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[000:00:00;00] and this means not to be swayed by any advertising offers, not to buy, for example, housing in mariupol or to take it away from murdered families , not to go on vacation to the temporarily occupied crimea, well , in fact, the majority does not go anyway. actions of propaganda, information and others well, because it is simply dangerous for life and health, besides, you risk being involved in war crimes and accordingly suffered punishment for this, if we know it for sure, because he has not yet, of course, fool well, that's why it's already a story for how much the russian administration values ​​the lives of its own civilians mr. andriy, you mentioned logistics, how it will affect the logistics of the occupiers and how soon it will be reflected on the front of the russian-ukrainian war, well, just a story with one bridge, we can't quickly - no
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we will see the results, but if we talk about the totality of events that are happening now on the front line and behind the front line, we see that, well, systemically, the logistics and communication routes of the occupiers, well, let's say, suffer systemic losses and this dynamic will continue, everything that slows down the delivery of enemy forces to ukrainian territory, everything that complicates the logistics of the means that help the putin regime to kill ukrainians, both civilians and military, well, of course, this is good news for us , and this is news that we will definitely use ukrainian i don't know the security and defense forces, the chances are high. how do you assess the chances and possibilities of the bridge finally being tired, so to speak? at the moment, i think that the first task is a task that many good people are working on, not only in ukraine. i think
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which solutions will definitely be found. well, after the attack on the crimean bridge, russia officially withdrew from the grain agreement that allowed the export of ukrainian food from black sea ports despite the war. moscow has already informed turkey of its decision, the country and the un secretariat, at least that's what russia said in the kremlin revoked shipping safety guarantees and intends to close the maritime humanitarian corridor in the north-western waters of the black sea, the president of turkey , the regime of her predecessor, said that he plans to talk to vladimir putin because he believes that he is interested in the humanitarian corridor continuing to work zoryana stepanenko will continue the termination of the agreement , she reacted to the president of the european commission, called this move by russia cynical and said that the eu strongly condemns it . in this context, she mentioned the so-called lines of solidarity, the routes for the export of ukrainian grain through the neighboring
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ukraine of the european union, however, she noted that they are not designed for such volumes of cargo that is why the sea route was necessary. therefore, the main route of departure of ukrainian grain outside of ukraine, which is one of the largest exporters of agricultural products in the world, the last ship with agricultural raw materials covered by the black sea initiative left odesa port yesterday, and today moscow announced that the agreement is being terminated, which has already been informed ukraine, turkey and the un , i.e. the other side of the agreement and mediators , are accused of non-fulfillment of russian demands , although russia did not include them in the grain agreement put them forward separately within the terms of the notice to ros silgosbank, which makes payments related to the export of grain, access to the swift payment system, which was lost a year ago in connection with the sanctions of the shell time fine, they learned that the european union did not reject the possibility of concessions, a plan that would allow relatively to preserve the face of all the participants of the agreement provided for the creation of a subsidiary of ros
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silgosbank regarding the legality and chances of implementing this scheme, the sources of the publication studied the governing bodies of the european union , russia also wanted to restore supplies of modern agricultural machinery, the access of russian ships to foreign ports and the resumption of transit of ammonia through ukrainian territory, which stopped with the beginning of the invasion. the fact is that russia is simultaneously building a terminal for the export of ammonia near the black sea , the construction of which is being completed, and the ukrainian foreign ministry considered this a possible reason for russia's withdrawal from of the grain initiative , such a turn was not a surprise for ukraine , and russia had previously repeatedly threatened to withdraw from the agreement, the ukrainian ministry of infrastructure spoke of the existence of a plan to until it was presented. and i will also add that during the year of its existence, the agreement allowed the export of about 33 million tons of grain from ukraine , preventing a food shortage in the world and the flow of foreign exchange earnings to ukraine . the president of ukraine still believes that
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vladimir putin wants this humanitarian corridor to function and further announced a conversation with the president of russia without waiting for their august meeting zoryana stepanenko marik hayduk radio svoboda i will only add to the words of my colleague zoryana stepanenko that just now there was a message that the secretary general of the un, antonio otelish, sent a letter to vladimir putin with a new proposal regarding the preservation of the grain agreement, and he also said that the un will further promote the export of products and fertilizers from ukraine and russia. well, i urge you at this moment to subscribe to the pages of radio liberty and like this broadcast the youtube algorithm works like this what the more likes the more people learn about us support our work well , andriy ryzhenko joins our broadcast captain of the first rank of the reserve deputy chief of staff of the navy of the armed forces of ukraine 2004-1920s good evening good evening, tell me, from your point of view, the termination
