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and the interesting thing in the program is the verdict by serhiy rudenko from monday to friday at 8:00 p.m. repeat at 12:10 a.m. the worldview program reminds me of the name vasyl zima and now i am not talking about why our crimea is somehow conquered and lost crimea crimean mania russia conversations of the next guest and this is oleksiy mustafin, he is a media manager , a writer, a historian, a journalist, a pencil case, everyone, i greet you. good afternoon. we discussed a lot with the previous guest and the historian, and i will ask you this question, maybe now you will give a clear answer to it or is close to what is close to the truth, because everything is relatively true in this life. and why is crimea so important for russia only as a military base? are there any other points that may be invisible or incomprehensible to the usual logic of war or politics or economics, something that does not allow

they can get rid of it, as they say. no, the russian air force, well, actually, the world has only two motives that keep crimea. in russia's field of vision, so to speak, it is definitely strategic control over the black sea, and definitely the entire ideological system is built on this, and its you can call putin, this is nostalgia for the soviet times, when you could go to crimea on vacation, there are two main motives, that is, the first motive is a justification for ordinary russians , but in fact there is no sacredness in

crimea. - so to speak, in the orthodox russian tradition, it is not critical to treat it, but even in the form it was in the russian empire , of course, not first of all, because in soviet times , only the most critical moment was mentioned about orthodoxy and then in russian history we see that there is a tradition of pilgrimage, for example, pilgrims went to kyiv, hunters went to jerusalem, so that even if they once went to the crimea, such a thing has never been found in the sources, not in popular literature. that is, these are only fictional reasons in order to somehow justify this annexation not only with military, military-strategic considerations, the attempt of which took place in the 14th

year. well, that's why everything is easier for you , partkapei, modern kerch, 7th century bc, so long ago, there are so many already in the 9th century if we also take our era, well, 8-10 , and then people will say, but you are crimean tatars , yes, in any case, tatars are not crimean , but at any time you are closer to understanding , and they will say and why did you decide for yourself that these are the crimean tatars or there are other tatars who will live there, and why is this your crimea ? look, there were greeks there; achilles was running on snake island and on the tendriv spit of the kherson region , there were turks, because he was a grandfather in general, a sign when it was a why did you decide that you are the chicken people there and not some taurus there conditional or anyone else please answer this question. i haven't seen people who can

represent tavria in the modern world, but the question is, do you know the idea that was imposed that the turks , conditionally speaking, came to the crimea almost with the mongols, well, it was constantly imposed, in fact, the turks were already in the crimea, well, at least during the time of the great migration of peoples, that is, they are at least as old as the inhabitants of these territories as the slavs who live there it is strange that this is the first point, if we talk about the formation of nations, the formation of a nation, how ukrainians are actually the heirs and successors of those generations who formed the culture of our country for thousands of years within the boundaries

of which it is a country that exists internationally recognized ukrainians are the descendants of all these cultures of not only slavic and even turkic pechenegs, it is not an imagination that they will be there through tests, as the students say, but in fact it is a culture that has absorbed everything in ukrainian culture, also cossack culture, it is also a certain steppe and even those words that are in the e-e lexicon of the cossack kish, i don't know what else there is kurin e-e chieftain, these are turkic words and they appeared in the ukrainian language not because they were borrowed, because the cossacks are the heirs, it is to drive the same way and e -e leader of the population of the indigenous population of the crimean peninsula, they are the heirs not only of the turkic peoples

who once again lived in this territory from ancient times , but also of those peoples who lived in their entirety , including the same greeks who founded the politicians and chersonesus, although there were greeks, it is necessary in this territory but again, in crimea, there was a so-called melting pot there, it is usually said about america, but uh, the leader is also a descendant of the players and goths and khazars and polyvts who lived in this territory, well actually uh, the crimean language is so to speak the same language well, of course, historically it has not changed, but in fact it is also the language spoken by the polovtsians and the process is evidenced by the written sources of the same, the so-called polovtsian code, it is said that the language

