[000:00:00;00] oh, putin doesn't see any other way out now than just going to the battering ram and blackmailing with nuclear weapons. there are some coups inside the state with other tricks of his own. what does putin want in this situation? well, he crossed this line. i said he took a one-way ticket, but this is the end for him can come much faster than we think, this is the type of people, uh, that is, it is clear that he is trying to increase the stakes , but these people love love, you know, life and at one moment they can simply break down sharply, this is the type of character, we are like that

people saw well, in principle, there is nothing surprising, so if you confront him with preemptive forceful steps against pressure, it breaks him, we have already seen how he breaks simply when the success of the ukrainians at the front is just a faded er and a copy of the er torgo speaking at russian-directed forums of future technologies how come they can't make a mobile phone or can't now there are no toilets 50% of the content there is no normal water and plumbing, that is why this is the parallel world they created will collapse immediately together well, with that by avatar well, someone says there, the doubles are different. it's just not because the doubles are just that parallel world in which there is an all-powerful pool, but in fact, i see everything. it's just not the same russia. it's absolutely weak, uh, russia, which is

collapsing, collapsing, and putin, of course, with this clique, but it is collapsing very quickly, how it will end, it is difficult to say whether it will be a collapse, fragmentation of the russian territory itself , i do not know, but the fact that they are weakened is constantly becoming more and more. naked putin is naked, that is, he has none of this, none of this, what is he talking about? well, let's finish it, in general, his section is there again to the head. i don't know how after that they talk and he doesn't accept it, then there you transfer him money , so uh, i think that these african leaders need to draw conclusions, as president ertağan did in many respects and other leaders , that is why we will see in the future not the strengthening of putin , but his weakening. but why are they pulling? why

are they pulling? with a blurred position, the same putin of the fersteiners or, for example, those countries in africa that traditionally received weapons from the soviet union, er, and many other things. well, you can pay attention to this, so i think that everything is going in the right way, we just need the resources that we spend to reduce this time and the fact that joseph biden said that it will not be for years anymore and that the nuclear threat has been reduced two must be heard and that ukraine will be in nato three i.e. i think that these are political signals, they are under them a serious foundation of erdogan's turkey a week ago the turkish authorities released the commanders of the azov regiment, or rather handed them over to the ukrainian side, despite the fact that there was an agreement that the azov regiments would go to ukraine

after the end of the war and there was a scandal in moscow , well, at least they tried to explain where there is betrayal and victory, well, in a word, erdogan seemed to betray the russians in at least according to their version , at the same time today erdağan announced that an agreement was reached with putin on the continuation of the grain agreement, although over the past two months we have heard only one rhetoric from moscow that we will not continue the grain agreement the grain agreement is not beneficial for russia it is beneficial for everyone but it is not beneficial for russia what the pagan said today about the grain agreement we will hear as you know we are preparing to host mr. putin in turkey in august and we agree that the black sea grain corridor should be expanded letter to mr. putin i hope that thanks

to this letter and the joint efforts of us and russia , the grain corridor will be expanded, piskov said that russia did not make any statements about the extension of the black sea grain corridor initiatives of valery, given erdoğan's actions and the way he always keeps his word , who should be trusted more, the russian side or the turkish side, a rhetorical question , but they asked. this person understood the community very well, who knows all the agreements very well. we don't know the details of what was said . of course, according to the geneva convention, in such cases when there is such a condition there

the stay of the third party until the end of the war but again, ah, russia says that this is a special military operation , what kind of war ? i will tell you that after the elections, of course, he will have some correction in his actions, because now the economic issues are more difficult for him to solve than security issues, here they are in foreign policy, they played well successful although i would say that we, well, it should not suit us, the balance should still be even more clear, because all the same some things that are done in the trade of turkey with russia they all the same give the opportunity to fuel these