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of the grain agreement. i know that today it was just about to expire, but it could have been extended, but moscow did not extend it so demonstratively, this is a response to the explosion at the crossing or not, is it a fact? well, they said that they are terminating the grain agreement, or rather that part, or rather, here, the grain water that concerns well , they also said that they are terminating and said that it is not related to the fact of today's explosions on the crimean bridge, but there agreement which signed by ukraine with, again, turkey, with the organization of the united nations. well, how could they continue, but again , well, today, let's say it very diplomatically, well , they told the kremlin that after july 17, the russian
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federation does not guarantee the safety of navigation of these ships, which means that they will follow with three ukrainian ports to the bosphorus strait , that is, er, translating, this is a very diplomatic statesman, you can say that well, there will simply be provocations at sea and ships may be subjected to attacks at sea, it is possible for hidden attacks, that is, it can be a-a well, for example, an explosion of a sea mine somewhere on the way of tracking, but there or there, for example, an attack of some unknown drone, but on the way there is a tracking of sea or air, and then, well
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, it will be very difficult, it is still it is to find out who does it belong to, that is, well, there may be many, many options, but, well, yes, yes , it looks exactly like this, that is, if i understood you correctly, if russia does not agree to the extension of the grain agreement and not before, he will not sign this agreement from the zone with turkey , because russia did not sign anything with ukraine, so if they restart this grain agreement now, they will not restart this grain agreement, then we can also expect shelling of the ships that will follow with food. well, yes , of course it was. maybe they forgot a little. in february and march of last year, they even launched rockets to control the ruble , or rather the herdsmen who entered our ports , they sunk the estonian ship before
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the entrance to the port of odessa, and this one of such a nature they will not continue, rather, they will start again, i understood you well. now to er. well, we will keep an eye on it. i already see a statement from goteresh. they are also trying to come to an agreement with putin. er, if we return to the topic with which we started the broadcast - this is an attack on the crimean bridge. i understand that the railway line was not damaged, only the road lane was affected, uh, from your point of view . but what is the short-term or long-term effect of today's attack on the crimean bridge? it will affect the logistics and supply of all the necessary military infrastructure there for the russian troops in southern ukraine, well , 25% of the cargo that goes to crimea and then from crimea goes to the south of ukraine. well, i mean
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the military, they are supplied through the crimean bridge. it means that most of it was supplied through that er, it means the corridor that now connects the krasnodar region with the crimea, and because of the fact that this road surface is damaged, and i think that it will take at least a few weeks to repair it, and maybe even more months, the road will be blocked over the crimean bridge, that is, everything that is being transported is transported by road transport, it will take a longer route to the crimea through the corridor, and the road there is also limited because the bridge over chongar was also closed it was damaged a few weeks ago and there too. now there is no traffic , but the presence of this railway branch
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, in general, it allows the enemy to see such and such trains of the railway to deliver to the crimea and unload and then transfer this equipment in the occupied south of our country and use it on the defensive lines against our troops, so i can somehow make an assumption there that this is a logistical artery, it will be, well, it will be extended, because the russians are now trying to use these alternative means of delivery, for example , they are using amphibious ships now to transport trucks through the kerch strait, but
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they are still able to transfer some part of the cargo there through the crimean bridge , although, uh, this is the road connection, now there, uh, it is stopped, actually, on the road connection, i will say for our audience, for understanding , that they are transmitting. occupied crimea and kherson oblast have experienced multi-kilometer traffic jams . and it is reported that traffic jams on the section to crimea from melitopol now reach from 4 to 6 km, and traffic jams have also formed on the kerch ferry crossing in the direction of crimea to of the krasnodar region. here is the news as of now. you said that from your point of view the attacks will continue. today was the statement of deputy prime minister mykhailo fedorov. he said that the crimean bridge was destroyed by naval drones and he promised to increase their production. and what kind of weapon is this?
