[000:00:00;00] and the possibility of how to say station control of models - jeans from the top that resemble a leopard and it is remotely controlled , and there are already such samples on the battlefield. it is wonderful that we have a development that we have directed in the near future for promising work. there is

probably a direction in the ministry of defense. it will be possible to wail, we will probably speak again to show that, after all, the ministry of defense is taking steps to really create technological innovations that protect our soldiers on the battlefield. thank you very much for including our viewers. i would like to remind our viewers that eduard trotsenko, co-founder and general director of infocom ltd llc, was on the air of la espresso. umanets is the chairman of the supervisory board of the association of

arms and military equipment manufacturers of ukraine dmitriy, the reserve general, i welcome you, i welcome you to the studio and i am glad to see you mr. serhiy, mr. general, i would actually like you to tell us something about the enterprises of the association that are currently involved in the production of robotic platforms, because i remember that there was such a platform called the peacemaker, it was even shown at the parade, the name was very good, it was just right for the use of anti-tank guided missiles , it looked very good that now with this project, this project exists as a peacemaker

they really said everything is correct, it means eh the company that is working on this program, they are working on something, they are already modernizing it according to this program. and, in general, everything is going well. the bad thing is that, unfortunately, until now, the state does not have a so-called program to speed up this project, because this project really deserves a lot of respect. first of all, because we will have much less people to leave, and in our country, after all , the state leadership rightly pays a lot of attention to this, if you compare it with our enemy , they have people. that's why they are there let them destroy this problem or allow it to be destroyed, and we have to save our people. especially since our best people are fighting at the front, it is also necessary to keep in mind that it is specifically

related to the robotic system, they can be used for various purposes. materials, ammunition of the wounded well, and so on and 200,500. unfortunately, the war has its own way. these means can be very much used now in battle, but i would like to focus your attention. you have such an opportunity there, serhiy, to convey to the state leadership that the state needs to get involved in this process. the program for the allocation of funds in garages from the same people. now these processes cannot be carried out. this is already

the past, as they say, and that is why it is most important that the state turn to this project on i think that the attention of this program is no less than that of me. and you have contacts with all the chiefs of branches of the armed forces, and the question arises whether you tried to convey to them that it is really already another stage and you cannot create robotic platforms in garages, because in fact, without a systematic approach, we will have such units of samples instead of having mass production of such equipment, and then the question arises, what can be such a main impetus for the state to change its attitude towards

companies that create such technological i will knock on complex samples. they will reach the leadership of the military leadership of the top military leadership so that a decision is made, and then the funds have already been allocated, and everything else concerns the parliament, the president, and so on. well, first of all, this is so that the leadership understands that this is really a very effective means of destroying our such a very difficult evil enemy, which will not go anywhere, even if the war ends, this neighbor will remain as an enemy. therefore, we

need to think about weapons of disarmament in ukraine. you and now and tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, do you understand? the fact is that mr. serhiy, we left the proposal. we have been running this program for seven years, but the issues were mainly resolved somewhere at the middle level, at the level of the department of management and so on, but these people do not always understand it. they understand better if he comes with a ready-made project, you understand. well, i don’t want to offend them very much, but unfortunately, to this day, they understand more. unfortunately not about the state

i have said it several times in my speeches before. if the worst thing for us , mr. serhii, he and she have not been seen for a long time, it means to destroy this middle class, that's what we call, you know, replace people with more progressive ones. after all, we advanced to production much faster. i hope that by working together we will do it and i want to reach your management. i will have the opportunity to get to you in the near future. i will try to highlight the issue because it needs to be resolved . thank

you. 1.3 billion dollars, within the framework of which attack drones will be manufactured by american companies for the armed forces of ukraine, but there are other solutions when ukrainian companies, proactive companies, do not want to wait and do their projects with their own money, in particular, this is how a project with an unmanned complex called backfire appeared about this development in a conversation with the teams that created this project, we will talk in the next part of our program after a short information block

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this people who have information and shape public opinion people who defend ukraine and create the future the main and interesting thing in the program is the verdict serhii rudenko from monday to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10 we continue our military program and now we are joined by artem shcherbakiv uav operator mr. artem's birds are chasing from the linden trees. i congratulate you. i congratulate you, serhii ot literally a couple of days passed the presentation of a new strike drone that was created in and with your participation or with the participation of your team, but before we move on to drone fires, i would like you to tell us a little about your unit, what strike drones are you currently using in order to destroy the enemy precisely and we use our backfire plus some fv drones, then we move on to the beg fire project itself, what is its peculiarity, what was the reason for its creation , what are the tactics of application and so on, that is

, what kind of project is it is the reason for creation - in principle, there are few uavs of this format, there are few on the front, we needed a means that would allow us to hit targets in the relative depth of the enemy, and so it was created. this very uav was created . the interference of radio communication

to enter it arises the question of how it is ensured destroying the target dropping the ammunition because if he flies along the route without communication with the operator it means that we have to lay down all the key moments before you start like that this is how it works our intelligence gives us the coordinates of the target and he bombs according to the coordinates uh he has a ballistic calculator that calculates exactly where and at what time he needs to drop a bomb or two uh and it automatically does it quite successfully and accurately and the mass of the payload there as i heard up to

