[000:00:00;00] to take part in the summit of the brics countries, which is to be held in the south african republic in august, indicates russia's final loss of its authority, the spokesman of the us state department, matthew miller, said this . the day before, at a briefing in the united states , it was emphasized that the russian president refused to go on his own because of an arrest warrant previously issued by the international criminal court for the deportation of ukrainian children to russia , it is worth reminding that the president of the republic of south africa, saril ramaphosa, declared under oath that the kremlin threatened him with war if putin is arrested during the brics summit. we will discuss this and not only topics with our guest. this is yevgeny, an international expert, a scientist . a veteran of the aydar battalion. i greet you. good morning . glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. thank you for joining, but putin decided not to go to the bricks summit . to the south african republic will instead take part in this summit via video link

, there is a criminal court warrant, but this document can remain a document as long as putin remains conditionally on the territory of russia the federation, well, that's right. it's obvious the russian federation, let's clarify, and other countries that have not ratified the statute of the international court of justice, with some irony, it's interesting that we haven't ratified it yet, and probably considering the weight the warrant against putin has for us at the moment , it would probably be worth a little. in this regard, we should speed up and ratify this charter in order to find ourselves in the same company with more civilized countries. neither are our main opponents, but it so happened that the republic of south africa is a country with openly pro-russian political position in the current government, but still the country, well, to a certain extent, it is still , unlike most african countries, it is a legal state, it is a legal state, after all, where there are laws

, where there really is an active political opposition, uh that is, despite the fact that 30 years in power, the african national congress party was created in the ussr at one time, but still they do not have a total dictatorship there, and this country is a party to all agreements concerning the jurisdiction of the international criminal court and according to theirs respectively according to the laws of their constitution, they would be obliged to arrest putin . well, that's how a collision actually arose when the government of this country would certainly not want to do such a thing, moreover , well, let me remind you once again that they are one of the leaders of pro-russian politics and the international arena , but they they have a constitution, they have courts, uh, they have an opposition that demands compliance with the laws, and as a result, it seems that the valuable government did not risk giving putin a 100% guarantee that he will definitely not be arrested. well, if

there is at least a 1% chance, then what? still his arrested well, we see the courage of a russian, who is not a powerful signaler. in fact, this is the first time, if before that, the fact that russia has become a rogue country could be seen, not because they were not on various oil seals, but only because how they were treated on these sites. when lavrov came , he came, and with this sad horse with his physiology , he walked alone with him. failed to appear moreover, even in a third world country, this is the next stage of russia 's isolation. well, there is also a video link promising that putin will appear there in connection with the grain agreement. this is another point that i would like to discuss with you. how do you foresee the end of

russia's threats to actually attack in fact, the ports and in general, what are the chances that this corridor can work again. at the moment, i already estimate the chances as low, most likely the corridor will not work now, it seems that russia has made the final decision that uh, well, for them, the disadvantages of the fact that ukrainian grain goes to world market, and ukraine receives currency revenue from this, that these minuses for them are outweighed by the pluses that they had from it. and actually the indicator of this is that the infrastructure is ready and yesterday, and actually they continued from that night. the fact is that they were not against there was a chance that the situation would be resolved by erdogan, it was enough for erdogan to do as he did last year, to declare that despite russia's withdrawal from the agreement, turkey with ukraine and the un will continue the agreement and, accordingly , the turkish navy will protect grain carriers

. it is clear that russia would never risk no hostile actions against the turkish fleet, because it perfectly understands that after this the black sea fleet of the russian federation would remain , the cruiser moskva would have very good company there at the bottom of dozens of units . entering into a conflict with turkey is not to touch the ships, but to destroy the port infrastructure in which these ships are loaded, the port infrastructure is not the dvoretska channel infrastructure, ukrainian well, by the way, from from the point of view of ownership, they are currently destroying property not only of ukrainian, but also of many international companies of western companies. well, this is still not the same as striking the warships of some other state, that is, they are currently destroying grain terminals er, and in that case, even if turkey

