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its main international idea? does it want to be the strongest or does it want to be nobody? no offense, does he want to continue to develop the economy and then think about war , about his military capabilities , what else does he want? what is his goal or what is his goal? it seems that he is being singled out a little in view of his economic weight, in view of the current military potential. it seems to me that his

interests are not taken into account from above. his ambitions are also blurred and even to unite with taiwan in a military way. not taking into account the interests and in general the desire of the residents of taiwan , that is, china does not like what the current world system with the western the values ​​of the country are great with such a great historical civilization and here it is indicated how to do it and china is trying to remake the current system. let's say that the chinese are a great civilization and it has its own characteristics and there is nothing to interfere in its internal

affairs, that is, russia also believes that it is not fully evaluated interests, but we have a difference because this is the weight of china and its ambitions. they have another such serious confirmation in the form of a strong economy that makes up almost 20% of the world gdp in the form of 1.5 billion people. actually , as of today china can help the world a lot and harm the world, unlike russia , in fact, these are the initial claims of china, that is , the models of western education do not suit it now, and with the help of these models, china managed to become such a powerful state. well, now it would like so that those rules that

don't suit him well, that they should be reformatted, revised ms. natalya, look, but influence on china is actually impossible when you talk about human rights, rights of autonomy, family , gursky autonomous district, hong kong, tibet , taiwan well, so to speak, it is possible, taiwan it will be possible, it will not be, well, chinese, the people's republic of china, but all this shows that today he simply does not care that 100 bidens can come and 28 sumacs in china to say that it is not necessary to insult the uyghurs , it is not necessary to return tibet to the tibetans it's worth it, if not to rape hong kong, which is used to living in english, let's say so, and the chinese absolutely don't care about all this . well, look, really, western countries reacted very weakly to the events that took place in

hong kong, well, accordingly, china and that is, those left sanctions that were introduced against which influenced, for example, well, that is, the top from hong kong and pa- and some party leaders , well, actually, i say that it influenced us to play an important role, but the influence over hong kong is also a large financial city. a certain opportunity to show china to its residents and the residents of hong kong that everything and such is a certain rule and when the hong kongers are used to living in a preferential way, well, that is, it has already ended , we have the consequences of the fact that the western world allowed everyone to develop and such states as china, hoping that the the benefits of western civilization and in the end this economic

upswing will help china rethink its own essence and become more democratic. and by the way, at one time hong kong as a financial center hoped that it would become an example for this mainland china and china will take an example from him to reformat it into its own system by working hard, but this did not happen, we see that such a big and powerful china swallowed hong kong and we see how it is now trying to cooperate with developing countries, the so -called global rooster, encouraging these authoritarian regimes or not-so-democratic regimes by fiends and in this way spread their model of this not for a price, how chinese, how communist, but china's own

vision for light creation is what china wants to promote in the world, we are spreading the problem among these countries, and western countries have understood from the example of russia that their hope is for business to have good economic relations there, trade with autocrats , it will help them to re-learn and reformat because it will suffer a fairy tale and we see how now each of the western countries, individually or collectively within their organizations such as the european union , is starting to revise their approaches and their strategy towards china. but it turned out to be not so easy because each of these countries is very strong economically connected with china, and china, which used to be a factory of all goods in the world , now controls many strategic industries, and therefore when western leaders talk about how

to punish them or how to build relations, they all clearly understand that they should distance themselves from china. called everywhere it is impossible and therefore, for now they are starting to talk about risk reduction, that is, they are starting to distinguish such strategic sectors , first of all, this is the technological sector , but everyone understands, and in particular the minister of finance in the united states, who visited china, she herself admits that it will be very difficult and impossible to separate economies that have grown so closely for several decades, and if we actively influence china , do not put pressure on it, that is, do not hurt it. nothing scares ms. natalya, look at the prospects of china, because there are not so many people, and first of all, they are financiers, economists, they say that

the economy there is not perfect. there are a lot of problems. there is no such economic growth as the americans are now. the ministers of finance that you just mentioned they said that we will still fight with eh at the technological level we will not give more scientific and technological progress to china, er, we will not invest in its development, that is, in your opinion, china is confident, objectively, it can be confident in itself well, i can name some military industries yes, okay, they are really developing there but they have very few strategic missiles, they are mainly tactical. they only have two

