[000:00:00;00] now journalist dmytro anopchenko is in touch with washington and has been studying this issue all day. so what additional evidence does the united states have? look, i was also interested in this . i spent the whole day trying to figure it out. what is the test now that president biden has removed hryvnias? the second story is also extremely interesting that for the money allocated by the state department , scientists, in particular scientists from yale university, use artificial intelligence and this artificial intelligence analyzes a huge an array of open information, all that you and i could not analyze is satellite data, data on damage to more than 200 objects in ukraine, in particular, objects of cultural heritage, this is data from social networks posted by the russian military, someone

is posting something there, maybe not even their leadership they see, but they see artificial intelligence because it passes through itself all those messages in social networks and thus accumulated a huge array of information about some units, even there the surnames were known. all this was decided to hand over everything that the united states had accumulated to the international criminal court, and why then the decision to hand over such data became so loud. see well, in fact , we heard very often, i heard personally from american officials from the same brandshaft , which is now representatives of the state department of war crimes investigation that the united states would not like to have direct contact with the court. and everyone knows this long history of trying to prosecute the american military

even a law that prohibits direct interaction. well, you see, the american administration, the white house, for the sake of ukraine , for the sake of this evidence, which did not cause any doubts, went to directly contact the court, this is a serious change in policy, this is a serious step, and another topic the white house announced the quick start of the training of the ukrainian military on the f-16, and the exact dates are already known . are you now saying that they will not be notified to us for sure? and you know, i am also trying to find out what john kirby said today. he is the main speaker and we talk to someone both on camera and off camera on issues related to aid to ukraine on issues of military aid on issues in particular and the training of ukrainians even 16 and john heard today that in the near future these terms are being prepared in particular in romania and in denmark the british began to prepare ukrainians to conduct day language courses so that the instructors and pilots who will be guided in 16 speak the same language

, that is, what we hear both officially and unofficially in the american administration so that everything is on the final straight, how long will it last? it's also a good question. i talked informally with the american military , they tell me if we accelerate as much as possible to reject the water course that our air masses don't need, then somewhere we can fit in four months. that is, well, let's say this is my forecast and what we heard unofficially from the americans that somewhere inside, at the end of next month, it can already start. well, it will last somewhere up to four months, after that the issue of deliveries will be open if the status of ukraine is okay, and one more aspect we want to talk, the intelligence agency brought a statement from the white house about the joint work of the united states with the europeans regarding the search for alternative ways of exporting ukrainian grain

. what did we find here? well, i really like to share information because what they write to the intelligence agency of the company is to talk with officials should not speak on camera and find out the details of what john kirda said today on camera, this is the first part . and to find alternative ways of supplying ukrainian grain exports john says about the railway john says about the use of trucks but you know a very interesting moment back in the spring i spoke with two people in the american administration who are basically responsible for this issue the deputy head of the usa agent for international development and with 1 that is, a person who is a special representative of the state department for food affairs. i asked them a very direct question. i said, look, you also feel that russia will one day be able to disrupt this the agreement if they are pills in the spring, if not in the summer, that is, guys, are you working

on plan b ? i heard the answer that i want to share with you . but nevertheless, this is from the spring and this is open information, i can confirm this, plan b was being worked on, deliveries were being made to the railway, deliveries were being made very seriously , deliveries were being made by e-e trucks, that is, in the grand scheme of things, if what happened, what happened if sea transit stopped - this is absolutely not there is some kind of unexpected situation there, neither for ukraine nor for the american administration, which is helping to fix it. and i am absolutely sure, because i heard it personally from american officials, that plan b began to be calculated and even partially implemented in the spring , dmytro. thank you , we heard a lot of interesting things. according to him, when, according to his information, the training

