[000:00:00;00] we don't want this war, we just want to live on our land, we speak our language, we pray to our and your god, we want , eh, tigran from the competition from india thousands of times, the chairman of the european party of armenia was with us. well, you see, a foreign language is not so easy use now i will talk i will talk after some time with dmytro kapranov writer publisher publicist public figure blogger and so on and so on and so on, what to do with the motherland, which i announced somewhere there for 20 minutes therefore, i have such personal personal memories, i saw brezhnev twice, well, in person and the second time just when he came to kyiv to open this

motherland. so we were expelled as students, meaning everyone with some kind of people. well, thank god, i didn’t have any flag, there was nothing, but he the cortege drove along shevchenko boulevard. we were standing on shevchenko boulevard near the university, well, not far from the university, he looked like a wax figure from madame tussauds in london, for example, and such a motionless person of such a half-yellow color, i remember it. the second thing i remember is that he was already quite old and careless. such a gerantocracy reigned in ukraine in the soviet union and there were special laws or something that explained how what to do during brezhnev's visit. for example, one of

the necessities it was that the blankets should be red. the red path should be covered along the way. when they finished one part before the other, he didn't trip because he raised his legs by 3 mm. if the height was 4 , then he could fall. well, i remember that his the leaders of ukraine at the same time, the non-ministic shcherbytsky did not let him fall, so today we would have told our colleagues about it and talked about it. maybe then the world would have gone in a different direction, because if he had fallen and smashed his head, well, there would have been a huge scandal. well, volodymyr shcherbytsky hugged and didn't let him fall this and now it means i hope dmytro kaprana is already with us no he is with us with us

always with us lenin is always alive dmytro kapranov is always with us good health mr. dmytro thank you for finding time for us so what to replace the soviet coat of arms with a ukrainian one, or to demolish the entire complex, which is called, as far as i remember, the great patriotic war complex. now we have another real patriotic war, so you can tell me what your thoughts are. if you have any jokes, i knew how always some kind of jokes well, you can also share, we are now talking about what i was just explaining why i had them because i see lenin, i saw brezhnev just on the day when this er, this monument was opened, the word of

mr. dmytro yes well, i want to start to recall that the so-called monumental propaganda was the basic propaganda, the basic weapon of the bolsheviks, starting literally from the first days of their rule. that is, it is not just that they put all these sculptures, these sculptures are the most visible, crude and symbolic way of propagating communist ideas, and for good reason they started by knocking down monuments to kings, and one of the first informational decrees, one might say , informational policy began precisely with monumental propaganda, so we must understand that this is all the same. what to have there collaborators in er next to you, it’s the same as allowing er to buy from yourself, because all this is built precisely with the purpose of shooting at us, and unfortunately it shoots and shoots regularly, these shots just accumulate , they don’t hurt right away, then they accumulate, and then suddenly there is a large invasion of hundreds of thousands of people, and we ask, what

happened? and why suddenly? and all this is part of one big propaganda scheme that was carried out by the soviet authorities and carried out quite successfully, judging by the number of quilters who are in ukraine and in russia, judging by the fact that you and i are now getting stronger and we cannot overcome the russian soviet propaganda and the myth that the soviet union was so good still lives in the heads, including a large number of ukrainians. so we simply underestimate these things, that's why i look at it here absolutely categorically, these soviet monuments must be demolished . moreover, this lady does not carry anything of any aesthetic value with her.

there is a similar woman standing in the capital, it was also all a system of building such trans-republican propaganda , and therefore, of course, at the first opportunity, when there is a consensus on this money, eh, among the people who are demolishing eh , of course, it must be rooted out and even uprooted. yes, i i would support mr. dmytro because when i was a child, seven or nine years old or something , i understood a little later. i was a little surprised by the originality of the inscription on the vatutin monument. i have never seen such a thing anywhere. it was written there. what remained of the ukrainian people? ukrainian from the ukrainian people. well, i didn’t see that, then when i grew up, i realized that he was killed or seriously wounded. in the magnifying glass, and if it were to show that these were the fathers, and the people in general , zavetutina, but these are the shortcomings

of the capitalist nationalists, they killed him, but this does not mean that the people against, but when i was 7-9 years old there, i was sitting there thinking, i don't see any monuments where it would be written about the ukrainian people, there is no pushkin there, i read about the ukrainian people, i don't know zhukov, er, marshal about the ukrainian people but vatutin from the ukrainian people later realized for himself that this is a big propaganda well, but it will take a lot of money if i were to say money, imagine an ideal picture of the world tomorrow, we will defeat russia the day after tomorrow , it means money that we will take from russia, ukrainian the government takes from the russian government and a large part is simply removed very well . well, i imagine some millions of dollars