and then one of them. ukrainian aircraft carriers of the americans . there are more than 12 of them, that is, when china and our ukrainian experts are blowing up the european ones. oh, he is so big. i am sitting at my place. i am not convinced that he is such a power that everyone is scared now, and what do you think he will really continue to develop like this with six dashes of 10% gdp addition every year, or there might be some troubles that will not lead to him becoming the second eh the second potential in the world after the united states. well, actually, now there is less talk about china in the near future, that is, look at something during the pandemic, there was talk of china already being able to overtake the american economy in the 28th year, but as of today

day of prospects in such a perspective, they moved away, that is, experts talk about the 35th year, experts say this at the level of what they assume. but really, in reality , there are many problems in china, and last year china's growth was at a level below 5%, well, for this year they in their program, because they constantly set the level of gdp to which they strive, they wrote 5% in their annual program. so far they do not reach this level because there are really many problems in the chinese economy , they are related to the fact that china cannot be and what it can. this form of economy that gave it growth is primarily due to the fact that that the industry is not developing as it would like because there is a crisis in the world and those markets on which china was first of all directed this american european markets markets the country

but today they are not so identical and do not occupy as much chinese goods as they would like, that is , already this month and quarter after quarter, because it is shown that china's exports have decreased significantly from each country, for example, the united states by 25%. from asanta, european ones, well, at the level of five percent, a little less, well, in general, this is about large sums, and china used to be exclusively an export-oriented economy , to date, china is trying to remake its economy so that the export market works for it, that is understanding that there will be problems with exports to adjust to the domestic market, but not everything is so simple with the domestic market either, and indicators show that china is unable to develop it, this is due to the pandemic and the fact that the economy has slowed down and due to the fact that at one time china very seriously inflated the investment real estate market, but during

the pandemic and after it this market gave a very big crack well, just in general, this strategy turned out to be not very correct and in the end, now the real estate market has very serious problems despite the fact that the country is trying to pour its funds there, i.e. behind it, and it is the pressure that is still causing the united states and the situation that european countries are gradually revising their economic policies , primarily in relation to china, and now many companies are trying to diversify their risks, that is, you are in ukraine and not among the american countries , many companies are looking towards southeast asia, in particular the united malaysia, for example, india is also becoming a place where

they are moving their production plus of course that china, first of all, is now in quite close relations with russia, and this causes political political problems in relations with the west, and it makes it unattractive, plus the internal politics of china to date with well, you are sitting trying to conduct politics with aimed at national security, but this policy is related to pressure on and on the technological sector of our own and we remember with you the stories about how albaba was affected and a number of companies. for example, consulting companies and auditing companies of the united states have already been audited, and this is a very wary western business, because china is

to some extent so unclear and not opaque in terms of business, and this is very seriously discouraging , how else, for example, can they consider your activities through the prism of national security and use some methods against you that are illegal and not marketable, and therefore i think that something should even be assessed as to how the situation will develop further, and i would also like to add that china has faced a demographic crisis in the country as well they understand that this one-child policy, which has been going on for a long time, to this day, it comes out of the fact that china is divided with the aging of the population, and it is already a problem , ms. natalya .

thank you very much, as an illustration to ms. natalie, i will say that we really no one knows the real state of affairs in the people's republic of china. and why? economy, and what struck me is that, allegedly, repeat, the average salary of a chinese is much higher than the average salary of a ukrainian, i was interested to see the purchasing power, absolute numbers, and so on, but it is significantly higher than what the chinese themselves write, but for some reason, i was a little surprised by the number of cars on a thousand people in ukraine are twice as many as in china , that is, either ukrainians really like to buy cars or

the chinese don't like it very much because china supposedly has more money, but they buy half as many cars, and somewhere in this the formula is some pretty substantial lie, otherwise it is impossible to explain it now we will have advertisement after advertisement we are from the far east to the north there in the area of ​​sweden, finland, there are two countries , one of which is already a member of nato and the other is hoping to join this organization , now the advertisement has turned its back flamides the gel quickly reduces inflammation and cures pain from back and joint pain flamidez pain

