[000:00:00;00] weapons are provided from us stocks, and from stockpiles of capabilities should be delivered to ukraine in the coming days. a few days ago, the united states introduced sanctions against additional russian defense and procurement companies that help moscow continue the war. this , as stated in the state department, is part of the relentless struggle of the us and evasion of sanctions, however, the loopholes through which russia continues to receive western components for the manufacture of weapons still remain enough in russian weapons and equipment in ukraine continue to find foreign parts, according to the recent report of the international expert group mcfall yarmak, these components come from 19 countries of the world, including from the usa, but the first place in europe for the production of components that were found in russian weapons is held by switzerland, and the banks of this country that did not join the sanctions keep russian cash in the amount of at least 200 billion dollars as closed by the stars to fuel the russian war machine

. participation in them olena tregupa is the executive director of the independent anti-corruption commission of nato. today she is in our studio. olena. thank you for coming to our broadcast. if we talk about these western components in russian weapons , how large-scale is this problem? and how significantly does it affect russia's ability to continue waging war? it is a big problem, because in fact most

of the components come from western countries. very serious weapons and helicopters and missiles and drones, and it turned out that almost everything is from western countries in china, there is a small fraction of only 3% of their components, and the majority of them are 80-70 . it is from america that these components get to these weapons . you can close these threads what options do you offer here in washington, for example, and do they hear you in washington when you talk about these concerns? it was actually very useful to raise this topic in the helsinki commission because it seemed that some of the politicians there were hearing this topic for the first time .

was created from expert control but, unfortunately, it has not yet proved to be effective, so we propose that it is necessary to implement more, such extended lists of dual-purpose products, that is , to control these goods that were found in these weapons, they are microprocessors, even valuable modules, that is, they are not necessarily military yes, but since we already know and we have proven it researchers that they are used in russian weapons, we must pay closer attention to them, pay closer attention and control their export, and the state should give this instruction to its american companies although they are and private and oblige them to also investigate these cases more deeply and also implement more serious due diligence and know-your-customer policies when they understand that there is a red flag that we

are talking about, for example, a chinese company created after 2014 whose head is a russian community no well, it is obviously correct that this may be used for russian weapons . unfortunately, we see many companies, not only swiss, but also american, turning a blind eye to this. unfortunately, what about switzerland or there are some positive cases when in fact the swiss government or swiss companies actually go arbitrarily to close down entire stars well, in fact, they are very sensitive to this communication advocacy activity that we are currently carrying out as a ukrainian civil society, in particular, the swiss have already contacted me the companies that i mentioned in my speech are in the senate and they are saying that you mentioned such and such cases, please give us more information, we want to investigate

, well, this is actually a very positive reaction, we i hope that this will have at least a partially positive effect on this situation in the evening and the independent anti-corruption commission, and despite the fact that you have taken on new obligations , of course the main issue for you is the reduction of the level of corruption in ukraine

, and now it is also a very important issue when it comes to these massive amounts of western aid that comes to ukraine. the opinion is that there is enough accountability now regarding the aid that comes to ukraine. well, in fact, ukraine has implemented a weapons tracking system that was demanded from us by nato partners, the united states in particular, and we can now, well, partners in particular, the united states. in any in any in situations of war and conflict, it is always vulnerable to corruption and there are always some low-level cases like this. you know a commander there who decided to sell some of his personal weapons in order to earn money. this happens all the time in war, but please note that at a high level there are no comments from our partners to us before well, of course we also follow this, but more we as a civil society are now following how ukraine spends its own budget funds on the purchase of rear support, we literally have one and a half minutes left for ourselves these nato in vilnius voiced such opinions that ukrainians in ukraine still have room to grow, there are still

things to reform in order for ukraine to potentially become a member of nato. in your opinion, in the time of an active hot war, are they possible and are they necessary? yes, very complex reforms are of course more difficult to do but i can say that ukraine is working on it, now ukraine is rewriting the law on state secrets, uh, now ukraine still hasn't finished, but it is working on the law on the reform of the security service of ukraine, these laws are exactly what nato expects from us, well, it's difficult. yes, but uh our state is functioning and working in general. i think that these requirements should be very specific for ukraine, because nato said that they will monitor ukraine's current program. yes, the program has 150 pages, and there are a lot of these reforms . it was impossible to implement them even under war time, so i think that now we should seek to specify these steps in nato, and

ukraine has full political will, i see it from the inside, we see that politicians are trying very hard to get closer to nato, thank you very much for this conversation, thank you for visiting olena treguba was a guest of our broadcast. thank you for the invitation. our studio guest was olena treguba. we continue our broadcast. first, in the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine, 2,526 ukrainians were freed from russian captivity. this is what president zelensky announced. in mid-june of this year, the ukrainian military intelligence is keeping secret the exact number of captured ukrainians and how many russian soldiers are in captivity on the territory of ukraine

