[000:00:00;00] i think that this story is interesting for europeans right now, that is, in principle, everyone perfectly understands that the sanctions will most likely not be lifted . well, because it is blackmail, which means to be blackmailed . it obviously means to continue making concessions , permanent concessions to putin, because he will constantly invent new new reasons for this, no one will most likely go here , of course, the schedules can change and it is more difficult to predict, let's say, decisions that can be made by politicians in certain circumstances , but as of now, most likely this this will not happen. so, in essence, putin can only refuse the agreement altogether or agree to the extension of this agreement under those conditions

. there are no other options . accordingly, turkish warships will be accompanied by these actual turkish grain carriers. so what is the problem ? well, they left and left, that is, they drove themselves into a dead end with their whims . let's touch on the topic of what japan and nato has signed a new program of cooperation with china, and he is angry and even threatens igor. how close is the cooperation prescribed there? and what can it lead to , what prospects do you know? once at the nato summit, japan is getting closer to nato, and i think that the chinese

threat largely determines the reasons why this is happening, and japan's activity and decision, including, in fact, to return there to the format of the army, and in general, the weapons, the new weapons, everything else, that is, it indicates that of course, the situation in those countries is getting quite serious and, accordingly , japan needs allies, japan needs close cooperation with it, the most powerful military-political alliance in the world, this is here by the way, this is biden’s style of government , that is, it is obvious that bilateral us-japanese relations are not enough for him. it is important that allies join in all this. he, you, practically

makes all his foreign political decisions. it is because of the consultation by the allies, because of the active involvement of the allies in the solution of this or that issue. japan is not an exception here , participated in our airwaves. now we will have a short break. after that , vitaly portnikov, as always, will comment on the most important events of the week. thank you. you need to cut the nail and it is easy to apply it twice a day it penetrates deeply destroys stops the reproduction of the fungus brightens the color of the nail nailer two in one it is proven effective visible result easy to use pain can become an obstacle codes

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what happened to the reconciled and the wagners, what are their plans and why did they receive billions of orders again, and for their company in of russian enterprises, we will also talk about the topic of whether putin will go to the brics summit, because he is a pariah there, because he should be arrested there, in fact, according to international law , because an arrest warrant was issued for him the international criminal court, but let's start, of course, with the nato summit in vilnius p vitaliy, as you and i have constantly discussed, so what are you waiting for? i know that you were not fascinated by the result, so you were probably not disappointed with the result. one way or another, it cannot end with the invitation of ukraine to the euro alliance. well, that's what we remember

. it's our conclusion that it can't be like that, and this is not the real result of what we, uh, got as a result of this whole story. we received the so-called aid guarantees and we said that maybe in the future we will be able to really talk about the fact that ukraine will be able to become a member of nato, but most likely this can only happen after some more serious period of time what do we need to fight for, those for this for the invitation of ukraine to nato maybe at the washington summit there would be an invitation and that there would be security guarantees i don't really understand what was expected from vilsko right here frankly

speaking in ukrainian political circles and among of our fellow citizens, well, there is a shield formula that we hear all the time from the united states that a country that is in a state of war cannot be a member of nato, well, this is their position, they are afraid of a nuclear war with the russian federation . we cannot force them not to be afraid, we can only convince them that our accession to nato in one way or another cannot lead to a nuclear war that can change in a year so globally do you believe that it will change on the front for example that they will change their position they give us an invitation this position i think they they can regarding the entry, the invitation is not yet an entry, but at that time they could have given the invitation now, obviously they could, and i am not saying that they could not. i just think that it was not considered because there is no unity among the allies, as they say that maybe in a year we will be able to achieve such unity something may change on the front, something may change in politics, a more flexible formula may appear, which we are already talking about. on the first

day, the formula is a guarantee of security for this territory on which there are no military actions, this territory may look different before the washington summit than today, we will talk now about the events that will take place in april next year, we need to wait for many events - the first is the end of the ukrainian mood. no one knows how it will end , what will be its military and political consequences ; the third is to see what the russian federation will do after the winter, to what extent it will have enough strength for any further actions, we are always talking about our offensive, the russians are preparing for what. only for defense, or are they also ready to attack if it will turn out that they have completely exhausted their resources, that they can only deal with the defense of the occupied territories that they have already entered from the 14th to the 22nd year, this is one story, if