again undertakes to accompany the grain carriers, there will be nothing to accompany because it will not be possible to load these vessels. well, again , the issue of insurance for these cargoes, the issue of risks even if insurance companies will take the risk of insuring this grain during transportation, once again, on the basis that it is protected by turkey , does anyone risk not insuring this grain , knowing that it can burn right in the terminal on the shore ? can agree, i mean the un, those who participated in this agreement, they can agree to the kremlin's conditions conditionally for the return of banks to the swift system, now connection and so on , or after all, in russia, the final decision was made there to withdraw from the grain initiative and the world will also show strength and come up with something else, i will put it this way, i really hope that the first option

you are talking about will happen, because if we go here, well, i understand that now i will say things that may be unpleasant to some people. i understand that we are losing a lot of money. i understand that it hits one of the few branches of the economy, which already have a lot, our society and the economy have lost a lot due to the war and currently another blow to our farmers. well, it is very difficult and painful for many. but there is a question of the final price, that's all the universe to evaluate the overall scale of this war and its consequences, and not only the intermediate losses of individual people and individual companies, and on this scale. in my opinion , it will be much more expensive if the world goes to russian blackmail, if they make concessions in any way, yes at least even that unfortunate word for one russian, this silgosbank, all this will be the beginning of an irreversible, extremely unpleasant process, they will then begin

to blackmail one concession after another , which in the end can lead to very a significant weakening of the sensational regime well, the facts and in fact, these will already be steps, in general, to the russian victory, to the so-called compromise peace and other similar things, so uh, we must not allow this, and even if our grain is not on the world market for one year, this is the road the price, but, to put it mildly, it is not the most expensive, it is the most expensive for another price that we have already paid for our destroyed cities, tens of thousands of killed people, if you have to pay extra for this price, it is better to pay it extra than, uh, from this grain deal alone the runation will begin in general about this whole system of isolation of russia and pressure on it, mr. yevgeny, thank you very much for joining our conversation for our broadcast yevhen , some international expert, scientist, veteran of the battalion, aidar about the situation of the grain initiative, hmm, he was a guest of our broadcast,

new sanctions against in belarus , the ambassadors of the eu member states have agreed on a proposal for further restrictions, the european commission put forward at the beginning of january, they plan to introduce them by august 9 , that is, by the third anniversary of the presidential elections in the country, more details will be given correspondent of radio svoboda in brussels, olena abramovych, my package, which was negotiated in brussels for six months and before the summer vacation, was finally agreed upon, the new sanctions against belarus will be officially presented and finally agreed upon next week, and from diplomatic sources of radio svoboda, it became known in advance that the package will include restrictions on military equipment as well as aviation units. thus, brussels wants to close the loophole through which military components illegally enter russia through belarus, the grounds for such

the number of sanctions is increasing, because the grupo wagner troops are now training on the territory of belarus, meanwhile, the european parliament believes that it is time to expand personal sanctions lists, especially for persons involved in the illegal export of ukrainian children to belarus from the territories occupied by russia, a report with such an appeal was prepared by the committee on foreign affairs of the european parliament, and it sounds there and appeal to the international criminal court to issue an arrest warrant for oleksandr lukashenko, since the international criminal court has already issued an arrest warrant for the president of russia volodymyr puti na and the russian commissioner for children's rights maria lviv and a member of the european parliament called on the icc to consider the possibility of issuing a similar warrant for the arrest of oleksandr lukashenka in belarus . systematic violations of human rights against belarusians themselves, there are 1,500 journalists, lawyers

