[000:00:00;00] varna is a big port, it is definitely necessary to transship more money, and then through greece, maybe through croatia, a shorter way. there, where there are no russian troops, let’s say this option, in principle, there can be a multilateral agreement with two nato countries, bulgaria, romania, and we along one part through the danube, and the other part can through varna . thousands or 10,000 + if we

use other directions, for example constance or well, we have to understand how much transshipment costs, where does the grain then go, and accordingly i exclude at least that's what they tell me our game and although it's interesting that their opinions about the cost differ somewhat, but they say that today we can get by with the increase in the cost of grain through the traffic through the western border and through the danube, er, here i certainly will not pretend to be an expert in the weight sphere, but nevertheless, their preliminary calculations show that even such an option at least

works. of security. yes, it is also a risk. but nevertheless, it is normal. maybe, but as i said, you need to calculate if we have grain in the army, then where does it go if they go further by rail, then why can’t it be done through other terminals? that is, it is not only security and not only politics - it is actually a normal business model that should work. i understand that in any case, goods up to the constant must be delivered through the odesa port, and in the odesa port . lazy the infrastructure will be destroyed to a large extent, and then the fundamental question arises. and how to export grain in general, and then we only have transit opportunities, or from whose western border and through

the danube , which in fact, uh, russia can also attack, this is also an opportunity that we have. he even says that these restrictions will not be extended. poland will introduce them unilaterally. what i am shouting is a violation of all previous agreements with us and the european commission, but here there are limited restrictions, restrictions that apply to the export and sale of our grain to all countries, and transit was planned from the very beginning, but somehow this grain ended up in poland , ended up in romania, ended up in slovakia

. how much we know that russia has helped two countries of central europe with this - these are poland and slovakia. in the near future, the elections of the company will be held - these are important voters, they greatly influence the political picture, they also greatly influence the political picture of other countries, well, urban and hungary are generally well-known examples

of this. as far as i understand, these countries continue to want to protect themselves from the fact that grain will remain on their territories. they have a completely different agricultural model that works on yesiv subsidies, by the way of the most critical blocks in our negotiations, the european union, where and in general, everything in agriculture will be the phenomenon of the complex sphere and by the way what those five countries are doing this, so unfortunately, the best is the best, and how do you consider the leaders of african countries at the summit of russia . grain market is unstabilized then think that they will try, but not in the way we want, because russia tried to agree on many different schemes and through the black sea or its ports and through other ports and direct deliveries to africa with some kind of payment there, or from the arab countries, respectively, or from the emirates and through qatar, that is, there are quite a lot of such stories, and as far as i know, part of the african

countries are processed by russia and russia, and other countries help with other schemes for the supply of grain and fertilizers. in other words, they are offered such a comprehensive solution. other things for the harvest. and the fact that there is a grain agreement is actually unstable, and i think that trade around the grain agreement is also trade with non-western countries. and by the way, it is not only african countries, for example, from our grain e-e agreement, four or so millions went to africa, but for example, a very significant buyer is bangladesh, this also affects the latin american market, because what is supplied to spain can be replaced by latin american countries that is, it is a more

complicated game than just african countries they are putting pressure on putin putin is putting pressure on an african country thank you minister klimkin diplomat minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 2014-2019 and we are now moving to hydrology ihor the orphan, the general director of ukrhydroenergo will appear soon good health p ihor thank you for finding the time for us well and the first question is difficult and simple i don't know what you will say i listened to various experts some say that we need to rebuild the kakhova hpp it is not necessary, it is necessary to leave it as it is, others say that if

the dam is not built like this, some other dam and hydroelectric power station are not built like this it was completely new. and fourthly, they say that it is not necessary to let the dnipro water through any pipes for irrigation. in short, a bunch of opinions about what the general director of ukrhydroenergo will say. well, let me try to summarize, of course, my specialty is hydropower and hydropower structures, but let me raise those questions that for some reason no one is considering today, because hydropower will be the fifth, the first question, well, in our country... e kahovsky reservoir - it was, well, the largest

reservoir in europe in terms of area, so here it is 18 million cubic kilometers of water were lost, we know that today kherson, zaporizhzhia, mykolaiv, and dnipro regions are suffering from a lack of water today, temporary schemes are being made to provide those regions with water, this is one question, if we do, it will be a temporary solution and they will not be 100% supplied with this water, agriculture, the agricultural sector and industry, the second issue is that without the kakhovka reservoir, the zaporizhia nuclear power plant has no supply where does the water come from 2 the third - crimea - is definitely ukraine and crimea there is no water c3, the fourth question is that we are losing shipping on the dnipro river. that is, all the grain crops that were transported from the zaporozhye dnipro region were all transported to kherson e.e. the ports of mykolaiv and odesa, i.e. today e.e. logistics is disappearing and we are losing it, and from those ports the import that was brought in and the overall size went along the upper course of the dnieper all the way to kyiv. that is, we lose four components if we we will find

a solution if we determine what can be done with those the four-four questions that i mentioned. until then, there is the fifth question: what is the need for a dam? if it is needed, everyone understands that we need water and it is a shortage today, then we need to build a dam, and already then we can turn to the fifth question