it turns out that they are capable of active offensive actions before the occupation of new ukrainian regions, that is another story the leaders of the nato countries to come out at the april garden, what do we need, ideally , we need russia to exhaust its resources , we need as little of the territory of ukraine as possible to be in the war, we need the member countries there not to think that providing guarantees of the security of part of our territory will be a factor for a nuclear war. we don't need all this. and then this can become some kind of real, real result. the way our president volodymyr zelenskyi reacted to everything that is happening around him , mostly even before the summit itself, because he i went there already with a certain disappointment and accusations, was it too emotional for you as part of diplomacy, or did the president not adjust for some reason to the fact that his emotions are somewhat perhaps it is necessary to leave them,

were they appropriate? i think that there was a first a myth, a certain myth, he no longer exists, i don’t know. well, he never existed for me at all, but he existed in society. now we see that he is not there, i don’t know how much he exists now. such a serious influence on the leadership of western countries that he can change their position with his tweets and his speech and that he can influence western leaders through his authority among their voters i believe that to some extent these were illusions that were created here by our own ideas about what is happening and which have never been there, that is, there was an obvious empathy for ukraine, which was primarily related to what russia did with aggression

, with atrocities, with murders, rape of people , with all these, well, how to say absolutely wild things that we what these witnesses were like, and this creates such empathy. western society lives with empathy for other people's goals much more than post-soviet society. i think that ukrainians do not understand this because they themselves for 10 years, we remained completely indifferent to the will of others. well, i have to say it honestly, we were never bothered by the war there in the former glory of the balkans, people say they don't bother us anymore, well, now you say that we don't help you much, and that's right. we also try to influence the our government and people in the section who support us. but you, for ten years, i have been paying attention to what is happening to us. you know what is happening there now. well, how are we sitting in bomb shelters, which ukrainians do not care, not even because they themselves

are in such a state, because that they are up to they go to vinnytsia for intervals. and after the war, they are young to trade. that is why we cannot believe that someone cares about someone else’s life , because we now live in an indifferent society. and that is why we are also looking for president zelensky. why are there employees? they are ordinary average ukrainians, and that is why they are looking for someone else. answers to a completely simple question, they probably support it because we have such a cool president who speaks so well, and it's simple if you see listen, well, imagine that you see an unhappy family to which someone comes gromyla also beats this family, do you sympathize with this family when you see that the father of this family comes to you there and complains, you sympathize with him, but it is not because he is such a wonderful person, a candidate of sciences and the author of e-e texts from ancient philosophy, no, he is just the father of a family that is killed, raped and humiliated, you sympathize with him precisely because he is a victim and not because he talks nicely about his

problems well, the president deserves respect, of course, and i am sure that he is respected by western leaders, but this does not mean that they ready uh to make some compromises, for example, regarding reforms, if we are talking about eurovision, in world politics it is customary to respect colleagues, but they definitely do not influence the decision-making , which from your point of view concerns your national security , the president himself can also respect someone, but he is not going to go to make concessions when it comes to the national interests of ukraine, it is logical to believe that it is possible to change the very course of politics with some text on social networks, this means not understanding what politics is. and by the way, about this well, today the president of lithuania said absolutely clearly that there was such a situation when in general this phrase about the invitation of ukraine could fall out of the final document

and it was a direct result of this story. no, it was not emotions, it was a calculation, and we always see such quite emotional and somehow starts his acting, first of all, you can't take that away, despite the fact that he is the president, when he plays a role, he calculates how the audience will perceive the situation when he falls on the stage, it will be in the theater to me they always said that there are actors who live, we are the ones who play, but as historians, bad actors live in this, right, but the president is already obvious if he became the president, well, one . so it was a calculation, we got to this place on the plane, they wrote this essay who had this write to the president , he is already writing his tweets , where do you mean?

