[000:00:00;00] our colleagues asked specifically about masad budano, obviously alluding to the special masad operation of the israeli special services and the israeli government after 1972, after the tragic olympics in munich, when terrorists shot and destroyed part of the israeli sports delegation, after which the government developed a special operation, the wrath of god, to destroy the same terrorists who were simply destroyed as a result of special operations over the next few years, we hope that maybe it will not come to that all er all the criminals will be punished by the russians through the international tribunal, what are you talking about, andrei? let's say a few more words about the ukrainian hostages who were captured not only by the military, but also by the american civilians. our colleagues, usually here, the press reported just a few days ago that they have documents in their hands from the russian government, well, signed by russian government officials about

the plans to build prisons for ukrainian civilians, because civilians , but also military prisoners who are now actually in captivity as well. on the eve of the ukrainian e-e ombudsman, a representative of the verkhovna rada's rights dmitry lubinets said that according to his information only civilians are now in captivity more the

hunted ones are in the hands of the occupiers, or indeed of the racists who are in ukrainian captivity, because the preparation for the next exchanges, the negotiation process, and this is sensitive information that can affect this process, and also because the aggressor state does not often neglect, does not fulfill the norms of international law and the geneva convention, in particular, starting with the most elementary ones, this is informing the international committee of the international committee of the red cross about the fact that a person is in captivity . with big they don't inform about their whereabouts, they don't provide fully adequate access, and many, many other things, ukrainian prisoners of war are in various places, including temporarily occupied territories, and in the territory of the so-called russian federation, and the conditions are also different, and information about the violation of the rights of prisoners of war about m -m is insufficient medical care, about problems with nutrition, about other means of influence that are used against our military

, she is, she is going to her, she is happening appropriate response to andrei, i translated you. i apologize, but the press writes about the fact that it is about civilians, not even about military prisoners, they write that they are tortured, they are beaten with electric current, they are strangled, they have broken heads, these are terrible things, how can international structures react to similar things, well, this is an influential publication, it is not some kind of newspaper . i would like attention from international institutions a lot more in the context of the protection of the rights of ukrainian prisoners of war and the ukrainian military actually. not prisoners because captivity is a legally defined term. and when we talk about civilians, well, they are simply hostages, prisoners, because on what basis

did the aggressor state enter ukrainian territory, capture civilians, often take them to the territory of the so-called russian federation , and today keeps them outside the boundaries of ordinary international law, ukrainian law, and in most cases even its so-called the rights of the same russia, on what basis did they find themselves there, in what status are they in these questions

, there are often simply no answers even in the budapest legal system of today's russian federation, that is, this is another war crime, this is another massive crime, and the detention of these people often occurs in violation of any norms, especially if we say that in principle they should not have been deprived of their freedom or the possibility of movement or freedom of action. educational institutions, something has been reworked and reconfigured in most cases. yes, these are basements that have simply been converted into anchorages, and hmm, later the terms filtering measures appeared there again. measures that are beyond any norms and law and morality and filtering camps. well, apparently today they are moving to the next stage, er, to the stage when all this filtration history has dragged on too long and it is necessary to move to some other industrial rails . well, there is a special in in ukraine, the coordinating headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war how relatives, relatives, relatives of ukrainian and prisoners of war and civilian prisoners, sorry for such a new work, can learn at least some information about the fate of their close relatives who, unfortunately, were caught

. to share information when it is verified and reliable and when it can be done if it does not harm the captives and uh, actually and other persons who are in the hands of the celebrants, the public public reception desk works, a hot consultation line works, as well as the office of the boatswain and communication is carried out by representatives of the sbu of the ministry of internal affairs in the coordination headquarters, there are delegated representatives from the uh, systems of the security and defense sector, and depending on the direction of the questions, there is communication and the necessary information is provided how

to contact people this is the phone hotline it internet site, i.e. how does communication take place with e-e together in kyiv, the reception of citizens is physical, the address is spaska 37, the majority is in podil, it is in podil, most of the families who faced this grief, we already know this address, unfortunately there are four regional centers of lviv-vinnytsia, kharkiv-mykolaiv, mykolaiv was the first regional center of e-e . om this is the work of psychologists please, it is easy to get all the information through search engines, in parallel, such communication is carried out by other representatives of the security and defense sector and the national information bureau and the office of the human rights commissioner, but the main thing is of course to get reliable information about what happened to the person, where he is, what conditions he is being held in, and what needs to be done in order to return him home, and such work is being carried out during the period of the full-scale invasion e.e. 2,576

