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not combispasm combispasm force that tames your pain congratulations for the espresso tv channel, the usual time for you, my name is yuriy fizer, which means that the world at war program is on the air every week. i and my guests discuss the most important things that happened in the world during it during the last week. well, we try to at least look ahead. in the next seven days, in order to prepare for what these seven days can bring us , this week will not be an exception. i will introduce the guests later. and now

i will do what i must do at the beginning of each program. thank you all who look us who looks where the espresso tv channel has not turned off from the air on because it means the center of odessa is not odessa namely the center of odesa. i am interested to hear your opinion and three options for the answers to intimidate ukrainians by accident. well, a rocket was flying. something happened to it. a more accurate weapon is russian and fell, unfortunately, in the center of odesa. well, your option will be possible. you can write in the comments. please answer this question, because it is extremely important for us. we

must know your opinion. it is also important for you to put your likes if you like the program i am sure that you will not like those who don't like it for us it is important though i am sure and that these will be very little well and please write in the comments write everything you think about the topics of the first time

. tsybulko mr. vladimir welcome glory to ukraine glory to the heroes. thank you for joining the program today. i always look forward to your professional answers to your professional comments. before i ask you the first question, let's listen to two quotes. two quotes are made by allies . i.e aggression against the russian federation, we will respond to it with all the means we have, putin said on friday, then lukashenko flew to him with a planned visit, met with him and even thanked him for the fact that for the first time , for the first time, the leader of russia says such words that an attack on belarus will be considered an attack on an allied state, and so

. exactly the declared president of belarus, well, we are going on a tour to warsaw and rzeszów, and rzeszów is an unpleasant issue for them, they fought under artemovsk, eh, they know where the military equipment came from, and they have this inside, rzeszów is a problem. of course, i keep them in the center. x two statements and in the end

a lot of what they said during their meetings please tell me what these statements about poland are all about, what is at stake these two criminals are now starting to play, well, first of all, putin needs to tie lukashenka deeper so that he will not be alone on the gas bench, secondly, it is true, so what is it for the purpose of creating an additional front , what is it to suffer a defeat from ukraine . of their population they

actually create a negotiating posture ie they are creating a scarecrow, hitting you in the center, this is also a scarecrow, that's all negotiating positions for er, the beginning of a dialogue of some kind of peace negotiations why because prigozhina's raid on moscow suddenly aroused the serious interest of world leaders, and er world leaders suddenly began to restore communication with putin, asking what happened. we were such a needle in the city of local

bottling that is eager to attack as if not freely what is she in her corridor ? mind , he congratulated him only so that such statements were actually made. well, who lukashenka asked. is it necessary or not? well, let's say they put prigozhina in lukashenko's pants so that he would be an additional controller for lukashenko, god forbid lukashenko, in the style of the bulgarian authorities in world war ii, when she quickly jumped out of the anti-hitler human union and jumped into the anti-hitler coalition , that's why lukashenko is not trusted in moscow and they want

an additional controller, that's why lukashenko can't get dressed anywhere, he's essentially the country, that's why not lukashenka, all these dvanerivites, this is a way once again frighten us by the invasion, because this is really the case. well, the wagnerites do not constitute any military power, the entire technological forces of nato are standing nearby, except for the polish and lithuanian troops, on the border of belarus there is also a division of the united states, somewhere in the area of ​​the corridor, located in the north of poland, in the baltic countries, there are also contingents of aviation and armored infantry to maintain security in these countries, so they do not make weather, but they can make a media

phantom and create a certain negotiating position while waiting for the light, especially when there is an agency influence in europe and she will suddenly take out this trump card and begin to intimidate the population of certain european countries in order to exist on the politicians in order to negotiate with russia, well, in fact, putin is screaming with all the numbers of his small soul that i should not negotiate anymore, don't beat me . come on. all

the same, these statements about beauty are about the wagnerites about the fact that they want to go to rzeszów to warsaw, they still scared the west, no matter what. don't screw it up, you say that 2,000 wagnerites will not do anything except for some kind of media publicity. the media publicity is because, for example, yesterday the minister of defense of poland said that they are bringing additional troops to their eastern border right up to this sovan corridor, so maybe they are still afraid of the west, they will react like the soviet regulations if i there is a threat of some unexpected