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ukraine used to use the media and wrote that it was possible that these same drones were used to attack the sevastopol bay, and to what extent, from your point of view, does ukraine have the potential to continue using such weapons. do you have any ideas, well, according to the writing, i can’t say anything, i think that this information is closed and it should be closed, but i think that we have several types of these types of drones, let’s say shock drones, these are kamikaze drones that can make impressions of targets and as for ships, yes, it is possible and different structures located on the sea, such as, for example, this bridge and the crimean bridge and well, that is what we see now, it is approaching the frigate
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admiral makarov, and on board this drone there were about 60 e- e kilograms of explosives and that allows you to damage the ship with such a crack acs as a frigate, but it is difficult to destroy it, what we saw this morning, rather at night , well, let's say from the nature of the explosions, we can say that there were several hundred kilograms of explosives on board, and well, the force of the high-explosive explosion caused the consequences that we saw behind this with the road surface, give it to from our southern coast to the crimean bridge well, it is possible because there this distance is about 500 km, about 300 nautical miles
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. i think that the energy capacity of this a drone, it allows it. as for the drones themselves, they have the maximum use of technologies that are used in the civilian civilian industry, that is , there are engines and navigation and sensors, and the only thing there is military. i understand that it is precisely combat part of the explosives. thanks to this, their production is sufficient. well, quite quickly . i think that, in general, the number in our armed forces is increasing, especially since there were initiatives that supported this
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project, let's say materially and financially. i think that there is support there, and well, modern technologies, too, if you look more closely at today 's detonation, from your point of view, what was the goal of this strike , if to completely destroy this supply chain, then hmm, the goal was not achieved , because basically, as far as i understand, russia supplies everything there the necessary equipment, military equipment, the railway, the railway was not destroyed, and perhaps the price could not be achieved, or perhaps such a goal was not set from the very beginning, but simply the goal was to cause some certain moral and psychological damage, or what can you say? well, the moral psychological school. i think that this is not the main task, but to scare. maybe they should run away. you know, this will happen. i think that our structure is what the military understands. the main task was to cut the logistical artery that
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connects the crimea and the krasnodar territory. it is really true. in part, the point is that the enemy is also a countermeasure. you understand that this bridge is quite well guarded. there is a serious division of the guard. if you look at the footage that was shot at night with the explosions, you you will see a lot of such small e-e shots, these are s- shots from small arms, large-caliber machine guns, maybe also anti-aircraft guns, they countered the zillerons when they were approaching, maybe at the end of their trajectory, maybe this caused the fact that the explosion just came under the e- well, it's an underpass, not under this one, but a railway one, oh, well, i can simply predict that in accordance with
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the operational needs , a counteroffensive operation will continue to have some kind of influence on this object. regarding this main artery of the railway supply of military equipment to the territory of the crimea, the occupying authorities call on the civilian population of cars , as far as i understand it, to use the so-called alternative routes to drive through berdyansk , melitopol-mariupol, if in reality the ukrainian military will succeed in completely destroying this crimean bridge and cutting off the supply routes ah, and from your point of view , to what extent can these so-called alternative routes, alternative routes, replace
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the crimean bridge? we remember, for example, how well for example, in the 14th year, when the russians occupied the crimea, they only had one such way, and it was semi-legal, as they brought in their troops at the initial stage of the occupation of the crimea, it was their military ships, landing ships, and they loaded them with personal equipment warehouse in novorossiysk and then transported to sevastopol, where they were unloaded, that is, if we succeed, for example, in this corridor, it means freeing it from the russian occupation and, well , let's say neutralizing the crimean bridge and the road-railway connection, then
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in fact, only the sea route remains. well, it is possible by air, and also because now we know that a small part of cargo and personnel are delivered to the airports of crimea also by airplanes . i think that it is possible somewhere no more than 5%, and maybe even less , that is, this is the capacity of their logistics, it will be very, very unsatisfactory , we heard you, thank you very much andriy ryzhenko captain of the first rank of the reserve deputy chief of staff of the navy of the armed forces of ukraine 2004-2020, we talked about the consequences of the attack on the crimean bridge, thank you very much. well , let's open another topic about which a lot of people have been talking about in recent days and even weeks , including in social networks, what is appropriate and what is not
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it is appropriate to spend state money during the war, despite the fact that state money does not exist. ukrainian taxpayers have money , that is, our money, which we pay to the state in the form of taxes. well , the state then distributes it according to its purpose and according to the needs, the question is how justified are these or other needs during the war? well, for example, in volyn , a scandal recently broke out around the stadium, for the repair of which the authorities of the kivertsi district center spent, decided to spend 145 million uah. others say that it is not the right time because there is a war in the country, the mayor convinced that he is doing this , including for the military who will return from the front, but the arguments did not work and after publicity, the tender was canceled, another example the state tv channel dom plans to spend uah 14 million on shooting new year's comedies, this is specifically reported by our money with reference to the data in the prozoro system. we are currently talking about two new year's comedy series with working
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titles in the sanatorium nezabudka and the call sign santa . open to open some say that the authorities worry about ukrainians and think about their leisure time during the new year holidays , others say that this money could be spent on drones, which ukrainians badly need army well, on july 13, the verkhovna rada allocated more than uah 570 million for the completion of the national museum of the holodomor of genocide. 312 deputies pressed for the news. it also caused a lively discussion in ukrainian society. museums are allegedly really needed. but is it appropriate to spend such money now, when the needs of the front are not closed? well for example, as oleg simoros comments, a veteran of the armed forces of ukraine. of course, i understand everything . commemorating the victims of the holodomor is important and correct, as is the construction of a museum, but i am very
