[000:00:00;00] three forces in this direction, well, the artillery, when it has worked, it must very quickly leave the place from which it was working, or you can get hit, the answer is that we manage to do it very quickly when it starts working, and they, well, you know, they even, as they say, lost their fear in they had a very big advantage in artillery, they were just browsing there for some days, a year ago it reached 80,000 shots per day, this is a large number of crazy, crazy tornado of fire, this is what they did and they decided that they could do anything they are not afraid of anything, but now in the counter-battery fight, we outnumber them, as they say, in one gate, by a ratio of one to 10. when they start working like an artery, we very quickly find out where she is shooting from and very quickly make responses

taking into account that we have our own artillery, it is more accurate, well, exactly, than the enemy's artillery, then 25-30 units of e-e artillery systems of christians per day, this is a very large number, in the month of june, it was more than 600 in this place, i think the numbers will be no less than six - 600 years, well, that is, well, let's talk about the kop mask , the direction was concentrated there, 800 tables of artillerymen were concentrated, approximately, well, plus or minus, if we can destroy such a number in a month and a half, it means that this is a powerful , powerful strike on the artillery of the enemy, well, the cossack process, their teams 4/8 m popov that they will lose to the fund in the battery fight he even wrote yesterday whether they reported a note to or to our gucha and on gerasim they some leaders of the russian armed forces, for which they accused him of being in a panic mood and they sent him somewhere to the front line there, he was sent at all, that is, yes, yes, more than

that, popovets and the 58th brigade , commanded by popov. this is a russian general standing in our work area, he is lower than orichova, so if can you explain to me how the western part of the zaporizhzhia region is exactly where the ukrainian offensive is taking place, where it was very difficult to advance, or are they showing us this map to work , our troops are advancing on minefields and that's it. and ot see as a result the russian commander they say that the russian army is defending very well there. but it is even more interesting that the commander of the russian army complains from there, as a result, he is sent to syria and the same story. the hetman basically told us how it is happening in the berdyan direction, this is in the area of ​​staro majorka, the old mill

where exactly was this offensive when the russians tried to advance and their artillery was actually stolen in this way and quite a lot was destroyed, if you say in general, victor is on our southern front. how would you like it characterized this situation, well, in addition to the fact that we have already discussed a little about the fight against smuggling, in principle, well, here it turns out that, well, we are outnumbered, then, well, the hetman said the prokotsvitcent one to ten - this does not mean that we have one to ten guns, this means that one to 10 hits, that is, there may be fewer guns, but their effectiveness is much higher , viktor, please, a somewhat asymmetric fight , because on the one hand, we have much more effective artillery in terms of a whole range of factors

, starting from technical and ending big but there is a problem in russia even before i noticed the rain, i’m not still working as a cabal, and it created such asymmetric situations, we said absolutely correctly, for example , the commander-in-chief when he said that the americans , for example, in general, the ato country in such a situation would not even try to advance because it has there are no guarantees of superiority in the air, and because of the high risk, ours are attacking, ours are trying to knock out first of all the russian artillery, the russian formations, and the russian command formation, and in principle, it succeeds more or less effectively, but unfortunately it gives an opportunity for individual politicians, even politicians in the west, to talk about the fact that the counteroffensive is not successful , because when they talk about the counteroffensive, they look at the map, not at the statistics of losses , not at the statistics of the losses of equipment, in particular, not at how we are pacifying them, but at how we

push forward and forward specifically, in the southern direction, we are making extreme progress, and this advance is extremely necessary, they are elements of the strategy, it should be so , but it is not something that can be sold, let’s say, to some audience as a quick counter. kharkov near kharkov, it was very cool to convey it in the form of a map with arrows on it, in principle, under kherson too . and now it is impossible to sell it like that, now you just have to explain every time that the idea is not to try to reach the sea of ​​azov in one day, but to try to destroy it to overcome the marshes with russian equipment and personnel in terms of equipment for the first time and it is not our fault that it follows exactly such a scheme and this is the result of the fact that we do not have, for example, adequate defense and aviation support and who is to blame for this

