[000:00:00;00] are you satisfied with whether any such dynamics have been happening in the ukrainian army since the 14th year, when combat first appeared, and the situation at the current stage. i would like, with your permission, to first write to the audience what is the tactical level in general, and what automation gives or what improves it automation at the tactical level, and then i will tell you how the dynamics are happening in this direction, that is , the tactical level in its own way is the level from the soldier and at most to the battalion, and modern technological solutions at this level should be understood as the ability to plan advance the course of a certain operation and then during its execution have coordination between all actors in real time , namely, for example, to know where the neighboring units are located and to avoid friendly fire and quickly choose the closest to the enemy e-e threat response groups to know what the current

task is execution of groups of your neighbors and to know not only where they are and when they will arrive at certain planned places in order to engage in battle synchronously to avoid the concentration of fire one by one from your group, and, of course, it is quickly applied to the goal of changes in the enemy's deployment and instant decision-making in order, as you said, to have an advantage over numerically superior bodies, another technological possibility provided by modern technologies . you must have seen this in various special videos units is an opportunity not only to adjust the artillery, but also to coordinate the actions of their own units from the air through the prism of augmented reality from drones, it is especially useful for armored vehicle commanders who absolutely from the corners in the field of vision inside the equipment, as well as, for example, by means of air defense, which are very difficult to see in the sky, e.e., small drones, and all these solutions are achieved by combining a certain

software product with a communication infrastructure with various sensors, drones, cameras , rangefinders into a single complex system of tactical level and to yours in relation to your question well, with the appearance of pink and thanks to the intensive activity of volunteers to saturate the army with tablets all these years , as of now, we can state that we finally switched in most cases to paper ones from paper maps to e-e electronic exchange of targets with the surrounding environment but it does not work on the entire tactical segment of the front that is, it is limited to the possibilities of using sterling e-e stalinska usually or stationary positions or some large equipment in a calm environment e- eh al- but if we talk about a fighter in the gray zone or even a motorized infantry unit in russia, then it is not possible. well, it is not possible to use stalink and currently we only have certain play-naps with

the opportunity to look at the general situation before the start of the battle to exchange it er or being in certain trenches at stationary positions er er give certain targets that you see er for artillery damage but er it does not give you the dynamics of data exchange in real time, that is, in my understanding, the technological advantage is not only in the fact that you have a map and understanding of the battlefield as of 15 minutes or half an hour ago, but it is the ability to instantly make decisions and see the current situation and, moreover , the question remains how it will work when we will start to take place in crimea where currently starlink does not work in principle and most systems are in question in such a case, that is, in fact , we are talking about the fact that kombat is precisely such a solution that allows to ensure combat

operations in russia, the actions of the forces of special operations forces in detachment and from stationary positions not to be tied to starlink and at the same time have effective data exchange between all members of this group if they have devices that are created in the kombat vision format correctly so we have been concentrating on this direction for all these 11 years real-time coordination of units in the dynamics of regular radio communication due to the absence of any infrastructure data transmission network, and the patches of access to the internet, we were just lucky with the page, i would not even imagine what would happen in the course of the war if we did not have this tool of communication at the moment, but this technology that we are doing is not needed by the general infantry, which usually holds certain stationary positions, and we now have, roughly speaking, a stalinka in each cop, but it is very suitable for the tasks of groups of these special forces operations or cheap in raid countermeasures, and when we talk about regular communication

, you mean regular communication, real military communication, which is well protected, e-e , broadband, etc. communication and excuse me, i just got used to calling regular radio communication exactly military communication , i.e. my opinion is the following that uh motorolas were like when they were compromise options uh at the beginning of the war when there was nothing, they were better than analogues of the radio station but this is 90s technology years that was not designed in principle for military use and it is more there for the coordination of some guards of some objects or there is the coordination of the airport and it does not allow you to implement real-time multilateral exchange of all with all in real time and by regular means of communication, i understand military means of communication, such as, well, let's assume harissas, then, uh,