military candidate approaching the border, that is, of course a brigade will be sent abroad, at least where the opposition to this contingent or more depends on that. well, it must be said that the polish troops are extremely high-tech , very well trained, that's why putin and lukashenka don't have anything to say here, and what was shining, for example. do you have any information, maybe

more information about that? in past meetings, they also talked a lot about ukraine, but there were more economic issues and some intra-allied state issues, and here there is just a lot about ukraine, what can this indicate? well, first of all, putin has only had two big punctures of this kind. it is called fu fu and africa, where putin will be, so to speak

inflate that i am not only lukashenko, who made his last political visits to africa, probably needs his own interview to defend his interest on the african continent, if the leader, the map of the countries, will come to st. petersburg, then it is most likely that lukashenko is here to lobby for exports of some volume. moreover, russia cannot now produce . we are essentially a single production company a complex that was preserved in the post-soviet space, but within the framework of these heavy technologies, it is a belarusian machine-building complex. well, i think that the only thing that could be offered to africa, well, no, in principle, africa needs mini-fertilizers, too, well, no, nastyush, belarusian products instead of russian ones, here russia is an option, will uh-uh give in any market uh-uh, well , most likely, he will promote his uh-uh, mini-fertilizers and uh-uh machine-building products . there is no script lukashenko conqueror

of africa, of course it sounds so pathetic, sir vladimir and tell me, please. so he even gave the president a tractor. he brought a tractor with him at one time, i remember. yes, mr. volodymyr, let's close the topic of lukashenka. please tell me. last week, the members of the european parliament appealed to the leaders of the countries of the european union to appeal to the international court of asia with a request to issue a warrant for the arrest of lukashenka, the same as the court in gaza invented for the arrest of putin. do you think it's real? by the way , the belarusian opposition was the first to discover that

the belarusian red cross was on assignment lukashenka by kidnapping, that is, kidnapping children by the authorities, and on the territory of belarus they moved 3,000 ukrainian children, well, i wonder if lukashenka at all, i want, even though i tried, uh, well, somehow, to ferry those children to ukraine, but, well, the ukrainian authorities have a direct channel of communication with lukashenko . who is this, the vice-prime minister of the minister of internal affairs of belarus, kubrakova, who is one of those belarusians people, so why these family ties at least to save ukrainian

children she is surprised frankly understandable thank you, mr. volodymyr. thank you very much for participating in our program today. we talked about putin lukashenka. we heard expert answers. expert comments from volodymyr. onion, political scientist. well, we continue . the question we asked is why putin shelling the very center of odesa for intimidation by chance, your option is so for intimidation, 89% believe, er, by chance they don’t believe that the missile flew flew flew accurate russian weapons got tired and fell by accident only four er percent believe and seven have their own option i hope they wrote their own option in the comments right there in the comments we can read it well, i introduce my next guest with whom i continued today’s program, this is oleksandr

khara, an expert on foreign affairs and security who politicians of the center for defense strategies mr. oleksandr vitayu glory to ukraine to the heroes thank you for joining well, let's talk with mr. volodymyr tsibulko, uh, a lot about putin lukashenka, about their a-ah, now they are meeting. and a bromance, i don't know what to call it. a romance from a romance, but i didn't talk to him. what i want to talk about with you right now is the shelling not just of the center of uh, odessa, but the shelling as a result of which one of the rockets hit the holy transfiguration cathedral of odessa is this done on purpose or is it a malfunction

of high-precision weapons? well, i think so they went to a church that legally belongs to a branch in ukraine under the control of the russian orthodox church. it was intentional, but knowing the accuracy of their own rockets of analogavnetov e-e weapons, of course that e-e when they aimed at the center. well, i understand that e-e it is possible to invent some e-e related to the ukrainian government or military objects, but understanding such accuracy. objects, but

since this war has a genocidal character since no one is going to save the russian-speaking russians on the territory of ukraine , and ukraine must be destroyed, destroy its industrial potential, yes, in fact, it can be said that urbocide is already in full swing, and of course, volnovakha mariupol is the same, that is , in fact, in its own. i have the ability to support myself economic infrastructural capacity and in the sense of the future, since it is clear that the strikes on industrial facilities not related to the defense industry are primarily aimed at ensuring that we do not have the ability in the future to generate enough resources to support the armed forces. well, by and large, even return those e-refugees, more than 5 million who are now outside ukraine, and 6 million internally displaced persons for their native hometowns in order to raise the economy. in other words, this

is the destruction of the ukrainian nation and a side effect but a positive effect of the attack on odessa was also the reaction of half of the moscow patriarchate. well, in fact, the russian orthodox church, you know, was very pleased that they finally began to use the words aggression russia in the right context and not just abstractly that the lord let them go, and you probably heard how mertvokhanov reacted to it. it was quite emotional