this is a big question. well, i’ll allow myself two trailers here. your comment is absolutely correct, and what’s more. actually, the commander-in-chief was diligent and said that if you want to attack more vividly, you need to have an advantage in aviation, an advantage in air defense, and then you can show more vividly, but if and my second remark concerns the fact that exactly the same thing was said to us last year exactly at this same time in the summer that something was going to affect kherson , oh no, not as it should be and how it ended, it ended with a regrouping a russian from kherson, that's why you know brightness and effectiveness, the sentence may be a little bit different, and secondly, you need to understand that you are fighting with the weapons that you have . accordingly, there should be tactics and strategy for what is being done, let's now go to a small advertisement to continue our conversation in a couple of minutes, we will continue it and we will talk about the attempts of the russians to attack them, after all, eh, on eh crime

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rudenko, from monday to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10 , we continue our review of the chronicle of the war. what happened to us in the direction of kupyansk talimana, uh, in the direction of kupyansk and limana , russian troops, well, we can say that for a week, they have been advancing so powerfully, and they have gathered quite serious forces there. well, actually, about this one let's talk. let's continue the conversation. this is oleksiy hetman, a reserve major

, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, viktor treugov, a major of the armed forces of ukraine and a journalist, and oleksandr hanushchyn , a serviceman of the armed forces of the ukrainian armed forces, a major of the 103rd brigade of territorial defense and a deputy of lviv joined us. oblast councilors, i congratulate you once again, whom i haven't seen, who joined , oleksandr, let's start with you. let's start with you. let's say that the russians have stepped up their offensive on kupyansk on lyman, what are we talking about, what exactly are they doing, that is in what way are they advancing ? what are they doing during this offensive ? never left plans to try for

themselves to push it from north to south along the left bank of the river scyll, this is when we speak of kupyansk and finally when we speak of eleman, the russians always made attempts from the flint through the forests to improve their position to break through to the estuary and in this way the russian military leaders actually how on the map they tried to draw arrows for me , as it were, to leave the left bank of the oskil river , close their positions with water to the northern end, and they advanced not much, but recently, when they built up an additional a reserve at the expense of those who came to them from belarus, they really threaten serious problems in the event that they break through our defense line somewhere, but to talk about the fact that we have to flee for schools or for siverskyi donetsk, it is still very, very early.

in yentorsk, where they wanted very much, but it is about the fact that they concentrated large enough forces , there it is about well, there they called 100,000 er military , there are even more, they even pulled up some reserves, and it was also about the fact that they concentrated there is enough armored vehicles, that is, there was talk of 950 tanks, something like that, oleksandr, is the participation of these tank forces noticeable at all, that is, how are the next ones going? that is, the tactics of the battle itself are interesting , so far this is an increase in artillery fire and very modest successes. the grouping in the part of two villages from two years to the south and one village in the direction from the matchmaker, i.e. how about such a grouping very , very modestly, not using it, it remained somewhere in the reserve, that is, it is true

, but if we are talking about the option that all ukrainian viewers are used to comparing it with bachmouth, at least it hasn't started yet and it's not on time, as far as we know , they are also participating in all the storm zetas and such storm forces , including those equipped with prisoners. such assaults were like in the area of ​​bakhmut when they launch uh-uh groups uh-huh, these assaults . is it somehow different after all? and actually i emphasize this. that is , the nomenclature of the russian army there is almost 21 brigades of different regiments combined into their so-called group troops and the western center are among them stormzit, but we haven’t come to the tactics of how it was in bakhmut yet, and i think that if they have such plans, then this is what lies ahead. please tell

me, mr. oleksandr. how do you evaluate these efforts in general ? well, this is a more strategic thing, or do we still have to wait for another blow from a bigger one? well, i told them earlier that it was considered that let's improve the situation, let's go from the north of russia and reach the estuary, close the mouths of the oskil-siversky donets rivers, a winning situation for ourselves. this was obviously the plans of january when they began to actively try themselves in the kupyan direction. and as for the current plans, i think so. they are trying to create an opportunity to transfer reserves from under the bahmut here on the one hand, and on the other hand to cover up their failures in the south, they say, see ukrainians are advancing in the south