military actions on the part of russia but because relations with western countries , trade, economic development for the president of turkey and, first of all, for the people of turkey turned out to be much more important than in this situation any advantages, so i think everything will go in the right direction regarding grain agreement well, i think that russia will be forced to do it for one such reason , at the nato summit such a phrase about freedom of navigation was sounded and in the statement of the seven it was the same and what does this mean and it means that these countries are still turkey a country and other regions in of the black sea may have matured to what they said to russia or they can say well so what is your grain agreement that you will fire on ships and we will make convoys for those civilian ships and try to fire on

a turkish ship with a ship of the turkish navy already the black sea fleet, which has now been weakened by the forces of the ukrainians and is already much weaker than this union that can be among these black sea countries, therefore russia also understands the language of strength, understands that this signal has been heard. it is obvious. but again, i think it is strange in general raising the question what kind of international rules are there when there is no freedom of navigation? well, what is it? what are they threatening that we will be happy with your ships ? well, one day in this region should be laid and turkey should play a key role in this. i i think that sooner or later this will be done. well, when the american destroyers of chinativ entered the black sea, which with one volley could completely block the capabilities of the black sea fleet, and this was a guarantee of a certain well, or uh , by facilitating and countering, possibly in the course of russia

, then they suddenly, for some reason, all from there disappeared, jumped out of the black sea. it was a bad sign, and if such a weak policy continues , it will not be very good. now, turkey has closed the straits, of course you cannot return there, but you have to keep somewhere more there. croatia, italy, aircraft carriers, what are the americans doing to ensure that this distance is sufficient, in which case to show? perhaps the russians' answer this week, mr. valeriyovych, another event happened, guterres's office reported that the un secretary general wrote a letter to putin with a request to continue the operation of the grain corridor and promised or at least said that we are ready to discuss removing sanctions against or rather connecting to swift there rossilhoz bank is there something called that, that is, a bank that services all

these agricultural equipment e-e of russia from the world. why in this situation is the secretary general of the united nations? well, it is clear that he is one of the parties to this grain agreement. but why does he not pay attention to what you just said about the fact that there is free navigation and there are interests there? the needs of an independent state, ukraine, and no one needs to have the right to artificially limit it. moreover, to enter into some agreements to include the united nations organization in third countries because, well, it can only be compared to piracy when pirates seize ships and secretary general ron is there to discuss these issues and he says, listen

a helicopter will fly over there, they will drop your money, please let them go, so that they can be there. peacefully, we can or can these ships pass you peacefully, a beautiful example, by the way, which i have not heard for many years, from piracy, i will remind you, do you remember the period of 2009, 2010, when all these african pirates captured here and no one could give advice on this. and why, because according to the colonial documents , it was not possible to have weapons of this type, heavy machine guns there, for example, on these ships, and while this was going on there, discussions of the great un what to do with this, how to change the conventions. it is necessary to find a solution if every civilian ship is equipped with a machine gun or a cannon, what will it be while all this lasted, private companies mean that these ships are owned by the owners of the ships, they hired private companies with automatic weapons, more powerful, which is possible

it was and they simply soaked these pirates on the approach and that was it, and then the un dragged on for a very long time and nothing was resolved, in fact it already fixed the de facto situation at the end and now these ships have protection, that is, otaka, he was spinning organization in terms of security, and i only sympathize with the hotel in this regard, because he is an experienced politician and he understands. in terms of security, the statue is destroyed and it is completely bankrupt, from the point of view of protecting security issues, unfortunately, this is powerlessness . and the fact that the agricultural bank was issued by the world well, i think that such things should be carefully looked at

because, er, even though russia constantly declares that it is beneficial for ukraine, nothing like that, they have already done so much under this brand. therefore, it is necessary to look at it carefully at what stage , to whom, how and what is beneficial, that is why i am an assistant , of course, convoys and ensuring freedom of navigation, but for this you need force actions, which you do not have, and the country of the region should consider this in principle. over the past year and a half, russia has been behaving like an international terrorist, that is, they are terrorizing not only ukraine, but the whole world in general. which the world community cannot accept. if putin is the leader of a terrorist group. and this is absolutely obvious and you can list

