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hunger or one of the russian weapons the federation against the world is all about this and not only. we will talk for the next hour. diplomat valery chaly and colonel guglin will be our guests. the grand survey we are conducting today on youtube. so it sounds like this. do officials and deputies have the right to vacation during the war? you and glad you to see on our air i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes let's start with the information about putin and lukashenka pumping up the information space about the possible joining of western ukraine to poland, of course this fake information that these two leaders have been pumping for a long time, well at least putin putin mentions that warsaw should thank stalin lukashenko says that the belarusians are ready to come to the aid of the ukrainians of western ukraine and

help defend the right to independence well , let's listen to what else lukashenko and putin said precisely thanks to the soviet union, thanks to stalin's position, poland received a significant amount of land in the west of germany, this is exactly how the western territories of present-day poland are stalin's gift to the poles, our friends, we forgot about it. let me remind you that they probably expect to form some kind of coalition under the nato umbrella and in the first place intervene in the conflict

in ukraine, tear off a piece of the marriage as for the policy of the ukrainian regime, this is his business. they want it. how is it introduced to the traitors? give something, sell something. they will unite with the owners. i repeat, in the end, it is their business. we will not interfere. as for belarus, in this part of the union state, unleashing aggression against belarus will mean aggression against the russian federation. we will respond to this with all the means we have.

we certainly will i ask you to support them, i ask that you discuss and think over this issue naturally. i would like you to support us in this regard, mr. valery, why did russia invent a fake about poland's intention to annex western ukraine, you know. it would be possible not to listen to these uh-uh well, it's not that they are pseudo-historical at all, some kind of rambling talk, but behind them, in principle , everything is clear . year and the orange revolution

that scared putin, after which actually everything and it started in russia there was one of the elements of russian, which was used during the campaign this section of ukraine for three parts well called three varieties of ukrainians one part - this is how russia from the south and east is trying to capture the territory of ukraine now or now they have said more than once i will remind it not for the first time, five regions of ukraine can take er poland there and other neighbors, although poland was first of all such a dream, even you know that polish officials said that the russians imagine they offered it to them at official meetings, well, of course, the poles twisted the temples of the russians and said listen we somehow live in a different way in this world, but this desire is huge

in them, that is, to destroy ukraine so that ukraine does not exist at all, this is the first the second is to try now in conditions when the situation is difficult for of course, he is trying to use lukashenka, and by trying to disperse efforts, he is creating imaginary pressure and increasing tension on the part of belarus, that is, this information is being spun, these threats with the transfer of tactical nuclear weapons with the transfer of wagnerites, the swalt corridor between poland, lithuania, and onward to kaliningrad. in other words, this is the goal , in principle, to shift more of the focus of weight there in order to disperse efforts . there is also a historical element

for putin, and these are all some parallels for he was very important to continue this row of alexander ii ii ii gave alaska america why you are such a version that you didn't completely pay that there would be putin not to say that alaska should be returned he will say that he will not say it he will not be afraid of what can be inhabited in the public. europe in the central

eastern is less affected and in particular on of poles. obviously, although this morning the spokesman of the state department of the united states of america, matthew miller, commented on lukashenka's statement regarding poland. this is another one of lukashenka's irresponsible comments. i don't know if such statements should be taken seriously. i would say that there is only one country in the region that has demonstrated not only the intention but also the readiness to invade its neighbors, and this is russia, not poland, not any other country in the region, and therefore i would like to emphasize once again that our union with poland is strong, of course

poland is a member nato and we will defend if every inch of nato territory is needed, then the fact that the russians will not be able or will not want to fight with poland is explained by the americans, including the fact that poland is a member of the north atlantic alliance. but putin is such an unpredictable person and he can get into some kind of short conflict there, i would say with lithuania or with poland, and then sit down at the negotiating table, showing and showing our society what you see. we have already started fighting there, but we are moving to some kind of peaceful ones there victory or is it possible considering the fact that well putin's actions are sometimes difficult to predict. i just remember these historical hoaxes that he spoke about lenin who invented ukraine and about pototsky count pototsky who invented ukrainians and then it seemed that what putin says does not fit into anyone's head at all and now here is stalin, the western lands of poland, the eastern lands of germany, it also looks like pseudo-historical excursions, but hmm, is it even possible that putin is going beyond the border in his thoughts