of ukrainian pilots can begin even in 16, and how the export of ukrainian agricultural products abroad will continue with the support, including washington and our european partners, if a day ends, we only begin, we continue to work for a year of work of the army of drones, ukrainian companies scaled production tenfold, and some even by 100, the minister of digital transformation of ukraine, mykhailo fedorov, said that with the support of united 24, 40 ukrainian drones productions already have permission to operate and receive state contracts , they have become the eyes of our military and successfully destroy enemy equipment, so another 1,700 shock and reconnaissance birds with artificial intelligence are now being sent to the front to speed up the counteroffensive of our military . 1,700 strike reconnaissance copters are all being sent to the background to protect the lives of our soldiers so that our artillery can be

even more accurate in order to displace the enemy. and victory for leadership and technologies, that is why we are moving forward. kudos to ukraine about drones and the situation at the front, our colleagues kateryna fedotenko and nazar dolong i spoke with the commander of the terra unit, mykola volokh, let’s see what’s up. we’re continuing our broadcasts. our next guest , mykola volokhov, call sign abdula, is the commander of the terra unit in the third separate assault brigade, and i’ll immediately ask a question, because we know that our guest is in the direction of bakhmut and p mykola, i have a question for you today . mrs. malyar already commented on the situation in

the direction of bakhmut to the ministry of defense. they say that fierce fighting is going on there in in the area of ​​klichivka, kurdyumivka and andriyivka, i would like to hear from you first-hand information about what you see directly in the bakhmut direction, that we see the armed forces of ukraine on the offensive for probably more than a month, the positive dynamics have been maintained , we have been moving forward for a few days, this is significant progress for kilometers, on some days it is hundreds, sometimes tens of meters, but the dynamics itself remains positive uh, the enemy is also actively moving uh, some of them are actively moving in the direction of escape, some of them is actively moving, surrendering to polony, some part is actively moving, moving to the concert, decabzones, black packages , ah, again, what do i think, if this dynamic will be maintained in the future, then this is the plan that the russians were preparing, remember this is their announcement with

what they will take bakhmut in the ring, yes, and now the situation will be reversed, they baknuv took the ring, it was not possible to destroy it, i think that it is quite likely that everything will be so good, then we will be able to take it and about the pvk wagner, tell us we remember that at first they launched their combat units near bakhmut, a ukrainian village of defense, they were successfully disposed of, but now they are sending there, as you say, inexperienced soldiers, but we also understand that they drove the wagnerites out, so to speak , from under bakhmut, but as reported in the general staff of the armed forces the forces of ukraine are driven there anyway by other private military campaigns, how can you compare their fighting ability with the so -called wagnerites, so who ordered the prowagner? of course, this is a completely heterogeneous

unit, but the professionals were there. people who had experience, of course, in such wars as this one, but they had been in some hot spots, had military training and had a kind of mercenary, you know. they were mobilized on the street and brought to the war, they probably don't even understand who they are, who they are fighting for, what for, and why. yes, wagner was taken out of here , and they have really different pvcs. i'll tell you honestly, it looks rather funny. after seeing such a relative success of wagner, they decided that now everyone, everyone, who has the opportunity, everyone will create their own pc, pc and me . for example, a pvc company named after gazprom came to us. it's called torch, well, it's very funny. in fact, i don't know why they need it, probably some kind of security functions they were carried out and they decided to come and fight. of course, they are seriously different in terms of quality, but i will tell you this

: when wagner was here, we felt very serious support, so there was a time when they put us under pressure and they succeeded in us squeeze out of the position and we moved away until we found the key here, the tactic that helped us in the future to remove them from here and dispose of them, probably sending them to kobzon for a concert, well, in general, what is there , yes, so that there is no talking about everyone about what they retreated there because they don't give them shells or something else yes, he probably didn't say that there weren't very many of them left here and that they didn't really achieve their goals, so it can be assumed that wagner was taken despite this to this circus with a trip to moscow and so similar is possible to believe that they simply lost combat capability and went to recovery well, how can they achieve their goals, so to speak, as you say, if you destroy them there , including a lot of them under bahmut, and the video that you publish

