[000:00:00;00] there was also all the rest, and of the 450 deputies, this is the bolshevik elite, this is all the politburo of the central committee of the communist party of ukraine, headed by ivashk, headed by uh, with uh , kravchuk, the ideological secretary, and so on and so on, and all the regional elites, so to speak, the first, the second third secretaries of oblast committees, city communes, district communes, general directors of large enterprises, that is, to count on the fact that this red part is an absolutely overwhelming majority can support such a document, well , at first glance, it was completely naive, but all the events because we cannot events in ukraine

er, analyze and today and consider, so to speak, disrupted from what was happening in the soviet union, where such similar ones can be restored under other names , such documents have already appeared on such documents , three states, hmm, three republics of the baltic states, estonia, latvia and lithuania, even the russian federation itself on led by yeltsin a month earlier on june 12, 12, adopted its declaration on the state sovereignty of the russian federation. that is, we already had those facts and it pushed us and in the end it was for us in our discussions and an attempt to persuade to enlist the support of our colleagues from that left bloc because there were those with whom well, they did not simply not engage in arguments in conversations in discussions because it was hopeless

, but there were normal, adequate people with whom you could argue and so on and so on even such an argument well, well, well, you believe in some kind of communist idea, and so on. well, why can't we be independent in the west? there are national communist parties that exist and function normally. they protect their state. they don't want to be subordinated to someone else, moscow doesn't want them, they were under the control of moscow and so on, in a word, what andriy mentioned was that the soviet union was collapsing before our eyes - this was all clear even at the beginning of july, and it was difficult, what was the fourth of july, he was elected

uh, he is the head of the council. and sometime right after that, he went to this congress, i don't know the 22nd or what, he was there with a large group of uh , communist deputies, and that's all the elite, it was the bolsheviks for this congress and here in ukraine the miner's strikes and so on began to rage and so on. and we rebelled that in ukraine such problems are economic and political and so on , and they went to some congress, that is, they put the party of some party higher than the parliament, in which they are officially the only one, it is difficult to hear what is being done here in

to ukraine, on july 10, 10, he sends a telegram to the address of the chairman of the deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada about the fact that in connection with these events and the decision to recall the delegation of those communists from moscow, we went to the congress and he announces his resignation and here it is 10 eh 10 july ihora filichukhnovsky as the chairman of the people's council of the republic of moldova at exactly 21:30 in the evening, he calls us all to the session hall to discuss the situation that has arisen unexpectedly for us, how to behave tomorrow, what problems will be tomorrow.

until midnight on july 10, they argued and discussed, some claimed that if ivashka's statement was put up for discussion , the room should join in criticizing the communists and so on. it can't be, we have to put the issue of the declaration on state sovereignty on the agenda, and it was done, and before we come to the agreed text of the declaration, i have to say this so that there is enough time for the session hall with draft drafts er, several deputies came with drafts of this text, and prepared for

it most seriously. well, my brother mykhailo kosiv, who registered his project on july 8, 1990, and so he called it the declaration of state sovereignty in order legislative initiative, i submit for consideration at the first session of the verkhovna rada of the ukrainian ssr the draft of the declaration on the state sovereignty of the ukrainian ussr and a lot of what mykhailo put into his understanding of how this uh-uh should sound the actual word of the declaration well , i just know that a very large contribution was uh, volodymyr was cleaned there by a group of very serious people, only for a very short time, i wanted to emphasize

that two points, literally, first, what , that on july 16 of the following year, exactly what day was celebrated, the first day of independence and in a very many countries that announced their resolutions in the same year, this day is still the day of independence, or on this day they regained those days of independence that they celebrated before the soviet occupation. look for the velotian countries. well, i want to say that the text of the declaration itself is very well written . image of the constitution, we could not assemble the constitution for several years later , all this is because when we adopted the text of the declaration , we adopted the resolution of the verkhovna rada that july 16 is defined as a public holiday the independence day of ukraine and we officially celebrated this holiday for one year, but then a year later, in the 91st year, when we adopted

