[000:00:00;00] oh, ukrainian society and in general as a civilized part of the world we never react to russia's annexation of this territory, for ukraine this is the experience and the initial construction of statehood during the times of the ukrainian people's republic and the ukrainian state of hetman skoropadskyi , let me remind you that hetman skoropadskyi wrote in his memoirs back in the 19th year that ukraine without crimea is like a body without legs, and it was actually considered that ukraine is doomed to conflict with its state if it seizes crimea, because crimea is a need for ukraine, and ukraine needs crimea. and today we feel it more than ever, and only with last year, two other regions of ukraine were seized from the territory of crimea, and the occupiers came to kherson region and the occupiers from occupied

crimea came to zaporozhye region. and over a thousand rockets flew from the territory of crimea in a year. that is, we see that russia is using crimea as a springboard for further aggression on the territory of ukraine, accordingly , the issue of security requires that crimea be returned to the legal field of ukraine and that the sovereignty of ukraine is restored to it, that crimea is economic security, why has crimea never given large revenues to the ukrainian budget but uh, ukraine is an export-oriented state for ukraine, a sea route to the world is very important. and after russia illegally seized crimea, we immediately felt the problems on the azov sea, then it effectively blocked exports to the azov territories of ukraine. last year , it tried to completely block our exit through the black sea and this created huge

problems crimea gives the opportunity to control 80% of ukrainian sex russia stole through the seizure of equipment for which hundreds of millions of dollars were paid by chornomornaftogaz she somewhere excluded 10 billion cubic meters of gas for our ores on ukrainian wool, that is, during this time of the occupation of crimea. and in general, she told us so far the possibility of using the shelf is one of the keys to energy independence . crimea is a historical treasure trove - it is only 4% of ukraine, but on its territory there are more than 12,000 monuments of history, archeology, culture , etc., which are registered on the territory of ukraine. this is

somewhere over a tenth of all registered monuments of ukraine, ukraine is a european state, and europe is actually being built. to put it simply, the legacy of the ilad culture, the legacy of roman law and christ, crimea was the road for these values ​​and these ideas to the territory of modern ukraine. that is, there are the bodies of european ukraine the oldest city in ukraine is kerch , actually, which has existed for 27 centuries. yes, this is the first european integration of kyivan rus' connected with chersonesus, when the prince of kyiv actually married a byzantine princess, and not after after he captured chersonesus, church tradition says that volodymyr was baptized there, and this is for us what an example that shows that european integration began there , because after that, prince volodymyr of kyiv

was already considered an equal ruler of the then civilized christian europe, crimea is and there is no need to protect ukrainian citizens who are suffering in the occupation, and a civilized state even talks about one citizen if he has fallen into the hands of terrorists. we already have hundreds of thousands of people in crimea waiting for the return of ukraine is also the ukrainians who are subject to ethnic discrimination, it is the crimean tatars, by the way, part of the russians who live there are waiting for the return of ukraine, we ukraine cannot just abandon these people , yes, we are not abandoning our own, we must return there ukrainian power and rights and in general interrupt civilization in the status of crimea as a territory of fear and without rights imposed by russia and return there to a completely different

civilized order or a whole place for other reasons that oblige us to liberate crimea . thank you for this, the optimistic ones are with you goodbye, i thank you very much for taking the time to comment on this important issue for our viewers, again professionally andrii vanets , candidate of historical sciences - representative of the regional council of ukrainians of crimea, he was in touch with us after a short pause, why will there be conversations oleksiy mustafin, journalist , television manager, politician the author of popular science books , a historian, we continue to talk about crimea in the historical political and military plane with him , be with us, this is a worldview program we will be back soon slamitez gel quickly reduces pollination and cures pain from back and joint pain flamidez there are 10% discounts on neyner two in one at podorozhnyk pan and

