[000:00:00;00] him and in general look at erdogan there was a coup there was a coup that made erdoğan weaker no he gained weight yes in america this bunz was a fascination of the congress nothing in china tianma was there everyone said that the chinese government but it will depend on how they will control this situation as they that is to say, this does not mean that this one is cracking under now under they have a chance er, well , in the next few days to clean up and so on. therefore, it will depend on how we the whole world, all the special services of the world, see burst, the same said that such a unique case for there was no recruitment and influence on russians for many tens of years. that means it will depend on how russia will be shaken or not . we are the entire democratic world, and i already classify us as a developed democracy

, we can still influence the change of the fate of russia itself and because of this, to change the security on the continent and in the world , thank you very much, sir, we are sorry, i have everything, everything , everything, there is more about vadym chernysh, minister of ukraine for the issues of temporarily occupied territories of internally displaced persons, i would also like to ask undoubtedly, there are many questions, but i will ask these questions, at least in part, to valery, who was a servant of the country in the united states from the 15th to the 19th years, and now i hope he will appear before us and we will talk with him about the various circumstances of our lives, about the good health, mr. valery, i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes look at such a simple and difficult question for you to say , let's start right away with something that may not

be of interest to everyone. of of the minister of defense of great britain, to what extent can we say that it was diplomatic or it was not a mistake because some say it was not a mistake precisely because there was such brutality and such a raid, then if everyone understood that ukraine is not joking and others start saying there washington post what did they decide to weaken support for ukraine after these words of zelensky ? what did you say to this, mr. valery? i would say that i expected originality from you. this is a question that has already been asked for the 25th time. this week , the organization begins. there was such an interesting story about russia.

because in the end, if you allow me, i will say, i will answer, of course, i, well , i can't help but answer your question , uh , the situation already. the ukrainian people, between thanks and all the support with weapons and finances and , after all, understanding abroad of our contribution, this is another task that we all need to do , because behind this there is a more complex issue, in fact, and this and this from the same side positive moment it stands like this and who won this war for me, i already saw it after the maidan, when in 2014 there were so many authors of the victory that they simply

lined up in such a long line, and as a result, i will tell you as a witness of those times . that is, it was the ukrainian people who broke some plans, steered correctly, that is, he is such a passionate active part, that is why i think from this situation, we will also steer sooner or later, normally, then one more question is not original, see, er, such a wave was a hope before this nato coincidence in lithuania, and i was always surprised by this from the point of view of how to say political, broad-political, maybe socio-political, even i would add socio-political, uh , it was worth spreading the word. well, because i am such a skeptic, i always said, well, no one promised that this is desirable i would like it, but it is such a dream, it is not realistic, it is realistic to imagine that they will give a pass to nato and immediately

the american, english, german , polish, lithuanian troops will appear on the ukrainian fronts, well, this cannot happen because it can never happen taught us as he called it yanukovych, the poet, chekhov, russian, so that you would say this, this, this wave, this is what it is, what kind of fanfare did it play, as both of you and i are well-informed optimists, so we knew that this was also heard on the airwaves, i spoke about it more than once what to expect , what will be the solution in the invitation, well, it was, let’s say so, it would be very unfounded. but if there were no ukrainian people who push forward and try

to take more steps and achieve the maximum , this is a very good, good, normal approach, but i would say yes, there is time to split there is a bonfire. time to collect firewood. who is okay? well, we agreed on one more very important question. erdogan, how do you see him after winning the elections? he behaves, well, much calmer, freer. somehow, i would not say that this is anti-russian, but yes, if not a little neglectful of the circumstances, for example, until today , the last it will run away as if leaving the odesa port and as if tomorrow it will not be there already, the aerodog already says, well, at least the turkish side will then protect our military boats