. they sat too understood that katsap peace is russian peace is the destruction of everything else and there is no difference whether your native language is russian first there or whether you are proud of these roots there is a story that pushkin was walking there somewhere no you are just there for destruction look today i read in the morning that the representative of the ministry of foreign affairs of china mao ning officially condemned the use by the ukrainian armed forces of ukraine of cluster munitions that we received from the united states of america and so on way using these cassettes munitions will be shown by paupani maunin, and at least one russian soldier was killed. well, she said that this is exactly the negative consequence of the use of cluster munitions, that it is not a selective action . and we are monitoring this in their embassy and the victim - the embassy

- sorry, not the embassy, ​​but the consulate in odesa suffered from an explosive wave as a result of the rupture of one of the missiles and such a kind of passive reaction. please tell me what this can indicate. well, if you bring the words of one of the american presidents to the current situation, putin is the father of a son, but he is our son. and that is exactly why the chinese do not criticize the russian federation and they mostly send some cryptic messages to the kremlin

. generally in other matters they are absolutely just an english machine. well, of course there is no free media in china. well, of course, all these clerks repeat russian messages like parrots, because their interests in ukraine coincide, because they see this conflict as a conflict of the west against russia and against some legitimate security interests of russia in the region, and in particular with regard to ukraine, and that is why they say that the so-called xi jinping peace plan was about taking into account interests and not returning to blocking confrontation with the chinese, of course not i like nata in europe because the americans are actually creating similar networks and alliances as allies and partners in the idetech region in order to restrain china, that is, it is ideological from the point of view of the future confrontation between the united states and china, and the chinese have an opportunity to support the russian federation

. of course we don't that is, we want to. this is a simple far formula on which the foreign policy of china in relation to ukraine is based, including p. oleksandr, i also want to ask to close such a topic purely to russia. please tell me in general what kind of comedy, tragedy, tragicomedy with the detention and possible arrest of the so-called strilkov gorkin, i read a lot of information about this from various sources . with the fsb and it could be some kind there is a threat to putin, what is your vision of this situation, what is this happening there? well, i think it should be considered in the context of the insane attack that prigozhin made on moscow during this march for justice. that is, it is a blow to the autocracy, that is, that there is one person who controls everything and she does everything

right. of course, prigozhin criticized putin himself in quite such unpleasant ways , not only the military leadership, but everyone is a powerful figure because of course no. well, you see, there are some who support him. of course, it is. but the most important thing is that it cannot be destroyed just like that now. most likely, it will be removed a little later. that is, i have no doubt, because even since the 14th year, you have seen that all those ukrainian traitors or russian murderers who were in the donbas there or in the crimea are being quietly purged so that there would be no witnesses if they did not have some influence, but in the history of russia there from the 37th year and earlier , all these constant purges became simply a part of the political dna, and in contrast to the fact that

strilkov is a known terrorist, he does not have it he does not have such support at all, several thousand militants who can do something in russia or belarus or in african countries, and of course what he told and compared there, i think that here the issue of sexual orientation, gender, gender, er, affiliation is very sensitive for putin, and he compared him there to a woman and even worse. any woman, of course, putin cannot endure such an insult. well, the most important thing is that what girkin says, whoever he is terrorists so far how uh is it true that is

the fact that putin actually started this war and led it in this way until the end failed for the russian federation, he actually puts the russian federation into question of existence because in fact he destroys the scraps that were made and spent crazy resources, primarily human, russian and they were not capable of completing such a task to conquer a non-existent country as they consider it that's why, of course, it was necessary to remove such a person, i don't think that they will do 6 physical with him rather, no, but this was compensation for the inability to do something to make a more powerful player beautiful in beauty earlier and this i think while using it because even in the booter he has the opportunity to write something on twitter it is very strange, in fact very strange, that's why i thought that somehow it all seems to me everywhere, no matter where we get it now, it's somehow very strange and brings up a lot of questions that remained unanswered for me, yes, alexander i will now ask my charming lady editor if we need

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