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, an american military pilot. what a man worked more than a dozen hours on f-16 fighter jets, markfegin, a member of the russian opposition, our current guest, peter greenburgh, an american military pilot, volunteer and military instructor, will also work on our broadcast. i congratulate you dear mr. peter, thank you for the invitation. i am very pleased with how much the f-16 can change the situation on the battlefield. well, i would just like to ask you to tell me what you are like as a person who has spent more than one hundred hours on f-1 aircraft. 6 good news is that the f-16 is a very successful system they have long been used well and many countries use them important to understand that it is more than just a plane than a physical shell knowing the wings of the engine these things are part of the larger system he includes weapons of weapons of radar and even more important the whole system that supports in 16 inclusive with the intelligence system of observation, which is a lot

of ukraine. will protect as a city infrastructure and civilian population and i believe will help ukrainian soldiers on the battlefield f16 is not magic it is a mechanical system an electronic system and it is a machine controlled by a person and although it has been well updated over the years and in some cases has very modern and advanced technologies it is still of the same generation as well as russian planes and in fact even older generation than the latest russian surface to air missiles it would be too optimistic to think that the f-16 even

a significant number of them can simply fly through and then to clear everything from hostile rockets earth air and to clear the sky from hostile planes, so it is a very difficult and difficult problem with the solution of which western troops of nato troops spent huge amounts of money efforts of weapons and technologies not all these technologies will come to ukraine this essence is quite likely to be a small amount of pilots . these f-16 general system the overall picture of the war in order to understand i don't know this picture it is possible i think it is a lot of people are watching the situation on the ground very carefully and of course the ukrainians are watching the defense of their nation from air attacks but in fact you know the details where the enemy systems are

and what their capabilities are i believe that for many people in the west this was one of the wrong assumptions of people in the west, as well as those here in ukraine , if the f16 cannot solve this problem, then it is said that we do not need it or will not be useful, but it does not end like this. the battlefield without even getting close to the battlefield because the west has invested heavily in precision long-range weapons and these weapons have been improved even after i stopped flying more than five years ago so the idea that the f16 is just going to slide in and solve all the problems is beautiful but it's wrong what we know so it's that this is good news for ukraine and very bad news for russia the use of the f16

will hinder the enemy in his work i agree the russians are not just in are waging war against ukraine, they are killing our civilians they are hitting civilian objects, this is another war crime on the part of the russians, because they know what coordinates they are working on, on the other hand, we understand what we are talking about f16 and we understand that this training must be comprehensive and this training is not only for pilots, not only for our aviators, we understand that this is one story, the second story is protected airfields, this is an air defense system , and the third is general communication, all these areas are important, the training of battlefield control

, radar teams, analysts, intelligence where to search and identification of targets is a whole system, it is not like, say, in boxing, boxers are given by their opponent, the referee gives appropriate conditions of the environment, the rules of the judge and the understanding of the beginning and end, everything is not so much faster, it is like a fight in a bar, where any techniques are used, there are no rules . chicks demonstrated just the literal meaning miracles are very often at the cost of one's life, miracles not only of heroism but also of skill. so when it comes to the use of our ukrainian aviation during the first phase of a full-scale russian invasion, how long do you think it would take to normally train a ukrainian pilot who, for example, worked on mig 29 before that? this is all that is worth seeing. pilot training is difficult. first of all , you need to understand that pilot training is only part of the problem. also,

the problems of logistics, supply, and equipment must be solved. that repair aircraft must learn to do this, this is a completely different system of aircraft than the one with which they are now familiar for pilots, it is best to say that the training will last not weeks, although not years, but months, it will take several months to train ukrainian mig-29 pilots so that they can fly 16 and to master in 16 what i will tell them, they will love this aircraft, it is easy to fly, it is extremely computerized, digitized , and we already know that the mig-29 uses a certain set of western weapons, for example

