[000:00:00;00] it is for 700 thousand dollars and they will buy it, but they will not let it into the system and into the neighboring countries, because it is not only their funds, these funds are coming in now after the increase in the price of electricity for the population. they have distribution throughout the system, but they are not distributed and the debts are increasing, and as a result, other companies are not preparing as they should before the season, what do you say, well

, then it is a collapse, then it is a collapse. i understand when there is no money, no specialists, no equipment, no european friends who can help in one way or another, then when something is not there, then you understand why everything is not working well. and when everything is working worse than it could be, then something needs to be decided. and what can be resolved means collapse. ivan, look, i completely agree with alexey yuriyovych. well, we created it ourselves. i don't know how the situation was created. there are several in the energy industry, there is a decision-making center. well , there is absolutely no responsibility, just so you know, these decisions are made in the energy industry.

sometimes these people are not there, they bear absolutely no responsibility, so-so-so, they are created, and those who are engaged in executive work, they do not make decisions, but all the responsibility rests with her. unfortunately, we have created a system that is very threatening. well, look, for example, let's say a state company, well, a state company can be financed from the budget of the world bank. where there are e-eenergo loans, this is the property of ukrhydroenergo. ah , the energy center, you can get some money there what are these private companies supposed to do? we have 80% of energy workers in private companies. where can they get money today to restore this destroyed equipment? i think they have no money even to support what is left. why? because in the energy market, debt obligations are already growing. well, i don’t know about these hundreds of billions of debt and they are accumulating there . the financial system is paralyzed. systems in the energy e-e

sector, how to carry out work, prepare when the financial system is paralyzed, let's see. and what is the management algorithm of these oblenergos, who were the owners, who were the citizens of russia, i mean babakova and so on. who else manages today, what body are they managed or not in what status, and so on, there is also no, as i say, ringing er clarity . in the former minister of energy pavlo leads the head of the union

of the all-ukrainian energy assembly and oleksiy kucherenko is also a former minister, people's deputy, now the first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on energy and housing and communal services, and please keep this in mind for the audience. thank you, gentlemen. if it's going to be bad in winter, please remember today and two of the best or one of the best e-e specialists in ukraine, who talked about the fact that everything is there , but it's not a fact that everything will be in winter, namely hot water, heat, energy , light, and so on and so on. well, let 's go next now from such sad things to

andriyko sylov, lawyer, associate professor of the university of warsaw, coordinator of the sunflowers project. as i understand it, this is sunflowers. it means that this is a project that is called to investigate the war crimes of the russian federation in ukraine. if they show me andriy, i would ask him something. military-military the crimes of the russian federation in ukraine and where are you concentrated, what are the crimes, because i imagine half of the criminal code or the entire criminal code of the world can be involved in order to blame the russians, but what is your sunflowers project aimed at the most, well, i want to clarify a little, the purpose of the project is not the investigation of crimes, but the collection of information that can be used as evidence and can be used as evidence in future processes before the national

them by courts of different countries but also international ones criminal courts, that is, collecting information for this purpose, the e-e project has developed a special platform on which everyone who was a witness of a war crime or another international crime, i.e. a crime, also a crime of genocide, a crime against humanity, can register on this platform, a very short form, after that a witness is contacted by a potential witness, our volunteer who receives already helps fill out a more detailed form to have this information, that is, the purpose is to collect

information that later can be used as evidence is already in court proceedings and okay, okay, this is an accumulation of information anyway, you may have to do not conduct an investigation, but if you were to study it, you would know it and how many are currently registered on your platform, or what number of these crimes we are talking about, it is hundreds - it is thousands, it is tens of thousands, so the form is now just being completed. servers that can withstand the highest possible level of protection, similar to the banking system to security systems. that is, we have developed it, and uh, already in august, the platform will start working

, that is , the maximum is september 1. also lawyers from great britain eh from the netherlands but also with ukraine in general if such a platform for the creation of eh project eh was the association international association of criminal law eh in paris which is a very quite authoritative organization that was already created even before the second world war and eh participation in making a decision on the creation of this project was actually first of all groups of the so-called national sections of the international association of criminal law from poland and eh and eh ukraine

that is, first of all, these are scientists, professor e universities, but also judges, including in the court of the supreme court, these are also prosecutors of the office of the former prosecutor of the office of the prosecutor of the international criminal court, and in fact together, everyone decided that it is necessary to help in this way right now. at this stage, since the first thing is to provide evidence, and the volume of russian war crimes in ukraine is huge, no national legal system will cope

with this on its own. for the sake of that, of course, we think that andriy's question, if it wasn't like it is in russia, it's just that when ukrainian lawyers tell me with pride and say, "we have 80,000 cases there and we'll be there, i'm sitting there, it's 80,000 investigators, it's 80,000 prosecutors, it's 80,000 lawyers, if we want to do it in a civilized way, it's 80,000 courts, that is, it's hard for me to imagine the amount of work and you absolutely confirm that right now that well, no national justice system can handle this. and there are some ideas. how is it possible? well, how can you attract foreigners? they all need to know the ukrainian language, if we are talking about some criminal offense, there should be a lawyer, a prosecutor here and there, five-tenths of the time they have to come here to kyiv or to lviv or to odesa