, and various activists in prisons. european union sanctions against belarus have begun, six packages are currently in effect, the last of which was approved a year ago olena abramovich mark hajduk radio freedom brussels due to the arrival of the wagnerites in belarus, ukraine is strengthening the state border in the north, in particular, they have already strengthened the section along the border in the chernihiv region this was reported by the commander of of the united forces of the armed forces of ukraine, serhiy naiv, more than 40 km of anti-tank trenches were dug, more than 30,000 all kinds of minefields were created for enemy forces in case they try to enter their enemy boots on ukrainian soil, we will strengthen our sections of the state border with non-explosive and explosive barricades, anti-tank mines and the rest of their measures that

will be a surprise for the enemy in the event of his attempts to invade ukrainian soil . late in the evening and noticed on the road from bobrusk to osypovych. this is reported by the telegram channel of the belarusian district, just under osipovy in the village of tsel, as previously reported , the belarusian district is located in the field the tent camp of the wagnerites, which was specially built for them at the beginning of july, at the 9th column of the wagnerites counted at least three dozen trucks, some of them with two trailers that are unknown inside, i will note that earlier the wagnerites transported pickups, buses and heavy equipment, in particular, and construction equipment, the first movements of the wagnerites in belarus were recorded on july 11, as of the 18th , belarusian telegram channels reported that up to 400 vehicles and approximately 20 and two and a half thousand

mercenaries of the wagner pvk had already arrived in belarus. the leader of the communist party wagner yevgenia prigozhina himself was noticed, the belarusian district reports that he arrived in the country on july 18 by plane prigozhina allegedly appeared before the soldiers in the camp in the village of tsel . therefore, the belarusian army will not take part in this . the second army in the world. and if necessary, we will stand up for them. and against the background of the appearance of the wagners in belarus, oleksandr lukashenko signed the law on people's militia. this document creates the legal basis for the voluntary participation of citizens in ensuring martial law. the units of the people's militia in belarus

will be staffed from among volunteers or non -military citizens, and the ministry of defense will provide them with weapons and with ammunition, reports to the department lukashenko said that the creation of people's militias is the answer to threats to the national security of the country these seconds before our broadcast oleksandr olesin is joining - this is an independent belarusian military expert. i congratulate you. good afternoon, mr. oleksandr, what about wagner in belarus, how much are they doing? well , in my opinion, prigozhin announced the terms of the deal to alexander lukashenko, and between him , lukashenko means for the stay, for the authorization of the arrival of the vector group in the territory belorussia well, they needed efforts to prepare the belorussian army, taras prigozhin said. in addition, in the event that an attack would be on the territory of belorussia

, the wagner group, although it is not part of it the armed forces of belarus will be obliged to take part in the defense of the belarusian territory, and the third point is the main task of wagner, and this action is an action in africa. belarus will only mean a recreation zone, a training zone and a location zone of the wagner group, and here because they can come here and because that they will be allowed to use the training grounds here means that they will use the military ones. here they will fulfill a number of conditions, and alexander lukashenko, i also think that they will also fulfill a number of tasks for the protection of belarusians objects of belarusian citizens and belarusian projects on the territory of africa, because belarus is also developing serious projects on the territory of africa . as for the possibility of an attack on our neighbors , that is, the strange baltic states of poland and ukraine, i want

to say that any aggression from the territory of belarus on the territory of nato will mean accession. countries of nato in the war against the union of belarus and russia, that is, it will be a world war, it will probably start as a conventional war, but it will end as an atom, and that's why i think seriously for now what possibility we will not be more likely more likely the possibility of the wagner group participating in operations on the territory of ukraine well , this is also under certain conditions . to the kyiv region in order to paralyze the state authorities

. russian interests in africa, and belarusian ones too. do you think it will be possible to make the belarusian army second in the world, as we heard from that video that is actually spreading in social networks, well, with each characteristically beautiful expression , hyperbolic words, it is impossible even with the best preparation to make a small number of the army the second in the world , the second there, the second, the third - this is the usa, russia , china, turkey can be further, and so on , that's why it's just beautiful - beautiful phrases , in fact, they can raise the level preparations of the belarusian army by sharing the experience of military operations, but it will turn the belarusian army into the second in the world, it is unlikely that the belarusian society, in general, perceives the wagnerites there, and all the stories surrounding them, because

the official position is there. for example, we know minsk, lukashenko himself agreed it's up to you to accept them, but how does the belarusian society feel about the fact that the wagnerites were transferred from russia to belarus ? well, they trust people who are smarter than them in everything, they think for them, lukashenko thinks for them, they use information from the television screen, and i think that what lukashenko says he accepts as his own, and they don't really worry. as for young people, that's creative. as the class says, they are certainly wary of the arrival of foreign armed people . in addition to those who fight for money