? ukraine's idea was to seize ukraine and move on, i'll tell you even more russians were completely serious, they thought that they would be able to use the mobilization resources of the maximum ukrainians in order to further attack europe. that is, these are not real thoughts and plans of action, and really now just reasons, the weakness of the regime is obvious after the mutiny, did he try to stab prigozhin, everyone saw that such a dictatorship is an authoritarian country, it crumbles if there is no top directive, and putin seriously everything fell down there and did not know what to do and now

they fought a little and are trying to move forward go some what do you mean by further steps, they are really afraid, they are very afraid that our partners on our side may join the war, that is, there is no such policy, but we have the ukrainian ukrainian polish lithuanian brigade, we created it for some security purposes, that is, there are some desires of our neighbors , the poles, the lithuanians, to somehow help more, that is, they are thus trying to close the world of any possible involvement of more than just the supply

of weapons with the brocade of our partners and it's me i think that it is such a fear that borders on a desire in them. as you said there, a short clash of some kind after which nato will understand that it is necessary to stop the entire war, there is also such an opinion, and i will say that it really should not be ignored that they can make such a provocation in the winter. i would see different comments there. such a direct clash with nato immediately raises the stakes and all sides, as they say . in that anecdote one of the front published i read that they ask him there, they say, well, we are at war, and nato hasn’t come yet, and in the end, nato doesn’t know, so you know. i think that, if they are going to provoke such a development, they will try to confront nato. that’s really me. i think that this war will end much faster. well, i will explain to you more quickly. now , maybe i’m warning your question there. the black sea

. does the ford aircraft carrier flagman come in uh, now the most modern aircraft carrier in the world has entered the mediterranean sea. well, according to my data, on july 14, he was definitely still in the adriatic. 90 planes, one salvo, and not only chornomorsk will be covered with a copper basin there, there are the remains of this black sea fleet, but he will cover a lot of what he can do with one salvo, and he is standing there somewhere hinting at something , but tell me why you can’t just say nothing without hinting, but just publicly freedom of navigation is absolutely protected by international

law, this is not a question of the territory of ukraine a threat to the whole world if the americans give slack in this situation as well. i think that well. i hope that at the meeting of the ukraine nato council, nato will not make a decision to provide a clear decision by force as an option about the freedom of navigation in the black sea, then i do not understand why these conversations about the danger of passing through the straits there in the south china sea, i will tell you , the united states has always said that you must hold on to show that the freedom of navigation remembers passed the destroyer appears to be british near the crimean peninsula, nothing

it didn't happen, showing that this is an important international element, that is, they don't threaten us, he threatens them, and it's not our question, sorry, it's their question, we don't need to be taught how to advance counterattacks, fast or slow, all such statements have already been made. and you can show at least once what you have written to ensure the freedom of navigation of the black sea. you have no ships. you have minesweepers, turkish, romanian . czech nato countries ships, at least while you have an aircraft carrier stationed in the reach of the flight and the volley, that is, what is preventing you from saying anything about it publicly now, why do you allow only this to be posted in the information space, and you talk to them on closed lines, not publicly, this is wrong policy. i don’t like this approach when our partners talk on closed lines, or meet there, or how now patrushev met, er, there in johannesburg or before. they met from turkey behind their backs

. but it is clear that this is not your war to show the freedom of navigation in the black sea, the time has come, i really expect that this meeting will give us, mr. valery, we have been observing during the last special week after russia withdrew from the grain agreement that putin is behaving like an international pirate in the black sea and is trying to turn the black sea itself into a place where he will be a part of the sea so precisely control especially the coast of the ukrainian state because the ministry of attack of the russian federation has already said that we will shoot all the vessels that will

leaving ukrainian ports, we will perceive them as military. the ministry of defense of ukraine reacted and said, well then, we will also consider and consider as military targets all vessels that will go to russian ports through the kerch strait. what do you think, taking into account the massive missile strikes that russia is inflicting on ukrainian ports and the behavior that the russians are currently showing, what is putin trying to do in order to completely destroy ukraine's opportunities for grain export and to mark its grain nom on the international markets is it because of the destruction of the partial destruction, partial destruction of the port infrastructure, the civil structure in odesa, in mykolaiv oblast, to force the world community to sit down at the negotiating table once again, sign two more agreements that will make up this grain agreement, and why is the world again sitting down at the negotiating table with putin when it is absolutely obvious that he is an international terrorist, he is terrorizing the whole world

, not only ukraine and the world in this way. it is strange, but the world does not have a complete understanding of what we understand that putin is racism, analogous to hitler's fascism, there is no such understanding, not that there is no such understanding in countries like china or india or brazil, not even in the countries of our partners, not even in the population, not in the population, namely, in the political establishment, they do not want to preserve the opportunity to, well, they explain by this that they do not know what to do with russia like this and they want the war not to go beyond the borders of ukraine , well, of course, it cannot please us ukrainians at all, and it sounds beautiful, but we are on our

territory, all this is happening for that reason many different reasons can be named before, some other reasons were named, but the fact remains that putin is gradually falling into isolation, the most striking one is the arrest warrants even in south africa and the republic, that is, but this is not enough, and that is why he is so important there on camera, i want to show that he is a player and with these behind-the -scenes consultations, they are helping him. even when they inform ukraine, we see that this information comes out after 3-4 months, and of course this encourages putin lavrov, that is, they see that they can continue their criminal actions within certain limits, that is why if we talk about all these agreements, what kind of agreement is there, it is no deal, that is, one package is there, the other package, that is, it is necessary to help the leader to solve it in the conditions of war, the economic issue does not affect many people not only in ukraine, but also