from this woman and remove it and and and well, i understand that it is possible to find some rich people who will allow to build a couple of skyscrapers there the trio of kyiv developers, maybe they will want to do this, i just don't know, but i just imagine that in every village there are remnants of all that happened on the houses and monuments here and there, because even in the former socialist countries of europe , these are still standing puppets although they are already independent, you know from 89, some 90, some from 91, some from 92, some earlier, some later, but they could not overcome this, this amount of monumental propaganda and still this is all there , now they are trying to remove marshal konev in prague or there in the czech republic and so on and so on, what do you think should

be done, draw up a plan for the five-year plan, say we don't have money, we will only remove this in the first year. and in the second year, this and then the competition will start we had a plan, we had to mean according to the plan 15 lenin, is there someone to clean up? it is metal it's quite expensive. i think that the old woman's scrap metal will be enough to dismantle it. and what you said about where do you get money from? actually, first of all, it's about having a desire. now, we were doing material on the history of zionism for our shevchenko channel. it is like this and where it started and came to a very interesting conclusion that

israel is a volunteer project - it is a country that was built by volunteers on a volunteer basis, it was built by those people who wanted to build it, unlike other states that have some sort of heredity here people gathered who needed israel very much personally, and this is, in fact, hmm, what can the volunteers comment on, if they can build the country, then i'm sorry to destroy some monuments or something like that. this is a time of miracles. for art and for culture , there are no problems here, the main thing is to give people who need ukraine to give them the opportunity to build this ukraine, this is the main thing , i don’t care if the state is to blame or not, i don’t know

i will leave the state, i received an inheritance from lenin or something so that all this will be replaced by the fact that the people who need this state have the opportunity to build this state with their own hands. i will remind you once again that israel was built on land that was bought from the palestinian arabs , and on this land they built a country with their own hands, only those who wanted and this example is really inspiring, so it seems to me that in general ukraine is the business of those people who want it, this is a volunteer project and the only thing we need to build is such a system that you by the way i'm sorry, i have two questions, first of all, where would ukrainian rothschild be found, because rothschild contributed a lot to the development of money for the organization of the state of israel. i don't see any hrytska in a scrap yard near london, who has this amount of money, and the second is the first question is so humorous, semi-veronic, and the second question is important

, that is, what you say is the proposal of the existence of a parallel state, because it is not trust in official institutions, not exactly parallel, and rather an internal state that is, to give a mechanism to people who want to change something, so that they can change something. and what about adults is a very interesting idea. i am very interested in the idea because recently the ukrainian force was made public, and after akhmetov , the guys who made a site that helps to write a game are in second and third place. marley seems to be helping to write in english, what should you pay attention to in order to make money , you didn't have to sell ukraine, settle in donbas, that means the dpr, they didn't have to buy political parties, you didn't have to

sell your soul to the devil, but all of ukraine the state to the muscovites, they honestly did business absolutely transparent because they live in canada and act according to canadian laws and that means it is possible and this is a very revealing moment, i.e. these two boys and who did it and together we have more wealth than akhmetov with with all his factories and newspapers, passing through the shakhtar club, e-e , the stadium in donetsk, and what with his big ground, with all his dark past, e-e, they earned this money easier. that is, you and i can actually find rothschild. they understood why they need this ukraine because these two guys live in canada and you know why because if they live in ukraine tomorrow akhmetov's people will come to them and say either sell it or we will arrest you, convict you, confiscate you, bankrupt you and so on therefore, it is better for them to live in canada, if we are a group of people who need this ukraine, and there are enough of such people

, we will make it so that these guys do not have to go to canada, we will make it so that they want to live in ukraine, then you will find a solution ukrainians are not more faithful than others, as practice shows, the only thing that we have, unfortunately, is state administration, we inherited it under the soviet union, we have such , you know, oligarchic socialism, our system is called , under the conditions of oligarchic socialism, it is very difficult to find things lviv, and if we video of the fundamental excuse me, dmytro, art we still have a few minutes and it is important to move on to an important topic . i agree with you by the way, but i would like to say that it is possible for these volunteers who really need this ukraine to be vital

i would say that it is necessary for them to move to the pecher hills and they would not be able to, no force in the world could give them a bribe so that they act not for their own benefit but for the benefit of the state. this moment is very important for these volunteers to master the pecher hills and among them we find those who can not only fight or supply medical equipment to the front, but also manage ministries, manage departments , manage the country, manage the government, manage the verkhovna rada, this moment is very important so that there is no parallel state, but that this the state of volunteers became the state of ukraine. yes, this is a very difficult moment, it is undoubtedly what it is against. actually, our entire political system is built so that