of the polovtsy is tatar, so again it is an idea that there were some people and then they came others displaced these people and said that it was ours , this was an explanation of what was happening. and to a certain extent, it was the russians who extrapolated their own behavior to others. they are really behind in crimea and in the south of ukraine, and when they came, they began to destroy what existed there before them for centuries, and therefore it is easiest to explain this behavior for themselves and for the world around them by the fact that everyone did the same to them as they did. well, we can see this on the example even from this war when they begin to attribute their own crimes or similar criminal to invent er in those who are victims of their aggression, we can see it clearly, but simply

in the history of crimea, this actually happened and er , the whole time when er, russia was in crimea we have 10 minutes and i will have three questions i have somewhere let's play for two or three minutes and i'll have time, you say, as you asked, i'll prove that i'm going to limit myself a little now so that i'll have time, uh , you know, after i partially destroyed kerch, of course, this kerch bridge in russia , they said that's the way it should be capture odessa first of all to odessa in order to cut off the road to the sea for the ukrainians, because as long as the ukrainians have access to the black sea, the crimea is in danger, this is the first fear, and i will ask here. and this story imposed by the russians that it will not be possible to liberate the crimea by military means. is this really true or do they think so they insist that, god forbid, someone dares to free him - trying to free him by military means may be difficult , please. well, as a person who is interested in this history, i must say that crimea was captured

very often by military means and in most cases cases were not even accompanied by large, i don’t know, combat forces, so there were several sieges of sevastopol, but again , they ended in favor of those who were advancing, whether they were the troops of the allies in the crimean war or the wehrmacht at the beginning of the soviet-german war or the red army after that, that is, in fact, from a military point of view, this conversation about the aircraft carrier does not fall into this conversation, they are not just conversations, the second point to draw attention to is that, of course, it is better that they release him without restraint, or even under pressure circumstances like this happened from kherson, for example, but again, we do not have a choice to liberate or not to liberate crimea, we have a choice which methods we use to liberate it, and it is obvious that ukraine will be forced to do it

as it will be more effective if there are fewer victims , but besides it will return to the control of ukraine , who will be against and the third point is their conversations. they talked a lot about the red lines in uh during this war and especially during the last uh last year and a half, but we see that all this is rather uh hm so to speak mantras than real things if ukraine can, well, the ukrainian armed forces will be suitable. in words, repeat the russians and we can say, repeat in the 18th year of the unr army, led by trapachyna, who forced it. it actually liberated your countries

, well, it’s just that there was no margin of safety, then they held it, because there were also wrangelia, then there the troops are quite specific allies in ukraine and in fact forced the ukrainians to leave crimea and then lost , he investigated because there was still a world war during these events, but again, this is another example that in addition to being released by military means and released and now the important question is that we will be possessed. i also believe and that crimea will know this. such a prey that falls out of the claws of a dead double-headed eagle, that it will be possible to finish it even before we reach the crimea, again, crimea simply, god willing , will fall with such i so want to believe because i know that it is a lot of blood and a lot of victims of the ukrainian army, which is very difficult and impossible to restore, but i know that we are possessed in crimea and

ecologically, economically, to a lesser extent, the historical russians are driving the christians kherson tavriyskyi , a lot of ecstasy was exported at the beginning, now it is exported, it is exported, let's say well, it's as simple as that. this is a case in point example but here is the hm aivazovsky museum in feodosia, a beautiful museum . there are also a number of museums that they do not know that you have determined. that they will remain because they simply spoiled him with their restoration when he wrote the bakhchisarai fountain, now the descendants have come and that means they are doing completely different things . tell me, please. on minimalka agriculture on minimalka e-e ecology is so-so and prospects and historically it will also be significantly drained what to do with this what are we obsessed with doing as they say well, so to

speak, this is not a reason to refuse that we understood what to do with it, because they say we will sow a pole with a canopy. i have a medical degree very well, but we will not sow all the fields in the crimea , well, we must say real things , this must be so that they can do with the kakhov dam, then we have the whole south and to the north of the crimea, there are big problems with agriculture, because a lot of these miliorative systems were built on this, but now they won’t be, and even if we quickly free these territories , it will be very difficult to restore them and it will take some time. definitely this. well, we see that the russian occupation is all kinds of catastrophes, starting with a demographic catastrophe with the extermination of people, the destruction of people, and ending with ecological catastrophes. it will not be easy in crimea. we must be aware of this , but this is our land. we must restore it, and i