. they will sail nearby. well, in short, it is already like that as it seems, he is not so dependent on russia. am i wrong or tell me your version? well, i had the opportunity to communicate with him in delegations with him more than once, and with his team i will say that in my opinion these are the strongest diplomatic teams in the world today, turkish and all the roles are divided there. everyone understands. who is the president, of course. but there are nuances . he gives the opportunity to express his positions. if it is , for example, some things that are not very pleasant, then he will not do it himself. i will do something else. and he is quite consistent. position is being formed doesn't mean that i, er, i'll honestly tell you, i'm delighted with such a position, because in principle, from the very beginning, i believed that turkey could make its own convoys, because their

naval forces are stronger than the russian black sea fleet, but even the fact that the straits are closed, well, that this too, but you know it is a convention, a convention, but everything is collapsing now, and he did it clearly and confidently. and this gives the opportunity to regulate something else. i think that any elected president, he is already at a new stage , stronger and stronger, he has become stronger russia and putin is weaker, he felt weak from putin. that's all. i don't want to go into turkey's internal issues, it's not their business at the moment , well, the transmission is not dedicated to this, but what you see is that certain economic moments are pushing to establish more ties with the european union, trade with the west world it is obvious, that is, there are things that

the president of turkey does simply because the objective circumstances are like this and he already has a new period of leverage on the situation therefore, he is not one of those people who are afraid of putin, but we are not i like and honestly i don't like turkey's role, that it is not what i don't like. they have chosen a good role for themselves and they are successful. it would be better for us if turkey went even further in this balance of interests, because they are all trading with russia and fueling it. in this regard, finances. well, let's start from what is there, so yes, i agree with you. i expect not only from the president of turkey with his wise approach to understanding the situation, more decisive steps to support ukraine, but also in general , well, turkey's statement is very clear about

ukraine's need for nato membership is a good signal from our neighbors, these are our neighbors on the black sea. therefore, these are very inspiring moments. well, i would like you to know that we do not get stuck here, that everything will be fine , mr. valery, one more question, despite all the hopes for accession in nato in july of the 23rd year, i have some thoughts about april of next year, it means maybe i'm wrong, but many experts support me, even though i think i could be wrong but you were an ambassador for many years to the united states, is there any logic in my thinking that america wanted this nato step for ukraine to take during the meeting in washington next year when the same action will take place as it was in lithuania this year and next year it will be washington and

if this is a catch if the pre-election will add about one micron because it is clear that americans think more about domestic affairs and think less about international affairs during elections, but it won't hurt you to get a penny in this wallet, or in that wallet, is there something rational in my thoughts or as usual i’m saying it’s absurd, everyone was told, please, now they will do it like this before the technology will offer jazz biden to make it part of his candidate ’s program, it’s possible if you don’t see that there will be a victory here and then it won’t be a penny, it will be a serious contribution because it forms one a very serious argument about the power of the current president of the united states and what i can make a cautious prediction that it will not be in april because that is how the circumstances are, that

more time is needed for the deoccupation of the territory , well, in connection with the fact that well, there are many factors here but more time. i think that this one will be somewhat postponed for a couple of months . and then, well, maybe the stars will align. then the argument in joseph biden's company is because again it's not about that, something was done there as an element, it's about the strength and capacity and strength of the candidate, so it can be like that yes, look , valery, i also have such a question for you, can it be like that no no no no no systemic how are you?

explain well, many european countries say that we can't even train on the f16 until washington gives us permission . and what's the problem? well, okay, they thought about these planes for a long time and then they said, okay, there will be planes, but now they don't seem to let us train pilots in 16 ukrainian and now they are waiting for when washington will give permission. well, why is it that there is really some kind of struggle inside, or why, or simply, these planes are not yet available, they have not been produced yet. well , there are a lot of thoughts, please, well, two questions here, one question. is what you say formed? political position. why is it delayed there? look at what you said there about, for example, next year's summit . well, let's really look at the reality of vilnius . why did they drag it to

vilnius? the announcement has already been made of this coalition of planes. generation for political influence, we would also like it not to depend on jenga or the schedule of these summits, but this is politics and we will understand what can be tied like that now there is a political solution now the second is this study permit i give you i'll be honest, it's a very good question . i understand that there are different options for a production license, because the f-16 is an american plane. 25% of the production is there, and each f16 has some european parts and some american parts. i don’t know how

this license or sales permit and training permit is processed here. to be honest, technically, i don’t know the nuance because it really doesn’t look like you a little bit it's so strange that you have to ask for permission to study. well, for example, they didn't ask for permission to get acquainted, well, that is, what is called there to train on the simulators, look in the cabin, look there, i see that it has already been completed, and maybe the whole set of activities is meant in general, not just training a the use of all the equipment is there, not only the planes are there and the refuelers are there, we have a lot of accompanying all the actions, so to be honest, it seems to you that i don’t know why it is delaying the situation, why it is necessary to ask for a study permit, it is necessary

