[000:00:00;00] god of the hares, we thank them for this, and now we have the next guest and this is attention danylo hetmantsev, people's deputy of ukraine, it was so, the head of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on finance, tax and customs policy, mr. danylo, the radio will see you. good day. glory to ukraine with my glory eh this is not the time, you are our guest , the memory of mantsi, mr. danilo, eh, well, let's start from that morning begins with coffee, the council begins with coffee, i know what you have, how can it be done on the example of the market of the illegal market, and on the example of the illegal market of the shadow market of coffee, fakes, counterfeits, explain how the new market in ukraine works . well, let's try to talk about it. let's try. well, actually, the market is the shadow market , the shadow economy - this is a scourge of our ukrainian economy, not only the war, but even before

the war, we had approximately 30 to 50% in the shadows, depending on the industry, and this is definitely not only a lack of income to the budget, it is not the protection of consumers, it is the insecurity of workers, it is generally such a phenomenon that has bad consequences for the future of the country as such well, i personally cannot see ukraine in the eu if we do not overcome this disgrace of iryna kava, this is actually one of the examples, these are shocking figures of 30%, in the shadows, but this is only one of the examples of our ukrainian economy, and this is rather a typical example than an atypical one, so uh, actually what should be done to overcome this phenomenon. i believe that it is necessary to approach from two sides, the first is undoubtedly customs and customs reform, systemic reforms at customs that are still not taking place and which are already

extremely bad, and the second is the second direction, or to overcome the influx of contraband here the second direction is the zigzag protection of consumer rights, the protection of 30 million of our fellow citizens, the protection of the interests of the budget and the army, through the introduction of registrars of settlement operations , accordingly, the decision of the verkhovna rada was made to restore fines for pro from october 1, and i think that if we enter from on both sides until this problem is solved, the childization will be palpable, actually, this is a shadow, and as a result , corruption, including illegal business within the state, is a sufficiently

powerful enemy of our country and it is a threat for our future, therefore, we should not forget about this struggle against the background of the fight against the enemy at the front, if we talk about the same story with the er, 30% in the price of the coffee of the coffee market, this is but but if we say well, i don’t know about the same thing there, lavazzo, which italian brand kalush is educationally well-known , which is obviously very many in all stores, there are lavatsi now, probably somewhere in ukraine, but well, let’s do free advertising and italian, but see if we for example, let's assume tomorrow already at in the european union, we have a customs union, in this case

we no longer have any duty on lavatsa. - this is the sale of goods on the territory of ukraine with documents of origin with a documentary trail and through the rro, this is exactly what the european union requires of us and what we cannot fail to fulfill . therefore, this is the second part of this solution the question is relevant even if we fully open the border. i only mean that it is the same. it seemed to me that i may be wrong. i felt this moment again that the customs office is primarily a source of income for the ukrainian treasury hmmm i think that this is a somewhat outdated, outdated vision, in principle, of customs and the task before it. i know that in our country, all customs officers and heads of customs were evaluated by how much money they bring to the budget. but perhaps today, customs brings good

revenues to the budget, and we are currently relying on it we expect it to be the same before our entry into the eu, so here, well, we cannot say that it is outdated, it is one of the two sources of traditional sources of filling the budget, it is tax and customs about excise. by the way, tax is another source of income, and what are the statistics here now? about excise, we have three main federated goods - vodka, tobacco and fuel. if we talk about vodka and tobacco, we have since the beginning of the year plus eight and a half billion hryvnias to the plan, and there is more than 20% overachievement of the plan in this field we see year by year that we collected in the first half of 2023 compared to the first half of 2022, by 64%

more excise duty, and we see a slight decrease in the shadow sector of the market, and in pogorilka we already have less than 30% of the market, although a year ago it was more than 40 and we have 16% in tobacco, if at the beginning of the year it was 20%. about fuel, somewhere around 10-20% of us are still in the shadows, we in the committee of the verkhovna rada are fighting hard enough against this disgraceful phenomenon, because excise goods are, well, excise is a large , powerful source of revenue for the state budget. and that's why we can't -e aside to remain, in may we made such a tough and big decision regarding the actions that law enforcement agencies should take to remove the walls of these markets, because