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to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10, so as i promised we will fly to scandinavia now anna lena lauren finnish journalistic writer of swedish origin with whom you can talk about sweden and finland , a very useful person for journalists from ukraine, for example, because at once about this and about that hello anna lena thank you for finding it for nas vremya good afternoon sasha, you are very glad to be with you again sotnitsy, here you look well, this is quite a strange thing and yes, they say that sweden has agreed to many requests of turkey from the new old turkish president and everything seems to be fine, but i sit and think well, i don't believe it, i don't believe it

that the swedes arrest some turks, but positional or non-positional turks are not arrested like efins. i don't believe that you can help so much. well, because they say so in ukraine. well, at least that's how i hear that sweden will join nato the european union will invite turkey, the european union will not invite turkey, for sure, and sweden can't alone, but they say individually. they can say for themselves . well, now turkey has joined the european union and we are waiting for you all here. there is something here after all. what did you agree on then? what kind of conversation was there? what do you think and what did sweden and turkey agree on? well, that's what i think and this. how do you understand it? it's pure speculation

, because there's business there, but it seems to me that it's obvious that erdugan is early. or he will say he will definitely agree that indeed sweden will join nato now, he is just playing time because he sees that sweden is this why is it that sweden is very necessary and that is why he constantly pulls at first he told you that in the unlikely event that it is necessary to do this it's against terrorism, and then you see, i can. he said that everything is now in favor of the parliament and the whole of sweden, which was a little strange for me, but not what the people of sweden are. they were able to understand that irdugan is not his mother, that it is natural that if he says so, he will still be the same, that he will not be, he will still want it

, and he said that yes, i am behind it, of course, the parliament is now on its way out until october, and of course the parliament wants it, it can be done at any time. the moment is gathering, if i am an enemy, it boils down to this, but he still wants something. as it seems to me, this is speculation , he wants exactly the promise of the united states that turkey will receive 16 airplanes there, and because america has not promised it so far that turkey can buy m-16 and turkey is very much it is necessary to come up with all the different roles of reasons and this is how they correctly said where is nato and where is it, it is completely not an organization, and sweden cannot in any way join the european union, it is completely a time for the organization , and sweden is completely there, only one member, and can

do nothing, so i i think that edgan wants something else. now the whole poles want a member, all for this , and i think that even this will be a long topic. maybe in a day. there is a pause these long periods of indeterminacy do not affect the public opinion of the swedes, the swedes continue not their own. what does he want in nato for now? yes, and there, of course, the main thing is that it is sincere , because slender has already become a member of nato and it will already shine for shvetsit . strange what? and most importantly, the main neighbors are the neangels, who are very close to sweden, and poetically, in a historical sense, eh, finland, you are nato, and what i appreciate is that it was just a very strange

solution. and uh, that's why i think that until now yes, more than my own, but i see without social media, and i also heard that there are so-called self-organized organizations - vets who are against the financier, they now have more members . they will get something, but of course, the fact is that this is such a long, complicated process, and it was a perfect life. nato is simply that they have already done it chuck already nato now no one wants to go back , so i think that this

process is prophesied what is the mood of finland because when russia's war against ukraine started, it was clear that the finns began to think, oh , we need to do something, we need to do something with security, with defense, then financial, let's join nato and so on and so on, now finland is a member nato, and the tension has dropped in the newspapers, people have calmed down, they are now sitting. well, that's all. we in nato, we understand for sure that the russians will not attack us , there is no point in worrying about it anymore , they say, they shout, they are afraid, and so on. well, it doesn't matter . how will this be explained? есть i would say that there is some kind of film dissatisfaction what we are now she is exactly because

after russia attacked ukraine eh exactly there was excitement well at the same time how long is the final we have our history with russia the soviet union eh this i do not care всё время уфильно, this would be the main thing that this is possible eh and that's why i told you that the reaction in the films was satisfactory, it was not very emotional, well, it was partial emotionally, but it was more rational, that it was cold. борала теперь видом what to do, what russia did with ukraine, it became too dangerous, let's go to nato, now we are nato, and yes, and of course people . what kind of people were good people? all the time, all our curtains, we all the time knew that there could be such a thing, i don’t think that there was

such a big monument directly to pavlyk, even further down the house, as russia attacked ukraine , but there was a concept that everything will now change politics and it will be done scientifically, quickly thank you very much, anna lena lauren film i will tell doretsky writer of swedish origin was with us and now she is not in omelnik will be with you pass her word good afternoon thank you for your work further news editorial works we inform about the most important things in this issue too in particular, about what assistance serbia will provide to ukraine and because of the shelling by the russians of the zaporizhzhia region, there are details of the victims of the same in zaporizhzhia, the occupiers shelled