, god forbid, it should not happen, because in order to get into the verkhovna rada, uh, you have to spend a lot of money there funds and back, in order to get them, you have to engage in corruption, this is the entrance ticket to politics, this is the main thing that ensures the monopoly in all of this, our current political world, that is , oligarchs and such oligarchs are oligarchic who should issue this money from the state? but today we have a unique chance . unfortunately, there is a war going on and half of our country is bombed. we are required by our western partners, who today are actively participating

in this so that we defend ourselves, and that means they will help us in these transformations. cat's mother that is everything is mixed up and nothing is happening there, we have a chance today, the only thing is that we must understand what we are doing. and for this, this volunteer spirit is the volunteer idea that this is our country and we will leave it to our children, and we wanted to spit on all these akhmetovs because yesterday we had weapons and we know how things are done, if we keep this spirit , i think with the help of our western allies as well, we will be able to build a new geography on this chessboard dmytro kapranov - writer of the airborne forces from the air force, publicist , public figure, optimist, blogger, congratulations

brother, good luck, sir, and we are moving on, we have 10 minutes left, just the time to talk about what mr. dmytro and i were talking about corruption natalia sichevlyuk , a legal adviser, is transferred international ukraine is such an organization that is just about corruption about money, let's say so, if i see her, it will be beautiful. and i can't see it yet, i can see it, and it's beautiful. i see everything perfectly, mrs. natalya . good health. thank you for visiting us for a while . it means that we can't see it again, only hear it. it's also nice to see you now so you developed a special project, i.e., the transferists did not live , they developed a special project, er, 995 confiscated assets of the russian hoards of putin’s hoards. so, you have this project and

you can, but my question to you, ms. natalya, is how to withdraw it? well, there is this money, there is a lot of this money but they will all run to what is the name of the international court of human rights, the european court of human rights, etc., they will win a lot of cases and the ukrainian state will not be able to get this money. what is your version, ms. natalya, of course, the risk of bor- can be appealed by confiscation to of the european court of human rights, but it is precisely on our platform that we point out potential risks that can contribute to this and offer ways to solve them . 993 properties were confiscated precisely for him

. that is, we are gradually approaching international standards and are trying to secure ourselves and already secure those assets that were confiscated from the remnants of the fact that they can be returned to the russians through appeals to international authorities well, then tell ms. natalya, for such a person who did not graduate from the law faculty and did not fully understand how to do it, you can’t be pressured, as once the commission was yours, it became ours, somehow it doesn’t work out, but how, how to do it because that muscovite will say that i didn't support putin, i honestly bought it. did i somehow do it there? did i do it somehow? i don't know how. and i had a factory or something like that, and then the evil ukrainians came and took it

all away from me. the saint's right is irreversible the right of private property, the reverse right of private property did not work anywhere, but unfortunately, such cases as we are experiencing now in ukraine, they are not the first, they are not the last . of froryism, for example, in the usa, a-a confiscated the sovereign assets of afghanistan, and before the full-scale invasion of ukraine, there were no mechanisms anywhere in the world that would be aimed at this , of course, of course, the sacred right of ownership is still sacred, so ideally we we believe that it would be much easier and more effective to confiscate the assets of russia as a state, because the question of proportionality and so on will not arise here in all these

problems that you voiced about the fact that i did not know, i bought there, it all started well, that's how it happened but here it is more a matter of practical will than of legal technique , we now have what we have and we confiscate the assets of mm according to the sanctioning mechanism for the most part, although we also have criminal cases that are verified in practice and here is precisely the smallest risk of appeal, just unfortunately this is quite closed information. even on our platform, we were not able to provide a list of assets that were confiscated precisely within the framework of criminal proceedings, but more than uah 25 billion has already been transferred to the fund for liquidation of the consequences of armed aggression of the russian federation. this is, of course , a small amount compared to the losses that i caused russia to ukraine, but it is already at least something and we are moving in this direction and answering your question once again new challenges they require new solutions they