in some places law enforcement agencies, unfortunately , contribute to shady activities, and this is also a fact , and that is why we set specific tasks well-known enterprises and in specific areas, and in specific measures with deadlines, these deadlines come out in the third decade of july, that is, already now actually in a week in two i think that at the end of the month we will hold another large meeting of the committee, where we will already draw conclusions from which of the law enforcement officers coped and which of the law enforcement officers did not cope, and we will recommend personnel decisions regarding the leadership of law enforcement agencies if they cannot fulfill the tasks assigned to them by the state, so what was clarified is just vodka and cigarettes in ukraine still remain the cheapest among other countries to the west of us, well, that's true , well, it also means the cost of making

cigarettes, which is paid because we still haven't brought the excise rates to the level of the euro with the european union, although we have such an obligation to do this by the 25th year. we will prove this given that the excise tax increases by 20% every year, but so far they are the cheapest. your position here is normal. what we actually do is not what is useful . for society and people, and on the one hand, vodka is so cheap , or circuses, and this, too, is precisely this source of income for the budget. whatever it is, it seems to me that people object to it, and who, relatively speaking, do not have an addiction to it. see well, here we have to make a decision very balanced why because a sharp increase in the excise tax can provoke the growth of the shadow well, to be clear in the price of cigarettes e-e cigarettes e-e 60% is excise tax therefore the temptation

to sell goods without excise tax is too great for both manufacturers and sellers and if we we will not do it gradually, but we will do it sharply, then we risk the fact that a large part of the market will be in the shadows and you will not do much , just physically, even because they will be corrupt and law enforcement officers will be corrupt with taxes and, on the other hand, businessmen, so-called businessmen in quotation marks, they will find a stronger one. therefore, it should be taken in a balanced and gradual and gradual manner, to increase compliance with the eu. next week , the president will meet with representatives of business . where they face

the control of a state businessman and such a meeting was recently and in principle business is not satisfied and i understand that the state and business can have opposite courses especially those people who are responsible for filling the budget. and you quoted a french statesman and the fact that the art of plucking geese is the art of plucking geese, but there is also a continuation about that. at the same time, the goose was not screeching, our goose is screeching, mr. danylo, and you have there are a lot of haters who think that you are. well, even now, viewers are writing somewhere under our broadcast that this is a person who is drowning our economy , why does he hate taxpayers?

well, i hear these phrases often enough, and when you start talking about something specific, you start talking about some specifics, then for some reason all these conversations either end or pass the difference. i think that in general there are not so many questions about taxes in business and most economists not there, people who have an indirect relationship with the economy behave with the fact that taxes in ukraine are not that high, i don't think that the question of exactly the amount of taxes is the most discussed at these meetings with the president closed, they are talking about how these taxes are administered and that business may not be protected, i.e. basic rights are not protected for private property. what will be the conditions for doing business in ukraine

and the investment climate, well, i don't want to. i wouldn't want to shock you there, but taxes are something that must be paid, whether you want to pay them or not, and uh, talk about what's there in the war e we can count on some relaxations for the cancellation of inspections or for some other moments, but it seems to me that this is at least not justified. since you and i are collecting this money for the army , i want to remind you that the army is the only consumer the money we collect both inside the state and from outside, and i don't know what meetings are held in the president's office with businesses. i know that i hold meetings with businesses every week in different formats and at different levels. i know that my phone is my