how putin terrorizes the world. why does the world not talk to putin, rather why do they go to putin and not behave like this? how do they treat all terrorists, that is, just them they kill, the answer is probably simple nuclear weapons. well, that's all for today, the answer is only nuclear weapons. although i think that there could be clear actions in this too, and i emphasize once again. i think that the threat of using ballistic missiles there, which we often see at the glorification of buttons is reduced now, well, almost to zero. if we talk about tactical nuclear weapons, there are certain risks, but they are also reduced

compared to last year . flagrant injustice when you seize a civilian object, mine it with people hostage and so wage war , only the weak do it. unfortunately, russia gives growth, they do that, they mined the zaporizhzhia station , the crimean titan e-e, that is they are threatening thus, there is no meeting on this yet, although of course the reaction will be already harsh, no matter what they say, but for today, if i simply answer you, it is a nuclear weapon and it is not fully controlled there, if the people who were allowed to do this, this is a huge mistake of the world and the usa, which left these weapons to the russians after the collapse of the soviet union, they also had the right to it, just like us ukrainians or cossacks or kazakhs or belarusians , but for some reason they went this way, now

they will be raking out a long time from this all because of that well, you see, you can't give a grenade to a monkey, there were a lot of complaints about germany's position during the nato summit, well, at least you see, general hodge says that the position of the united states of america and germany significantly adjusted the plans of the north atlantic alliance, but today schultz said that russia wants to seize new territories and mentioned not only ukraine but also belarus, and i quote the russian president clearly wants to absorb some neighboring territories. he has such a plan for ukraine. obviously, this is also his plan for belarus and said that this is why it is important to clearly state that we will support ukraine as long as necessary and that we will not agree to an imposed

peace. russia must withdraw its troops and stated something. this is a fairly clear position. apparently, during the entire war, the germans clearly articulated this position, and now no one can ambiguously interpret what germany gives, what germany does not give, or whether all members of the north atlantic alliance are aware that russia must withdraw its troops or undergo complete defeat in the first part, withdrawing the cart is clearly the consensus for today, and withdrawing troops, including from crimea, withdrawing from the territory of ukraine completely is a good sign , because even a year ago, this might not have happened. germany has made enormous changes, well , the leadership of germany. i thank the people of germany and france and other

countries of britain, well, the united states, and of course the closest in our neighbors, they, uh, their peoples support ukraine and the baltic countries. that is, this is a huge contribution to common security, so cashier germany has also shown that it can be a flexible politician, the package of weapons that is currently being allocated. by the way, his minister of defense is very absolutely adequate and a person, that is, a professional person. i see that the position of germany and france is gradually changing. they are already fighting with the united states for the continental leadership, plus with britain for the leadership in europe so this is a good, good ambition

. i think that it is this war, and the result of the victory of ukraine will show. i already said to myself that there will be something to do with russia and how it will all work here later, this is inertia, sometimes the lack of, er, bold leadership, and sometimes it just takes time for everyone who looks at the results of this year's company to draw decisive conclusions at the front, it is also a very important element, no matter how difficult it is for our soldiers at the front, they are doing a great job, they are not just fighting for ukraine now, they are fighting for their children to be able to live freely in ukraine and even freely to move, to work, to communicate, to receive new technologies from these countries, which are now allocated

for weapons, that's why, let's take a look at i think the positions will transform further in our favor, i can't help but ask you about the emotions at the nato summit, because we became witnessed how president zelensky's tweet, in which he criticized the allies, uh, the indifference in the issue of inviting ukraine to nato, and what was the reaction today, the washington post writes that this tweet almost backfired , uh, and almost prompted the united states america again, according to the american publication, to withdraw the invitation for kyiv to become a member of nato it was not fun, summed up the military official, a high-ranking official , give nato familiar with the negotiations, later we know at the summit, the ukrainian president softened his tone and expressed thanks to many leaders of the countries at the same time we saw a public

pick-up in absentia the minister of defense of the great britain would be on wallace's side with volodymyr zelensky when the beehive said that we are not the amazon , but he later apologized to them for these words and that ukraine should have thanked an ally in including great britain , and zelenskyi replied that we will now get up in the morning and say thank you thank you thank you thank you zelensky, everyone is tense and everyone understands that a lot depends on every step, every millimeter of what is said, done, declared