the declaration , he wrote the act of restoration, the act of the proclamation of ukrainian independence , but it did not come, of course, when that happened er, you are looking at the 30-three years of this first historic non-interference document, which er-e already initiated, recorded, so to speak , the moment of the declaration of independence , sovereignty, independence of the ukrainian state , and today and yesterday, i constantly somehow it seems that knowing the history of ukraine, our relations with muscovy are more than three centuries of enslavement, so to speak, of muscovy's war with ukraine and 33 years

of independence and 10 years in fact, almost 10 years within the limits of our independence, we are again waging war, but i hope that the last one is already a war so to speak with muscovy of ukraine , because in the future i am convinced that muscovy is a holiday. what will it be called there, what will be left of it after our victory? we have seen these shots from the hall of the verkhovna rada where shchelenin is standing and he is no longer there independence square is now there and no one remembers that it was the square of the october revolution but still symbols

of the soviet era remains, and we will actually now talk about decommunization, is it enough to remove the coat of arms of the soviet union and stick the coat of arms of ukraine, a trident, on the shield of the mother's family ? if you found the time to come for us and share your memories, yaroslav kenjer, a public figure, a member of the dissident movement and a people's deputy of six convocations, was with us and with them we remembered the 30th anniversary of the declaration of the declaration on the state sovereignty of ukraine back in soviet times and then we will talk about decommunization, stay with us , there are 10% discounts on nuda-express in podorozhnyk pharmacies, you and oschad are tired of heavy agricultural saws, then the compact and powerful strong saw from

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remove the coat of arms of the soviet union from the shield of the mother's family and hang the trident there, money was found for it, and of course there were many opinions of those who are for and those who are against, people who are against say that communism is necessary, but it is not in this form, because it is a kind of half-hearted decommunization, the monument is also soviet soviet and the soviet symbol and attaching a ukrainian trident to it will not make it. well, actually speaking about the fact that such money, although it would be possible, it should look like this. and they say that such money, $700,000 , could be spent on something other i wonder how much money would be spent on the dismantling of this mother's family and how much metal would be spent on some specific necessary things, i calculated everything interestingly mathematics with andrii sachko, please, it weighs a lot from open

sources 450 t mostly consists of stainless steel 450 t stainless steel, if you just give it stupidly for scrap metal, i apologize for the word stupid, but it seems to me that the epithet is good in relation to this sculpture, and for example , if you give it for uah 50 per kilogram, then we get uah 22.5 million in total, that is, and more if you just hand it over for scrap metal, you can get uah 22.5 million. instead, we will spend as much as uah 28 million just to dismantle the coat of arms from the shield and weld a trident there. i do not know is it possible to make a bridge with it, or just make a million spoons and forks, as i once suggested to fantasists? i remember les podervyanskyi. it seems like it was a good

idea too, that is, there is something to talk about here. well, are these symbols important or can we actually do it like that? talk about it all . i'll be honest. is called part of its culture, well, my opinion would be very simple. i think that in this way we simply increase the threats to our own national identity because this sculpture is made in the tradition of socialist realism . so, for example, i

have some questions about this socialism itself i can honestly say that i can't stand this soviet socialist realism because of it , you know, because of the lack of personality of people, because , well, because these are certain mannequins only of huge sizes. it's like me, but what vadim thinks, how is the communistization of ukraine going to him, he should ask, actually, do you like the idea of ​​simply removing the soviet coat of arms from the shield and attaching a trident to it, and is this 100% decommunization , documentation, that is, well, i understand that it is actually a very expensive story of a mother, but it would be better if just stop by the soviet herpes, if you sculpt tourism, it’s like lenin in a vyshyvanka . does it have to be a painted cossack, that is, it would be better to just dismantle the herpe itself