coins, systems like tvr silvis, and others that allow you, uh, not only simplex voice to deploy on the battlefield, but also other services then of course the question arises 11 years you have been making the product there are several versions of these products tested in the format of combat operations reviews of the special operations forces of other structures are absolutely positive to which question then how to proceed with the product how to implement it is it in service what is preventing it and is there some kind of economic profit in cooperation with the ministry of defense when you create such a technological product, what should the company actually earn from it in order to make it difficult to service the product and so on, this is what this block of your work looks like

at the beginning of this process, the main problem was outdated legislation and the impossibility of legally formalizing the use of the product according to our current norms in the 70s on encryption legislation on other various issues, now this process is moving more -less, but still remain the problems of technical implementation, which i mentioned , that is, the absence or insufficient number of means of communication , plus the second technical problem is that the main mass drone that we use is a civilian drone in which has a system for monitoring the user in civilian mode and so on in advance. and we are not systematically moving towards the creation of some own drone with phased 8 or four-channel cpire antennas that was able to work in

rap suppression mode and all these technical problems , they greatly narrow the scope of application of products simply to the level of an offline nap with marks with the possibility of uh, there is a point exchange on motorola once a minute with one mark, if we talk about the technical component, if we talk about uh, uh, if we say about the legal service of the zno, then in my zsu there is still no strategic vision for the application of such systems and there is no such demand or how if it is not clear to the market in commercial terms what the customer wants and all the systems that currently exist on the market they simply improvise on their experience and they impose some of their capabilities on users , while the financing model for the existence of these projects mostly consists of some kind of volunteer fees, shows some cool

achievements, and the like, and it's obvious apart from several past corruption scandals, there have been no orders from the state in the past years, and uh. in addition to the fact that there is no order, there is no distribution of uh, uh, requirements between potential manufacturers of similar solutions in order to avoid duplicating the implementation of the same functionality, now the developers are running towards the implementation of that of the functionality that is hyped, that is used and duplicated , the same type of projects appear. i just don't want to name these projects, but a lot of projects are moving in the same direction, this is not caused by that people there are useful or, er, want to do. well, this arose due to the fact that no one sets. does not give certain companies a certain direction and does not say everything. your task is to develop

there two force trading and here is an order for you to work in this direction. if you are such conditions if there were, the developers would not try to compete with each other because there are not so many developers on the market, as in principle the problem can be solved if this process is systematized. well, as i understand it, there is actually a product that has already been developed, some of our brigs are the previous version of this product they use it, they are satisfied, but it is technologically more complex than the versions that exist there, in particular, on the same nettle , which in principle is a static product, as i understand it from the point of view of use, and a dynamic such a combat product is needed by special operations forces and offensive brigades, and so far the national the product does not exist and you say that the ministry of defense does not understand , but it must understand what i say that if we advance, we must increase efficiency, implement digital methods that we needed them there today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, and then we come to the concept that we need to create such an information field

so that the military and industry and experts raise this topic and, in principle, accompany it to its result, which will first of all satisfy the armed forces, that is, as you understand, it is necessary here to add such an expert , professional , dynamic discussion of this issue, they seem to understand it and are even interested. to accumulate them in certain separate divisions, but the problem of such a movement is that, firstly , they accumulate them in order to first accumulate people and then understand what they will do, not for any specific projects, and secondly, for those who already exist solutions have been worked out, and who is not a state-owned producer, it is not clear how to interact with such units, that is, on the one hand

, the state does not order anything and is not ready to buy, on the other hand, it has a pool of some human resources and accumulated mobilized it specialists, but with by him it is legally impossible to cooperate because, according to our legislation, a civil servant is not only unable to carry out any tasks in a commercial project, he cannot even be involved with some common states on private projects, because the plane of this public-private partnership exists only in the fake form of a certain law that is not effective, well, that is, in fact. as i understand it, your company has developed a product, this product. it can be used , but now there are no interaction mechanisms, that is or you need to make an order, in order to make an order, you need to go through the test in accordance with the requirements to be written by the ministry of defense. the ministry of defense does not want to write the requirements for this complex product and you do not know where

to go. the key point is that writing the product is only roughly speaking 10-20% of the whole problem at the narcotic level, the main problem is in its further implementation in order to introduce this product in large quantities brigades and the like, it is necessary to have a large number of people who travel on these brigades and the like and it would be logical to use, for example, the same military it units to engage in such promotion, but they do not legally have the right to do this if this project is not an internal state project, that is , the only way now is to interact with the ministry of defense.