, harm missiles for pressure of the enemy's air defense systems they drop gps-guided munitions and other storchadol-type missiles, other special weapons, and i will tell you, i don’t know the details of how it was possible to integrate these weapons now, but it is definitely much more difficult to use and was able to 29 smart weapons have their own requirements, first of all, they need more information, because that is why they are smart almost the same as you and i, so to get such a weapon in the right city at the right time we need speed and conditions and to make these things happen , it is very difficult on an airplane that is not was for developed by this, many, many of these problems have already been solved on the f16. even the fact that the f-16 is older than most of these weapons, all this is already integrated on the platform in electronics, what i can say for sure is that if the ukrainian pilots are already doing what they are doing and quite successfully, then they will do it even more successfully with new modern equipment . by the way, i also don't

know what weapons and equipment will arrive on those f-16 in order to gain air planning despite the enormous resistance of the russian military, they have good equipment, their planes are not bad, i mean that there are good technologies used there and they have been working on their improvement for years, i believe that they still lag behind western technologies, but still i do not know how much is needed to gain air supremacy, but i know that the defense of ukraine will seriously gain on the way to obtaining air supremacy, air superiority is extremely important for the american or nato this is just part of the how we conduct operations. but if we see what ukraine has already done, without having this air superiority, you restrained the enemy and pushed him back in many places, this means that even without superiority in the air locally - whether it is on a wider territory, a lot can be done, for example, f16 can work quite far behind, they can defend the airspace of cities, this will not have a direct effect on the front line, but will have an indirect effect, the more f16 can defend cities and infrastructure, the more

and other systems can be used closer this effect is adaptive to the front line, having the f16, the ukrainians can successfully use other systems and will have the opportunity to move them to obtain a greater effect, we should also not forget about the long-range systems that have the f16, this is the weapon that ukraine already has, not even on the front line itself, but being outside the radio range of the enemy systems or aircraft, the latest fighters such as the f-16 have an intensive effect on the battlefield, i am not a soldier and do not understand ground operations, but i can say that there will be opportunities in order to destroy the fortifications, the defense line, the troops buried in the ground, the weapons warehouses that are now being attacked with the help of both ukrainian and western weapons, the enemy will not feel safe. when ukraine gets the opportunity to actually deliver

a long-range strike, at least the occupiers will either retreat or die. they will not be able to move forward, so they will most likely move back . it takes a long time to practice skills on simulator chairs, or i don’t know on inflatable bmps, but still everything is decided by specific training on a combat vehicle and then psychological readiness for combat. i am impressed by what your pilots are doing now based on very old information about how ukrainian pilots acted years ago. in fact, now a lot of new tactics and weapons have appeared. based on old knowledge, i can say that the main thing is that western aircraft provide the pilot with much more

information and opportunities for the ability to conduct operations more freely and make decisions already in the air in real time, which is not available now on those old planes, simply because the pilot will have more information, western military aircraft in the last 20 or 30 years, their production and design have advanced tremendously, the delivery of information to the pilot, providing a complete picture of what is around him, makes it possible to make the best decisions in real time, so the first problem may be a certain overload of information. but i am sure that they will learn not only to fly and to use f16 but also to control it in a way that will surprise western instructors ukrainian military shows every time that it is not only about accuracy and clarity but about the possibilities of innovation and finding new ways of using new technologies and using old technologies in this case they will feel the difference in 16 this is the quality of the old button on the phone switch to a modern smartphone it is computerized digitalized and made easy to use it is designed so that all

the switches are all the buttons that are needed in battle located right under your fingers, you are surrounded by two computer screens as well as a display that shows everything so that you can potentially be interested in allies from friendly aircraft, enemy forces and means, there is a lot that needs to be learned, but i am sure that ukrainian pilots will not be surprised by western tactics and the current way that nato uses in 16, but still there are many different ways to achieve the goal and i am sure that they will find them ways peter well, if you were a general eisenhower so in what way would it be