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the health condition of mikhail saakashvila, the former president and ukrainian citizen. - something appears in the polish press, they write that i am tracking not only because this is a humanitarian issue, because they flee a person in front of the whole world and torture and kill a person step by step. well, there is also a political issue. let saakashvili have it a person who is known in poland as the very last terrible corrupt country in the soviet space on the normal european western path , that is , this is an example. что можно еще, as i myself remember well when i was saakashvili. well, it was such a horror, which

is not in poland, not in ukraine, not so much . vot takoy takoy devastations of terror saw and then during and after saakashvili, georgia remained a wonderful and hospitable country that is pleasant for life, this is russia , she wants everything to be in the soviet space , berlin video, like georgia, then saakashvili , because the only chance for russia to survive in this world is that there will be much more around russia it's worse that the soviet people in russia look at such destruction and say to each other well, let 's fuck with putin because it's even worse everywhere. so saakashvili is a symbol for all of us, a symbol of that

that there is no life in the good direction in our region miller is necessary and what is the great former colonial state that is nearby and when we really take on reforms, it will not be able to do anything with it, it will not be able to do anything with it . and what are you looking at, this is another question, this is a strange controversial question, how is it for me, a person who remembers chernobyl, poland decided to build a nuclear power plant, not a russian one, but an american one, what kind of discussion is going on in poland, so do they remember the focus in

poles, chernobyl , and so on . those are the bad stories around nuclear power plants, please, not the small ones . uh, russia wants to expel the polish consulate in smolensk, and this is also some kind of absurd situation . well, let's ask in more detail, because it's real . everywhere there is something to talk about with every political scientist , i would say this for the audience. the fact that in almost all european countries, the number of russian diplomats is much greater than the number of european diplomats of each individual country in moscow, and somehow, well, everyone just

put on a good face, smiled and said , well, if the russians want, let them have them there, we will have 100, and the russians will have 200. well but now it turned out that among the two hundred conditional ones that russia has in some european country, at least 100 are intelligence agents, spies, and maybe even sometimes saboteurs who do harm, because we directly know what is going on in sweden there were cases when they were connected to cameras that are simply located on the highway and that record the circumstances, which means on a-a our sev is how scandinavian the countries of the north of europe are. in fact, i do not know this for sure, but i know for sure that the number of russian spies in europe is much more than the number of spies if they are europeans in moscow, although in fact it would be useful to have

more european intelligence officers in moscow to at least get some information and know more about what is happening , i do not see that mr. yakub is appearing, does this mean that he can't call him i'm told i have such a thing in my ear and i mean now i have three whole minutes to just chat without without contact without contact well and then i'll tell you , since this has already happened, it means that the russian federation received it diplomatically on july 14 a note from russia, the polish embassy in moscow received such a note and it says that

it revokes the consent issued on june 27, 2011 to the functioning consulate of the polish agency in the city of smolensk, which is close enough to ukraine. well, if look at the map, it is close to bila, this is the way from poland to moscow, from warsaw to moscow, conditionally through belarus and the next stop after belarus - it is actually among the big places, it is precisely the city of smolensk, and there was an embassy there, a consulate, now this consulate has moved to moscow, this means that there will be a huge burden for all russians who want to go to poland and have some rights for this, let's say, for example , some family ties, scientific ties, student educational ties, and so on and so on

it will be difficult for them because, apart from everything else, the russians are terrible , yes, three. and they told me that we can talk for three to three minutes with some polish political scientist. how is chernobyl or fokusym in japan for the point is that we have to take this risk because gas is russian and renewable energy sources are german cash-flow, that is, any of these elections is worse than nuclear energy because any other energy has a political undertone and makes poland dependent either on germany or on russia, this is what we need to avoid, so rylsky is of course that, but there is no way out because we are in such a city

in the world that they rely on russia, not on germany from the point of view of energy we cannot, since we have already allowed the mnenets to build the nordstream, everything is free in ukraine . it is possible that this is the story with the polish consulate in smolensk . this is what russia said is leaving smolensk with its consulate

. - the solution of russia, the symbol of russia, the vet union is revived only the worst manifestation of it, the polish consulate in smolensk apc and the katyn forest, in which the russians shot 20 thousand polish officers. soviet standards and they want to do everything so that no one actually found out about what they did, they know that how are you eh also how eh yalta is the most terrible the most terrible words in the polish language the most difficult historical