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[000:00:00;00] constant problem she is eternal is no matter how beautiful a thing is free of all that is free of all that is simply disseminated and through the press and through the routers - these are the materials of chinese state ah and sinhua agencies and in which if they read them very much , they are not used to be used to be used to be used to be used to be used to be used by the ukrainian
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. in neutral countries it is latin america is all southeast asia is er, well, in general, countries for which it is unnatural to constantly be interested in what is happening in ukraine, and this is a country that er, forms its point of view with er, from these agencies and is formed and as it is read and again and again, and returning to uh, narrowing eh this circle is exactly to the new york times newspaper. there are a lot of different uh employees there are not one or two scandals when there were territory but with which half of the editors, that is, jonesalis, did not agree. well, yes, the author's opinion is again, well, it is both author's and not author's because yes yes yes but well, it was very far from being there. imagine some russian agents of influence who bring bags with dirty oil cans into the pockets of individual people. such materials are there . and i just want to continue talking about how the opinion and position of ordinary americans regarding ukraine can change during the election campaign, but
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how many forces are there? we the people are the only source of power in ukraine . it is important for the legs to keep moving change the place of work, the profession, the sphere, just learn new skills and do what has always been for later, remember that after new turns there is a new life, do not be afraid of changes, action, education, new skills, new professions 1+1 is back on the air night watch, we continue with our colleague janusi savchuk to understand what moods prevail in the united states and uh, i want to start with the question on which we ended
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the first part, how objectively the intersection of americans perceive ukraine and what is happening here way from the 19th year from when they they believed that this island is to the extent that they support this struggle, how much their image of ukraine is with reality, how they pay for it is usually not related at all and despite the fact that i said earlier, the main thing is to remember that americans are very american-centric for america, it is natural for us to look and what was written in the washington post and what was written in the deguardian and for the british too ?
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there they wrote in in the british press, or in the ukrainian press, or in the italian press, or in the french press, for america america is the center of the world, and therefore, for americans, what is ukraine, the place where our money and taxes are now being spent? hmmm, many people just know that i am ukraine. they know that we are at war with russia there, that it is cool to help us because russia is bad there . pay for it if we
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they could spend money on themselves and so on, for example, a very common topic that such radical republicans throw around is that we, america, are emptying our warehouses by giving arms to ukraine, and this falls on such a soil that gives its sprouts, and well, it gives its sprouts, the number of americans who like me is increasing. that is, from two percent onward, more and more who do not like the fact that the united states helps so much, and well , maybe let's not there we will help or maybe let's stop it already war is said there that they would stop fighting in a day. if he became president today, well, poroshenko, as he promised, yes, in a few days , he would end the ato in a few hours
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. where do they come from russian narratives in the american media, for example, there are various suspicions that ukraine is selling weapons somewhere to the left, which the west gives or some other accusations , or simply calls to reconcile and, instead of an unattainable victory, to think about how to reconcile with russia, and this is very strange. to be honest, you look in the american media in view of the support that the united states provides to ukraine and the official a-a official promoted by the american government. tell me please, where does it come from and the march well, you know what you asked now question i remembered how my grandmother, who is now deceased, used to say that you can't put a handkerchief over someone else's mouth, and uh, we can't have any significant influence on what the american media say, and what's more, for americans, they will always be more influential and authoritative than any others, and ah, they earned their popularity among americans
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for years and decades . arrangement especially for 3 kopecks especially in english, well, about russian, can we argue in english, definitely no. i think the answer to yours is that, of course, there are american media-calibrated scoundrels like, yes, arkaus, who was even kicked out of fuchs for being toxic, who spread absolute nonsense about ukraine, and it’s not so much a problem that there is such a tuckerkalsom as the fact that he has a really huge audience, as we can see, she followed him on twitter , where he does his show and they really
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listen to him and perceive everything that he is speaks as the truth in the last resort, but the judge is also in the fact that he does not only speak like that about ukraine, for example, he also talks about the fact that the elections there were stolen, and soon the next elections will soon elect the next president, and he still talks about the fact that trump is the president, that there is an illegitimate president, and there are people who believe this, even within the american media, that is, there are not enough resources to convince a large number of americans - this is a huge audience in the obvious things are what you mentioned there editorial. that is, there are some editorial articles. well, we can't forbid them to have some opinions, i'm not very sure that it's directly that they repeat russian ideas. and they also have, including in the biden administration in the white house, different opinions about how and on what terms the war should end, and such points of view that we don't like, controversial about the fact that there may be some negotiations, some concessions may be discussed but there is also such a
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category of journalists who, in principle, side of ukraine, but we sometimes have misunderstandings due to different approaches, i can tell you some examples from my communication with them, i asked some specific things. for example, do you remember the last big scandal when there was an explosion at the kakhovsky hpp and there were headlines about ukraine and russia blaming each other. i know that in ukrainian society it was perceived very strongly and i understand why, but i asked my american colleagues who work for such very authoritative media and i say you write headlines about what's there ukraine, russia blames each other, they say, but well, further on in the text, we have written that it was under the control of russia, we present all the facts, we simply state that we cannot state exactly how this issue took place, that is, in their opinion, they are not doing anything pro-russian, they are just trying to get to the bottom of this situation and understand what happened there , in their opinion, or i know that