. i just like this one, this one is a lot of legal work. i just don't even imagine it. well, this is today's world . until the 90s. some of them died recently or someone else has already been involved, which has been there for 90 or 100 years. how to deal with this. someone is sitting in europe and thinking about how to make sure that justice is served, because this is the main question, that is, look, if no one prepared for the invasion, and those who, except for putin, are not allowed to do so, and these processes that began, at the very beginning, they had such a chaotic, chaotic course, but they are gradually

becoming systematized, that is probably such a key body if we are talking about international persecution, it is currently the moment is the organization of the body that unites the prosecutor's office and the courts of the european union and within the framework of eurojust, a special investigative group has been created, which includes prosecutors and investigators from different countries, and this is the first plane in which all this happens . in russia, the

plane is persecution by ukrainians by national authorities, yes, today on the website of the general prosecutor's office of ukraine, the office of the prosecutor general, there is information that 90,000 cases have already been initiated. in the event of a case being initiated, there is a huge number. and what i would like to draw attention to is that, in principle, within each of these procedures , trials can take place even in the national courts of other countries. the criminal code in most

countries allows for the so-called universal jurisdictions, that is, for example, a polish prosecutor can open a criminal case regarding a crime against humanity, a war crime committed on the territory of any country in the world, and such cases of the prosecutor's office. that is, these are cases that will take place independently of other processes of judicial investigators and will be considered in polish courts in the future. prosecutors of the netherlands, prosecutors of canada, prosecutors of canada, that is, they initiate criminal proceedings in themselves. and things are relative of crimes committed in ukraine and i am convinced that these cases will also be brought to an end. of course, this is not a quick process, but they can also be considered within the national courts of individual countries , because in view of this volume

, it is definitely worth dividing these tasks. tribunal, at least for the crime of aggression, which is not subject to investigation by the international court, gas, that is, these processes, at the moment, have certain elements of chaos, but little by little, they are being structured, and i think that in the near future, in the near future, everything will be ordered and move in one direction

. what kind of crimes are they on ukrainian territory and so at the end of august, at the beginning of september, maybe there will be such a list and everyone will be able to complain there and tell their story. now we will go home, we will find out, we will return home . skovsky of the patriarchate to the russian orthodox church in moscow, it's very strange, we talked about it yesterday too, they prayed with cyril and for the army of the russian federation, these are 12 bishops who went to moscow, these are primarily those bishops who in the occupied territories, they already agreed a long time ago that these occupied territories are a great russian

world. but we can say this to mr. mykola knyazhytsky p mykola good health thank you for finding time for us and the question is still about mr. tkachenko, about the minister, we know, well, here we are discussing, definitely, on the one hand, you can’t say that he is so very, very, very active, you can’t say that he shows how he showed some initiative, somehow it was always the impression that if someone showed initiative, then the minister also showed initiative, and the reactivity is like that, and on the other hand, today his colleagues said that there is simply no money, no powers, no this, no that, so there is no point in being a minister if your

wings are clipped and how would and i and about and is contra where you hello, mr. mykola. what can you say about the minister? who is still the minister? as far as i understand, the decision of the verkhovna rada has not yet been made. how will you vote? maybe you will be in favor of the majority minister. well, i represent a positional faction that directly criticizes the government in general and this ministry. it is obvious that we will vote for his resignation, even though we have not had a meeting of the faction yet . and we criticize in general, the approach to what is called cultural policy in the country, because the days before i was against the wall, at the same time, in general , we did not see anything good about this government. we did not see anything good during our time in the verkhovna rada. the representatives of our faction protect the ukrainian language. we protect ukrainian culture, the ukrainian book. we initiate laws in this area. of

ukraine quality ukrainian films that have won at international festivals are not filmed, instead, cheap tv series named after povoroznyuk are filmed. obviously, all this has a very indirect relationship with culture. the ministry is also responsible for censorship, which we have on the air. does not like their leadership, not to mention the opposition independent channels are closed and it is obvious that in such a situation i support the actions of the ministry, i do not personalize it because for me this entire cabinet of ministers is unfortunately very far from democracy, and if it were not for the war, it is obvious that this government would have been gone for a long time, and since the war, everyone is united because the enemy wants to destroy this government and us

and the proposal . nyuk instead in order to allocate funds for the ukrainian army, but this is such a specific field called culture, and there are some cultural management specialists. i don't know if there are any in ukraine, or if there is a person who understands that on the one hand it is culture and on the other hand it is money, and you have to be both a cold financier and a hot cultural figure and to know where to direct all the money that the state gives, what can you say ? there

will be an empty place because there are no such experts and mykola, you are right to a certain extent. how paradoxical does it sound, mr. tako. i think he was the best for this government because he agreed to censor independent media. but at the same time, he really had an idea of ​​what culture is, and he speaks english brilliantly. he has experience working as an international journalist with and without him. well, he simply agreed to release all these series that no one needs, limit freedom of speech, and do many other bad things in principle , and keep it all in a pile so that this government

