[000:00:00;00] this is a victory that gives victories and what you had is lost, that's why you know we don't need such presidents we need wise people because all this victory can come to naught when we win it if the leaders are people who we just really like and someone wants to at least snort thank you for being with us it was a big stage i say goodbye until tomorrow until 19:00 to 18:00 now serhii rudenko program verdict let's watch it together good evening we are from ukraine slava ukraine this is the program verdict my name is

rudenko's third massive missile strike in odesa, the sheikh says that they are taking revenge for the crimean bridge, and in moscow, on tv channels, they are happy that the occupiers are shelling odesa, the armed forces of ukraine began to use cluster munitions at the front india is waiting for putin at the g20 summit putin is still thinking, hesitating this week as we know, he refused to go to the south african republic for the bricks summit well, yuri gorbunov is a popular tv presenter and director of the tv series is going to make a movie about oleksandr povoroznyuk from ingulets, we will talk about all this later for the next hour, our guests will be volodymyr vyatrovych oleksandr musienko and volodymyr yelchenko. for those who are currently watching us on youtube, i will say that we are conducting a survey. we are asking you whether ukraine needs a movie about povoroznyuk. it is a very simple question, considering that when we filmed a movie about holoborodek, no one asked anyone, but we will ask on our youtube the options for answers: yes, no, another option . so, three nights in a row, russia is shelling the port

infrastructure of ukraine. under the blows of odessa and mykolaiv, the consequences of the latest shelling and the testimony of eyewitnesses, let's see that first there was a sound and then a very loud flash of fire, well, the metro, yes, and they dropped it, let's say, which is very basic, accurate. that's how it shook a very decent one. let's say so, 10-15 centimeters there and back. a huge house. imagine the phone was nearby. i turned on the phone. i turned on the flashlight on the phone

. all the door eh neighbors have become akrikovat всех руших кто животных to call for help, this is the consequence of the shelling of odesa, mykolaiv, last night, we are in touch with the people's deputy of ukraine, volodymyr vyatrovych, volodymyr. i welcome you and i am glad to see you on our air. good evening, let's start with the situation in the south of ukraine, because for the third day in a row, the russians have launched massive missile strikes on odesa, on mykolaiv, on port infrastructure, on civil infrastructure. what do you think putin is trying to do? well, this is a continuation this tactic which is then not used from the very beginning the beginning of a full-scale war. it is an ordinary surgeon. it is obvious that his task is to intimidate the ukrainians. it is obvious that his task is to sow women in the middle of the ukrainians. this is not the case. there are no targets. some infrastructural objects are not targets. some military objects are the targets. the target is the ukrainians themselves. who, uh, panic should spread among them, and who should eventually be ready to listen to the dictates of uh, vladimir putin. that is, these are absolutely terrorist goals and terrorist methods used by terrorists in their struggle in

chen once again showed that he himself and russia is a terrorist state. ukraine is the hero of putin's greece and answers to putin for what he did in ukraine. why, according to you, does the world not treat putin like an international terrorist? i mean, someone is agreeing on something with him, they are conducting some kind of negotiations even. the same grain agreement is, in principle, to sit down at the negotiating table with a terrorist who simply burns ukrainian land, destroys ukrainian land, and turns the black sea into a pirate black sea . after all, some unprecedented situation when

a terrorist leads one of the largest states states in the world and not just the state, but the nuclear state is obvious that the precedents of such in history were not so uncertain the position of many states of the world who want to interpret his legal leader of the state on the one hand for somehow needed and close his eyes to those crimes that we think of a very serious way to do. not show that this is not dealing with a manager of the state, we are really dealing with a terrorist who heads the terrorist group of the press center of the defense forces of southern ukraine. nataliya humenyuk told about what happened in the south this night, we hear that they will continue to attack the port infrastructure, it is quite probable and as much as possible, because they have the potential for this, if you analyze these strikes that they inflicted, they have chosen a new tactic for themselves , this is a simultaneous attack in various ways by various means of various types of weapons and