. succeeded to conduct hundreds of hours of personal interviews with them and his impressions of communicating with captured russians. lyubomyr shared with the people of omel what for whom and yury dankevych. curfew is now 10 minutes past four in ukraine. lyubomyr ferenc leaves home at dawn to make it to six when in the long rooms of the labor colony building with two rows of 10 beds each and one on two bedside tables, the day usually begins with the national anthem of ukraine anthem for russians and those mobilized from the dpr and lpr, it means that another day has begun in the ukrainian deck. glory to the heroes of ukraine. as we can see, the morning reconciliation of prisoners of war is now taking place, that is, the name is called. and they are the people who are important. because they can replace our fighters, they can all be divided into certain groups, so mobilized contract workers e- well, mercenaries, yes. well, when we talk about company leaders, that is, those who signed it for money because of ideological motives, yes

, prisoners, yes, they have completely different motives, for example , i can single out a few people with whom i spoke, they remembered me. that's why i remember them i will remember it all my life. you can tell me why you are from russia here if you are from the side of the judges, who are fighting donkeys, ministers , so that they are not imprisoned, if you are like me, why should they be released, how to publish everything. yes, russia is one big prison where there is a separate group of people who signed contracts simply for money for the purpose of life, yes, for many special military personnel, it was necessary to get a loan for an apartment, which is lower because he is a military person, it is more or less normal to have financial security, and the rest is all the world is not will wait ferenc is a professional journalist who at the beginning of the war became one of the few in ukraine who received permanent access from the ukrainian ministry of justice and became

the author of special content in one of the videos. he talks about life in the camp, event 1 , classified locations, a few hours' drive from lviv, the camp is like an ordinary one the ukrainian colony is on the menu, meat, fish and pearl barley in the workshops of welding and weaving furniture, everyone is involved in the work except for the officers, the officers are involved in the work at will, and every night

before going to bed, an hour of ukrainian tv channels and so on, but the most interesting thing is an ordinary conversation with the consent of the prisoner himself, one on one. nato this is like the european union army, the european union, yes, nato is translated, nato is analytical, where did such information come from? that here, nato troops, you know that i was there again only for work. there in the moscow metro

once seen, i want to appeal to the handsome men who watch the interviews of your soldiers, they will not show them on federal channels. there were cases when they did not want to recognize them. what about those who fought against ukraine on the part of the russian federation and these people, if they were to testify and the russians also understood. well, not everything is like that, i would most likely say that if conditionally he is listed there , who died or went missing, here he is, he appears somewhere. if these interviews will help to return one way or another of our fighters, this is the number one and second task if something happens there russia's pressure through a certain person there on their leadership and so on helped over the last year. lyubomyr communicated with very different russian military recidivists , the wagnerites. and you can show the tattoos and take off. and that's what this means. well, it sat once and was silent . что здесь это владен свой yes it is written and there is a swastika symbol of unity and istanbul we went to the village yes i went once in the room yes there is a toilet shower at home yes i don't have such a thing so you have a toilet shower at home

no yes, i don't need it yes, for them to clean the toilet in the house today , the toilet is on the street in the village, even you don't think it's normal tolyk i don't need it, it seems to me and i won't feel much because i forgot to wash it , a former student of the theological seminary, let's sign to certify the contract, i was convinced that in general all the power is owned by the americans , that is, they simply bought all the government, the mass of information, the armed forces, everything they wanted , completely above us, shows the american flag hanging over the sbu, the building of the ministry of defense in kyiv, that's all to see a welder from magnitogorsk now i won't say it anymore well, this is a shalom for disabled people yes, and that it was fast in russia, our gas was carried out and an apartment was allocated i two sports have already passed 20 years i was a welder, i wanted an apartment and here i thought well,

let's look at you too how can 60,000 buy a room? we discuss some things there, i will honestly say that i never know where i am talking. for example, about the war in yugoslavia or, for example, the war in syria or the war in iraq, they can i control her. i never avoid these things. why is it possible for america and not for russia? well, we are starting to analyze that moment. we did about 140 interviews before the 50th. i expected something there. yes, if you take it after the 50th, i did not expect anything. this arsenal of weapons was seized by the soldiers of the main directorate of intelligence from lieutenant stas trutniv from murmansk during a special operation last summer . in that direction