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there were conflicts just as often, er, about what, for example, in the american media they use the word conflict is conflict instead of war and again they say, you understand. we do not mean that there is no war in ukraine. we do not mean that there, for example, russia did not attack and i am not to blame. it is all obvious to them. the word conflict is, like, a synonym for the word war . such, more, and more general translations
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. we need to negotiate, find a common language with them, we need to explain why certain moments are sensitive for us, they don't always make these compromises because in their world, in their perception, it's normal, but you don't have to perceive everything as categorically black and white, that they don't understand us there 100%, they understand us as much as they can understand, support as much as they can support, but still well, let's openly hide your loved ones and read how someone hides their loved ones are two different stories until the end we we will never understand olya now we are actively discussing in ukraine that the upcoming elections in the states can change the attitude towards the war of both ordinary americans and american politicians, how powerful is the connection between the position of ordinary americans and the position of politicians well, we remember last year's history when fuel prices rose in the states and we remember that the american media were focused only on this issue and for a while the issue of ukraine completely disappeared from the first columns of the american media, how much for them is really
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domestic summons, including elections for form a change in the attitude towards ukraine and how it can affect the support of e according to my observations, the issue of ukraine was not central in the previous mid-term elections and the congress. of course , the topic of ukraine always sounds like that, and it remains on the front pages, which is good, but what about the political choice of americans, the issue of ukraine is not central to them, it really is not how many cents a gallon of gasoline has become more expensive. it is more important to them and they count with precision. even funny that there is sorry there on the other end of the world there is a catastrophe and here are 50 cents, but here they live on their continent they are isolationists mostly and eh-e truly their own problems are interested in them much more than our
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theme of ukraine sounds and i am sure that it will be more and more . since the election is already obvious if the company is already er and where not in full force, but he goes, he distances himself a little from the issues of ukraine publicly, that is, he tries more to speak publicly about intra-american problems, about the creation of jobs, about there racial discrimination, there intolerance, and so on, that is, to solve some purely american problems and talk less about ukrainian ones, because we remember how hmm before the beginning of the great war and at the beginning , well, almost every week we had some big speech by biden about ukraine
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now, of course, practically every another aid package is announced next week, but the pentagon announces it, the spokeswoman of the white house comments on it, for example, at a briefing, but such distancing goes on, and of course the republicans will swing this topic against the democrats, but what huge sums are spent on ukraine, about the accountability of these funds, about the fact that, again, these funds should and could be used, in their opinion, for some photos of american needs, this will all be indisputable . what scale is this ? the process will gather because even in the non-intermediate elections this rhetoric was sharp enough and i think that we will hear and see a lot, but still, uh, we must remain on the positions that there are two party support in ukraine and ukraine
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in the united states, and no matter how sharp the political rhetoric is, still deep inside they understand that it is impossible to a-a allow at least russia to win and change the picture of the world completely a-a in their favor because really americans see the united states and american politicians see as the center of the world and well, they seem to me well, there are no options for them to allow putin's victory, that's what trump says that he would end the war there in a day or there in a few hours, as he said. well, he says that he is the president that the elections were stolen from him. that is, he has a lot of such illusions, but what i understand is communication with my american colleagues, of course, in ukraine. it would be better to achieve some great successes on the battlefield by the time the elections are held because, unfortunately
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, unfortunately for us trump's chances are big enough his popularity with the republican party is only growing, he now seems to have 60% of support among the republicans, and his closest competitor is something like 40, well, that is, the gap is huge and trump's chances are actually very high, but on the other hand, again, as analysts say here, and trump is not the only candidate who can beat biden, so the company will be interesting. thank you very much olya for your assessments and for very interesting details and details. i will remind our viewers that she was in touch with us special tsn correspondent in washington in the united states, olga olenko, and we return to thank you, and we return to our conversation with yana slisarchuk, and i want to have time to discuss just one more topic, to be honest, i was very upset by such an in-person altercation between the minister of defense of great britain and mr. zelensky, who entered into such an in-person argument, which looked so irritated, as if they both annoyed each other very much when b zero said that
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the country should be much more grateful for the west and britain is not amazon at all, and he explained that he heard this phrase from americans who complained last year that ukraine comes and simply gives them some list of what they need. and they say to them, well, sorry, we are not amazon, and yet, there is such a moment as, on the one hand, it seems that ukrainians are often praised for such arrogance in the good sense of the word, yes, and on the other hand, it sometimes looks like ingratitude and some kind of well quite rude as you