possible to appeal to president biden well historical parallels to president roosevelt and you would have to voice your needs. this is what you would say dear mr. president, in order to do or achieve extremely specific results on the battlefield, in particular, for example, in the south of our state in the south of ukraine. i need, i don’t know, 50 or 100 f16 20 petri batteries and 150 storm shadow or i don’t know scalp missiles and so on , roughly how do you estimate the number of this complex that could significantly change the situation on the battlefield this is a great question to answer it, i needed the level of information of details that only the ukrainian genstadt has, i could fantasize, but the ukrainian reality shows a number of factors, how difficult it is for you to defend yourself, ukraine is a large european country and you are surrounded by enemy forces on three sides, even in eastern moldova, plus the black sea, the east, the southeast, and belarus in the north

. it's just those capabilities shown by the ukrainian military, there is definitely such a list somewhere. and only the general staff can tell you this, but to know this, you need to take into account a lot of information, not only information about the capabilities and numbers of the enemy, but also what are the ukrainian capabilities from the location and use of various systems . 16 and f-15 were here and worked with ukrainian airbases, so this is a very complex issue. if i could advise the president, a simple guy, an ordinary citizen, i would say that the generals sent to ukraine everything that they ask for. if ukraine, the ukrainian government asks for something, the basic answer should be yes, and then investigate whether there are possible reasons why not. i do not know all the decisions that are made. but in february 2022, i thought that they would need 16 and i am ready to go

. tables like this and so on but i will say that a lot is needed to get this plane into the air, a lot of equipment is needed, it is correct that it is necessary to make sure that there are landing sites and the location of these systems before they arrive in ukraine, but i am also disappointed, like many ukrainians, that it took so long to get the best weapons to defend our country, we can imagine the front line and temporarily occupied cities that the russians turned into fortified areas

pol or berdyansk and for example, a combat task comes to this or that anonymous ukrainian pilot or i don’t know to the squadron commander, for example, to destroy a tank column under the military field, yes. accordingly, we understand that on the one hand our radars are working, russian radars are working, the satellite tracking system is working, we understand that the air defense system is already heated to the red color well, accordingly, the squadrons must be advanced when you say to do the job, then you must destroy all the russian tanks in ukraine, and there are a lot of them, the f16 can not to be the best choice for this specific task, when you look at the tactical problems of such an operation, the main thing is to force the enemy to retreat correctly and if you use infantry forces without air superiority, then this is what you need to do if there are such opportunities, i can say how nato allies use air support if there is an opportunity and it is safe and not too close to their troops, then this also involves local control of the air space, because

you need enough freedom of action to find such small mo targets as tanks is not an easy and very difficult task , even for such a weapon, the smaller and more mobile the target, the closer you need to get to it. if you use weapons from a long distance, based on that , the detachments were a few hours ago, they can simply be in another place. there are weapons that simply hit and explode. there are other options, but you need to evaluate how to correctly solve these problems. operations, evaluation of the capabilities of weapons to achieve the goal on the battlefield, we do not know how they will use the f16, the things we imagine are different even from what the pilots imagine, based on the experience of participating in combat operations or on films and history books, i am sure that ukraine will use the f-16 in such a way that it will definitely surprise us, and this includes the correct use of aircraft and its arrival on the battlefield and in the necessary place again, at the same time, we

understand that combat aviation is not only about attacks on the battlefield are also about the protection of civilian objects, so the russians regularly killed my fellow citizens with rockets, with the help of their aircraft, they took and killed ten lviv residents in one night, they took and killed several odessans or residents of mykolaiv, they use aviation to attack civilian objects and civilian cities . actions having western warplanes in the role of air defenders you will definitely create big problems the russian aviation that attacks ukraine, many of these weapons that they really use to hit civilian infrastructure and commit war crimes are long-range weapons, in many cases they are not so accurate