the use of missiles, in fact, at the same time basing e-e ground surface surface and air kamikaze drones are also added here and the fact that cargo ships continue to arrive in russia means that they are also replenishing stocks and using them. they are mainly the types of missiles that they still have in stock, but the very fact that today, for example, iskanders were added indicates that they are trying to achieve maximum efficiency , mr. volodymyr, what is your best recipe for fighting putin's piracy. i

think that we need to work more actively with the world after all, we can see that up to the current station, as it is used by the world against russia, it is not enough. russia is producing missiles in its hand with new missiles from the new shelling on ukraine. therefore, it is obvious that we need to agree on some other tougher sanctions, we need to find out these some loopholes that putin is using in order to update his own weapons, or is it clear that without this it will be very difficult to stop him ? it is obvious that in ukraine, ukraine must get additional weapons and air defense and not only defensive weapons, but and weapons for continuation of its counteroffensive by other methods, such as armed ones, was the method of defeating the russian federation, there are simply no other ways to stop this terrorist, and this is what the world must understand, because until now, the tactics in many western countries are the first request of america , who consider

it necessary. together with ukraine, in order to develop the russian federation, there is civil and industrial infrastructure, we see how in the last few weeks the results of various tenders and procurements have been published, and we see how the local self-government is trying to build stadiums, repair roads so that in your country during

the war it is expedient to do and you know what it is not expedient to do. and the way they propose to deal with this is to actually deprive local self-government of resources in general, it is absolutely unacceptable, or at all to announce that funds for culture are not needed at the time of dismissal , it is also absolutely unacceptable, it reminds me of the stupid situation that happened with the ban on the departure of deputies abroad because one of our colleagues decided to rest during the war in thailand, that is, sometimes the methods of dealing with some problems only create additional problems, so i am convinced that culture should be financed during the war, it is obvious that it is necessary to be very careful about which cultural projects should not be supported at the expense of the state, and it is obvious that these cultural projects should also be aimed at strengthening the country's defense capabilities, even if it is about defense, the ability of the point of view

, it is obvious that tv series about the void is hardly what part of ukraine needs now. state coffers - for the state tv channel, the house is clear, a completely logical question arises. and what do they want to film? now we see the estimate of the series and which you mentioned about povoroznyuk about ingulets and where the main character is. prototype of oleksandr povoroznyuk, an entrepreneur and owner of the ingulets football club. in 2019 , i hope that we will still be ukraine

i grew up, but regardless of whether it has any political meaning, i think it is absolutely indecent, well, now in the time of war, to use these scandalous persons who have not done anything special for the defense of the country. i am sure that there are many or real plots that should be the basis of a film in a series that tells about the heroism of the current defenders of ukraine . i make a cultural front and create cultural front 33 million uah is not so much for 24 series about povoroznyuk, what else did gorbunov say, let's hear and see, the multimedia platform and ukraine's speech in may announced an artistic competition for shooting films, series, animated films, documentary films with a patriotic direction in order to support the spirit of ukrainians, in order to further support our patriotic mood, and among these films , cartoons, documentaries, there should be comedies actions, including my company

prototype production together with others applied for this competition and we submitted ours to the budget of 33 million uah for 24 episodes, specialists know that this is a very small amount, we will try for this money and make such a product that will reflect our today's reality and that will inspire why it is important for us to film a comedy at the beginning of the war we gave hundreds of concerts for the armed forces of ukraine i know how the military reacts to the fact that they want positivity, they want humor, how they react to jokes on funny stories eh, i don't know what to say about it i can remember one episode

when my book about zelenskyi was published in spain, spanish journalists called me and asked something about zelenskyi, about the war in ukraine, and then at the end they say a can you remember a joke about zelenskyi ? acceptable, that is, he says that we won the tender so excuse me. we may have complaints, you know, even this short synopsis of the film denies the thesis that it is supposedly about some kind of patriotic film. let me remind you that it all starts with the fact that two ukrainians are fleeing from kharkiv, well, it is difficult. somehow it is difficult to see the patriotic feelings of two ukrainians who leave their hometown and flee from it, despite the fact that we have many cases of the same ukrainians who are probably from it became a weapon in the hands of the defense of kharkiv, kyiv