ukrainian men and women were returned from russia the captives are mainly defense personnel but also civilians. 47 exchanges took place and the work continues. it will be one of the greatest achievements of the ukrainian negotiators and the military . i understand that this is the release of the intelligence officers from turkish captivity, but the bringing from turkey of the ukrainian defenders of azovstal, who were after the exchange on the territory of the turkish republic of azov commanders. oh

it did not happen at the moment. it happened exceptionally in september of the 22nd year, when a big exchange took place. in the framework of which 215 e-e ukrainian defenders returned, including hmm commanders of azovstalia e-e five of them were in turkey until recently, today an opportunity arose and they returned home to ukraine to their duties and to their families e further e work continues we saw of course what e-e you about this on this occasion went up there with russian propaganda the same people are talking about some kind of agreement president dogan commented on this situation, firstly, secondly. if we talk about some agreements, well, let's remember that before the return of the commanders from turkey, russia unilaterally, by some miracle, handed over 11 ukrainian prisoners of war to hungary . is engaged in this, but no one informed a

what is the fate of these people now? somehow, at first, a small diplomatic scandal arose when they were transferred to hungary. now several weeks have passed and somehow this question has already faded into the background. any agreements. well, it is not serious on the part of the russians, if we talk about the fate of these individuals in particular, well, five defenders have already returned, and there has been no full contact with others. so far, there has been no such thing, and what is more, there is information that such special operations of russian dogs can continue, including, well, now, first of all, we are talking about the repetition of history with the use of the so-called rpc, in fact , this is certainly not a religious story - it is the history of the russian special services, and again, hungary is once again

ukrainians which will be of hungarian origin to try to use against one's own state p. andriy and regarding russian prisoners, prisoners of war in ukraine who are occupiers, in fact, who were captured, what number are we talking about. if this is not a military secret and what kind of people are they, and are there any contacts? i mean that they carry some useful information for ukrainian intelligence. replenished by the efforts of the ukrainian security and defense forces, among them there are mostly different people. of course, this is such a contingent that does not represent any particular special value from the point of view of information preparation skills, but there are also very interesting characters and with important information with an important well, let's say such an interesting position, fate somewhere and those

characters who really interest the state of the aggressor, therefore, regardless of their ranks, ukraine is treated no matter how we treat the occupiers as a civilized country the state by detaining the international the rights of the engineering convention have access to the relevant international organizations and human rights defenders and to the detention camps of these. if you can call people that way, most of them are captured, but there are also such a number who surrender themselves, in particular, according to the state, the state program of the coordination headquarters wants the e-e is actively developing , it is in demand, many russians are interested, even before they get to the front line, and this program is developing

. many other people mr. andriy well, we talk a lot about the change of mood among russian things or among russian towers after the so-called rebellion named after yevhen prigozhin and the wagner group, which tried or did not try to storm moscow, but some sort of raid was already taking place. after this so-called ball, kirill bogdanov gave an interview to the british times, in which he said that well, there were contacts with the wagnerites, they met in many meanings, well, literally quote times what kind of contacts were these and how do you generally assess the current situation around the kremlin since i read there

many russian thugs, in particular, there is a hill for sometimes reading who says that we also succeeded and now the kovalchuk group has strengthened, well, in particular, yury kovalchuk, the younger brother, the shareholders of the main bank of russia and serhiy kirienko, who will now have to play to discredit the russian army, so as to actually surrender as a prisoner in this world, put kirienko and thus make a rotation. the main thing is that kirienko leads russia and russia loses this war. this is such a conspiracy from the terrorist thug gorkin how do you understand for yourself what is happening now instead, our political scientist vadym denysenko, the head of the institute of the future, says that it is a fact that putin has ceased to be an alpha male and now he will make all decisions solely with regard to his environment. a good version

of the bitter. ukraine is a state civilized, we have one structure that deals with the exchange of muscovy to russia, this is not the case, and ukraine negotiates separately with various groups, factions, structures that are captured by our e-defenders , that is, we chanted separately . in general, pvc is prohibited, but it is financed from the budget hit everything hard, they organized it, however, of course the contacts were like this and first of all it was about the return of our defenders who ended up in the hands of the wagnerites, as for the mutiny, well, it was all for real, well, real helicopters were shot down, real planes were destroyed, real russian pilots were killed, that is, if we talk about imagining that it was a production, well, it is probably too expensive for the button and about success or failure, it is probably even too early to say because this process is ongoing