the phone is in public access and people call me, ordinary people without them call me and i will say that every specific question is dealt with already well, for more than two years i have been protecting business, yes, there really is a deviation in the activities of law enforcement agencies, it is true, there are mask-shows what have recovered recently, this is also true and probably. this is where the main complaints of businesses are concentrated . if we talk about taxation , then i analyze each case and i stand up for each taxpayer if you are really tax-free because, uh, we have to you considering this issue, do not idealize both sides. unfortunately, taxpayers are also prone to evading some taxpayers, and unfortunately, war is not a reason for everyone to pay all taxes in full. i can

tell you a lot. using the war as an excuse , they refused to pay taxes at all and had to take extraordinary measures to raise money for the army for our soldiers, so watch until we create certain political patterns with you in general terms, you and i will not find rights, because finance is always mathematics, because finance is always specifics, if there is a problem , i apologize to every entrepreneur, to any enterprise. of control, i will provide proper advice and protection to every entrepreneur as well as to a person who is not an entrepreneur; in fact , it seems to me that it is more about the issue of economic freedom

than the issue of let's not pay not paying taxes is just this strange initiative to reduce taxes during the war, it comes from the government, but probably we don't really have time to continue this conversation, but i hope we will have another opportunity, uh, and i'm glad for your appearance on the espresso tv channel, i think that we have something to discuss. thank you. danylo hetmantsev, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on finance , additional and customs policy, was with us. well, we are going on a very short break and will come back and talk about what ukrainians now drones will be produced, what kind of drones are these, the process later two-in-one nailer does not need to be cut when using, and it is easy to apply twice a day, it penetrates deeply , destroys, stops the reproduction of the fungus, brightens the color of the nail, two-in-one nailer is a proven effectiveness, noticeable result, convenient

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hours, vasyl's big broadcast in winter, a project for smart and caring people. the invasion handed over hundreds of drones and charging stations to our defenders and taught more than a thousand of our military to operate these unmanned aerial vehicles , but now there is a new level in the company's activities because it is preparing to release its own fpv drones, what kind of drones are these and how did it happen that from the supplier to the manufacturer has passed the way now we will talk with mr. andrii congratulations thank you for submitting i can be heard and seen yes everything is fine yes on my own how did it happen that simple first how did you supply these drones and now we have reached the point where you will ask their questions, i will start by

telling you a little about myself and the company's activities, and like all other companies that continue to operate during the war , we are doing everything possible to bring victory closer, this is our key task now because if there will be no victory and this is impossible eh then in what sense will this all be in this we move work and achieve i have been studying eh for quite a long time and the integration of the solution related to drones from the front is already extensive takes a lot of time mobile almost not it remains, even so, it does not have the opportunity to cover everything, now we are focused on such things as the countermeasure would be, that is, detection and suppression, and production and training are less represented in the area to be processed. that is, the minimization there is the creation of laying mechanisms for the delivery of gifts. yes, there is something else, but also here we have significant results, and we need a friend, sir, and things like that. at first

, he does not actively help the military . even such a summer course, where are we inviting military personnel who can cover those areas that someone has already passed through a long time ago, and they are just beginning to master communication, there have always been problems, and the problem may not only be related to the war or the military, it may be - in what field and if someone has the opportunity to help and tell someone something , i don't see the point of limiting myself in this, here i am given what i wanted to say , as i wanted to say that all those drones are of the mommy type. well, in principle, they are civilian drones, but they are already at the front are used with different by upgrades. are these upgrades? they themselves have become a separate production stream. it has already gone beyond the limits of just

some kind of craftsman. when someone is there, i am not a military expert . considering that i think the circumstances are clear to everyone, i cannot give more specific details, but i will try to clearly explain the role , efficiency and essence of the use of drones in this war, and we are now being watched by almost the whole the world, our war with the aggressor, with the russian federation, is in a 24/7 state, forcing us to rewrite all the methods there, yes, everyone is now looking at it in a new way and new horizons always appear, what was before is definitely no longer relevant. for example, the technology of drones and their use as ammunition or a tool for carrying ammunition is not new since 2014, when

