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[000:00:00;00] there was nothing to demand from the west, is there not a certain cunning in this that erdogan wants to shift the responsibility for the final disruption of the black sea grain initiative to western countries in the event that vladimir putin does not agree to any concessions in this matter, you can look at it this way or you can look at it another way, that this is a bluff in front of putin in order to show that erdogan is allegedly playing on the side of russia and protects the interests of russia in front of the west by voicing all these putin's whims and
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of the russian side, and therefore russia has to agree to a return to the grain agreement and to stop the bombing and shelling of odesa and the ports of southern ukraine, this is again a feature of turkish diplomacy, when everyone seems that turkey is playing a little on its side and a little on the side of the enemy or competitor, and it is thanks to this that turkey maintains such a balance, first of all, trying to pass wars between all parties and remain a partner for everyone at the same time . vifta especially since turkey itself is not participates in the sanctions and cooperates economically with russia in every way, but on the other hand, we hear the same stories from the side of turkey, first of all, the work of the grain agreement is absolutely correct. here, everyone announced today, only officially, this agreement has stopped working now, in fact, the grain corridors have been blocked since november 22nd, when russia first stopped its participation for a few days , returned, and so on. and
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so on. russia, therefore, i don't think that we should expect any uh. well, let's say there are bad intentions on the part of erdoğan in order to shift all this blame only to the side of the west. rather, i think that this is such a diplomatic game in order to, after all, drag all parties to the negotiating table to reach a compromise . the west will give in a little
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. july 19 drew attention on the fact that the grain that was destroyed in chornomorsk and in odesa was also to a greater extent planned to be delivered to china. it was, well, for china, grain on july 20, when another massive shelling appears. it turns out that the building of the diplomatic mission of the people's republic of china was damaged, and there is even a reaction. there was an explosion next to the chinese consulate general in odesa. the wording is also interesting. what are our prospects? well, i don't know whether china should be drawn into this story at all . and and uh, do we have an understanding of the true position of this country p. sergiu well, of course we need to somehow try to involve china more in the events that are taking place and that it is profitable for china to buy ukrainian products for several reasons. let's say maybe china is not so interested in the economic situation with the price of agricultural products, it is more political, less depending on the united states and for another 10-15 years, probably
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actively. ovated and they could always buy ukrainian products, which, in principle, in terms of quality, could very often be better at the price of an alternative, and the key political alternative. and today, both for ukrainian agricultural producers and for china, this cooperation is extremely important. let's say frankly, from a legal point of view, that china lost its grain after these shellings, unfortunately for us, and we lost ukraine , a ukrainian agricultural producer, a trader who owns this grain because china owns this grain. our side because we see
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that almost all the time china takes such a mediocre position, so they condemn military actions , they condemn shelling and so on, but they do nothing concrete in order to put pressure on russia, although we understand that china has an order of magnitude higher level of ability to put pressure on russia than even turkey, although turkey. such events that are because if everything were too simple, by the way, she would lose in this situation. well, of course, today, if similar actions take place on the territory of ukraine, causing
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damage to other world players and not only china. world society at this event because russia very often shows a different position and we know that there was a period when somewhere we lost in the media and did not cover enough of the events that are happening in ukraine to the outside world . let's go to the discussion the most important thing is discounts on neilderba in one 10% in podrozhnyk pan and oschad pharmacies pain can become an obstacle because stairs are not with
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, military, although unfortunately the railway was affected not really but after that there was an old crimean training ground where there was an explosion, then i didn’t understand the situation in rozdol, and the last of the episodes that we have is oktyabrskaya near simferopol, where fuel and lubricants were burned and warehouses with ammunition exploded . the local population and even the employees of the crimean bridge in what happened in helping to carry out this act can we in italy return to the topic after all and update the topic of the resistance in the crimea, because in my opinion it has gone a little too far in recent months. therefore, we do not know this from the other side, we see that russia is turning into a replica of the soviet union in the 30s of the last century. the 30s of the 20th century, when the people who were
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there were very loyal supporters of the regime often more radical in their approaches to the fight against enemies than stalin, his entourage became the first victims of this whole process, but before all these famous trials of bolshevik leaders who went down in history, there were less noticeable trials, and now they are less noticeable because they actually remained in the shadow of the large trials of communist leaders . every
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soviet person had to look for saboteurs and when you were nominated, it is very obvious. i would say that the moment in the bolshevik ideology is such a gas that the internal enemy only grows stronger with the development of socialism. this slogan was abandoned only in the 50s, that is, it existed from the 30s to the 560s of the xx century. the very idea that the better we live, the stronger we become, the more authority our leader, comrade stalin, has, the enemies should become fewer or more . this is logical. but this was the logic of that, by and large, the more serious the totalitarianism becomes the bigger the state is, the desire to look for an internal enemy, that is why we do not know if there are any real forces of resistance or if there is a sincere desire to find saboteurs wherever they can be found, because if you look for saboteurs and find them internal and you are an employee of, say, the department of the ministry of internal affairs and the russian federation or the fsb for the fight against russian and ukrainian spies