. we need to talk to the americans in this tone, let's go to the ceiling of diplomacy, regardless, i'm not now not commenting specifically on this case, uh, look, there is, uh, there is one rule , the country's diplomacy must produce results , that is, there is a result, certain actions are justified, there is no result, they are not justified then it's all interpretation, that is, the only thing i'll say is the only thing i'll say is that um, in different ways of influencing roles, it is necessary to correctly distribute roles, correctly

choose the right time, correctly understand the limits or opportunities of partners, this is art, this is professional work, art, therefore, in principle when everything ends up on the pages of a snake and somewhere in the information space - it does not really contribute to work, well, this is the world now. that is, it must be taken into account, and of course pay attention to every word of the politician . the country is at war and the country needs weapons, it needs a member, that is, if there is a result of membership in nato, it means that it is justified, there is no result

, it is justified, that's all. i will say that when your compatriots die, many things make you feel a little differently, but the feeling that there are other people living in this war, other countries, and they have their own manifestations, their dimensions, this is also diplomacy , it is diplomacy, not politicians, not leaders of countries . it must work always on the positive side in order to bring closer together in order to create conditions for partnership, compromises and good solutions for your country. that is, that is why, in principle, i think that nothing has happened here as a result of all these discussions. so that it changes something in a coordinated way. i think that everything will be it's okay, you just wanted to say what about the last two years and international diplomacy and international politics, or rather diplomacy, uh , they have changed. well, that's the truth, that is, uh

, the manner of communication and presentation of what is said, how it is said, in the end, which clothes say it the truth has also changed, therefore, in principle , the world is changing, obviously ukraine has also contributed to this . i will say only one thing. when i said distributed roles, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine should play its inherent role of working in all countries and not only engage in nominations there for ambassadors to africa, that is, accordingly, the parliament plays its role in foreign policy, we have civil society, its own, respectively, the presidents , its team, its own, the government is also therefore, when this is correctly distributed, even some nuances are covered up . everything

in one place around the president, so it can increase both the opportunities and the risks, that is why it is necessary to understand traditional diplomacy, which many criticized and criticize, i am not a supporter of traditional diplomacy, i will tell you as a in america, in my opinion, i did much more unconventionally achieving results than what is being discussed today, but what is in diplomacy is to make it public. maybe it will change. i don't know how it will go on. but now the situation shows that you shouldn't neglect the good opportunities that have proven themselves for a long time when you and your partner have good friendly relations between

you and if you look carefully. every word so as not to offend anyone when you say thank you 50 times in public and in a face-to-face conversation you say possibly unpleasant things and not the other way around, well, i profess such a style and i used it, it gave results at the end of our program. let's try to imagine what it will be like for ukraine the next nato summit in washington in april 2024, will ukraine eventually receive a positive signal from the north atlantic alliance that would give us a green light for nato ? well, you know that i don't have an answer. that is we have to strive for this and it is possible to join forces if it would be possible to join everyone's efforts, as at the last stage it was before

freedom and so that our uh, sorry, there politicians do not fight with each other and regarding the elections far away , but if we concentrated efforts well, the tone should really be set by the president of this civil society was connected for coordination, then i think the result can be achieved if the stars align, if there are really successes on the front, if russia is weakened, that is, there are many factors, what will happen all year, we do not know, but this is the path we have to take. we have been following it for more than one, not two years, and this is the right path, and i am sure that we will complete it . why are we talking about the next year, zero? there is still some gap for a couple of months. there is a homework that can be completed in ukraine. that is, we need

to do so or uh , there is a question of a different nature. the window of opportunity has not closed and it is there. i would say, i say that now it is not about the door, but now it is necessary to talk about such a clear barrier or it has been removed. this barrier is completely whether we are members of nato or not, that is, there are no other options. thank you, sir valery for this conversation. it was valery chaly and a diplomat, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-2019. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks and on the youtube platform, for those who are watching us live now, please like it this

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