. parts of the belarusian population are wary of alarm and expect further further development of the event. but since we have an old population , therefore, as they say, there is no outrage on the surface . about nuclear weapons, about which both lukashenko and putin previously declared. she is already known in belarus, in this context , you may have more. part of the nuclear warheads for the strategic cooperative-tactical complexes iskander is located on the territory of belarus, it is placed in storage directly by the technical review for them, russian personnel

carry out external protection along the perimeter, and there are special units of the internal forces , there are armed forces of belarus, and in the future, these nuclear weapons from the territory of belarus somehow in your opinion, it can be applied, if so, in which case , therefore, in essence, belarus is a nuclear-free state and it is not, by any international law, corrected, well, if lukashenko emphasizes the fact that nuclear weapons are in his territory, then the russian federation insists on the fact that this russian weapon is located on the territory of belarus, and in general, nothing changes if it were located on the territory of the russian federation . access keys means access codes to detonators. и ето всё межад толко может деять russian federation. as for the belarusian, there is

a hepatic such a possibility that if lukashenko will not agree with putin's policy. but if they say this, then he can physically control this nuclear weapon, but he will not be able to use it because the access codes are all located in the russian federation . if, unfortunately, if we have time to use it, then i think it will be agreed upon . the solution is the spirit of the presidents , thank you, thank you, be included. oleksandr olesin, an independent belarusian military expert, a guest of our broadcast, we talked about the arrival of the wagnerites on the territory of belarus, about the nuclear weapons that russia transferred in belarus, as a military expert said, part of it is already there and russian personnel are serving . next, we will talk about the political situation surrounding the so-called grain agreement , from which russia withdrew on july 17 in the russian ministry of defense said that they will consider all

vessels heading in the black sea to the ports of ukraine and the country under whose flags they will go as potential carriers of military goods, they will be considered involved in the ukrainian conflict on the side of ukraine. this was a quote . vladimir putin said that in the previous in the form of destroyed the agreement is not beneficial for russia, but if their conditions are met by russia, we will consider the possibility of returning to this issue, and among the conditions are the immediate connection to the swift system of russian financial organizations that serve the export of grain and the restoration of the operation of the ammonia pipeline tolyatti odesa to the joy of its own government and also stated that russia is able to replace ukrainian grain both on a commercial and free basis reported a record harvest, but did not name specific volumes of grain kyiv is already negotiating with partners and looking for ways for the export of ukrainian grain. the secretary of the national security and defense council, oleksiy danilov, told a national news telethon that the question of turning to partners and the un to create humanitarian

convoys through the grain corridor is currently under consideration. after russia's statement about withdrawing from the grain agreement, russian forces began to strike at the port infrastructure of ukraine, in particular grain and oil projects are talking about terminals , the minister of agricultural policy said that 60,000 tons of grain that was supposed to be sent was destroyed in the port of chornomorsk in odesa through the grain corridor two months ago, and the president of ukraine zelenskyi announced that he should have received this grain from china in general , according to zelenskyi , about a million tons of food for the countries of africa and asia are stored in the ports of russia under attack. pavlo koval, general director of the ukrainian agrarian confederation, joins us to the broadcast i congratulate you i congratulate colleagues 60,000 tons of grain that the russian occupiers destroyed during the shelling of odesa on the night of july 19 were supposed to be delivered to china about this we already know how significant these losses are for ukraine in