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think, but how is it perceived in to the united states, and whether such unpleasant moments can sometimes affect the level of support for ukraine, because of the way the united states is now treating its elections, and i would like my colleague to speak. i would like to add that there is already a joint initiative of the democrats and republicans to legally prohibit any president of the united states from leaving nato, that is, they are considering the possibility, well , everyone is moderate from both parties that trump or another such extremist who wants to may return just on populism to take steps that will harm the united states and the partners of the united states. and in fact, these are the initiatives. as for the altercation. and as for the sharp position of ukraine, even the western press, we are talking about the british press and the american press, interprets it very differently. here is the behavior of zelensky, and the day before, when he actually issued a rather harsh
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statement, and the answer to it and zelensky's answer to the answer when he said that we can wake up i want to thank you it is necessary to thank you, well, no one accepts this. this is good. this is the last one, despite the fact that, ah, basically, many of the authors consider it so tough, they call it a tough approach everywhere, that he is trying to knock out, break, bend, uh, a chain like that, he is the president of a country that is at war, he demonstrates to his citizens that he is trying to use absolutely all means for the sake of this country, in order to get something more from the west . unfortunately, the fact is that we very
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often mention in the context of our sometimes of such a specific international behavior let's say this, we remember the israeli experience and we cannot forget that we remember the israeli experience now thanks to the fact that israel won. that is why it is considered a victorious experience, so we are trying to copy it sometimes, uh, it is possible to create ukraine, the israeli model would be suitable, for example. that's
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how our rapprochement with nato is held there because for a part of his team, the negotiating position is whether ukraine joins nato or not, it is a negotiating position in a possible peace dialogue with russia, not only nato, f-16 attacks, and other other needs of our army, and in view of this, well, i repeat, there is a different assessment of zelensky’s recent statements and zelensky’s reaction to the voice . they don't see the relatives of their friends, or their acquaintances, as their friends do on a daily basis, for them, war is a show, well, this show is just 24 hours seven, it's hollywood, they are shown the real thing, it's not even naked, it's a reality show, and there's a lot of it, well, the last interview of uh, zaluzhny, ah, um, there's a post where general zaluzhny directly says that it's not a show for you, or rather, it's a show for you, and for me, it's a war, and i can't fight it without it, without it, if i'm going to fight it, you tell me yourself
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you fight according to nato standards, but how can i fight according to nato standards if i have to from the first well, how to get a protected sky i can't protect it without 16 well and so on and that is, there are different completely different perceptions but really what we must not forget is that uh for the british for the americans for anyone it is not their war and how and when uh our policy crosses certain borders that is it starts okay one sharp statement yes but here begins this exchange of sharp statements here uh the public will perceive rather negatively the british public in this case because
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what happens there is for the american public with the british minister of defense, they are very american-centric, they are not very interested in the conversation. yes, and the main thing is that our viewers understood what you are saying, and olya said that this is a war not of the americans, it is our war for them. this is a show for them, but the level of support depends on their desire to watch the show. for them, it is not quite that they pay too much for such a show. they will not really accept the role of this support and empathy
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. taxes and which in the end we are paid for protection from the enemy, and it is still unknown what would have happened if it were not for this help, in any case, but anyway, we thank them, we thank you, i am not thanking you, i am not thanking you for the interesting conversation, maria vasylivna is on guard on the night of hanplin. see you on the air. every ukrainian has a new bodyguard . the future, the future of ukraine
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thousands of years ahead . thank you. hello. how are you today? hello. i'm exhausted . determined struggle of the ukrainian people in the crimea you definitely saw this story as the young man poured yellow and blue paint over the administration building of yevpatoria, later for this act the occupiers put the boy behind bars and brutally tortured him in this episode. we will tell the story of bohdan in more detail. it was clear that the video was completely fabricated. he said things that are inherent in me now. oleksandr's cousin is fighting for bohdan's release, who believes that the publicity of this story will help to release his brother as soon as possible. he is doing very well, so i am very sorry that now
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he bohdan still has to live for 28 years , born in zaporozhye, but after his death my grandmother took over the upbringing of my parents, so the boy ended up in the crimea from an early age. bohdan loved to draw and was engaged in parkour. sister oleksandr shares her memories. i remember from childhood when we came to yevpatoria and they were always there when he was still small. he always had such showy performances. he did parkour. he always remembered. animated video of the robot we shared on social networks
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he draws very well he traveled 3d games he took photos, he makes videos, i know that he wanted to develop in this, even though they are cousins, but they were always like family, oleksandra says, they always kept in touch with bohdan, even from a distance, i felt the most comfortable talking to him, for sure, than from the kidney, it felt like really like a part of the family and he is such a very understanding friend after the death of his parents
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. it was like that until 2014 when russian troops occupied crimea in february 14th, his native city ceased to be an island of safety, it was filled with russian propaganda, looting and silent terror for ukrainians. however, bohdan could not leave because he could not leave his native grandmother. he decided to leave what he had at home because he has a grandmother there, and in fact, it is very scary to lose a home and lose the only connection with a native person. in this way, he arrived in the occupation for more than 8 years, and it did not affect his position. that about the ukrainian position bohdan reflected creatively in street art and his own poems, and he is a connecting artist, and
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