attention, from the real legal ways, there are only such ways, any option to show that you have a product that meets the requirements for the ministry of defense to create a team for the implementation of such a product, they focus on the question and why this particular product? well , there is no reason for the product to choose another product , there are no tenders or orders , well, that is, there is no plane to determine why the military should introduce certain products and not others, well, that is , we need some kind of decision that is somewhat higher than initiatives of the ministry of defense, in particular, there is a ministry of digital transformation, but it should be above the ministry, but on the other hand, when we look at the work of american units , we know that there will be a system. yes, that is, in fact, the devices that are in every combat vehicle and even these systems are transferred like this, even from bradley to our armed forces , does it not mean that our military is simply waiting for these systems

to increase in the transferred equipment and this quantitative indicator can then just form the requirement that okay, we are moving to the american system and we do not need national developers, er, i don't think i communicate with all , well, with the majority of these users, and there are several problems with this approach, one of the main problems is that until now the distribution and registration of users controls representatives of the foreign army. that is, it is not a very good option when you are in the trenches . has a lot the implementation of the applied functionality is extremely difficult for our user's average login threshold. that is, this tool

is excluded, well, in most cases, it is also for special operations forces for certain layers of users . this is one of those problems. special operations villages, which have probably been using the system since the 18th year. this was one of the reasons why we stopped implementing our previous generation. they still haven't fully learned how to use it. it is very complicated, that is, your decision is to hold a competition between your development and the american system. and you are convinced that a ukrainian user would make a plus or a bet on your system, if you compare the systems, roughly speaking, in terms of the amount of functionality , the american one will definitely win system because it was developed first and developed by an entire american institute, then it is now supported by many enthusiasts from various european countries, but if we talk about

the performance of certain specific tasks, for example, there is the task of bluffer standing is to simply see where the neighboring tanks are and what they are doing. in our system, it is much easier for the user to understand than in the similar system of this american one. therefore, looking at what the comparison criteria will be, mr. yevgeny, i think that we are still on this topic with you we will return in our next programs from the point of view of the digital e-e army and increasing the efficiency of our units on the battlefield. and now i have to stop our conversation to thank you for joining the broadcast and remind our viewers that we had the effect of the press evgeny maksimenko, head of the kombat vision project. this program adds strength to our military on the boyko field, especially when we say special operations requests, and later in our program there will be another

thing that we mention less. connection because there is one of the examples when one of our tanks went out to perform a combat mission under a pincer but could not perform this work because this connection disappeared for what reasons, what conclusions to draw and how to prevent this, we will talk in the second part of our program, after the information block, i returned, i was sad, but not combispasm, leave combispasm, the power that tames your pain, there are discounts on exoderil cream 20% in pharmacies. traveller, you and save money

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hairis it was using a different er system communication and i would like to ask you why such a situation could happen, as far as it is typical for our units on the battlefield, the russian ranks are actually quite serious , maybe even the most serious in the world or one of the most serious , for a long time they poured a lot of money into them it works great and in fact there are a lot of stations that are working now with the activity of radio intelligence. she sees those sanctions on the air . she works, uh, to catch the range in which these sanctions work as much as possible, and then when necessary, not all the time but at some point you can turn on the suppression system of this communication, and so if you don't see any activity, if

they see, uh, some active combat operations, and in them before that they have already scanned the ranges , frequency channels on which our communication works , they can turn them off well, very quickly there, in seconds, i think, in fact, even the connection that is now on the front, it most likely works very often, actually because they allow it to work, they do not turn it off, but at that moment , it is visible that they saw activity and turned it off they sent all the communication that was there to the districts to disrupt the attack of our military, that 's right. well, then the question arises about the problems of the communication system as well, but with certain features. so what did you do most of all? well, our communication system is not is not exactly intended for such situations , it is not intended for active

