[000:00:00;00] and we continue our program, we will continue as i promised, zinberg, a professor of new york university, is playing. i hope he will appear now. and we will talk about the situation, in fact, about what is happening in the united states, and here i don't know how i will look. good health , professor, good health to all the audience . i just think that i will be the devil's advocate. well, they are

warning ukrainians, but in reality, if i were i was an american, i at least thought about it, well, for example, one of the candidates for paratroopers says about him that he will not be a candidate, he is too weak and too stupid, so very carefully i will say that this war and interest in this war is a tertiary interest, it is not a primary interest, they serve as a secondary and not only a tertiary interest, and i would say that if i lived in the united states and i would not be ukrainian but some kind of anglo-saxon, i thought about it. i am not saying that i perceived it positively, but i would say well well, really, it's me personally. well, yes the prices can be raised, yes, there may be some other troubles there, but in principle, this war is not very good for me, it is not on my territory, it is not on the territory of my neighbors, it is not on the territory of nato, it is not on the territory of the critically important middle eastern countries of mine, if it were colleagues or friends there in israel or the far east, let's say in japan or in south korea. and i would say well, yes, somewhere on the outskirts of europe , something is happening

. ka am i wrong i think that i would say that this is logical, but here i think it is necessary to separate two things. first, what interests ordinary americans, not politicians, not presidential candidates. of course, what they are most interested in is their life, how much money do they earn, how much does it cost, how

to better equip their children and the future of their children? strongly when the united states is involved what is it about the war in iraq and the united states there was quite such a significant movement against this free quite soon after it started and i'm not talking about the war in vietnam there was a very large movement against the war in vietnam master when the united states is involved in this let's say people can like it because they don't like the states eh-e started the war looks at afghanistan and after the terrorist attacks on september 11, selim had a lot of support from her society, and then, er, she er, went to heavens when they saw that, well, nothing will come out of afghanistan to do anything else. and the same with the war in ukraine. that is to say, this is the way it is. this is not the first thing that americans are interested in. well, when the news is shown on television. let's say something about what is being fired at. it is on many airwaves. let's say it in the first place. all this destruction is in the first place. it is extraordinary that people look at it. my people are interested in it. people in america have quite a lot of empathy in general. so when

such things happen here, we will have to do it. it is important. here regarding politicians regarding candidates in presidents, there is just another thing, you have to take into account the fact that a lot of republicans simply advocate such an isolationist policy of america so that america is by itself and does not engage in anything that is being done in the world, and i would not say that it is even more concentrated than the amphibious assault that is expressed by trump

. and politicians because such and such the most powerful, the same republicans, let's say they were very, very isolationist since the beginning of the second world war, i even finished harbor, you did not categorically oppose the fact that the united states took any part in the second world war, that is, i distinguished it, people are naturally interested there, i understood. and i think i think someone will like it in america and there is some justice here, or explain it if there is none, when trump said during his tenure that listen, well, we agreed to give 2% for defense, so let's give all 2%.

why should america pay for everything, now he says that the european union should compensate for the weapons that america supplies to ukraine. i just don't know the numbers. how much did europe give? europe pays, let's say, not hundreds of tens of billions. since we are one bloc of nato, let's somehow make it fair, that is, there is some grain of common sense. well, i would say that there would be a grain of common sense if we were talking about socks. by the states of the mega cost of weapons processed in ukraine. i

think that this is not inappropriate and hardly an exception except for the regiments of trump supporters, for whom there is a lot of truth in america. it is unlikely that anyone except them can support such an idea here in this discussion. i will probably lose with my logic, because if we take your logic and look at the ratio that is related to the gross domestic product, then if the americans, like the estonians, gave us such a ratio, then the yellow-blue flag has been hanging over the kremlin for probably one and a half years there, because the baltics are actually giving the lead in translation to po for special assistance from each balt much more than many countries, because they are connected by states, it is necessary to consider that the baltic states give a lot of the american weapons that they have. that is, this is the way it is. i would say there. how they do it there. this is also the main thing. well, they give more, so that everyone gives more. i think that is the most important

thing. how it happens inside, this is... let them agree among themselves. the politicians, the philosophy of the country, to you, the question that i asked myself yesterday, i could not ask myself. today and tomorrow i will ask different people what you think if we take aid or not aid to ukraine from the united states. how much reluctance is there? and how much impossibility. what is the ratio we can afford? well, obviously we are speculating. i am asking you a speculative question expecting a patriotic answer, because we cannot measure it, especially when we talk about the presence of weapons and then we say that he wants or does not want to measure the word want. it is not very difficult. i