. and we will advance from east to west. it is clear . yes, and i want to include other guests if you have the opportunity to stay with us for a little longer. so well distracting, frightening maneuver, i would also like to hear your opinion on this, but should we expect any more actions by the russians? do they have such opportunities? hit harder there, what can we expect in this area the letter e let's e p oleksiy p victor tell it in turn, mr. oleksiy, we will start in any case, there will be hits because well, in this way they are trying to concentrate there well, roughly there were 130

000 there are about two units of heavy equipment, about 800 artillery barrels, that’s about how much you have concentrated there, for sure we can’t cross, about how much equipment is concentrated there, of course in order to somehow stop or make impossible our offensive action in the south, they will advance there in the north, well conditionally in the north is our front line. do they have a task to get out of yumu slavyansk, or bukinfo ? is this an attempt to really go to this border to occupy them, to regain control of these places, or is this just an attempt to distract, well, in any case, it distracts our force, and in any case , we will have to, if they strengthen, and then, er , they will add additional reserves that they have left there before these offensive actions. we will have to strengthen our grouping there

so that they don't give them the opportunity to seriously ask what the purpose is, it's hard to say, it's for sure that it's at least an active defense and an attempt to distract our troops from offensive actions in the south. as far as i understand , it's another 10 km to kupyansk it is very far and in principles are just as broken, it's not a close road , to put it mildly, and i meant their ideas. i'm just clarifying for the audience so that they understand that the victory is on your side, viktor . well, from your point of view . what is the purpose of this summer company , or not? i think that this strike is some kind of distraction, simply because the structure of the advancing group is not very accessible in general, there are not many

tanks there, mostly motorized infantry and somehow it looks strange that the motorized infantry are sitting on a well-prepared position and it really looks more like an attempt to tie up certain of our units with a battle, or an attempt to create a threat to kupyansk, with the fact that we actually did not advance so actively. in other directions, it was absolutely clear what the russians will try to do something like that is logical for their situation. and they have a problem with technology, but they don't have a problem with people, so they actually implement this opportunity in another direction . well, i don't think that anything will come of it for them. not because i'm here but a hat engaged in shelling, namely because they have to advance on two positions, it seems to me that it is not there, but it can really answer a certain part of our armed forces and it can serve as an additional factor in slowing down our offensive, which is what they hope for. well, there is more the purely informational factor is that they show that here

we are not just uh, actually thermo-ukrainian strikes are not just here that we explode together, all in formations, and we also go on attacks, how well done to him. in fact, the fact is that they are not really they walk a lot and actually stand in this attack, well, that’s another matter, and in this regard, what is such a more desirable reinforcement, people from our side, there are drones, artillery, that is, what could it be to make it easier to defend? these attempts of russian movements in these directions, in any direction , limansky, bakhmutsky, avdiivsky, voligarsky, or two southern directions, and the main factor is the artillery factor, more accurate western ammunition, more losses in

russian logistics, fewer attempts to advance the line has been formed here for a long time, there are river obstacles, it’s somewhere around 30-40 percent, as i understand it, there is a track , an embankment, it’s just a relief, and there is something that is formed in the online mode, in the mode of battles, it is directly in the north near the kubanska, and therefore any reinforcement artillery, it is clear that the hippies are nuclear, and they will be absolutely not superfluous, it is not necessary to understand that at one time this group, which actually escaped from kharkiv, had the task of passing from izyum, as the most extreme point of their base, in the direction of berdyansk, and to surround and take all the armed forces of ukraine the kramatorsk group was standing at that moment, and our defenders are under lysichansk, etc., and in the bag. that is, this group fled and was somewhat formed , prepared by mobs. the last time it was a few days ago