offensive actions and so on, it is rather for inconspicuous communication during some operations, that is, our system is now more oriented towards communication that is not seen by radio intelligence it is very difficult to see it on the air, it is very difficult to see it, but its main task is to be more invisible , er, we use such frequencies and such technologies that make it very difficult to detect it on the air 5 km away, 10 km away. it is very difficult most likely, i think so. well, although our system could help in this baku, we simply work below the level of noise, we work below the level of radars, er, at such a level that our communication is supported if we use a lot of power of the station, this is cool thing but you can be seen very far on the air if you use uh, it's not very noticeable , not a very powerful connection, you just won't see it, it's like whispering

like that in some 17 where there are a lot of people just no one will hear you, she's basically like that you actually made such portable radio stations of the tactical level that should be used by units so that this communication was invisible and was such that his enemy could not suppress his rap with his own means and it is very difficult to find him on the air and it is very difficult to track any of our radio stations because they shoot at frequencies and due to the fact that they jump large flights of frequencies, it is very, very difficult to see them, you can worsen the connection, but there at all to see it, well, i can't say that it is impossible at all, but it is very, very difficult for the opposite and your company is, let's say, a volunteer initiative company that created this system and now it is purchased by the main volunteers and individual military personnel for their units.

that is, it is a system that is not systematically used by the armed forces. but there is a demand for this sample, the project is developing very quickly at the beginning it was just a conventional radio station now it is a communication system our stations are integrated into the network our stations are now like microcells for a small cellular operator you can deploy this communication is like microcells that do not work over very long distances, they work there in the area of ​​a couple of three kilometers . and this is enough for communication, that is, you don't need a motorola there to communicate at a distance of 15 km from the headquarters, that's not to everyone most units need a small connection in a small area, you don’t need to use any powerful radio stations in this case, because powerful radio stations, uh, they glow like an orange in the snow, and you and well, their radio-reconnaissance immediately sees it, you need to use a small encrypted inconspicuous connection the communication is reliable and in this case you will have communication , you will not see the radio reconnaissance by itself

, it will be difficult for you to suppress it because there are frequency jumps at the beginning, it was just a distance now the rest of the multi-level communication is already built, it is the use of different groups, it is the relaying of signals, it is already like this, if the system is of a different class, and therefore this system is only developing rapidly in our country , what is actually the ministry of defense or anyone else, they, they, we will not be to keep up we have a lot of resources to make these changes constantly , i don't know, to conduct testers there , or, well, it's a system that is developing very quickly at a super-fast speed, you can say a startup. and no , the ministry of defense, no, and there is probably no general staff. in general, a lot of people in ukraine, uh, i can’t move like that, but the fighters are seen

by many as crazy and they say regardless of whether you are already even armed, do you have a codification, do you have anything about this connection already it is necessary, therefore, as soon as we develop something, any new stove, in any case, we release these sanctions , they are purchased, they have been used for quite a long time , 10 sanctions are still in the works, it is all in november, so the ministry of defense is now probably talking about our project, but i actually not sure that in the near future we will be able to achieve some success with them, you need to be developed as a very and let's say that this is not a budget but an affordable option, it was created on the basis of commercial components , exclusively commercial there, i don't have any militia components, nothing, and it was created so that i could buy it literally every military man, that is, i am a station, this is me, as i said earlier, these were sanctions. and now, after all , it is a small mobile operator that any

sub-license can buy there for itself and if they have anyone there who is a little tangential to technology communications and so on, they can set it up, and for this we don't necessarily need any bills from the ministry of defense, it is of course very useful, very important, but the stations are needed now and we can't waste time on all this, and in fact, people's lives and the lives of the soldiers there are more important. hmmm, we have started the process and we are shipping regardless of what the defense knows about us or not. oleksiy and you are talking about the fact that these radio stations or communication systems should be available or are they available in terms of price, but