for eight days. yes, but at the same time he was er the commander of a platoon or a company. i don’t remember it in russian. yes, he was a diver in the army, so he will read it on google from the time of the ussr. it was a special unit. yes, he had the task of taking the height. he took it. the task was bad. yes, i took the height. i took the people and yours from the people into captivity. well, i could not keep it high. our hurivians knocked him out with the people. they were all put in him. four bullets were put in him, and ours saved him, and so on. but it shows that he is, well , a military man. i was interested in talking to him and somewhere in the third place, he agreed to a powerful officer who used to serve as a participant in the syrian operation, i have a combat experience, and i’m not better at work, but i’m the moscow infantry marine , yes. if i was able to sow at least a grain of doubt in them to the people who watch it, i believe that my work was not in vain . the ukrainian audience perceives lubomir ferenc's project in different ways

. military prisoners are subject to exchange at the state level with civilians, this is much more difficult to do, the ukrainian authorities emphasize that russia does not admit that it is holding civilians captive, this is prohibited by the geneva conventions, so there is no mechanism for both influencing moscow and the mechanism for exchange already on wednesday the us helsinki commission will hold hearings devoted to the search for ukrainian women and children kidnapped by the russians, as recently reported by the asushi agency, and here the kremlin press purposefully captures ukrainian civilians and even creates prisons for them the other day at the un, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, called on the world to intervene and find a way to return ukrainian civilians from captivity. many of them have been in russian captivity for more than a year, about 50 of them from dymer

in the kyiv region, andriy hetman says. at the end of february and until the end of march, but still more than 50 civilians are in russian captivity. above is a photo of my son. this is a man and this is a son. the federations ran over the fence, jumped over it and without any explanation said that they were taking away for questioning what they didn't like about what they were taking away. i asked very hard not to take away, i asked around the corner, i shouted at everything in the whole street, there were a lot of them, we are all married, of course. well, such cases are not isolated. they stopped passers -by . gavrylovka was moving with his wife

and son and something was found in his phone and taken away his wife and son were released, they came at night during the frost, the russians were especially actively looking for volunteers yulia katsimon from the ukrainian red cross delivered medicine to the occupied dymer and the surrounding villages, then helped peaceful people to get to the territory controlled by ukraine and were arrested at the checkpoint in demydov . where were all the prisoners, they said that you are not correct yourself lead with you

, the elder will come and talk . well, inflict heavy damage on the bodies. this is where the russian military held most of the civilians. yuliya, who was later released, shows the premises of the reiters agency. all three days, a black barrel stood there. we didn’t have any extras there, there was nothing, they were just cardboard made of paper and two mattresses, er, in the same room, we had barrels that served us from behind the toilet, and one barrel was from with water, where everyone drank water at that time, the russian military lied to relatives about the whereabouts of the prisoners , they said that he was in kozarovychy, in fact, it was not so. he was in dymer, on the window- land , i say. blindfolded in the dark, prevented from talking in order to hide who else was in captivity with them, but people asked the names and thanks to which the relatives later learned about the fate of their relatives, there was no light, all our hands were tied with ropes, but it was in

who were covered with their hoods , who were covered with tape , we were simply not allowed to look there at all. but when they went in at night, we would tear ourselves apart with the help of stretching and puffs and taking them off. so that in the future you will remember so we knew who we were there with and that we were there and the neighbor said that on the 9th he was with his son and on the 10th he was taken for questioning in the evening and he did not return here even during the occupation the russians began to export of ukrainians to belarus and then to russia, who was changed to iran. in that year, they said that he was in russia, they sent yulia on this route. on the fifth day, we were all

transported to the gostomel airport. one day we stayed at the gostomel airport or a warehouse, and on the second day we were taken to belarus . two yuliya says that the russians deliberately took out ukrainian civilians, her status changed when it was found out that she previously worked in the state emergency service, that is, according to the russians in the security forces, she was released as part of the exchange of prisoners last year on april 8, when they found out that i was an employee of the state emergency service, then i had already become a prisoner of war and was released as a prisoner of war at the same time, and the rest of the civilians ended up in the stupid holes of the russian prison system . all this time still has to in the middle of april, i.e., for more than a year, they were held in novozyvki. there were only a few cases when