, there was a big arrival from belarus, and now the russian military leaders are living in front of them . i do not know which directorate will be the main one. most likely from flintlocks, because there are still more of them there, but not in kupyansk, as i said, they have been trying to find themselves since january, and therefore artillery ammunition, its ability to shoot will be very, very much, i do not know from what you they said, i understand that after all, we expect some more waves of their next eh and eh , this is due to the fact that in addition to the force that is there on the first line, there are certain reserves on the second line of the russians who have not yet been involved. as i understand it so especially strong, and if you say it from this point of view, tell me how you evaluate it as possible. well, while you wait , that is, this is also the case, you know, well, how to say it will pose a question, but alexander, if

the russians dare to do some more use of force, or is it possible, well, except for deterrence of the russian offensive, our forces can still use this to take some counteroffensive actions in this direction . is this not yet discussed? look, i cannot disclose military secrets of the period that took place before the notification of the russian offensive. but i will say that the line formed it has been for a long time. believe me, both sides have been testing their strength, that is why the russians have succeeded in gaining time, if they say so, for such a group. well , they introduced several tens of thousands of mobiks in addition, but on 120 km of the front and 80 or 90,000 this is a very serious army as such a group is more than modest , therefore i do not expect in the near future any significant movements of the line that

formed here and after the kharkiv counteroffensive, which would change and be noticeable in the same dibstate or would affect some operational the situation , as i have already said , would be caused by the retreat of the factory, etc., i understand, thank you, thank you, mr. oleksandr. with the smallest uh, well, with some such difficulties, we hope that everything will be fine here, but i also want our guests to answer such a question . in the area they are talking about something in the area of ​​some southern fronts and then something, they will do something . how do you evaluate the possibility of such

a story, mr. oleksiy, then viktor, let's take turns trying to evaluate this idea, well, you know how they joke, promising does not mean to get married, they are constantly talking about what they are doing now, but a little more, they will do so in a very powerful way. it seems to me that , taking into account the table, these are the means that i now have with the russians completely throughout, starting from the openness of the lyman direction to, well, even to, er, kharkiv, oh in the direction of kherson, where were there gifts, well, along this arc, little avdiivka, they don’t have the power to do something like that, and they simply don’t do it because they cling to it, they don’t expect anything, they do the maximum of what they well, there is only one way to remove part of the whiskey somewhere from the front line , move it to another front line, to another , more precisely, part of the front, and try

to take some further actions there. well, if their grouping is strengthened somewhere here then somewhere it will weaken, so you know. well, they can tell you anything, but that does not mean that it is true. the main thing is to move in a small direction and there to make some definite progress without sparing anything, but once again they do not have the strength for this that they can attract from their body, they can remove it. well, if they removed it somewhere, well, they directed it somewhere. well, let it advance, it will. then we will cut off this promotion. they can advance only the nodes in the science of a narrow area, but somewhere they will remove it, close to where we will direct our bees , viktor jsc, as assessed that this is the possibility of prospects, that is simply their expectation that when these days some will start in other areas, and that they will try to interfere in this way

. it seems to me that you are sitting on the initiative now completely for the ukrainians, er, and the russians can except to hope for some kind of situational response to this or that problem in the ukrainian language in one or another direction , but i knew that, after all, it is their not hoping that something might work out in us, not a stage . there is nothing for them to hope for simply because we keep the initiative, we impose our own er battle where we want it and not where they want it and in parallel we have the opportunity to express their infrastructure on well if well not the whole depth then almost not the whole depth as once again, the attack on the old crimea showed. the old crimea is very deep, and there it is probably necessary to erect a separate monument for the lives of those who actually allowed what struck him, because there it was necessary to approach the lbs very closely under

these conditions. i think that the russians for something with the planned frequency to stand by inertia in the hope that you will go for something yes, we have good news, the bad news is that actually we still have to overcome a very large number of sympathizers hmm well, it is not that bad, but i do not see it's enough narrow such and such sections of the front do not remove their reserves. they do not transfer them to some other place, that is, on the one hand, it seems that if they do not use them, on the other hand, it is still dangerous, and i guess it will depend on what the course will be next, will they have to change their plans? will they do something there? well, this will show the situation, which is quite difficult . thank you, thank you for joining us. thank you, victor tregubov. thank

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