: what is the need for a hydroelectric power station, and what will we say according to the latest projects, what kind of station should it be? to the question of whether a hydroelectric plant is needed or not, but the question of a hydroelectric plant is that kherson and mykolaiv regions are the most sunny and windy areas for the development of alternative sources, i.e. the sun and wind, ecological energy is such and it is basic energy, it will need to be regulated by something. and then we need a hydroelectric plant, look, and when we talk about a dam, listen, i just absolutely did not say. are there any such new, advanced dams of the 22nd century? well, something like that. not me specialist, well, they put something there, water accumulates and is restored, so this kakhov reservoir was not installed , it means they are not restored, it means that the dnipro is still in the same state as it was 70 years ago, or what can be done with the dam so that it would be unique and not to distribute water, so we

say that water is in short supply in the world. with such volumes, or maybe smaller, maybe, well, you know, there is such a country, israel, they use water very sparingly there, and you just generally wonder how they can grow half a crop there from one liter of water . i know some tangerines , what can

you tell me from the dnipro? what's the schedule? dnipro - this is an absolutely shallow river. in other words, we will not provide any needs for this water, so what would we like to provide for, say, agriculture or industry in the kherson, mykolaiv, dnipro, zaporizhzhya region, this will not happen by itself. the second question, if we do not provide, say, the kherson region with water for expansion . but this is a question for the agrarians of the meni water management

it seems that this issue is more complicated with regard to dams. of course, it is a dam. believe me, i have traveled to more than 20 countries where i have watched the development of hydropower, dams, they are all the same, they simply depend on the configuration, what is the pressure of the water, and therefore it changes . to cover the kakhov reservoir until the flood this is to be done after the de-occupation. of course, this is a hydraulic structure from the upper side of the kakhov reservoir and from the lower side. what is it for, first of all, so that you can store water during a flood? second, don’t forget the station. it was a bridge crossing. it was a railway crossing . the top is 15 m and 800 m long, and

two such structures need to be made from the upper one part of the kakhovsky reservoir and then drain this area from the lower one, an expert should go there and see what happened to the station, how everything was blown up and then the second stage , er, to dismantle the station and design a new station, of course we had a project to build two more hydroelectric power plants, er, two more stations. rybohod station, what does it mean that fish must come in, it is done in european countries that fish that will come in from the sea and will come into the kakhovsky reservoir and go all the way to zaporizhzhia to spawn and this must be done, let's say the requirements of ecology and which we must already foresee all the requirements of ecology that exist in the modern world and pass an ecological examination and that's all

this needs to be done and of course we will do it of course the station will be more powerful because there was 340 mw and we plan planned to build another 220 now it's all 550-600 mw. we're planning. well, we'll see, because we don't know what happened at that place, what erosion happened. because that's the volume of water that went through the structure of this dam. we still don't know the condition of the remains of the 12 e-e spans of the dam that remained or did it survive. it looks like that from the top, but from the inside there may be damage and it may be necessary to demolish it. that's why the location of the station and the construction of the station

. temporarily shut off the water and accumulate water in kakhovsky reservoir well i understand that all this can still be done only after we realize that first this territory is released and control this country and we do not know when it will happen and the second that this territory cannot be subjected to any rocket and other enemy . ana, that is, in essence we talk about such a theoretical situation correctly which it may be sometime in the future, see, to design temporary furniture, gas is needed for 2 months, and then we will tell the contractor the procedure, and it will be the same time, and then

the materials will be needed. we must do it in advance, so the project must be in advance, the contractor will have to. i would like to emphasize that the rocket, as you saw, is not capable of destroying the dam. in order to destroy the dam, five rockets must arrive at one point in one place. this is extremely difficult, but first we will do this hydroelectric structure after it pays off . we will understand what can be done