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your assessment and forecast of the development of events, you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch saturday's political club that saturdays are not espresso, let's continue our conversation - this is a worldview program, my name reminds me of vasyl zima and now i'm not talking about why our crimea somehow conquered and lost crimea crimean mania, russia, we are studying honey before the conversation of the next guest, and this is oleksiy mustafin, he is a media manager, a writer, a historian, a journalist , a pencil case, everyone, i congratulate you. good afternoon. we discussed a lot here with the previous guest and the historian. i will ask you the following question, maybe now you will give a clear answer to it or close to the truth, because everything is relatively true in this life. and why is crimea so important for russia only as a military base? are there any other points that may be invisible or incomprehensible to the usual logic of war or politics or economics, something that does not give them the opportunity to get rid of it, as they say, no

, the aircraft carrier falls, well, actually, from my point of view, there are only two motives that keep crimea in the field of view , so to speak, of russia, it is definitely strategic control over the black sea is definitely based on this, the entire ideological system is built on it, and it can also be called dynamic putin’s nostalgia for soviet times , when you could go to crimea on vacation , there are two main motives, that is, the first motive is a justification for ordinary russians, but in fact there is no sanctity in crimea , there is nothing to analyze these components. it is obvious

that some role of crimea in e-e, so to speak, in the orthodox russian tradition is not to be critical of it, but even in that in the form it was in the russian empire, of course, first of all, because in soviet times, orthodoxy only remembered the most critical moment , and in russian history, we see that there is a tradition of pilgrimage, for example, pilgrims went to kyiv, hunters went to jerusalem, so that they and once went to the crimea , there was never such a thing in the sources of the popular literature. that is, these are only fictional reasons, the basis for somehow justifying

this annexation, the attempt of which took place in the 14th year well, that's why everything is easier for you, partikapei, modern kerch, 7th century bc, so long ago, there are so many already in the 9th century . if we also take our era, yes, well, 810, and then people will say, but you are like a crimean tatar, and a stoyak in any case tatars are not crimean, but at any time you are closer to understanding and they will say why did you decide that they are crimean tatars or there are other tatars who will live there, and why is this your crimea? look , there were greeks there. achilles ran along the snake island and along the tendriv spit of the kherson region there were turks, because he was a takapeya in general, when was it a sign, and why did you decide that you were the chicken people there, and not someone there? are the taurus conditional or someone else? please answer this question. i have not seen people who, uh, can

represent tavria to the modern modern the world, but the question is that you know the idea that was imposed that the turks, relatively speaking , came to the crimea almost with the mongols , yes, this was constantly imposed, in fact , there were churks in the crimea, well, at least during the time of the great migration peoples, that is, they are at least like that the ancient inhabitants of these territories are like the slavs, the inhabitants of polissia, for example, because to say who is older is quite strange , this is the first point, if we talk about the formation of nations, the formation of a nation, then ukrainians are actually the heirs and successors of those generations that are thousands of years old

we formed the culture of our country within the boundaries of which it is a country that exists internationally recognized er ukrainians are the descendants of all these cultures , not only slavic and even turkic , completely pechenegs . in fact, this is a culture that er absorbed into and removed themselves ukrainian culture is also cossack culture, it is to some extent steppe and even those words that are in er in the cossack vocabulary kish i don’t know what else kurin er chieftain are turkic words and they appeared in the ukrainian language not because they were borrowed, because the cossacks are the heirs of this must -eat culture as well as the kerems as the population of the indigenous population of the crimean peninsula they are the heirs not only of

the turkic peoples who again - still with the old ones lived in this territory, and those peoples who lived entirely as greeks, including the greeks, the same ones who founded politicians and chersonesus , although the greeks were also a tiger, you can say come to me in this territory. there it is usually said about america, but uh, the leader is the descendants of the k-ygriks and goths and khazars and polyvians who also lived in this territory, well actually, uh, the crimean language is uh, so to speak, the same language. well, of course , not opposite was changing, but in fact it was tia also the language that the polovtsians spoke, and this is evidenced by the living written sources of the so-called polovtsian code, it is said that the language of the polovtsy is tatar, so

again, it is an idea that there were some people and then others came and displaced them of these people and said that it was ours, this was an explanation of what was happening. and to a certain extent, it was the russians extrapolating their own behavior to others . here they are really behind in crimea and in the south of ukraine, and they when they came, they began to destroy what existed there before them for centuries, and therefore the easiest way to explain this behavior for themselves and for the world around them is that everyone did the same to them as they did. well, we can see it on the example of even this war, when they begin to attribute their own crimes or invent a similar crime in