it all started. already then, together with my colleagues, i took part in the creation of such, as you said, artisanal solutions. these were simply self-measuring frames that were there raised from e-e 500 g there, well, they flew kilograms up to a kilometer, maybe two distances , and that’s all, but they performed their function, that is, they flew to the trenches and did their uh-uh tasks. at the moment , the technology has simply reached the point where it became very easy to transform even some ordinary civilian drone that was used before only for photo video recording uh into something that is able to survive and hit targets yes and only this makes uh the current situation different from the previous one it was taken simply in the blocks of technologies but even now we are faced with the fact that

the more drones are used at the front, the more systems that oppose them appear. and it will be a constant race, let's say, and the main problem. in my opinion , this is a solution that is not able to work under the influence of the rector. that is, what is the point of a cool drone that can fly even 100 km which if it is just not far, it is expedient now , the hydronic technology is very popular. it is quite simple, and its advantage is cheapness, accuracy, and the ability to work on equipment that moves , that is, moving targets, if we are talking about er, standard, well-known moms that carry ammunition, fly to the target and drop it, then you can’t adjust the munition that has already been dropped on some object, and fpv specifically allows you to constantly

make flight corrections, yes, that is, the pilot himself until the last moment until the moment of detonation, he completely controls the situation, and that is why it has now become very popular to simply hit moving targets, but it is a one -way street. and here the fact that he is also cheap is also very, very significant if the advantage is now are preparing to release your own drones, what power, how many can you produce them and what are the needs of our army, you know exactly these numbers that our military calls, they are necessary . they are never limited, there is no such understanding that today someone will give 20,000 drones the front and this will close the issue mine will close because the losses every day can be hundreds of drones there are not isolated cases when you

launch 10-20 e-e was to offend some target and it is very well protected and none of them reach the target and that is normal there is nothing here that someone is the most efficient or someone works poorly, this is a situation that needs to be worked with and you need to constantly look for loopholes that will allow you to effectively perform a combat mission, this is and we also pass our courses uh, that is, there are also military games in which uh for real events, things and people can be ready at least for those situations that they can deal with already at the front, the fact that we are preparing for the production of fpv is a question more than today, we never know what will happen next and what will be the power of the enemy

and it still exists at that moment, will it be relevant or will it lose its relevance? so, for example, now there is such a thing as anonymization, until recently it was exclusively the privilege of our side. currently, according to my data, it is known that minimization is already being done on the other side , therefore the relevance of decoding solutions i.e. obtaining the telemetry data of the collection and the drone, and not its bearing in the radio frequency space , is also losing its relevance, so we will try to make it useful and powerful now, and not leave this issue for later capacities. we have a fairly strong service the team is really, er, very smart guys whom i already sent at the beginning of the war to study together with our military and to germany, who took courses there to improve the skills of radio electronic warfare, and now we are dealing with this very issue

in one of the effective ways, we can do the same victories are timely access to the necessary weapons, lobo is very good if all companies started working on what they started to discover, at least as we are planning now with the german producer of ronium, it is means of rep large-nodular on the side, it will significantly accelerate obtaining the necessary equipment by the military will create jobs there will essentially give access to advanced technologies within the state. i think that this is the way to go now, not to wait for someone to hand over something, but simply to take and produce here with your own hands, take and produce with your own hands . thank you, mr. andrii, for the conversation for what you are doing, andriy shtepa, co-owner of the airit company, which is going to launch the production of fp-v drones

. it turned out like this, 86 cops are chasing us, but the result for this morning is not bad with andrii seychuk, we will return to the studio at 2:00 p.m. and continue our marathon eh well, eh, from the press, the ether continues and you will watch the program verdict serhiy rudenko glory to ukraine is a program, my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone and i wish everyone good health. russia agreed to extend the grain agreement, the president of turkey, recep tayyip erdoğan, announced this now. as erdoğan says, he is waiting for putin in turkey to continue the dialogue, dmitry peskov. putin's press secretary stated that russia did not