abroad, and russia wants to remove it under this brand you are absolutely right. well, my forecast in the first part is exactly the same. right away, russia will try to block our opportunities to export, export from running at the first stage. then, i think that sooner or later they will return to these agreements, and at this moment they will reorient these flows to themselves and then with such agreements they will consolidate their sole, essentially right, our infrastructure is really collapsing. we have them sleeping in our transports and they continue

to do it all over the country that is, i really don't i like that the world is starting to see everything as the norm. that is, it must be transferred to the regime. i will tell you honestly that there was criticism of our officials that they even well, they may be wrong somewhere they want to cross red lines, that is in the traditions of diplomacy. to be honest, i myself am ready to shout at the whole world because i see what is happening. with putin negotiations, forget everything, all his haags will be crossed out, everything will be crossed out, he understands it perfectly. he will raise the stakes, blackmail, tell that now they will go not only to western poland, but where is western poland, then you are already the second to bomb london, that is, putin is a weakling, he has medvedev, he has already entered paris

, london . they believe a lie they believed that kyiv in three days, they believed, that means they went, that is, they failed, they failed. why can’t they really go to some kind of confrontation with a nato country, it will fail, but let’s say that they will achieve their goals of sitting down at the negotiating table. everything could be because of that. i think that the question of the pressure of the military force comes up again, and in addition, i want to hear where the sanctions packages were distributed, where did rosatom go when they put a stop to the fourth block

? they will pump, they will pave line. on the other side, they will use it. the americans think that they have agreed and i am very grateful to them for that, but they left the technical capabilities for putin as he had. again, the new stage requires more decisive actions by the forces, and not only the supply of weapons, but i say that it is necessary, it is not necessary for nato to act now . - it will hit them in the usa and not in nato therefore, i think that ukraine is seriously thinking about this issue and will find means not behind the scenes, but such clear public ones, to put them in the place of these war criminals who have failed

. wow economy of lithuania and volodymyr zelenskyi talks about agreements with the european union, let's hear what the president of ukraine said, there is a very important agreement with the european commission regarding september 15, this is the last date of restrictions on our grain exports, and we believe that the european side will fulfill its obligations regarding this date when temporary restrictions will cease to operate. any extension of restrictions is absolutely unacceptable and frankly un-european . europe has the institutional capacity to act more rationally than to close one or another

border for one or another product of course mr. valery, every country cares first about its agricultural producers and not about ukrainians, but still, bulgaria, hungary, poland, romania and slovakia are doing their best for each other, and they are insisting that the export of grain and the import of grain, rather, it was closed after september 15. i will not give details of how this situation developed

. therefore, even such complex ones are needed situations, i think not to rush there with unfriendly words. but why this happened should be looked at carefully. well, secondly, understand that in these countries and elections and politicians look at the internal situation. yes, we would like them to have our full support here at the expense of our internal interests somewhere, but i think that we should first find temporary effects of this ban, and secondly, some kind of compensators from brussels from the european union can be solved. well, and thirdly, look for opportunities for ukrainian producers of goods in these conditions. lose also seriously in

money well, this is purely our internal interest, a difficult question, a difficult question, i don't have all the answers, i emphasize once again that on the one hand, even in war conditions, we understand that we cover these countries, they understand, on the other hand, we need to find a solution with such friends, in a really calm mode in the dialogue against this background, on july 27 and 28, oleksandr st. petersburg should be held by russia, africa, and already , as the russian side says, participation in this summit has been confirmed by 49 out of 54 african countries, that is, i i understand that they are african countries that are one of the consumers of ukrainian grain, they do not perceive putin as a person who simply deprives them of food and uses food as one of the elements of weapons or as weapons against the world and we said with you that

unfortunately perception is different and can be called pragmatism, but i really know what i know . does putin what russia does that is they understand it ehh well such countries it can be called but really the majority will just go er and will create the illusion that putin is not in isolation so this is an active work must be recognized er they work actively with africa and we must continue to look for opportunities to prove exactly our true position to our partners african countries which countries the soviet union at one time placed on african countries and this was basically the policy of the soviet union well if you can say so colonial, that is, the soviet

union always considered african countries which countries on which they have influence, the leadership of the soviet union, a lot of students studied from africa. then they became ministers, some became presidents, and in this way the connection between the soviet union and african countries was preserved

. these are diamonds - these are specific agreements with the top and they continue to use this tool. thank you mr. valery. it was valery chaly diplomat, former extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america, friends , we work live on the espresso tv channel. facebook of course you can become a sponsor of the espresso youtube channel. now you will see a qr-code by clicking on which you can become one of the sponsors of our youtube channel. any help is helpful for our youtube channel for our team. we are developing our youtube channel in order to inform you about news as quickly as possible and of course to make programs that you