compared to the total grain reserves that exist today, yes, this is an unpleasant fact from the point of view of the losses of one enterprise - it is a lot from the point of view of the losses of the general grain balance of ukraine, it is unpleasant but not critical. i am making such a correction, this is as of today because we do not know what can happen tomorrow and so on, we know that tonight again there was an attack on the southern cities, on odesa, on mykolaiv again, the port infrastructure well, we see, by the way, in our in all previous interviews, he noted that there is no need to close this case on grain agreements, then yesterday he again made a statement that he is ready to consider certain possibilities of continuing grain initiatives, but on the condition that his conditions are met - these are their six known conditions, but friends, well, i will take the courage it will still be possible to predict about those six in such a semi-open semi-secret

regime. one more condition has been added: ukraine should not touch the crimean cities, and this will be one of the key options that will somehow be formulated there critical infrastructure on the territory of russia and such other issues without the work of the actual black sea grain initiative, what losses does ukraine receive on a daily basis, and what losses will the world receive, perhaps recently in the amount of a week in the amount of a month, well, look, after putin's first statements, there are disturbances where the september futures are on the chuikap stock exchange on wheat grew now by four percent, then by seven, then rose to almost nine percent , corn is followed by wheat, and futures, their quotation value rose, er, well, for we are not very pleased with this from the point of view that if we have difficulties with logistics, all of them will grow not because of our problems on external threads, but we will not be able to use them, not only that, but the domestic market may fall because, well, the slowed

logistics will be due to its residual transients due to push the new crop against the wall for farmers, it will fall. well, so far it is not observed so sharply, but certain trends are already appearing, and plus, you understand, we have been in conditions of uncertainty for the last week, that is, how will this be resolved the problem is obvious that there will be a resolution, but it may take several weeks quickly, it may not all happen from the point of view of continuing the grain delivery routes to europe , asia, africa, what are they and are they at all today, from your point of view well, they are , they were and the launch of the corridors in july last year, they are simply limited in terms of their scope and scale, these are 14 railway crossings in the direction of european countries, but there is also cargo, remember this is all the story of the polish case, the so-called and then the transit , then allegedly opened, but there are five of goods or four through five countries. well, and so on, plus road transport

, and plus we partially export through the danube , but there, too, these possibilities are limited due to a number of objective technical reasons, because ships with a small carrying capacity can operate there due to the depth of the bottom. and it is necessary to enter the territorial waters of romania or bulgaria and further in the apartment, in essence , the black sea ports are sports, but you yourself mentioned poland and at the moment the refusal of the european commission to continue after september 15 it is prohibited to import to five countries there is grain from ukraine poland can unilaterally close the border, the prime minister of the country said about it, in fact, this is another problem that kyiv is currently facing , what to do in this case. deliveries from ukraine are closed for these five countries. i think this is about imports. and transit will still be there. well, you ask how to work with this, as with any negotiating platform, you need to take

the initiative in the negotiation areas. in that number and it was necessary to conduct more intensive negotiations regarding the black sea grain corridors, but there are different levels of negotiations , there is a certain level of presidents, there is a level of technical services and so on. in the european case, we have the status of a candidate as members . it will be necessary to appeal to the european parliament to the european commission, it will be difficult as practice has shown for various reasons we still don't have enough authority there, it's just that everyone 's attention is focused on us now, but this is not enough , we need to be more proactive and more active behave at all negotiating platforms and be constructive because you have in certain aspects well, we can demonstrate in parallel with the constructive there which are not so acceptable options, who, for example, there are corruption schemes in the dps, there is something else and something else and this all needs to be done promptly it does not help us to solve the issue within the country, but you believe that

the black sea grain initiative can be revived, extended, it will have a continuation, but it is difficult for us today to say in which model, in which scenarios, obviously if yesterday, raising the stakes, putin bombed two nights in a row, this means that he is ready to continue his talk. he is simply working through the power tool of the negotiation position . something is very important for him in these negotiations. three, he cannot lose it, but besides, he provides a guarantee through otaku and goes in the amount through a food terrorist or from a food blackmailer, in positive corridors , our negotiator must be very careful. thank you for the analysis, pavlo koval, director general of the ukrainian agrarian confederation, was a guest of our broadcast, we talked about the possibilities of whether the black sea grain initiative will be restored and to what extent it is a freedom

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