3 kg it corresponds really hundred more than 4 kg then the question arises, what are the main problems now facing the team that developed this complex from the point of view of scaling production, increasing the production of complexes, you do not expect anything else, but the only problem is that there is not enough finance, finally, we need finance for scaling to bring it to the final product, there are still a few points that need to be completed so that it can be handed over to the troops, and we want to put it into service, in principle , we are engaged in this, i think somewhere in the region of 1.5-2 months er, it will be officially put into service and the guys from other units will be able to order it through the ministry of defense. they did not use this potential of the accelerator of the ministry of defense. a new structure has been created there, which is directed at you to speed up the delivery

of new developments into service. we have not used this experience. we are now implementing it, and in principle, we are ready to cooperate. we have a weapon for you. we have several projects that we presented. backfire and several other interesting things. and we are launching our company to collect

funds. find or site or well on the platform to donate to your project, see the easiest way is to go to google and write angry birds no and one of the first is one of the first links it will be just to the site of our production and through it you can already find there there will be a link to the fund e-e to which you can donate e-e in principle this is the scheme, it is the easiest thing that i can so now go to you, well, this is the move i think the audience heard it and will do it and provide some financial support and how much now complexes have already been made, what is the composition of the complex

the cost of these general things so that the reviewers would have a certain understanding, see, in general, during this time, 60, er, about 60 planes were made, the planes themselves, this is not a complex, some were, er, destroyed by the enemy, some were converted. well, this is a process, it is not possible to create something from scratch that will work at 100% efficiency, that is, in a year, it is about 60, er, planes, er, one complex has three planes, and the complex also includes an er control then e-e zip repair kit and in principle all this is the basis of the complex the cost of the complex is from $50,000. that's for three planes and stationing, you can also install a control station on the car base. and i also forgot to include the catapult itself, which launches the planes, in principle, here is the information about the cost and equipment of artem, when we talk about the fact that the plane flies on an off-program route. that means that

all these attempts by the russians to use rap to knock these or other planes off course have no effect on your complex, and i understand that absolutely correct one interesting development that we have, and in principle, the enemy cannot do anything to us, only visually notice and shoot down with a missile, but it is economically ineffective. and then the nuance is related to the combat unit, because this is actually now a challenge for all developers of strike drones, because there is no typical combat unit , the company, to be honest, there is probably no authority to create a combat unit, this is exactly the authority there, uh , in the units themselves that have to provide

the equipment of the combat units, as it happens you have different variations of what we can bomb. the last thing we started using is the trophy light tornadoes that are disassembled. they are cluster bombs. and we use the cluster ammunition of this missile as a bomb. and what are the most typical targets that you program for the use of your strike drone . what are the priorities ? effectiveness in terms of

destroying targets one there to two one to three, what are the average indicators, you can say, look at the planes here, uh, it’s difficult, yes, uh, to tell you, because many of these planes, uh, were lost on the training ground when they were being developed in terms of efficiency, this is a viable aircraft and it can be used for quite a long time, uh, some of our planes have been flying for four or five months, the effectiveness of the attack, well, in this case, we simply cannot count it, in principle, every combat flight is a hit target, and when we talk about other projects that are currently

being developed ukrainian teams will come out in your own way, do you try to interact with other companies in order to make some better decisions, to shorten the path to increase the efficiency of development or application, of course we interact and also offer our solution to other companies , er , a different team, and one of the bonuses is that our team is heterogeneous. it's just that they have a slightly different vision. and because of this, we choose the best solution to this or that problem. well, in fact, i understand that uh, the webfire, which was a year ago and now

, are two different complexes, because during this time, many components that were supposed to improve this design have probably changed, they are so different planes, uh, even visually , they are different. they are limited by finances, if they say that funding is not limited, then the company can provide 30-40 complexes per month. are these too optimistic indicators? i think that everything depends on the finances. we have an understanding of how to scale. our team has people with civilian experience in managing companies, setting up different businesses and different levels of businesses and production. we also have an understanding of how to do this, and i would still like to clarify, in particular, you mentioned

what interaction with different companies is about. we just you have such a solution in another ukrainian company, in particular ms. sher, yes, that is, in fact, the plane is launched from the hand, they do not use a catapult and they also go to the target, but they are guided in the process of flight, you ensure completely autonomous flight of your complex, and this means that there should actually be such a close interaction between the intelligence, what you mentioned, and the time of the launch of the plane so that the target does not disappear anywhere during this time, and i think that this is exactly what is needed, a clear interaction between

the size of the unit amy it must be you yes, of course, and in principle, these are different planes for different types of tasks, and even in terms of their weight, more precisely, in terms of the ability to carry a payload, our plane can carry more, and due to this, it is designed for other purposes . some vivid examples well, the viewers were sure that this is a cool thing, it is necessary to add and support the e-e team. after finding them on google and focusing on your projects, please give good examples of the use of your complex for magical purposes so that it would be so beautiful. i think that quite soon we will show a series of videos with the damage on our social networks so that people can see

it visually . told that there was a moment in our practice when we dropped parcels behind the front line for our guys who later used them interestingly over time. i can't tell you more, but it's, well, from my experience, the most interesting thing is that we had damage to enemy equipment or infantry. you won't surprise anyone here, and they do it

. there were more such planes which destroy the enemy, their important goals, and let me remind you that artem shcherbakivskyi, the operator of the uav, was broadcast on the expresso channels, and he is actually a member of the team that developed this backfire drone . on the other hand when we we talk about land robotic platforms, the demand for this type of weapons exists but as we see the entrepreneurs yet cannot find such a clear condition for interaction with the ministry of defense and i think that this situation should

change in the near future because we will expect that exactly robotic on the winter platform will also be a priority for those decisions that will be implemented and promoted by the ministry of defense of ukraine, therefore, from the following summaries of this program with the guests of which i am serhiy zgurets. and then the broadcast will continue with news and its host iryna koval