, maybe wait until the end of the war to dismantle the sculpture itself, but by the way, mr. volodymyr lenin vyshyvants or or this woman with a trident. how is it? well, what is the danger here? it seems to me that this directly erodes the ukrainian identity, which we still have problems with. i think that this is just a change of concepts. some people want to save some of this statue. this monument, by simply repainting the soviet soldier, call it a ukrainian shirt . in the lviv region, where just yesterday they also dismantled a rather large 1 over which a large trident was hung. that is, they did it a very long

time ago, many years ago, and in the end, this big lonely one was dismantled in the city of sambori , so i think that it will be the same here. similarly, this monument does not carry no ukrainian content, yes, it may be the largest in ukraine, if not the largest, but this is not a reason to cling to it, it is something that was put there, as far as i remember, a little more than 10 years before the restoration of independence, it is our symbol in ukraine people for whom this family is a mother, it is somehow there are some memories from youth from childhood from youth, but there is life. god is the driver above kyiv asks, if tong- architectural part of their life is part of their memories, but there is also the ministry of culture of ukraine, which produces a certain e-e cultural the politics of ukraine, why is it clinging to this family, mother? because in reality, until now, the issue of monuments to the path of world war ii is not regulated in any way, even

in this law. on decolonization, it is written in such a way that these monuments are, in principle, possible and not to touch and not particularly need to touch, and this is now the main main array of all soviet symbols of soviet objects that were violated on the territory of ukraine. that is, we want to uh, well, there is some opinion, for sure part of the society, that all these soviet soldiers do not look like a mother, and they are all ukrainians, ukrainian women as we are told that this is a soviet soldier, this is not alyosha, this is oleksa, this is a national match , but the motherland, but ukrainization here is just here, the pseudo-ukrainization of these monuments will only delay the process of complete decommunization, maybe for another 5-10-20 years but all the same, they won’t just repaint their ukrainians right now, well, it’s just a matter of dragging them out even longer with decommunization

, and maybe you didn’t want that, you can also talk about your small homeland. at the kyivska metro station, which is still not very good, a lot of dissatisfied users on facebook write their uh , insulted comments, they say, why do all this, you can spend money on something else, and here, too, you can say that it is approximately taka the situation itself well, i wouldn’t compare here, in fact, it’s not such a big expense, first of all, secondly, it’s a temporary replacement of these letters . that is, as far as i know, the kharkiv metro has fornicated that they ordered the same letters that were, and this is only a temporary solution. therefore everything will be fine and it's not as big an expense as there. someone thinks that means we have, i'm sorry, on drums, bomb shelters, there is money for benches, but not for national ones. well, this is a dubious story. that is, we have now if we

do it now we will do it now then when especially in fact, if you don’t engage in money laundering on some tenders, that’s all. decommunization costs not so much money. by the way, since it’s a kyiv name, that is, kyiv station , and that ’s what they want. i flashed the so-called "izhe" from 1988 , which was developed by them in moscow and is highly criticized, especially in kyiv. i know that the font artist bohdan dal, who is currently designing kyiv fonts for us new of stations, by the way, he already sketched twitter and literally sat in them for an hour, the lights were turned off, and he sketched what font he could suggest if we can show it, we can even show it here for a second. well , i know that there is such an opinion. well, you see this is what they did temporarily, and many of them, of course, are dissatisfied

and say it was better. well, the idea is simply that this thing is like that. that is, it is also part of the russian world and the russian myth that they are like something. involved - involved in kyiv russia so it is not necessary to build a new identity on these imperial fonts, but instead there are fonts that refer directly to, firstly, the chronicle tradition of that time, and secondly, they also have the ukrainian barracks tradition, which also exists, how rich it is, and there is no point in taking this pseudo the font was invented in 1988 precisely for these russian historical mythologies, we have little time for the rest of such a pleasant thing in lviv, in the lviv region, more precisely , another soviet monument was dismantled and it will be sent to the territory to the territory of the terrorist actually, what kind of monument

is this? here it is, tell mr. vadim more about it. well, in fact , it's one of the usual stamped monuments in the soviet soldier, even alyosha , that is, there were such and such similar objects even in the territory of lviv region before the beginning there were 300 or so sherlock of large-scale invasions. now , as far as i remember, there are already a little over a hundred left, and these are the objects. they are plus or minus all the same, the same design. from the conditional transcarpathia to the luhansk region, in fact, probably even more than the lenin monuments, they were once erected in almost every village . these are the typical monuments in the soviet soldier, and unfortunately, so far, the dismantling of such objects is practiced only in some western regions, not even in all western ones well, we need to move on in a good way, but little by little ukraine is being cleaned of all this rubbish . thank you, mr. vadim, for the conversation. vadim poznyakov , co-founder of the decommunization of ukraine project

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