citizens who lived in these settlements of the kyiv region, not only in dimarya and kochi and in irpin, but they also had registration or registration in the donetsk or luhansk regions of these citizens again zymkov was transferred to other places of detention, all the others who were registered in the kyiv region. they remained in novozitkov for a long time, while in vasylkov they also received ukrainian military personnel and representatives of the national guard of ukraine who were captured at the chornobyl nuclear power plant, this is a total of approximately 600 people. that is, the vast majority were citizens from the kyiv region, then they added representatives of the 36th marine

brigade from mariupol. but the russian authorities are hiding it. we are cooperating with a russian lawyer who tried to get into the pre-trial detention center. they let them in, they said that there were no ukrainian citizens there at all, sometimes the red cross was allowed to the prisoners, or through other prisoners, people handed over notes. it came around august 9. such a note came almost a year ago, which was written in april. he was alive. everything is fine. good afternoon. the red cross would call the red cross and ask geneva. they say we are in russian, he began to speak in a broken way and said that you are us . understand that we are also afraid of being killed

. they do not allow us. the red cross said that it was confirmed by the russian federation about the capture. verkhovna rada commissioner for human rights dmytro libinets says that russia deliberately does not allow international organizations to access the prisoners and there are no means of influencing moscow yet. this is a new challenge of the modern world when no one knows how to influence the aggressor country on the russian federation , international institutions do not work, the international committee of the red cross continues to cooperate with the russian federation in different ways, even this publicly

show but when it comes to receiving information about ukrainian citizens, the only answer i hear is that the russian federation does not provide us with anything. the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, at the un called on the world to intervene and start acting , because according to the geneva conventions, russia does not have the right to detain civilians indefinitely, and the mechanism for exchanging civilians , the international community lacks tools to solve this problem, for example , unlike prisoners of war, civilian hostages cannot be returned during the exchange, because this will only encourage russia to abduct even more people, we urgently need new international tools to punish the kidnapping of civilians and organize the safe return of civilian hostages from captivity to their homes, i propose that work be done on the development of such tools, the ombudsman has the following explanations for russia's targeted abduction of ukrainians, this is systemic pressure on the civilian population which is or was under the occupation of the russian federation, this is the first, the second is the replenishment of the so-called exchange fund

, the russian federation is trying to show that we have a large number of citizens of ukraine . if you are interested, then let's proceed to the exchange procedure for the return of some. until such time, there were no such official proposals from russia , but human rights activists assume that russia wants to receive collaborators of convicts in ukraine . they also have optina passports. that is why they were conditionally detained there for collaborative activity e-e convicted for collaborative activity and in the end are in prison while the un mission records the crimes of russia there is no bikini check from the beginning armed attack russia began detaining civilians in its occupied territories many civilian detainees were held incommunicado in unofficial

detention facilities often in appalling conditions in about a quarter of documented cases of detained civilians were transferred to other locations in the occupied territory or deported to of the russian federation. the russian federation did not grant us access despite our requests, and the residents of the dimer daily wait for

news about their relatives and hope for a miracle andriy hetman dmytro savchuk voice of america and that's the end of it thank you for watching voice of america in ukrainian see you tomorrow good luck dad we continue the search for 4 children from a large family of dmitrenkas from mariupol 14-year-old diana 12-year-old timofey eight-year-old etori and five-year-old demir all of them disappeared together with their father and for more than a year nothing is known about their fate in the dmitrenka family at seven children, and they all lived in a high-rise building on troitska street on the night of march 12 last year. the projectile is just a stunning story of dmitrenko's family, the mother of the missing children, who experienced real hell, told me on march 15, the projectile is burning on the internet. i don't know what kind of aircraft or what kind of projectile it is, i can't even explain what kind of projectile it was because it had a very , well, smell . and let them go home when there were shellings, the family hid in the basement and at night

on march 12, it was more or less calm, so everyone stayed in their own apartment on the ninth floor, and in the morning the house of the dmitrenks looked like this. on march 11 , 2022, my train is on fire. the 9th floor has flown. they took away a neighbor of dmytrenko's family, people say that the injured children were taken to the hospital, their condition is not known for sure , mrs. tatyana also ended up in the hospital, although the woman does not remember all the details, she fainted several times, she says that she and her three children went to sleep in the storeroom and her husband made his bed in the corridor and there were four more children with him, they all woke up in the middle of the night from the explosion, and as a result of the sudden fire, they were all in the corridor, there was one child , a daughter still in middle school, was there with them. well, she is