[000:00:00;00] ah about taking into account the interests and e-e not a return to the blocking of the confrontation of the chinese usually dislike in europe, since it actually creates e-e such networks and alliances by americans with allies and partners in the inter -chian region to restrain china, that is, ideological from the point of view of the future of the united states and the federation of the united states and

ala you want us to match the americans helped you to deal with russia and then you concentrated your efforts on us. of course we don't want that. that is, it's a simple far formula on which china's foreign policy in relation to ukraine is based , including p . oleksandr . sources some say that this is some kind of production some say that his arrest was delayed due to the fact that he could cooperate with the fsb and it could be some kind of threat to putin, what is your vision of this situation, that this is what is happening there? well, i think it should be considered in the context of a crazy attack, which prigozhin's march for justice in moscow carried out. that is, it is a blow to the autocracy, that is, that there is one person who controls everything and she does everything right . of course, prigozhin also criticized quite a lot

. not only in such unpleasant forms of putin himself the military leadership, but everyone is a powerful figure because of course, well, it is possible that there are some people who support him. of course it is. but the most important thing is that they cannot simply destroy him now. most likely, they will remove him a little later. in other words, i have no doubts, because even from the 14th year we saw that all those ukrainian traitors or russian murderers who were in the donbass or in the crimea are being quietly purged so that there would be no witnesses if they did not have some kind of influence

. but in the history of russia, there is the year 37 and so on before all these constant purges, they simply became part of the political dna, and unlike the well-known er, he does not have such support, he does not have several thousand fighters behind him who can do something in russia or belarus or in african countries, and of course what he said and compared there, i think that here is the question of sexual orientation, gender, gender, er, affiliation, it is very sensitive for putin, and he compared him there to a woman and even worse . putin cannot survive the insult the most important thing is that what girkin says, no matter how much he is a terrorist, so far it is true, that is, that in fact putin, having started this war and led it, thus failed to the end for the russian federation, he actually puts the russian federation into question, because in fact he destroys the scraps that were laid down and spent

. i didn't have to remove such a person i think they will do 6 physical with him. rather not, but this was compensation for the inability to do something with a more powerful player, a beautiful beauty in bute earlier. and i think i will still use this one, because even in the booter, he has the opportunity to write something on twitter . which

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a ukrainian view the war continues and not only that for territory, this is also a war for minds russia throws millions of petrodollars to turn ukrainians into a small country ukraine is in the state of the highway analysis and analysis of information about ukraine by russian propagandists specific facts and methods by which hostile propaganda turns people into obedient zombies ruyut progolosovat residents of the ldr let's counter the informational attacks of the russians in the project of the chronicle of the information war with olga laziness tuesday thursday friday at 1 7:10 a.m. on the espresso tv channel

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informed means armed see the economy news project with andriy yanitsky on weekdays at 8:10 on espresso, so what, we're back on the live air, er, with me on a direct line, oleksandr hara, er, an expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies, before mr. oleksandr returned to the conversation with you, i'll look on youtube, who's watching us, 1120 people are watching, join me, and here's the answer to the question i asked at the beginning, why is putin shelling the center of odessa gave already 21 people, 85% believe that this is for intimidation for accidentally 5% and your option 10% well, continue to vote, and the final results will be similar. of course, at the end of the program, mr. oleksandr. now, let's talk about the grain agreement. there were many statements made from different parts of the world after this russian démarche. since when they said that they were suspending their part of this agreement, let's listen to what they said about it

. i let's listen to many problems for many people all over the world, from our side, we will do everything possible through our ways of solidarity so that ukrainian grain is delivered to hungry people, and i blame russia for this absolutely unjustified decision, and that is why we fully support all the efforts of the un secretary general to ensure the continuity of this agreement. well, now let's listen to what the minister of foreign affairs of germany said again about this black sea grain initiative . the land is

necessary for the world grain is no longer possible export last night the russians also shelled the port in odesa. and this shows that the russian president is not only shelling ukraine, not every missile aimed at the port of odesa is also a missile against starving people around the world. well, today the president of turkey, recep tayyip erdogan, should also meet with representatives of his security council to discuss this issue and to prepare for the upcoming conversation with the kremlin dictator putin , mr. oleksandr, your vision for the future of this initiative, that is, two things i am interested in a-a do

what limits can putin push and what limits will the west stand to? well, let's start from the beginning, this initiative gave ukraine the opportunity to export more than 30 million tons of food to foreign markets and, accordingly, to receive certain money for it, and of course this is a national interest, but also a humanitarian interest in the fact that fewer people starve, uh, well, let's say so, despite the fact that russia is blocking and at war with ukraine. but the most important thing is that you see how the russians created a new reality . whatever she wants it is not called that in fact, when a year ago, these two mirror agreements were signed that they actually have the black sea at least its northern western part of the action already shifted the second