, we could talk about the accuracy of their use next to civilian objects, which in itself is already a crime in many cases . 16 have the ability to destroy cruise missiles, which are difficult to defend against, the f-16 has the ability to fight drones, which are very difficult to defend against because they are small and slow, they are difficult to detect, like anything in this war, new equipment does not solve all problems at once when the patriots arrived, many people said that well, the patriots are here , so it won’t be like that anymore. 16 will operate

, let's say, only in the west of ukraine, where they are will be able to feel stronger, this will give an opportunity to move the ground air defense systems somewhere else and protect other locations in general, what is happening in the so-called market of combat pilots, are there any bans in certain countries, for example, there is one or the other, i don't know a veteran of the iraq war - a citizen of the united states or great britain, he is 50 years old, we understand how to fly, he can fly, he knows how, but the ukrainian state would say listen, dear john, we need you this is a difficult question there is a force-strong f16 in the world maybe 4,000 boards were produced over the years, so of course there are many pilots in 16, we must not forget that the f-16 is a system that functions within a larger system, it is communication in real-time, decision-making together with commanders, intelligence analysts, all these things must work together and the simple presence of foreign pilots will not solve the problem, they can theoretically be from different countries and fly different versions of the f16, because there are many of them, they can know and use different

tactics even a group of f16 pilots everything equally in need of training and preparation to use the plane in these conditions accordingly, another problem is that the training of pilots is worth millions of dollars access to information, so if you imagine that nativ pilot has just climbed the aircraft and would like to come simply have no right to do it because of certain conditions it will be illegal . and to be in the rest of the country and it is a great responsibility of the leadership of ukraine to transfer such weapons into the hands of foreign pilots. the pilot can also die, they can shoot him down and he will be captured. these are big threats. this does not solve some problems. so i think that ukraine will find a way to adopt world experience. there will be instructors and experts, but most likely it will be ukrainian pilots who will defend their country on the f16. peter, your first

combat flight, or rather, your feeling during the first combat flight . charm, but my combat experience is not very good exciting is very rare melee combat plane vs. plane maybe there are five or six guys left who remember what it's like to be in close combat shoot down the enemy i took part in operations in iraq and a little bit in afghanistan i must say that in general i felt safe i was in such conditions that did not threaten my personal safety on the other hand this danger was with the guys on the ground so of course i was worried but probably more to succeed to fulfill the task of helping and ensuring the survival of the boys on

earth and so that they can successfully fulfill their mission mission, so what your pilots are dealing with is much more difficult, they are in constant danger, i honestly have no doubts about their bravery. thank you very much, peter, for this frank and extremely interesting conversation. i want to remind our tv viewers that peter greenburgh, an american military pilot, volunteer, a person who knows about f16s, if not everything, then almost everything, worked for them on the espresso tv channel. in 2023 , the espresso tv channel continues to lead the top

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caring people in the evening nayspresso is now a studio espresso will be operated by mark fagin of the russian opposition on emigration, a former member of the state duma, an iconic video blogger, glory to ukraine, mark, i congratulate you as a hero, i salute you, anton well, marco putin has been struggling for a long time, but such people are not going to south africa. he is not going to south africa . we are

predicting ego not trip i after all, if even the president of south africa, ramoforsa, had declared that they would ignore the legal obligation in the international criminal court, he would not have dared to go. yes, this is a long distance of 12,500 km. he will fly on a plane to hell through a restless region , where this plane is so amazing that this plane, by the way, does not necessarily have to be completely off the ground. he has enough clearly visible ill-wishers within the russian government . god knows what they would do with it. but we didn't go exactly to the first one turn due to security issues as for this situation itself, but he did not decide to issue a diplomatic task, it was important that he would not go as a poet, he lek, by the way, will take part in what was announced to pay lavrov, it was to obtain from vasyl south africa a statement that they will not execute the warrant, this is important even for putin, the story with this morger is very painful, and once - if one country does not execute it, then the second third will not be removed. semi-public structures are presented , which can be ignored, especially since yua did not fulfill this order for the presidency at the time. this is the task that i have for you. it is