require a departure from some legal traditions and even international standards, because when they are ineffective, it means that they need to be changed, ms. natalya, and about which i do not say the exact numbers, she does not ask about the exact number, but the order of the numbers. are there hundreds of billions of dollars? is it tens of billions if it is in dollars? well, you can in hryvnias, we are definitely patriots, but for some reason i always want them in dollars , they are just so, well, more pleasant. figure in my head, but unfortunately those assets have not yet been realized, and the background of state property is responsible for this. so they were not evaluated during the case review. and even hypothetically to allow some price, it would be very unprofessional on my part, i can

only tell you that among those there are 995 objects and real estate, i am in the process of obtaining the rights and storage facilities . there are a lot of assets that have their own specifics and specific evaluations, and as for monetary assets , $85,000 was confiscated in pure money and uah 77 million is what we know now that in their own currency was confiscated from the accounts of russian oligarchs. well, not much , i would say, in my opinion, it is very little here, but in principle, an estimate. not very far from ocean plaza and here he is, the plaza depends on some rothenberg brothers, friends of putin, where are you, and i think some

realtor can look at it in ocean plaza and say well, it is somewhere around 5 million or 10 million dollars or there 100 million i don't know yes, well, just as well, take it there, run around ukraine, look and say. well, that’s about it. i’m talking about the order of the numbers. i’m not talking about the exact numbers, that is, what do you think about it , just to give people an idea, well, how much can it be? i think that this in the amount in which russian assets are currently confiscated, that is, it is about 995 objects , as i repeat once again, among them there are assets that are generally very low-value, for example, there are approximately 50 apartments located in crimea and so far none of my colleagues, including me and not understand how ukraine is going to implement this decision. but i can definitely say that even after realizing the most expensive assets

, there is no time. everything will still not cover the damages caused to ukraine by russia, that is, purely russian assets that are consolidated in ukraine. we will not do without ocean plaza, which you have already mentioned by the way, they confiscated its shares, more precisely, a part of the company was confiscated, and not all of it, but also a percentage that belonged to the rothenberg brothers. that is, we cannot say that, roughly speaking, the whole plan is worth five million dollars there and from this confiscation we will receive exactly this amount in general assessment of corporate rights this is a very complicated story - it's excuse me, well, i will not undertake even approximate calculations . i'm just asking

. the world, in europe, in the united states, what to do with the money that is now there, that belongs to the russian federation or russian citizens, and this is the same group of questions that i just asked you about ukraine, and here, too , i can imagine the political will of ukrainians because we are just at war, but there is no war in france, there is no war in england . and there is russian money, will there be political will to take it all, and is there a mechanism or is there a road map how to do it, we will not force anyone to do anything you won't be able to do it, it really holds on very much, gives the land here, what ugh. it seems that they won't let us agree, mrs. nataliya , that's our fate, the most important question for

ukrainians is where is the loot, where is the money, we can discuss . can we continue, please, they say that there is already a connection yes, ms. natalie, please i'm sorry, please, i have a problem with the network, and the most important question is where is the loot, but do you understand what prevents our partners from giving it to ukraine ? well, although there have already been some cases, for example, the united states is the only one to transfer money in ukraine in russian oligarch malafeev took place in the usa and for the criminalization of sanctions, the initiatives are legally correct. i mean, they are the only issue. well, about political will , ukraine needs more foreign policy , more communication, more application, because

for our international partners, russian aggression is such a very imaginary er imaginary thing and a certain romanticization of the russian empire is present in some countries. it simply requires a pain of communication on the part of ukraine and greater i would say courage on the part of the world , in particular the eu countries, and in general they are actually interested in transfer this money to us not just because we need it, but because of the system they will introduce in order to transfer this money to us, they will be able to prevent a very large amount of corruption and cross-border crimes, for example financing of terrorism, money laundering, with which there are currently very big problems in europe, in particular in great britain, so here i would not talk about the fact that we are talking only about the interests of ukraine, they are international states, having developed the appropriate mechanisms and

tested them in practice, they at a minimum, they will protect themselves from potential aggression from anyone, that is, the very great mrs. nataliya nataliya sichivlyuk was with us a legal adviser of the transfer - this is international of ukraine, who said that there is a chance to take money from the russian oligarchs in ukraine, but it will not be easy to do it on an international scale good luck, ladies and gentlemen, welcome words from ani yavya melnyk, and i am going to rest, thank you. good evening, thank you for your work. the news team summarizes the news of the day. what is the deadline for the grain initiative coming up ? tomorrow, how will the united states react in the event of russia's refusal to continue its mass murder in kharkiv and , of course, about the situation at the front, details of these