the president of russia dmitry medvedev says he got drunk and read and wrote a terrible tweet about the fact that he is all nuclear weapons , former president medvedev reads his education in telegram, like you and i, after they publish this, the press service of another president putin writes. well, but in in any case, we are talking about the fact that it was a political miscalculation, and i think that from this we simply need to draw conclusions for the future , we need to understand the reasons for the support of ukraine by the western world in the war with russia, that these the reasons are precisely related to empathy, it is necessary to understand that thanks to our army there are no such crimes now and the news was in the first place of the war, fortunately in those territories, the rest of some territory we will face the same testimonies of fear that were, say , in buchach, in izyum, we are getting a new e

- a strong outburst of support for this , you don’t even need to speak in any parliament, but simply in this situation, you know, i would like it to be better, of course. well, this is what we are talking about. the more the level of empathy, if you drop an atomic bomb on the kyiv sea and kyiv will die, then i want to convince you that we will never receive such a level of support the day after the death of kyiv , but honestly, i would like the level there was no support and for kyiv to stand and to achieve such a level of support without victims is impossible. well, luckily here, happiness is simply gone. i hope that we will not witness such fears. well, it is possible. if this support is legally enshrined somewhere, it is true that support

can be legally enshrined at the level assistance of such a certain level of military equipment from above about the support that goes through the legal level, ethically, the support becomes greater, then the politicians give more weapons . it depends. when german politicians see that their voters support ukraine and support the provision of weapons, they raise the bar in the provision of weapons when they see that their voters believed that we should not participate in any military conflicts, that we should not provide weapons to belligerent countries, and this was perceived by the majority of the german population, then they provided helmets their electorate it's clear the electorate itself by the way here's the story with ben's voice that we were talking about it's just a story about influencing the electorate help us convince our electorate and by the way they agree that there was an emotional response it wasn't spelled out obviously the president our answered well, i think what should we do ? well, let's do it. i don't remember saying thank you verbatim every morning. well , maybe i think that there were emotionally involved. they agree, but

this is the same answer outside the documents. public speeches well, i think that there was a lack of understanding. i say it again, i think that oles said absolutely clear things. you should address our citizens not with complaints , but with gratitude, because our citizens are already beginning to understand little by little why we are all so involved, nothing of the sort it does not happen from their point of view that we should be involved, well, now, less about or less empathy, of course, yes, thank you, stimulate them so that they want to help you facilitate our task as politicians, because when you appeal to us with complaints, and we them we say to our fellow workers, let us help them even more. then our compatriots say, why is it mine, but look at what is happening in sudan, why are we there, where we help , we have more responsibility there - it is our former colony, so the language says that there is in

africa, and so on so ask each country, because we always have one counter-argument, which is often used by politicians, well, ukraine is fighting not only for itself, but for the whole of europe and the democratic world , the arguments are excellent, it actually disorients everyone, because such a question arises if ukraine is fighting for all of europe and for the entire democratic world, this means that if the russians, russian troops pass to the territory of, say, zakarpattia oblast , then they will go to poland, i don't know, to romania, to the baltic countries. the russian army really wants to go to the baltic countries, why should they go to uzhhorod, the baltic countries have a direct border with the countries of the union of russia and belarus, if russia wants to attack poland and there is absolutely no need reach lviv. she can do it from kaliningrad

, but she can cut through the isthmus of sovaltsk. and it is absolutely calm. isolate the baltic countries from the rest of the european union . cut off the territory that connects lithuania and poland . this is a famous story. that is, there is no such opinion in the west that putin is going to attack them , the question is not about the west, the question is about us. if we believe that russia can absolutely calmly venture into a conflict with nato and the only thing it is held back by the ukrainian territory, it is not clear why because, as he repeats, russia has borders with countries on maintenance, then why do we so want to join nato and are offended that we are not accepted there if it turns out there is no security there if all if all security is connected with ukraine then this nato should enter ukraine then, and not ukraine in us. well, well, that is, we ourselves are contradicting our own logic, because

it is obvious what nato is. nato is not just a defense union, it is a nuclear umbrella of the united states of america and, by the way, in great france britain also clearly has enough potential to fight russia, in principle, in russia, of course, but they have something to protect themselves and destroy the european territory of russia , you understand. if we do not need a nuclear umbrella, we believe that it is ineffective, and only the ukrainian army is effective with her western weapons well , give us this beautiful model for sure and beautifully and fight as much as you can fit in, we will give you weapons if we understand that the end of the war can only happen when russia is to be afraid to attack us because it is not us, not the nuclear bloc, let's stop saying that we are protecting the civilized world from russia , we are not protecting anyone but ourselves, the western