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sorry. half a billion can be allocated in a warring country, can the armed forces of ukraine be fully equipped with drones, cars, means of communication and anti-drone guns , what the hell is going on on one and a half thousand kilometers of the active front, heavy battles are taking place, and they are throwing away insane amounts of money at museums. i simply have no words, these funds could save more than one life and so if the guys don't stand up, then you won't have a place to build a museum, what is appropriate , categorically inappropriate to spend the money of ukrainian taxpayers during the war , we will talk further join the broadcast nikita indulges people's deputy, servant of the people, head of the committee on humanitarian information policy good evening good evening let's start with the holodomor museum. the verkhovna rada has allocated more than uah 500 million for the completion of this complex. this was the idea and what were the arguments
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for it, i will start a little differently, i am surprised that in the second year of a full-scale war, people and journalists obviously do not understand that this money is not ours at all and belongs to our payers taxes, because all our money that we collect, with the exception of local budgets, goes entirely to the front, this is money from international macro-financial assistance, other money we have for all our uh, so to speak, civilian expenses are simply absent, and the audience and listeners should know about this and be reminded and so on, that is, the financial aid that comes to us is undoubtedly from european taxpayers, it is signed, it is reconciled , which means that our donors know perfectly well what ukraine spends every penny on. and by the way
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, not a single penny of this money can go to needs of the front. i think that our media people should remind the ukrainian audience about this. no drone or any other military purchase can be made with this money, and this has been known for a very long time . everything that we collect and where to the front, everything that goes to the front from international donors goes to civilian needs and civilian expenses, uh, that means this money, which should be directed to the completion of the first phase of the first phase of the holodomor museum, they are also taken from international macro-financial assistance and it it was definitely agreed with our partners, they were used. those money that are simply in other directions will not have time. well, no, no, they will not have time to work or be spent there until the end of the year. how did you find this money ?
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it was very difficult. there was none, because this year, i will remind you of the 90s, we constantly ask all the parliaments of all democratic countries to recognize the famine, have there already been 33 countries that have done it, we have no moral right if we have the money which we found did not make its contribution to this terrible tragedy until the 1990s. did i understand correctly that ukraine has 500 million uah and where did this money come from ? they insisted that it should only be for the museum . did you just say that? i misunderstood you. you will not misunderstand. we have a list of international macro-financial assistance for various directions. in some directions, the money that was deposited there could not be spent
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. well, we don't have time. i emphasize again, that's why we looked at the ministry of finance, of course we looked at where we have some here, a little money, here, here . in order for us to find this necessary amount, we determined what we can do. in fact, there is a larger amount there, such as the lithuanian debt and simply the builders who are building this object. for many years, they agreed to wait for the payment and there is actually more money, well, it is not so important, it is important that we notified the ministry of finance. thank you, they notified this money from various programs and agreed with international partners and in this way. so we have an amount that we can spend on the holodomor museum. they said again that the year of the 90s was the anniversary of this tragedy, which we ask and demand that all countries of the world recognize it as genocide. how can we afford not to do anything in
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year of the 90s well, first of all, i want to tell the country to start spending money on the front for the war, but thousands, tens of thousands , hundreds of thousands of ukrainians have lost their homes, and many of them are still without a roof over their heads, and obviously these remarks from from representatives of ukrainian society and from ordinary people in social networks, they also say that some basic needs of people are not covered due to the war, and the government spends such a lot of money on the museum. i think that it is not the government that spends, but constantly the majority of the parliament decided so, the truth is that it is not the government, but the entire composition of the ukrainian parliament, you are a representative of the legislative branch of government, for one minute the ukrainian legislative highest body decided with a constitutional composition of 314 votes. you said it yourself. that is
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, this is the decision of the national the legislative body, not the government, as you say, what does it mean to restore damaged housing , there is definitely money for it, but you don’t ask yourself why we might be late somewhere, and because we now have half-shifts in the construction crews because everyone is at the front how many builders do we have now? how many builders do we have now? how many builders? factories to produce building materials and what are the possibilities to get people to work now? how many people are there now? no, wait, we're talking about ep victors now.
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i remain very small right now, so when someone says that it was possible to buy there well, i am already silent about drones because drones cannot be bought and if someone says that it was possible to spend there somewhere else, you can spend even more and how much can you learn because you can do it, that is, i spoke today with your colleague from the faction, the voice of yaroslav yurchyshyn , he has a different opinion. he believes that the parliament made a mistake with this decision, despite the fact that he himself also voted for this decision, but he says that against the background of the war, this was a mistake. allow me one more question, which is also related to your committee and your activities. well , 14 million for entertaining new year's tv series, this is also the tv channel dom, this is also such a necessity , and only there you could spend money too and is this with the money of ukrainian taxpayers? is it also with the money of foreign donors? it is financed at home, in fact yes. well, of course, i will say it again. i repeat new year's, it is

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