, the conflict is brought the consequences did not disappear from the puck we see here literally in live mode every day something appears, the harsh king is missing, new generals are called for searches and these are all the consequences of those events, that is, it unfolds in dynamics, well, liverson wrote in french that in general, from the very beginning, they seemed to be held in the kremlin for several days until he went there to make some concessions , but on the other hand, look putin meets with a prepared meeting with a thug and a terrorist, they meet with 30 more such in the words of the very leaders of these thugs from wagner, but not for example he meets with the families of the dead russian pilots that you mentioned. how is it in general in russia and public support for putin himself in russian society can be affected by the situation, well, in order to have a civil society, citizens are needed there, if their number is insignificant and in general

there is no corresponding society, and what is shown on tv is enough for the subjects of the subjects, well, in the extreme case, we see these taxes that are happening there, they will supply someone with a toilet someone will be given potatoes or firewood? well, for sure someone is satisfied with this. these are really interesting, bigger philosophical questions. how much more do people have to endure and for what? well, why did you attack ukraine? what you got now is far more than 200,000 destroyed rashist people, that is, everyone has some families, everyone's relatives, mothers, wives, sisters. well, what is the motivation for all this? if putin is some kind

of alpha male, of course not, the whole world saw it and now this situation is actually getting worse, a lot of resources are being spent in order to carry out ipso within the country and restore putin's image, but then it gets more and more complicated and it is very revealing that the people who were accused of treason and rebellion, the cases against them are closed and any other problems if they have and if they suddenly arise, well, this means that, well, in fact , in another way, the way of the law, at least formally, could not solve the issue, and now the scapegoats are the same ones military personnel, well, once again, the question of the personnel military in the russian federation, are you going to be patient for a long time, mr. andriy, well, in the end, this whole gang of these armed bandits moved to the republic of belarus, did not move, according to your information, where they are now, promise, it does not mean from somewhere, well, in the territory of belarus today there is a small group and a temporary group of wagnerites who are engaged in solving legal issues, organizational information issues, the main forces and means in the territory of the republic of belarus have not

arrived and in principle from the very beginning and not were planned, he remembered a good word, the flock came from the flock, some came there, some came here, together with this, the presidents of poland, lithuania and latvia addressed the nato leadership on the eve of the vinnytsia summit with a statement that their information was a threat to their national security from the territory of the republic of belarus, well, obviously, it was not only about the heat, but about the nuclear weapons that the russians promised to deploy as early as july 1 or 2 , to build a storage facility on the territory of the republic of poland, even began to raise the question of the placement of nuclear weapons of the service commission that due to the wonderful consequences of the actions of the putin regime, everything is going according to plan, nato is weakened as much as possible along the perimeter of the russian borders, the threat to ukraine and whether russian tactical nuclear weapons are already on the territory of the republic of belarus, and what is the threat here for ukraine, as for nato, tactical nuclear weapons have long been near the russian-tactical energy weapons near

the borders of nato. woe to the neighbors eh and actually some of the bases where nuclear weapons are located were located very close to ukraine and the latest events related to the imported ones have brought this issue up to date again eh, that's why nothing has changed for us here, raising rates, increasing blackmail well, that's actually what putin does and lukashenko is traditionally involved in any situation, like even situations with a doorman , he gets paid, i try to get the maximum personal benefit for myself, well, the issue here is the safety of ukrainian citizens who live in the north

our country in the northwest very often ask questions in particular my relatives, so they say so they will leave belarus or not and all my assured that it is impossible for some reason to be perceived in a very reassure, please then please our citizens, well, for that russian and dogs will be a way of being a spar . anov has repeatedly given information there are representatives of the gur that we are monitoring the situation now, there are no changes, a similar scenario is not expected in the near future, and to date nothing has happened to us from the territory of belarus. i think that it is desirable and valid, of course putin would like to involve the dictator lukashenka in a full-scale invasion of ukraine together with russian troops in a ground operation first of all well, but we see that it is not possible to date and i will clarify the latest events, there are no signs

that it will happen in the near future. well, i literally today, i think i read the latest information, it seems from our intelligence that there are no military personnel of the russian federation left on the territory of the republic of belarus, this also probably indicates something, well, in particular, belarus was used mostly as a cap-hub for training, logistic repair , e-e, the main wave of chmobikes has now, in principle , passed. territories of muscovy, in particular andrii well, let's go to the vilda summit and its consequences, how do you personally evaluate its consequences, because well, the day before there were many evaluations and the same kyrylo budanov in an interview, uh, who did he say, i don't remember anymore, congratulations, it's unlikely that samik can live up to the expectations of ukrainians, instead, gta us, not the sitting president, but you, we will find formulations that satisfy all ukrainians than the majority of ukrainian society and politics, like you, for yourself, for example, i think