, any other city, and i believe that in in principle, it is normal to make some patriotic films and tv series correctly, even during the war, it is obvious that they also play a big role, but you know, when they are trying to make some patriotic cultural products, in particular, those people, those companies that have made a name for themselves, that have learned to make fun of the all-ukrainian, i have doubts whether they will really succeed in such a very electric time that ukrainians are going through, to make something truly high-quality and patriotic. will it turn into some kind of caricature of ukrainians ?

the question of the introduction of the english language in ukraine and the subtitles that were supposed to be in the cinema and on television today the humanitarian committee of the parliament unanimously supported the presidential bill, which removed these points about the fact that english-language films should be shown in the original language and then simply subtitled. these films should be clear that in this case it is about restricting the use of the ukrainian language in the cinema and on television. do you already know the reaction of the president or does he agree? he has seven norms i don't know the president's reaction to the amendments and what is proposed by the humanitarian parliamentary committee, but in any case it is still a parliamentary-presidential republic and our laws are passed by the glorious parliament, not the president can introduce bills on the main ones, the son's bill was introduced with scandalous norms, after such a hot reaction in the public, actors, cinema owners, in the end , today we reached the i think absolutely correct decision of the committee, which

was that we removed from this bill those norms that apply to cinema, in particular, i take care of television, because there was another norm that was less talked about , which, nevertheless, also narrowed the use of the ukrainian language, it is about the fact that the ukrainian-language quota on television was included, that in addition to the english language, that is, at the expense of the ukrainian language, they tried to approve the english of this norm, too. more careful detailed amendments to those norms that remained in particular, this will apply to civil servants in the education system, which should be the main tool for promoting english e-e what would end it for ukraine i mean if these norms are obvious that you ended in a whole

. in a business with the world business of hollywood sabom that is, it is a huge investment in the development of ukrainian culture, that is, these big companies pay western companies pay for this dubbing, it is obvious that a large part of the actors simply remained without work, it is obvious that such a large part of those people who work in cinemas also experienced serious losses because the number of people who went to the chinese cinema decreased significantly.

reading the numbers in the cinemas and reading the numbers in the cinema would lead to the use of russian-language pirated content. therefore, in addition to this, it would also return to the direction of russification, so i think that it is very right, very good that we have removed these norms and , in principle, we give a chance to make this draft law more adequate. this can be done by law. if it is necessary to make additional resources in the first place, which should be developed in education. well, in education. obviously

, this is the youngest generation that currently exists in ukraine. it already perceives the english language. just as we once perceived the parallel development of the russian language there, we taught the russian language. this is not possible. it is an inadequate comparison during the war with russia. i understand that in the future there will be the same generations who will calmly perceive the english language faster than russian. thank you, volodymyr, for the conversation. it was volodymyr vyatrovych, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube platform. for those who are currently watching us on youtube, please like this video and also take part in our take part in our vote , we are asking you today about whether ukraine needs a movie about voroznyuka yes no yours option, leave your options in the comments under this video, then we will be in touch with oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military and legal issues , oleksandr. i congratulate you, i am glad to see you on our broadcast. i congratulate you. let's start our conversation with the situation in the south of ukraine, because after russia's withdrawal from the grain agreement, russia is actively shelling massively shelling the south, destroying terminals, port infrastructure, civil infrastructure

. said the minister anna lena burke, minister of foreign affairs of germany. let's hear what she said about ukraine's prospects for grain in the world. he does not stop at the use of grain and civilian ships as weapons, and the whole world made it clear, if it was not at the united nations in new york, where this issue was raised by many countries in the security council, that this is unacceptable, that's why i am. this enormous pressure and very clear words of the un secretary general , who said that we will not be blackmailed, but

we will do everything possible so that the grain does not rotted on elevators, mr. alexander, putin is blackmailing the world with food for the second time in the last year and a half, why can't the world give an adequate answer to putin? well, first of all, it's not surprising that everyone is so active around grain. i thought that it should protect people in the first place, and we should provide air defense equipment, and not think about how the grain would not rot, not elevators, it still shows that the west is also in some cases cynical, sometimes no less than russia, in fact, but this is the answer, by the way, the same thing that no one dares to date to make bold important decisions that would, say, provoke russia into a direct conflict of some sort, that is, into a war directly with our partners there from the west. actually, they are acting within the framework of this. well, today, in principle