hope that ours will too. partners will understand that the most important thing is to create opportunities for this free development, to ensure the rights of people for whom crimea is their homeland. i think that i will deal with the rest of this differently. eh, the current policy of turkey. but i think that it is also interested in the revival of crimea. after all, there are many descendants of crimean guitars living in turkey, who at one time were forced to leave under the pressure of the russian authorities . in addition, i think that it will not be easy, but the most important thing is that he be released and so that there was a security system that allows the free development of this territory, and then the people, in the end , the crimean tatars and ukrainians have proven more than once that we and what we are given the opportunity to do, we

do and restore and achieve results although lord cardigan lost part of his cavalry there in this crazy attack in the crimea, which i felt did not lead, but in principle the british got the balaclava even there they started the railway , something should be done in them. changed a lot of let's say things that appeared only during the crimean war, this is also our system of nurses and operations under anesthesia, again the first railway on the territory of ukraine actually then somehow, if i'm not mistaken, in the crimean yes, that is, from both sides. by the way, but the main thing about the allies at that time was that they eventually left crimea for russia and believed the promises of the russian authorities, but when they believed, as soon as the situation was convenient,

the tsar said that they are not theirs anymore, these conditions and treaties no longer limit them. after several decades, the russians stood under the state. this is a mistake that was made during the crimean war . compromises with russia at the expense of territory are not good for anything. i hope that this time these errors led they will take into account in the end very briefly. now, as a tv manager, i am not telling you about politics, because for example , but they would say uh. argue your opinion or argue for our viewers what crimea should be legally, how crimea should be legally organized as an autonomy as a region of ukraine i don't know if there is any other option, as there are no other options for sure right now, so that you would suggest what crimea should be like in order for it to be, first of all, politically stable as part of ukraine, after its

release, i am leaving those factors which we have now, we see that the main support in ukraine in the crimea is which remly and we have to recognize everything and in general well , it is not ethical to say that it is good. you don't know, wait, it's not on time , and so on. well, ukraine should recognize crimea as the homeland of ukrainian deputies, how should it be formalized there in the form of national autonomy? well, actually, according to the constitution, crimea now has autonomy, but it is national. or in some other way or not at all, do not define there, conditionally speaking, do not call it an autonomous republic, because it causes some disputes there, but it must be recognized that this is the homeland of the crimean tatars and they

have the opportunity there, they must have the opportunity to develop their own identity , culture , language and to have all political rights and, again, the right to self-government is correct in the very definition, but unconditionally. what kind of border, who found something on the street at all, concluded with ukrainian airfields and the powerful ukrainian black sea fleet, with bases all over the country, with their own, it is desirable to return again, we mentioned the crimean war, that is one of the conditions after the crimean war that russia does not have the right on the black heavy fleet in the territory , well, in the water area of ​​the black sea, this is an excellent norm. i think that it was very good for further ensuring security

. sorry for the tautology in this region, because we we see that the black sea fleet of russia is nothing but trouble, thank you very much, mr. oleksiy oleksiy mostafin was with us, a historian, a manager - a journalist and a writer, you know i will say at the very end, one year i remember the video when the russians annexed crimea, crimea was captured in 2014 by one of the ukrainian military he refused to go over to the side of the russian army, to serve in the russian army, he served in the crimea as a ukrainian soldier. well, then he was not beaten or shot for that, they were just sinners, he says i will not go with you, you know i will go to ukraine they they say and why well, we took our crimea, he says, and you will lose it anyway. and he said this calmly, the video began to tear the russians a little , he says to everyone, well, why are we going to lose it, and because it is not yours, you took it unfairly, and then this ukrainian military man left, the russians stood for a long time and so somewhere something was grinding in their hearts, because the russians actually understand that this is not their crimea, as long as they did not scream our crimea, it is not their crimea and not god, as usyk said, it belongs to the crimean tatars, and it has to be

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