that the results are not bad for us support us they give us weapons, they told us that they will be with us until the very end of this war, it does not depend on us, but a lot of information is dispersed, including through anonymous telegram channels . really satisfied first of all i am satisfied with the fact that i like the approach, the traditional approach of ukrainian nationalists, that you have to rely on your own strength , and the more success there is

in the ukrainian security and defense sector and the state as a whole, the faster we will get the desired results and its political goals and objectives. now, actually, kyrylo bogdanovskyi said that such a scenario of super positive, light and sweet is definitely not foreseen. therefore, everything is going well, we are moving on, developing, developing . in we remember that then in the parliament and these balls and the position of the prime minister there and the position of the part of the parliament. well, like a swan, a crab and a pike. excuse me for the fable of this russian protest. the history of words. if i really like the genre like bitology, it's because, well, you can fantasize and show yourself different things and imagine that the ukrainian people's republic of ukraine in the 18th year survived and developed, developed together with the european community, as a large independent state or hetman skoropadsky

, why not? er, but we received other realities in 1991, unfortunately chornobyl could not win the elections and in 2008 the ukrainian elite was disunited as it was, although the president at that time and certain political forces did everything they could. well, there were politicians who behaved differently. was the free world as a whole ready to accept ukraine then? well, it was obviously not ready either, and together it all led to the fact that what do we have? they corrupted this russian bear and for some reason, the murderer putin thought that he had nothing to do with it. but there are limits that he cannot

feel, i.e. ukraine is already part of the free country the world is part of the euro-atlantic community, how are we moving at what speed ? the level of support for joining nato has exceeded 80% - this is a huge indicator, and with it, the percentage of people who insist on joining has literally increased by one and a half times over the last year, because a year ago some people could have preferred it, but now the vast majority is for joining nato, not just security guarantees, and you mentioned the liberation contests of a century ago . while in exile, he

wrote well, maybe not literally, but almost literally what we competed for, we fought for ukraine then, often with the complete complete indifference of the local population, unfortunately, now they have changed the situation in such a way that the population supports both their army and their government in these euro-atlantic orientations, the nation is a political category, of course, you had to be ukrainian by origin, you must be a citizen of ukraine and ukrainians who are ready to sacrifice something for the independence of their own country, and indeed at the beginning of the 20th century , we had a lot of ethnic ukrainians who,

however, did not fully understand the value of the state and they often did not understand that they are ukrainians since 1991, the percentage of ukrainians, political ukrainians, citizens of ukraine, ukrainians of different origins, but it became more and more and the stages were different. actually, the year 91 and 2001 were the orange revolution and, of course, the revolution of dignity. and in russia well, there the importance of society's opinion does not affect anything in our history, even the institutions were not dragged out, the society supported the initiative and, of course, the more pressure there was from putin's russia, in recent times it was putin's russia, the more opposition there was from ukraine. when you immerse yourself in your own imaginary world, invented by dugin or other schizophrenics, you lose your sense of reality. it seems to you that somewhere in kyiv you should be greeted with flowers, but instead you were greeted with tanks, automatic weapons and the bander

strip. and the more pressure there is from russia, the more ukrainian resistance. well, i hope that the next memoirs of ukrainian leaders will not be from emigration, but from ukrainian territory. i am sure that we have already passed this point and there will be no other. zaporizhzhia has a lot of questions about whether there is danger at the station, how much has the situation at the station changed now compared to what it was six months ago, the last aggravation took place after the russian terrorist attack of the explosion by racists of the kakhovskaya hpp and the dam, after that, additional work was carried out to mine objects on the territory of the zaporizhzhia station, in particular

, the cooling pool, explosives were previously brought to the station and mine work was carried out even last year, but after the explosion of the kakhovskaya g this is exactly what ec is these and other factors were activated and pointed to the preparation of the scenario of another terrorist attack and man-made catastrophe by racists, however, the last one recently is that the threat of this very scenario has now been pushed aside, but we must understand that for now the zaporizhia nuclear power plant e. and regaining control there the legitimate ukrainian authorities will ensure compliance with all the necessary safety standards , unrestricted access to international experts , specialists in the case of ss, try to comply with all standards, mr. andrii. well, i read