. but the question is important when i was at all small, they said they had already started when they were building cascades of hydroelectric power stations on the dnieper, they said that hydroelectric power stations are inefficient, i don't understand much here. well, i don't understand that compared to nuclear ones, compared to coal ones, they don't give much, that is, you invest a lot of money there to build and you get electricity back . fantastic result so that we if

they built to build what i always insist on projects of the 22nd century and not even the 21st, say something, look, i think that when you were there and i was at that age, most likely it was about the small ones, they were talking about three megawatts, five, this is a completely different story . -e stations began to turn around thanks to e-e zaporizhzhia stations zaporizhzhia thanks to hydropower so that there the second question is clear during the flood, when we are now an unreliable hydropower system - this is so that it, let's say, equalizes the current of the network as much as possible, and when there is a peak load, we can provide, look at the nuclear block, a missile strike knocks out the transformer of the substation, the nuclear block does not produce 1,000 mw, if 1,000 mb is produced , it must be replaced immediately and here is hydropower, which literally in 3.5 - 7 minutes

you give 1,000 mw if no one else can raise the pico, he will adjust the load no one else can do it as efficiently as hydropower, because thermal generation will take 4-5 hours to reach a thousand megawatts, so we will already fall into a black count and we will already fall into a disaster, so the generators are very sorry, mr. igor, i'm sorry, we just understood, and in short, we are you, now i know that i will be rooting for e-e hydroelectric plants, they are the basis of ukraine's energy industry. we are in touch, and he conducted such a liquidation of poverty of

the league of nations now in georgia in georgia a-a koba for a copy a member of the parliament of georgia is with us. as i understand it, we will speak in russian because not every georgian knows ukrainian and not every ukrainian friend knows georgian. so we will have to . hello, mr. koba

. thank you for finding time for us. i congratulate you. there are some parts mistress saakashvili in order to later study er his state of health is very funny to me because it seems to me that doctors are, in general, invented by humanity to openly take tests from any person and the government. i don't think she has the right to tell what tests to take or not, the tests are the question of the doctors, they are the government's question

. oh, i'm begging for forgiveness, something is wrong with me сейчас секунды толков в украине отправь, от есть висибымые, and in georgia, too, есть сейчай, i'll try to correct it, i'm sorry, nothing, nothing. well, the main thing is that we hear you, it's more important than if we could see, the main thing is that they hear about this situation. well, we'll wait , literally, they're filling up there. wait how much two hours no, everything is fine yes, yes, yes

, i had an internal problem, so i corrected it now, i apologize for such a blackout. of the people or at shulyak, different deputies from different factions were present, a deputy from georgia was connected, the mother was connected, lawyers were connected, this was connected as a coincidence to this event, recently released police officers, the head of the largest positional channel in georgia, tovry nikoporami, that is, uh, the event was of a sufficiently high level. and of course, this event generated a lot of interest in georgia. this is almost the entire political day , uh, the main political topic was

the creation of this platforms and support mikheil saakashvili and a lot was said about mikheil saakashvili, let's say in the georgian georgian media space, that the georgian authorities were very upset. i didn't see them in the evening. there was some completely fabricated scandal . these are the doctors who had the right and how these doctors considered necessary . come to georgia and give the european union

they were invited by the european union . credit the work of this commission because they are beautiful they understand that the conclusion of this commission will not be in favor of the georgian regions, they are very afraid that the facts of the poisoning of mikhail saakashvili might leak. they are very afraid that this commission is practically not all these hypotheses and assumptions or conclusions that are given by, say, georgian doctors or, for example, those people who today are responsible for his state of health , let's say, give every day that they

have blamed them. there is this at the same time, they do not ignore the conclusion of, for example, independent doctors, which were created during the operation of the people's defender of georgia, where it is just such a fiction of the fourth degree, like all the boys under the cuckoo, it is usually understood that a person cannot take medicine, that is, it does not depend on his wishes. good medicine in georgia, i respect for a very long time qualified good doctors, but everything was sent to send saakashvili's doctor abroad for treatment, that's where there is already such a practice and where it is necessary to connect xyllium yes, there are doctors of different directions, yes, in order to, so to speak, correct his health

condition , as it were, and cure him. he's good, he's fine, he just doesn't eat. that's how they constantly spoke, and in unison with the doctor, let's say about the government doctors, let's call them government doctors . - all

this, let's say er all this the performance that they staged there in relation to these polish doctors. this was precisely connected with the demand for discrediting the preliminary discrediting of this commission once and for that very day in order to cover the main news that came in that day that was very unpleasant for the georgian regions from ukraine. lord, i have one more important question. this situation, if it was not related to the health of the life of an actual ukrainian citizen and the third georgian president, it was very funny. others the georgian society reacts to these petty abominations, if there is such support for the georgian dream in today's georgian government. how it was a few years ago. well, because it is obvious to me that georgians must happen that this is bad . these are bad guys. they are just, well,