those who are victims of their aggression, we can see it clearly, but simply in the history of crimea, this actually happened. and uh , all the time when uh, there were russians in crimea. we have 10 minutes and i will have three questions. i have about two or three minutes of land. and i will have time you speak as you have asked well, i will prove that i will limit myself a little now so that everything can be done in time, and you know, after destroying kerch, of course, in part, this kerch bridge in russia, they said yes, it is necessary to capture odessa, first of all, in odessa in order to to cut off the road to the sea for ukrainians, because as long as ukrainians have access to the black sea, crimea is in danger, this is the first fear, and i will ask here. and this story imposed by the russians that it will not be possible to liberate crimea by military means. god forbid someone dares it may be difficult to try to free him by military means, please. well, as a person like this story, i have to say that the crimea was captured very much, in most cases it

was not even accompanied by large, i don’t know , combat forces, so there were several sieges of sevastopol , but again, they ended in favor of those who attacked, whether it was the troops of the allies in the crimean war or the wehrmacht at the beginning of the soviet-german war or the red army after that, that is, in fact, from a military point of view, we do not get into these conversations about and the aircraft carrier, they uh, uh, of course we are just talking, uh, the second point to draw attention to is that of course it is better for them to release him without a fight, well, actually, or even uh, under the pressure of circumstances, as it happened in kherson, for example, but again - after all, we do not have a choice to liberate or not to liberate crimea, there is a choice which methods we use to liberate it, and it is obvious that ukraine will be forced to do it as it will be

more effective if there are fewer victims, but besides it will return to the control of ukraine, who will be against it, and the third point is theirs conversations they talk a lot about red lines in er during this war and especially during the last er last year and a half, but we see that all this is rather er hm so to speak mandra than real things if ukraine can er well, ukrainian weapons will be suitable when they approach crimea and there will be an opportunity to start a liberation operation, as you can see, ukraine will take advantage of this opportunity , which i have no doubt about. so, as a result, crimea will be ukrainian as it was. repeat the russians and we can say repeat in the 18th year under the wire, bachana was caught, forced savash and actually liberated the countries because, well, there was simply no margin of safety

, then they held him because there were also wrangels , then there were troops, er, quite specific in ukraine, allies yes and they actually forced the ukrainians to leave crimea and then they lost, he investigated because there was still a world war during the time of these politicians, but again, this is another example of the fact that, in addition to being fired , members of the military were also fired and fired. and now and now the important question is that we are possessed i also i believe and that this crimea will know this such a prey that falls out of the claws of a dead double-headed eagle, that it will be possible to finish it even before we reach the crimea and again , the crimea simply falls out, will fall out of such i would like to believe because i know that it is a lot of blood and many victims of the ukrainian army, which is very difficult and impossible to recover, but i see what we are obsessed with in crimea from the ecological, economic

, to a lesser extent, historically, the russians are driving now the christians chersonese tavriyskyi, many experts were taken out at the beginning, now they are taken away well, it’s so simple it’s point an example, but here is the aivazovsky museum in feodos, a beautiful museum. there are also a number of museums that they do not know that you are certain to have taken out the khan's palace in bakhchisarai . the russians also cleaned it very well . what will they leave? i think they just spoiled it with their restoration when you can sign the bakhchisarai fountain, now the descendants have come, and that means they are doing completely different things . himself and his prospects, and historically he will also be significantly drained of what to do next with this, what are we obsessed with doing, as they say well, so to speak, this is not a reason to refuse so that we understand what to do with it, because they say we will sow the fields

with cannabis. i am a medical candidate with a very good but we will not sow all the fields in the crimea, well, we must say real things , it should be an opportunity for them to do with the kakhov dam than from the crimea, big problems with agriculture, because a lot of things were built on these melioration systems. and now they will not be and even if we quickly liberate all these territories, it will be very difficult to restore them, and well, it takes some time, of course. well, we see that the russian occupation is all kinds of catastrophes , starting with a demographic catastrophe with the extermination of people, the destruction of people, and ending with ecological disasters, so it will not be easy in crimea, we must be aware of this , but this is our land. we must restore it, and

