will not be the second again . no, it's not that kopecks, but billions, our plan is next. i consider myself to be the next one, we must accept
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what they give us and only on ourselves , that is, because they have already promised us something and they give it very well. thank you, we continue the question informational and political diplomats, but our vypatka should work in this way. as if we do not owe anyone anything absolutely within the framework of international law. verany for this very thing there and in china for the budget, as beijing is very strong, what kind of statement is the presence of japan and what they can open, specifically, the headquarters of nato in tokyo why why did i say what exactly beautiful baden understands that the confrontation between nato and russia is inevitable, if ukraine is not going to win soon, it’s wonderful not to understand why she understands, either they are losing badly
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, god forbid, or for her security, they need to be helped to choose, they just burn out the right moment , or they are not preparing for a quick victory, and as she created around china, a containment ring was created when the union was created in august, so britain, the united states and australia, the same as the accession of finland to sweden, and they did not create a containment ring, now we know it, that’s all it happened thanks to us, and so now you already remind us of the sins of germany , what are you ? yes, it is your fault. and finland applied for nato membership, it had big problems , how many of the agreement is between it and uh, and russia, and now this coin is in my pocket, i need a host, the third moment, because it’s already
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in china. they’re nervous because it’s really eh, in the usa , they understand perfectly well. we know our detractor in quotation marks i'm talking about bulgaria i'm talking about hungary well we have potential allies outside europe africa i'm talking about olivia i'm talking about posutovsky arabia who are also waiting for a war with iran soon or it is late to combine their resources with our own technology, create a new system against drones or modern drones , in which we will once again show how you work. well, europe is for us, but we are not going to sit on your subsidies, and since we made a mistake before the war, we did not launch these
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drones kamikaze ukrainian сейчас we are launching we need exactly how the zaluzhny army speaks drones everything must be seen ukrainian history is absolutely clear yes take everything they give us thank you and do not sign any documents yet put your alexander's arguments are the first. let's leave three minutes for you, ladies. the first thing is to preserve national unity internally. it is extremely important now. so far , there are no such signs of problems, but you know very well that it can happen. the second moment is such changes that will allow even with these risks that is to invest in ukraine , first of all, of course , the defense industrial complex, the third point is ours.
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the allies of poland and the baltic states, britain as the first ring and then all the others, of course, the united states, the priority is to work with the global rooster, he is problematic , uh, the results will not come quickly, but we have to do this, of course, we have to take certain initiatives. i am not talking about reforming the un and all of these sentences, we are actually forming the so-called european security architecture, but it should be. well, this is an old factual idea . to which all this is being built alternatives cannot agree to any such budapest memoranda we do not have of course we have to take into account the big players, first of all china, and of course we have to show our importance in this confrontation of the united states of the free world with china, deterring it is our role there is, of course, we should not allow china to play a role in peacekeeping - so-called peacekeeping in order to strengthen
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its presence in europe and influence the formation of this architecture of european security is, of course, a big thing, big resources were needed, but we saw that the universe responds to us. we asked. there we showed what we want and we are ready to kill her to die for it. yes, and we have support here, of course you understand the limitations, there are political limitations in the united states about this they said last november in europe there are also certain processes and it is impossible to hope for support for a long time . we have a peace formula. we need to convince that there is no alternative to this formula. rights, all except for such countries as north korea, iran, well, the russian federation, of course, china. they are not interested in this, the rest of the world wants this to happen, especially small countries, so our strategy is regional, and then there are key partners across
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the ocean, and there is a chance. well, of course, while we alive, there is a chance, this is the first well, let's sum up realism and idealism, you know what, and even if kissinger says that ukraine should be included in nato , although he said that he was there, he already talked a lot. yes, he cunningly said that they should forget about the crimea yes, but extremely we do not take it there, we let it slip by, the general officer reiterated our position , who will not stop you? why should we have some kind of wider and sharper road? well, it's not that there's a chance, uh , we'll use it. because this time we'll conduct serious training. so i said that they're lithuanian friends and i'd like to thank them because, in fact, lithuania is you are incredible you fly to vilnius, you get on public
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transport and there is a big inscription inscription while you are waiting for transport, ukraine is waiting for f16 or while you are waiting for transport, ukraine is waiting for an invitation to membership in nato, everywhere there is such support as lithuania, i will frankly say that we should thank them and say, you are incredible friends and we have been doing promotions for all 30 years in ukraine. thank you. we felt it. even here in kyiv , on the balconies on the streets everywhere, they were so worried as if they were being invited and they gave clear advice, start driving around we made him a senator. by the way, baida, who was a senator and the late mccain, were the ones who pushed the lawyer and did everything that lithuania became a member of nato, and that is why i believe that we need to start this difficult work of working with the senate. that is, we need to gather 100 of our supporters as lithuanians which will be two-party republics and democrats, we need to start going to those states that manufacture weapons
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, it's f16, it's himers, all this is based on the patriot- patriot system and explain, in particular, to these voters who say that the war is somewhere far away, you krementom pennsylvania the munitions factory has already been working in three shifts. and before that it was not working because when they tell us that we are paying for your war, they are also making money. therefore, we have to make it clear that we thank you, we are not asking for your troops, we are defending ourselves, but we are grateful to you for the weapons. and if we make such a trip, we are already talking with our american friends immediately with the diasporas, in addition to the ukrainian ones, there will also be polish baltic countries if we make this company so much. it seems to me that ukraine is the 33rd in nato, and this is extremely important. this will be the case for everyone. well, i think that this example of the indo-pacific region is for some of those who fear china more than the russian federation, although the nuclear potential of china is very far from the nuclear potential

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