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who created explosives on the crimean bridge, orders are given employees of the internal intelligence service of the russian federation for intercepting drones and missiles are awarded to employees of the ministry of defense of the russian federation. and if i am an unhappy employee of the department, take a new rank. i also want to be a colonel. i want to have access to money for large budgets
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. if i am an employee of the general security service of the russian federation in the republic of crimea. for the bridge, the chief engineer or the employee of the zaporizhia nuclear power plant is better. and the manager or any resident of the crimea itself is better. and the employees of the council of ministers or the deputy of the state council of the republic are better. i have great prospects. therefore, in principle, as we see how this regime develops, by and large, i generally think that at a certain point they should arrest konstantinovych aksyonov or aksyonov konstantinov for espionage in favor of ukraine. that is, it is logical because if this is not the case the regime will stop developing and it will develop in a totalitarian direction and in principle it is absolutely classically called general yagun told us about putin's formula, but the formula for building putin's regime is very similar to the formula for building stalin's regime, when you could travel abroad for 20 years from the authoritarianism of the soviet union, peace was absolutely uh-uh, the rights of sexual minorities were tolerated there, i thought it was absolutely normal
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, is there a free family uh-uh, a free discussion in the media if you recognize who of course nistic the party, the competition of the writers' unions, it was right after the nep civil war, well, remember what you saw in 35-36, you know, everything was already so unattainable, you know, those who didn't have time to leave actually ended up in the cage, well, this is what today's russia looks like. so i can't comment on the issue there, resistance is not resistance, because for me, that's when they start talking about the employees of the crimean bridge who planted these explosives . i think it can be a symptom of another
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by the way, i want to remind you that they themselves can plant explosives. where is it? you don’t even need to look for saboteurs or for this, unnecessary ukrainians. the fsb employees themselves can plant explosives under certain spans of the crimean bridge to prove their usefulness to the authorities. and why, if they could blow up houses in russia, they can’t blow up the infrastructure facilities themselves ? self-responsibility is not so simple in russian special services always work on the edge of provocations and very often, in order to prove their need to the authorities, they themselves arrange what the enemy should have organized with the crimean bridge. of course, it is not as simple as with some house there. in moscow, because the crimean bridge is really needed by the occupier, but as you rightly said, the railway traffic, i repeat, continues from the point of view of the transportation of military
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goods. in this regard, i think that now if we want the crimean bridge to really cease to be a road for the russian armed forces and life, we need to turn it into a road of death, that is, to blow up the railway line, another aspect in the context of the events on the crimean bridge, when the russian federation offered its citizens and residents of crimea an alternative path, many ukrainians said, well, finally, now they will go there through the kherson region of the zaporizhia region to mariupol zai they will see what they have done
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no one imagined that the queues to enter crimea through these territories could be more than those to leave, and we are recording exactly this. we literally spoke with petro andryushchenko, adviser to the mayor of mariupol, yesterday. he says there is information that they do not stop going there, even by such a hellish alternative route, even realizing that there is an explosion there, i don't know the old crimean training ground and so on. that is, it is so enchanted by the image of crimea that was created there by the russian authorities or propaganda that we will go through there thorns, as they say, why, well, security actually doesn’t work here, security should work if we are dealing with a mystically-minded society that believes it is liberating its territories. i think that ukrainians should get rid of these illusions as soon as possible because they live in some illusions and we hear it all the time. and by the way, a certain part of the russian liberal community is always trying to convince that russians do not understand anything, they do not know anything, they feed on propaganda that putin is just announced
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a personal vendetta to ukraine, that's all absolutely a leafless, strong dictatorship is strong because it feeds on popular prejudices and the wishes of at least a large part of the population, we understand that the hitler regime became the way it became because it appealed precisely to the instincts of the germans and that is why, relatively speaking, in the 33rd year we saw hitlerism in the role of a party that barely received a majority in the parliamentary elections and literally in 2-3 years when hitler hunted himself to the instincts of germans to their importance there
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humiliation during the first world war for that the germans will become the strongest state in europe, among those who supported him turned out to be former representatives of right-wing democratic parties and social democrats, and all these people said after the war that they had never lived as well as under hitler, even when germany was defeated, and here we must understand that for the vast majority of russian citizens , 1991 was a tragedy. i remember this very well from my work in moscow , when my colleagues spoke in the democratic so -called media and then i already understand what it's for will lead to the fact that when they saw the red flag coming down from the kremlin tower, they cried because their motherland was dying and it was strange to me as a person as a person because, well, listen, the russian flag is raised above your kremlin, not the red rag of the bolsheviks, but the russian flag, but the problem is that this russian flag covered only part of the territory of historical russia from the point of view of turkey, russians, and the red soviet flag covered the entire territory of historical russia. so why can't you cry
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in the end i apologize for the chinese flag the people's republic is also red, but it covers all these territories claimed by modern china, except for taiwan. so when the flag is there in taiwan, then everything will be very good, and the flag we use is taiwan, the flag of the republic of china, it no longer captured all these territories, so it was a state that was not perceived as a victorious state, it became such only at the end of the second world war, think about it and the russians have such a mindset, and that is why 1991 for us is the beginning of their own independence for them this is a historical defeat, a mistake that needs to be corrected, and now they see in the kremlin a person who corrects this mistake, returns russian historical territories, what the russian people want is done, now this person and his propaganda, as you say, you can say the media they trust for them, it is not propaganda