world is helping us out of a sense of justice , it is fair that if the russian army really could then carry out blitzkrieg ukraine has become such a territory of russian influence as belarus, nothing would have changed for the western world from the word zero , the economic potential of russia would not have greatly increased the territories on which it is located in any case, they are reached by nato nuclear missiles and so on and so on. the west somehow existed next to the soviet union after the second world war, and moreover, the sphere of influence of the soviet union then consisted not only in the fact that there were borders of ukraine and belarus - it was the border of the soviet union, and there was also a sphere of influence with e.e. czechoslovakia, hungary, east germany. i apologize to romania, bulgaria, latvia, lithuania, estonia, and there is nothing of this now, that somehow they gave birth because security is not in this, not in

the number of troops that are on a certain the territory is primarily nuclear in the policy of nuclear deterrence, so the sooner we stop telling ourselves and the west this fairy tale, the better it will be for us, we are defenseless until the moment we become part of nato, here is one of my colleagues who wrote this answer on b na olis to define non-amazon we are fields and you are not a training ground, of course we are a training ground, we are a training ground for testing russian weapons, we are a training ground for testing iranian weapons , russia has turned us into a real training ground and until the moment we will not be provided with real security guarantees, we can remain such a training ground for long, dark, dark years in the history of the ukrainian state. russia will try different methods to destroy this state, it will destroy the infrastructure - is it a training ground ? is it possible to destroy the opportunity for

the population to live in the territory due to shelling of this infrastructure when you you destroy power plants when you organize a man-made disaster, there was one winter, now there will be another attempt, how many winters will it take for this area to eventually cease to be capable of life polygon polygon of course as far as it is possible to destroy the air defense system with the help of cheap drones good topic beautiful polygon polygon let us stop being a polygon with the help of amazon western of course and by do- with the help of joining nato that is why i think that all these conversations about what we all protect and we all need to do something. in response , they are from our eternal misunderstanding of how the world around us is generally organized and when we now

hear from many people that after the war ukraine will become the center of this world. ukraine will be a poor, destroyed state with an economic, democratic and social catastrophe, and all this will need to be given to the country. it will take years to rebuild . it will be necessary to help people who fought, who will be in a state of stress and moral decline after the war. these people will need to be treated. it is necessary to help those people who lost their loved ones in vinnytsia, thousands of people. what do you think that a mother who lost her son in the war will put on festive costumes and run on the day when hostilities end? to celebrate it like this is like that in soviet films, but it does not happen like that in life , and we have huge obligations to all these people , those who sacrificed the lives of their loved ones , those who sacrificed their health - these are hundreds of thousands of people plus millions of people who will not return here. congratulations

why are you adored? it's because you're one of the few. tell us the realities that await us to live with them. we need to understand them, because in a year, where are we? of course, you can consider such a country the center of the entire civilized world , but i didn't try to simply understand what to us we need to make it a normal country, normal for life. no, no, it did not grow after victory day. everyone thinks there will be victory and that's all. because politics, they say, we will rebuild , but politicians don't live in the destroyed houses of irpeni buchi in kharkiv and mariupol. which is still occupied? no, politicians don't live there. and people live, and i know my neighbors . they have a destroyed house right next to my house in irpen . it's also true and no one said that they will appear quickly because now there is more money . you don't need to go where to give it either. i understand that it is their job to ensure the conditions that

the taxpayers' money is used correctly for the next 10 years. taxpayers will have nothing to pay these taxes, and that is why i say that it is our task. why do we talk about it all? what is it? how did it stop as quickly as possible, and one of the possibilities of stopping this entire nightmare is because russia is determined for a multi-year war, do you hope that everything is fine on its territory, it's joining nato so that they understand that you can't come to us. that's why you have to fight for it, and i think that some presidents, when they fight for it, they 're doing something completely right - it's the methodology, but it's the approach itself. it is absolutely true and we should only support our president when he says that ukraine should receive an invitation for our country . putin has already lost the war and now has a real problem how to get out of here what should he do behind the scenes he can end the war