think that i think that if we are talking about zhopadin and his administration there is no desire but there is another thing they are constantly calculating it is done every day but the assessment is done it changes and will not lead to something what they are doing to a direct armed conflict between the united states and russia because they believe that it will happen in a very short time in a few hours or a few days it will be the third nuclear world war and they don't want that they want to prevent it that's why everything they do they

evaluate it everywhere and there is another one the factor is how much money congress has allocated for aid, because the administration can provide aid, and within what limits, within what limits, what congress has allocated. how much money does the administration can use during the fiscal year, and this is, for example, general milli, when he gave his last press conference after the last ramstein, he spoke. he is a new example of airplanes, just like this, for example, 10 words that you in 16 cost 2 billion dollars . there are hundreds airplanes, er, several hundred airplanes, er, of the appropriate class, or something else that is still needed on the battlefield today, he specifically talked about the means for demining, because minefields deter the advance of ukrainian troops, that is, it is evaluated through the prism of how much money is there, how can we use the money in the most effective way, but there is no desire, there is no desire, er, there is , i heard from us thank you, mr. president, we have one and a half minutes to answer the last question, please

, what is the new york times writing about the visits already? in what is china talking about? what does america want from this visit? i think that this is all a private visit

. it is not about politics. relate to real and the policies of the administration regarding china and that is, it is more like a private business card of censorship. although he can then write an article or express his vision, let's see what will happen after this process, that is, the second option, the second reincarnation, which xing played as the person who finally dragged china from the arms of the soviet union into the arms of the united states. about this in 1972, when he was preparing for nixon's visit to china, he can talk about it because he has been expressing it in his publications for the last few months. there were several of his strategies. where he spoke

about what it is necessary to isolate russia, that is, he . i think that he can talk about it on his own behalf, that is, not on behalf of the biden administration. if he says it, it is useful. he will write an article about it to the newspaper when when it means i think that within a very short time it will appear from him in the first person that you will appear from him in the first person that you are the consequences of this . not the vast majority, but a significant part now advertising

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promised, we will talk about the countryside economy denis marchuk, deputy chairman of the all-ukrainian agrarian council, please contact us, mr. denis, thank you for taking the time for us. thank you very much. welcome to my first question. and how about the chekak stock exchange? what is there? what are there? what are the figures ? the audience really

if we look at the first e statement which it took place in relation to russia's not to participate in grain initiatives, it caused some fluctuations on the exchanges and actually went the fields to four to five percent on grain, but already closer to the end of the day, and prices began to fall again after july 18th, the world of ukraine or without russia . what about the fact that one way or another exports be so i think that the closest period of time july august month we will actually witness the negotiations negotiations that will be focused on how to agree on exports specifically with the black sea because alternative ways ukraine has used and will use but from the point of view of zorology from the point of view of fast delivery and at the same time a large volume of products to the sea ports there is no alter today so this attention today really came to what will be the process or will it be

a four-way a-a working group like worked ukraine, turkey, un, russia, will it be a tripartite agreement of ukraine, turkey, un, and in fact, we have such experience. i will remind you in november 22nd, when russia came out, see the next question, and replace it. i am absolutely convinced that such ideas in the kremlin are simply to throw out the markets in ukraine from the african asian ones and replace it with itself. that is, russia would gladly throw out the ukrainians and stay alone to dominate all the markets, it is possible here, there is some

kind of countermeasure because i am absolutely convinced of that in the next few days, there will be a meeting of african leaders with putin in russia. i think this will be one of his proposals. i think it will be one of his proposals. they say that ukrainian grains are fine russian ones, or there are such things. what will the russians steal? well, he will not speak about it. they will steal the ukrainians’ voice and take it as their own. what do you say? this is one of the elements of war and international economic corruption. it is still active in the 22nd year . russia did not have the opportunity to export a large-scale invasion very actively wanted to enter the markets in which ukraine was present, the markets of africa, asia quite actively began to disturb the grain group with china, but only after returning to the e-grain initiative, we partially returned to our markets again and returned our customers. russia does not hide the fact that it really is today, but wants to enter to work more actively in africa in asia , what are the statements when they say that they are ready to support the african continent even on a free basis today, but