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, this is for us propaganda, they say, you know these bastard nazis are blowing up the ugu bridge. already accustomed to this idea, there can be a new moscow, we can add to moscow the territory of a part of the moscow region and the people who live in the moscow region, the truth is that they are already muscovites, we are every person who lives in russia, you know, just by the decree of the president , you must have a dream here, too
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. you don't have the territory of russia there's no doubt that russia will move from rostov to yalta, they don't cross foreign pseudo-state borders because they were artificial borders, they were demolished, the enemies of russia, nato, the united states, ukrainian nazis who serve nato and the united states tried to put them up . a few more months or maybe years and all this will end, we will live happily again as lived in the same state, read pushkin's fairy tales together and taras bulba gogol's and everything will be fine. this is the mentality of an average person who goes to crimea and all these conversations. they will go and see, they will see the consequences of the crimes of the ukrainian nazis. they will return from crimea with even greater conviction that this is all. and therefore if we are to
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live in the real world we have to tell ourselves we are at war with the russian state, with the russian people, not with vladimir putin, the war can stop in this case, of course, if vladimir putin understands that he does not have the strength to fight such a war. moreover, i have to tell you that vladimir putin can understand this faster than the russian people. the russian people will never understand, and our happiness is that the russian people are ready to agree with the decisions of the authorities, on the contrary, but if we give the russian people their freedom, this will not end , they will never be ready to fight for someone else's land until
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the last russians they have always done this, it is our duty to express er actually and in general to delete from our circulation such words as i have already bought a train ticket to crimea or there near the neck resort seasonality it may be one day but this is the behavior of the russians in this case, this week they demonstrated to us that no such mass flight from crimea is taking place despite the fact that the degree of tension is purely security and there is increasing somewhat , you understand what the point is that er russians can not feel the degree of tension as it feels to you and because they watch their own television and believe it and don't believe it because it doesn't correspond to their picture of the world well, there are also many of us compatriots who live in their own picture of the world and by the way february 20, 4, 2022 became a sad morning for many such people for russians, it can also be such a sad morning at some point in crimea. we must realize that the liberation of crimea turns
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crimea into such a territory as the kherson region after the liberation of crimea, there will be no holiday season in the crimea. after the liberation, we will methodically destroy the villages of crimea by the russian occupiers from the black sea from the territory of russia itself. we have to ask ourselves the question . crimea will be empty there. well, here i am
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i think that putin will not spare a single crimean city, as a specialist he will take control of ukraine, there will not even be any hesitation in the fact that all this will have to be demolished, so that later when we return to russia , we will rebuild it better than it was, well, look. well, like mariupol. look at yalta, this is a terrible soviet city, change its infrastructure otherwise. how to demolish everything or build a new one is practically impossible, and no one in a sober state will do that, right? but we understand that people like putin, they think that the best way to make money from these the experiments are to demolish the city with rocket fire together with the residents, as was absolutely the case in mariupol, and then build what you already like, palaces, some complexes there, and don't forget that these people, who receive huge money for this, can still, uh, calmly riff on the russian budget, and they can think about it. so when they shell every ukrainian city , they are shelling the future construction site, the future construction site, and you will not tell him
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, god, you are destroying civilians their inhabitants were hunted they are targeting the civilian residents, they are just targeting the territory for themselves when they will later develop, and you see that they are doing all this in mariupol, they are doing it despite the fact that mariupol may be deoccupied. well, it will be deoccupied, but they will already make money. let's go back a little to the topic of the grain agreement and these cunning entanglements that are now being formed and about which we can already talk. there were many questions about turkey and erdogan's role. all these stories are perceived. successful in the principle of the project that has provided for the whole season the exit of ukrainian grain from our ports by ships of other countries perfectly fed the world not personal erdogan , but now the bench is closed by judging at least as
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of today , as it will be a matter of fact that it is possible to say that in the region , no matter how to say, in the region. food food is no ah eh. but it will be more expensive and the same therefore, the situation may be such that the poorest countries in the world will find themselves in a situation of social crisis, when a huge number of people simply will not be able to buy food for themselves, food may be available, but thanks to the supply of ukrainian grain to the market, it was possible to reduce the price, so you know, when we talk about eldogan, we can say that he did not feed
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his own. crisis volodymyr put is interested, in principle, you saw that russia did not want to agree on this zone agreement, but it was forced to agree to it for two reasons. the first reason was related to its special relationship with turkey, because at that time turkey was turning into such a quiet haven for the russian oligarchy. do you remember roman abramovich at the negotiations in istanbul to meet with rodogan himself? well, this is also a lot , as evidenced by roman abramovich maybe this is one of vladimir putin's wallets, definitely big the account is money, the second moment is

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