i liked it, but to find such a second tkachenko, i think it will be very difficult, because it is difficult to find a person with the knowledge that oleksandr has, who would agree to those fundamentally undemocratic things that he did, but it is always easy to find, i'm sorry, a fool, but he will do it very badly, and if it is someone smart, he will not simply agree to it, so in this somewhat cultural country, we have many wonderful and talented cultural managers who, under democratic conditions, would be able to greatly help culture and society because culture and society is the only thing that promotes us in the west, what helps us to win, then what features the minister of culture and censorship should have is very difficult for me to pronounce. well, as a matter of fact, it is so, and this is the question, yes, yes, yes. well, it is called the culture of information policy, because information policy in the understanding of this government is censorship, then you are right, it is the minister of culture and censorship

, eh. to be what should such a person do? i would like it to be ok, i would like it to be a patriotic, intelligent, highly educated, effective person with strong managerial qualities, with knowledge of how the ministry of culture works in most european countries, because we are on the path to european integration, a person for whom ukrainian culture is an extremely great value, who understands everything, starting with the fact that modern libraries should be made in society as new hubs for the unification

of society in what way to preserve museums engage in their digitization, in what way, to make sure that films are produced and that these films are of high quality, and deal with many other important matters, including cultural education, now the second important question is the shaky ground, how do i stand, but still i will stand, and such a person will be allowed to work. mykola, whom i have not seen yet, but i hope to see in the near future. it depends on the system of values ​​that this government has the ruling party's servants of the people will not provide it, it is impossible to hope for that that they change their approaches, not so much in civilian life, but it is possible, or you want to unite ukrainian society in general , regardless of political views. moreover, we are in a critical military situation in order to discuss and jointly come to a strategy for the development of ukrainian culture in a warring country, what it should be, and how it should work

. i know a person that among the proposals that they discussed among themselves, the majority of such people were and they know that so far these people have not given their consent precisely because censorship still needs to be done, uh, another important question is the proposal of president zelensky that we need to look for money elsewhere, but not in the budget, because the budget is concentrated. well, what seems logical to me is the war, and if there are any extra-budgetary opportunities, then they should be used, is it possible at all, in your opinion, and this is this the right advice in the next minister, we will say so from

the president, well, look at me, we spend 0.28 percent on culture, less than a third of a percent. look at how much is spent on various other areas and how much is stolen and culture is just a pittance in our budget. and there should be more on culture. i am convinced that we need to spend more money, but you don't mean culture by culture, and not on removing scumbags, that's the difference. what exactly is culture, and of course we need to spend money on it because we are fighting to preserve our identity i say ukrainians no, we need to prove to the whole world that we are and unite the nation, that's why every warring country always pays a lot of attention to culture, and then they say that we don't need to pay this attention, then it's obvious that he's an enemy of this country or just a close and limited person . of course

, you need to look for extra-budgetary funds as help. but it would be good for the state to invest in this. at the same time, such commercial products as series can be filmed by the channels themselves and spending money now on the so-called marathon or on the channels at all makes no sense. it would be better to spend these funds on really high culture and to present this high culture in the world . in your opinion , where did this idea come from? i was just shown, i was a little shocked. i wouldn't have dared to make a movie about a fool. here he is, by the way. that's how he looks, maybe he's a beautiful person. i don't know. and in general, this idea is where he sat three times. they say he is, well, not the characters of the novel by an intelligent person. how did this idea come about? how do you have any knowledge about this steam locomotive and why he suddenly became the center of cultural events in ukraine, but i saw him quite a lot on the same channel 1+1, which promoted him because well,

if there is a person who is just a lot i'm sorry, i'm swearing, i'm using obscene language, i'm threatening someone, i'm insulting someone, they're showing it on some tv channel for no political reason, it's obvious that this person is being promoted because there are tens of thousands of such rude people in ukraine . you understand, god willing

i don't know him, maybe he's a good entrepreneur and businessman and he doesn't know it. i've heard different people. someone says yes. someone says that there are a lot of such pubs in ukraine, but they're definitely not war heroes . he's not an outstanding volunteer . he's not a brilliant politician who brought us into nato. you can make a movie about him. and a political career for myself things are terrible now, i am disappointed in the world, i do not see justice, i am turning to you as deputies of the verkhovna rada, is it possible to make an exception for forests to bash the russian federation, i really like to bash the russian federation, but i can't say everything i think about putin and russia and the pro-russian army, because the legislator forbids me to do so, we have to make some exceptions panakov i believe that your beautiful rich vocabulary is enough to say everything you think about him without these words that they

invented to destroy in principle in that including our culture, because these are their words. well, if you want to use ukrainian, so to speak, motherfuckers or ukrainian slurs, then our law does not prohibit it, you can say that he is a prute, but i can say that he is a prute and will not, er, move. thank you very much mykola, the people's deputy of ukraine from donsk was in touch with us and told us about the last, let's say, cultural events in ukraine related to the resignation of the minister of culture . anna eva melnyk will read them will tell and explain to her the word russia has already lost the war in ukraine considering what goals