. that how do they worry about it? and why isn’t the west without a home? well, it’s probably not such an acute problem, in fact, with food, as they say, as they report, obviously because if it was a question of extraordinary guests, that is, they would probably act much more decisively. and yes, in principle, obviously, the state of things that exists suits absolutely accordingly, and the reaction, you see, is that the reaction to the fact that russia is attacking the south of ukraine is that it is looking for alternative ways to export grain

. that’s all. from russian blockade of the black sea in fact and for the fact that russia is dishonest in the black sea today only ukraine is responding thanks to the weapons of our partners and thanks to the anti-ship missiles provided to us and the drones that we are developing but at the same time, we heard that the west will not interfere in breaking this blockade, you already mentioned that ukraine is responding to those actions of russia that we see during the last three days , the ministry of defense of ukraine issued a statement in which he warns that all ships that will go to the ports of the russian federation or the occupied ukrainian ports can be considered as carrying military goods, which means that all ships that will appear in the black sea on the eastern part and the eastern coast of crimea and through the kerch strait will be perceived as military targets and will be hit by the armed forces

of ukraine . there is a decision and everyone has been informed about it countries about the closure of the black sea waters for shipping, in fact, in the area of ​​crimea, well, of course, we de facto do not control them today, but de jure, this is ukrainian territory, respectively, ukrainian territorial waters, and we have informed other countries about this that such ships will actually be a legitimate military target. these are absolutely mirror actions to the threats and statements made by the russian ministry of defense, and i think that as soon as any vessels are in the zone of damage or our

surface ships drones, well, most likely, or air they can be born completely. let's say this is logical. that is, we respond to the enemy in the same way completely and i believe that in this situation it is the right decision to what extent it will narrow the russians' operations in the black sea area and how far the armed forces of ukraine now have opportunities to attack the military, including the ships of the russian federation, as was the case with the moscow cruiser, first of all, unfortunately, the opportunities are less than the euro in russia , this must be objectively recognized, but at the same time

, i would like to draw attention to the fact that today, more than 70 ships of the russian black sea fleet are actually in the sevastopol bay and practically do not leave it, in general, in various ports of russia, in various ports of russian ships. to date, in the area of ​​occupied crimea, there are more than 100 vessels. eat e ukrainian surface drones, they are wary of them and that is why they keep their ships, in fact, with the exception of those that carry calibers that go out for shelling, uh, what they keep them, uh, even in the bay, they created certain protective devices there, they invented cables here, stretched nets, strengthened them there, and so on, as protection against surface drones, because there were attempts to attack even so. that is, this is our base, our main weapon for today , which we have, is surface drones the second thing that

we have is anti-ship missiles but for in order to hit a ship missile, it is clear that the ship must be within the radius of its damage there 250-270 km. the third weapon that is there is aerial drones, which are now used just as actively here, after all, there are risks that russia will use its fish and try to jam it, but that is . no ammunition began to be used by the ukrainian side

we know that the united states of america handed over cluster munitions to ukraine, e.e. russia threatened ukraine and the united states of america because the americans gave us these cluster munitions in the 14th separate mechanized brigade, the reuters agency has already confirmed that they have already received cluster munitions and are starting to use them, in particular, from the m109 self-propelled howitzer stanislav, a soldier of the 14th separate mechanized brigade and talks about how cluster munitions work. look at these cluster munitions. they have very let's say so advantageously, an advantageous feature is that they can cover a very large area where a lot of manpower accumulates there, or light and armored vehicles , and with their help it will be possible to stop and also help our infantry to move forward, to prevent the enemy’s offensive or help our troops occupy advantageous positions. putin constantly says that ukraine will use prohibited ammunition, although cluster ammunition has been used by russia since 2014 on the territory

of ukraine, they began to actively use it from february 28, 22, with the beginning of the great war kharkiv was attacked with cluster munitions considering the fact that these are the types of ammunition and what can be expected in ukraine, oleksandr, on the eastern and southern fronts, considering that the southern front consists of these large redoubts, which are called surovikin lines, that is, obviously, all these bunkers are concreted there in the south or in the east, where they did not apply the principle of water in those ammunition they are provided as absolutely