moment of course that is what really is by sanctions were not applied to the russian banks and agricultural companies because the europeans and americans did not want to create a jump in these prices, which happened. and now they are creeping up again, but for russia it is an opportunity to earn more . by the way, russians earned 70% more on the same fertilizers than last year, thanks to the unstable situation, this is one benefit of the russian federation ation another benefit give that they want to sell it the exclusion from the sanctions of several banks there campaigns and the forcing of ukraine to export ammonia through a wire from tolyatti, that is, in fact, they want to destroy at least a little er the sanctions system in order to later develop success, blackmailing is these things or some other er to destroy these sanctions front in relation to

them, that is, it is profitable for them to continue the blockade and, of course, the destruction of ukrainian infrastructure, and by the way, at night they attacked our port reni e grain this is how they cause a blow to the owner in the ukrainian ability to feed the world and get money for it and the second point - the most important - they are destroying the ukrainian industry as such because the idea of ​​destroying the ukrainian nation is based on the fact that ukraine should be deprived of the industrial potential of the economy by ukraine, which gave the opportunity for ukrainians to return to ukraine to work and rebuild for their state and the second point, of course, to generate the money that the security and defense sector needed, and

that's exactly why i think that putin has there is a possibility to withstand this pressure, he literally yesterday published an article related to measures with africans, where he says that russia is ready to replace ukrainian grain with russian, both on a commercial and non-free basis, that is, in fact, they are playing on the mood and independence of the global rooster, especially africa from food, and want to create greater pressure on the political and on europeans, especially my americans, and possibly waves of migratory refugees in if we say so , the situation will be critical in those countries that are extremely dependent on supply ukrainian grain well, we remember how it was, uh, actually, when merkel's angelic government suffered a rather powerful blow in connection with the activism of the russian military in syria, terrible bombings, such as we see now already on our territory, and in this wave, waves of syrian refugees went to the european union through turkey, and actually this caused certain political changes, as germany itself lost several elections in

these countries, uh, and of course, the arrival of extreme right-wing forces in other countries. well, that means became the cause of even more strained relations between by the turks and the europeans, because the turks wanted compensation for holding back these waves of refugees. of course, the turks needed money for this and there. well, the calculations are quite a separate matter, but we see that putin is trying to play this card once more, and will lr succeed in playing his card one more time after he talks with putin and possibly return putin to fulfill his part of the agreement? of course he will do it, but the cardigan played quite well in vilnius and by supporting the membership of ukraine and

unblocked sweden's membership i understand what it is was part of the agreement by the swedes themselves, so the most important thing with the americans is the purchase and modernization in 16. and i think this is the most important thing. that is, you editor showed that he is a reliable partner of the west, that he does not want to play an even more independent role, that nato unity is too important for him, and he hopes that the answer will be clear, and by the way, on the 20th, there was a meeting of the minister of foreign affairs, and if there was one of the points improving relations or restoring active relations with turkey therefore, of course, erdoğan played the russian card to the maximum, whether he will be able to find any arguments for putin, i don't know yet, but he is quite a powerful player and of course he does not depend on russia. i want to remind you again that russia continued, at one time, this action of the grain agreement, giving literally a few days of populace to use it in his election campaign, and the agreement ended there according to the russians, according to this vision, it literally seems three or four the days

after the end of the elections are now exactly from the roof it doesn't depend on it. he won't delay it, but i think it is, or in principle, turkey is a detour for goods, including dual purpose goods from china and from other countries. the same chips are supplied from, it seems, saudi arabia was, and then turkey and kazakhstan. of course, plus turkey is such a safe harbor for russian businesses that were forced to leave european countries . i'm not talking about expats, i'm telling you about e

there are expensive yachts and real estate there buy that's exactly why turkey will be such an important asset for the russians. i think uldogana has arguments in favor of putin returning to this agreement. well, we'll see their phone conversation. literally in a few days, it should take place, at least that's what was announced in ankara, and their meeting that in a personal meeting in turkey, where putin should fly to this meeting and we'll see what happens, but let's discuss another president. alexander, president of brazil , lulu da silva. last week, he said about the fact that the world is getting tired of war is why it is soon it will end. he is one of the few, but still the number of leaders who talk about this world fatigue from war is growing. alexander, it is already becoming a trend. well, first of all, gula was personally tired of war before he became president again. yes, that is, there was a rather large article about him, and he actually repeated russian propaganda like a parrot, but you know all these communists

and leftists. they consider the american empire to be in his it means marxist cities. ukraine should have surrendered long ago to give crimea and everything that putin wants so that the interests of other countries do not suffer. of course, it should not be taken into account. if we are talking about europeans , then i definitely do not see such an urbanist anywhere