i hope that our partners will understand that the most important thing is to create opportunities for this free development, to ensure the rights of people who for whom crimea is the homeland. i think that i will deal with the rest of this in a different way. the current allies, how they did not treat the current e-e of the current policy of turkey. but i think that she is also interested in the revival of crimea . after all, there are a lot of crimean descendants living in turkey and those who were forced under the pressure of the russian authorities to leave crimea , so i think it will not be easy, but the main thing is that he be released and that there is a security system that allows these territories to develop freely, and then the crimean people in the end

the tatars and ukrainians have proven more than once that we and what we are given the opportunity to do, we do and restore and achieve results, although the lord of the cardigans lost part of his cavalry there in this insane attack in the crimea, which i felt did not lead, but in principle the british won the balaclava even there they started the railroad in my opinion to do something in them well, then it didn't work out later it was quite a war that changed a lot and a lot let's say so, solutions that appeared only during the crimean war, this is also our system of nurses and operations under anesthesia, again, the first railway on the territory of ukraine, actually at that time, if i’m not mistaken, to the crimea on both sides . by the way, but the main point of the allies at that time was that they eventually left the crimea to russia and believed the promises of the

of the russian authorities, but when they believed, as soon as the situation was convenient, the tsar said that they would not deceive them anymore, these conditions and treaties no longer limit them . after several decades, the russians stood under the state. this is a mistake. was made under during the crimean war, compromises with russia at the expense of the territory do not lead to anything good, i hope that this time these mistakes will be taken into account . so they would say argument your opinion or argue for our viewers what crimea should be legally, how crimea should be legally organized as an autonomy , as a region of the country, what other option, i don’t know , for sure, there are no other options now, so what would you suggest should be crimea for for him to be er and politically the most politically stable member of ukraine after

his release, i er based on the factors that we have now, we see that the main support in ukraine in crimea is the leader and we have to recognize everything and in general well, it is not ethical to say that it is good . formalized well, there is national autonomy well, actually, according to the constitution, crimea now has a car, but it is not national , or in some other way, or at all, it should not be defined there, conditionally speaking, let me call it an autonomous republic, because it causes some controversy there, but it should be recognized that this is the homeland of the crimean tatars and they

have the opportunity to develop their own identity, culture , language and have all political rights and again the right to self-governance correctly by the very definition, but unconditionally. it should be ukrainian territory. ukrainian territory is recognized by the whole world, except for some of those countries whose borders exist , which now generally found something on the street . i concluded with ukrainian airfields and a powerful ukrainian black sea fleet with bases vsevalskyi and nakhodnyi, and it is desirable to return again. well, one of the conditions after the crimean war is that russia does not have the right to the black sea fleet in the territory, well, in the waters of chornomorets of the black sea, it is wonderful norm i think that she was very kind to further ensure the safety of er. sorry for the tautology in this region, we

see that russia's black sea move is nothing but trouble . thank you very much , mr. oleksii. i will say the end, one year i remember the video when the russians annexed crimea, captured crimea in 2014, one of the ukrainian soldiers refused to go over to the side of the russian army to serve in the russian army, he served in crimea ukrainian military well, then he was not beaten or shot for this, they were just sinners, he says i will not go with you, you know, i will go to ukraine , they say, why? well, we took our crimea, he says, and you will lose it anyway and he said this calmly video there are russians, she started to get a little nervous, she says well, why are we going to lose him, and because he is not yours , you took him away unfairly, and then this ukrainian military man left, the russians stood for a long time, and so somewhere they need something: freedom, independence and security of crimea for ukrainians first for crimean tatars and for ukrainians, we believe in this and we believe that crimea will really fall like prey from the dead paw of the russian

double-headed eagle, which the armed forces of ukraine will beat to death. we are looking for 11-year-old hleb cherepanov . the boy has been missing for more than a year. and now we have received information from a witness, a woman reported that she saw our program about the search for gleb and they allegedly recognized him that i see a future with my grandmother , well , he is still similar.