only give us the opportunity to work. sanctions are an indicator of what russia really wants in russia, russia wants the lifting of sanctions , but at the same time , despite their desire, with all their capabilities, and even stolen ukrainian grain from the temporarily occupied territories, the demand that exists in the world today for the grain group is not able to satisfy russia. that without the ukrainian food group the valuables in the world will increase and this is actually not just from words, we had such a practice when without ukrainian grain prices rose by more than 20%. that's why everything needs to be done today in order to, let's say, this aggressor country of russia , which is not only trying to carry out hostile attacks on the territory of ukraine , but is actually forming food

terrorists in the world today, and these sanctions, on the contrary, need to be strengthened more regarding this country, see, let's see what about alternative ways, if um, for the past year it was quite acute enough well, i would say dangerous people talked a lot about this farm i just met farmers here in lviv who said mr. mykola help i say i don't know how to help except through television they said that we have products here standing at the border and we can't push them into europe or through europe because there are simply no crossings, there are simply no customs crossings so that you can just go there, it's really not much

, but if you say what we imagine the worst neck and russia is such an option and blackmailing, will it win or is it capable of, are there any alternative ways that can already help ukraine to supply grain to international markets? and i don’t know through sukhodoly through the danube. just tell me if it is possible to replace the black sea. you just said that it would be the most effective transshipment and sale of the black sea. to what extent is ukraine able to fill the black sea by 80% by 70 by half ukraine is able to replace it, but there is still a problem with our partners and our neighbors who are unable to accept such

a large amount of cargo from the territory of ukraine. nevertheless, we are actively using the development of the danube region, the small river ports, and in fact the potential for today's export through the danube can reach a temperature of 3 million tons, and the alternative land route of the railway by road can also reach the order of 1.8 1.7 million tons there, that is, the combination of the positive circumstances presented somewhere and the potential good work with the reception of our grain, we could now unload about four or four and a half million tons and this is in principle a good alternative to the black sea initiative, but this alternative is much more expensive in terms of costs and, accordingly, the indicators of receiving funds for our merchants will be significantly less because additional logistics will require additional investments there per ton plus $30 + $40, more expensive compared to the black sea

. not either small we will of course use it in order to sell these products and, er, receive funds for the laying of mainly in the future of the sowing campaign because in a few months the sowing campaign of winter crops will start in ukraine and without money it will be very difficult to do it military-agricultural economic somewhere some expert i read literally the other day claimed the following that the united states gives a lot of money to the african countries of this so-called common south and so that they

purchase products well, for example, to if they don't buy ukraine like that, that is enough, let's tell them yes, ethiopia bought it, i looked, yes, there are no hungry people, then this money goes to ukraine, who can use it to buy weapons, that such a multi-speed combination from one e-e, on the one hand, is connected with agriculture, agriculture, the azizovs, the defense capability of ukraine. haven't you heard about it ?

the man had not heard of the african-ukrainian-american agreement and it will be interesting to look for information, i am also talking with my colleagues to explain these in detail. i was simply confused because i had not heard this and just the other day i heard that there is such a combination that the americans want to help so and so and so and so and so and so and so and one of the options for military aid is when will there be a sale, uh, the ukrainians will sell grain, but if the africans will not pay for it, but the africans will not pay, the americans will take it, if the american war is already full of food, we are not all hungry here, then ok, there is half a billion left. please sir zelenskyy to receive half a billion in additional aid, okay, of course we will be happy, just look, in principle, you believe that this is diplomacy faster than agriculture, but you can imagine that african countries will be able to somehow, well, not push, but somehow inform the russians that it should be continued this uh-uh un oniv-ukrainian turkish-russian agreement because well, we know that, for example, in ethiopia just in general on the corner of africa well, there are simply too many millions of people uh, they have

huge problems just to eat from practical point of view to persuade to influence russia probably not, but for the sake of deepening and general a-a let's say the characteristics of the situation, of course their statements will have a role and in fact we have a statement from the representatives of egypt who condemned russia's exit from the black sea initiative and declared that they will continue to buy ukrainian

grain. african countries who really is the aggressor who played the game today, but this food blackmail and what russia is doing in relation to the aggression is really reflected in the food security of your countries, therefore, do your best to put russia in its place and you don't need to get involved in their next populist statements that they will supposedly give you something for free, we need to all work together today to defend in a civilized manner the possibility of selling ukrainian food in the black sea, access to world markets in order to release the demand that exists thank you very much denys marchuk, deputy head of the all-ukrainian agrarian exchange, was with us and will be with us, iryna koval with news on espresso tv book - please, ms. iryna. thank you, mr. mykola . in just a moment, i will tell you about the situation at the border because the russians continue to shell our ukrainian cities. there will be information about the fact that volodymyr zelenskyi had a phone conversation with jens