. the energy sector continues gas contracts and they want to build another one for nuclear uh, that means uh, nuclear reactors on their territory uh, they fly to moscow, the only one, the only european uh, you say yes, the leader, that's why, of course. they are tired if we talk about the global south. well, they are suffering, so they believe in russian propaganda like this, but by and large, if they really penetrated the importance of what this conflict between ukraine and russia really is from the point of view of the formation of security structures of the 21st century and the processes that will be happen i think they are we could do a lot more, we see china, which is actually silently on the russian side, so it does not give weapons to the russian federation, but in fact it is. i don’t know, i help with the economic plan in the technological plan of the russian

federation . er world security architecture or what it is will be formed in the future, so i think that it was just like that for them when they look at food or food shortages in certain countries. of course they mention ukraine, but i don’t think that there are problems of their own. moreover, they think that the west is not enough. it was attentive to their problems. why should they now be attentive to the ukrainian problem

? let’s say to respond in a positive way to calls to get on the good side of history. the next election in the united states, we can actually see what the trumpians are fighting for because you stopped aid to ukraine and trump has already announced his brilliant plan to end the war in ukraine in two days. i wanted to call you a little later, but since you have already started, you are a professional diplomat. i want to hear your answer to this question, but first let's listen to what trump actually said. let's listen to trump directly. you know that i have excellent relations with putin. would say he needed to negotiate how zelensky also said that one should negotiate one of them that he would get a lot of money and the other that would not receive any money as it could settle it in 24 hours from your professional opinion of the diplomat, please tell how dangerous it is for us because we want to end as soon

as possible. ki she end i really want so and happens but before the election not so much anymore and trump has a real chance to become the next president of the united states of america and when this person becomes the president of such a great country that helps us so much in the war against the russian aggressor and when this person who says such things will engage in american foreign policy, how dangerous is it for us, well, of course it is dangerous, let's hope that the legal processes that are currently taking place there will have a certain result and we will see, well , other names in the race at least from the republicans. well, i want to pay tribute to other candidates. michaels spoke several times and said that he criticized biden for not helping ukraine enough. that ukraine is extremely important not only for europeans, but in principle for the world as such. well, the traditional republics say that china is looking at how the west helps

ukraine. if ukraine does not stand, if ukraine makes other territorial compromises, this will mean . liked that even mr. colby is so ideological, he is the grandson of the former director of the cia, he is one of the ideologues, including the trembians, he has changed his rhetoric a bit lately, if he used to say that ukraine should not be abandoned at all, so that the europeans should consult with russia there and russia does not pose such a direct threat to the united states, and we need to focus on china, now he has changed his position somewhat, he says yes, we really have our best efforts focus on supporting

the taiwanese, but do not throw in ukraine and give ukraine has all that it needs to fight, and he meant to us, for example, it is clear that the taiwanese do not need an island and a large number of tanks or artillery there, but they need the same air defense systems or to transfer tactical missiles there, that is, he divided what should be done for taiwan, and for ukraine - it is armored vehicles, small arms, some artillery, i understand, and the same f16, that is, he is already an ideologist who is listened to, including presidential candidates, and of course he has already changed his position i hope so a healthy system will win, and of course i hope for the so-called deep state, what does that mean for trump, even if he becomes president, there will be no opportunity to destroy the state-built machine, the government machine, although recently there was an article on your tampost about the fact that he has big plans to concentrate the power of the president, or rather the executive representative, by reducing the influence of the ministers and the bureaucracy as such , of course, in such a case, it will be

an extremely dangerous situation for us, that he will stop helping blackmail how was it from that session of a perfect conversation with the ukrainian president, as he called it, when we were blackmailed by not giving a demand and wanting us to dig up some dirt on a candidate from a rival party. that is, there is a danger, but in principle there are positive things, as i said again, the court battles and the second certain opinions among even those trembian intellectuals who believe that, after all, ukraine cannot be abandoned, but look at these courts i

talked to one person about all these things. she talked about that that these cases can drag on for a very, very, very long time, that is, he is, that is, donald trump can be elected as a hypothetical president of the united states of america in the 24th year, these cases may not be resolved yet, and then he, as the head of the united states, may pardon himself, this may be theoretical, since in fact there has never been such a case in history for a person to be so ideological and, from the point of view of his actions , contradict the spirit and letter of what is considered american democracy or american republics and of course there is also an element of rights, in principle, a political one, too . makes their

candidate, they will support him unfortunately, you are also quite active in the united states i'm sure you've seen how the tripyans gather to meet trump's motorcade and support it, and what they say doesn't make sense. i have a conspiracy theory that, for example, biden died a long time ago, and this actor is now playing his role, but in reality trump is the president. although, on the other hand, our trump is fighting to get into this election office again, but you know

. you are what you can do it for let's throw it behind bars, and on the other hand, there is a possibility that there will be, in fact, such a political and social fault in the united states, which will be, well, let's say turbulence. and it will simply intensify and it is not known which way it will go, that is, in principle, as they say, uncharted territory, that is, a territory that you do not yet have on the map, which is not yet known and how it will be resolved. it is difficult. it's good for the americans, it's good for europe and of course for ukraine. yes, that's right. thank you, mr. oleksandr, for participating in today's program . thank you for your professional answers and comments. viewers who watch their youtube