in particular serves as proof of this watched how the pilot drone operator works and destroys the enemy in the trenches yes, when on the approach there are our assault troops and there they are all in the ground i still have a question about the bull that is actually used in these drones resets because it is different and you improve it with variety and tell a little about it, and in general, accuracy because it is also very important to reset uh , well, let's say the same god so that he does not harm ours at the same time, it must be a serious skill, tell me how you prepare and what you use ah, about ammunition, there are several types, there are home-made ammunition, and a large number are produced by volunteers, but you know, they are produced, so to speak , absolutely legally, that is , the body itself is produced, as a rule, it is plastic, in which

there are steel fragments for impressions, and already in obukhiv substances, they are added here, where it is possible, accordingly, already qualified military personnel. yes , we have fugation fragments , ammunition , we have cumulative ammunition. only of american production, they have fragmentation and cumulative ammunition, that is, it also has a cumulative one, if you hit a light armored vehicle or some anti-tank missiles, then the accumulative jet of this side will detonate, but in compromising equipment it will burn, but they have a shrapnel skirt to impress the infantry, you can give it, for example, on the bc technique and simultaneously hit the infantry that is nearby. in the video they drop ammunition up to 500-50 g and something so big and interesting eh sometimes it is difficult to convey

recently we have started to master incendiary munitions thermal munitions eh which during a chemical reaction heat up to a high temperature you can even burn through the armor of the tank, so if it is correct, hit it somewhere in the radiators, these are the nomenclature used specifically for screeds , well, this is a slightly wider nomenclature, because the drone is capable of carrying up to 1.5 kg of anti-aircraft grenades, hand-held cumulative grenades for the impression of pg-7 equipment pg-7l shots to rpg-7 are known to everyone and are also used. well, there are all kinds of interesting home-made ones, for example, there is such a type of ammunition as high-explosive ammunition for demining, you can throw it into a trench if we suspect that there may be some detonation and the explosion of the extinguishing action of the explosives, all the stretch marks, everything that was there against the infantry will be removed and we will continue. this

communication is already a little from a different perspective in a different context in countermeasures. and how do you assess this prospect in general, because from the beginning , we remember there was uh, for several manufacturers , then it was already a year for dozens, but all the same , we are in the drone war, at least some experts who know about this and say that we will lose it is precisely because we are not developing as we should in this direction. so, what is the main problem, in your opinion, in the minds, financing , ordering, and what are the prospects for the coming months. let's say this, look at what i know. if we talk about production potential, yes. in our country, there are enterprises that have it and enterprises that have repurposed from other types of production to the production of drones. yes, there is

a raw material base, and it is ordered about the financial part. i know what there is. well, at least this is public information. that with reserved in the country funds for the development of ukrainian drones of various models of scouts aspivi drones kamikaze drones of medium attack action e form factor of the wings, that is, in principle , the entire potential, such as production, personnel and financial, is it there, are we lagging behind the russians ? you know, such a question is quite controversial at a certain level, yes at a certain level, where lancets and eagles are flying, at such a more tactical level, yes, we are still behind, after all, russia has invested in this for a long time, it is certain that it was preparing for the russian-ukrainian war, including prepared a-a prepared its potential for drones if we talk about these more

operational level or operational-tactical , otherwise we very well mastered the drones that are sold on the free civilian market, the guts of the dj company, even matrix, uh, quite seriously saturated our drones with these drones units and i would say that we dominate what uh, escorting adjustment groups, control of territories that are under the zone of interest of battalions and brigades, and adjustment of fire at medium and short distances. yes , uh, we dominate here, what should be done? well it is simply necessary for the state or the authorized bodies that are there to deal with it so that they monitor the market of ukrainian manufacturers so that they find the best. and how should it be found? it should be found in communication with the

military. it really works to order them and put them on the front, you know, they are like the functions of volunteers, so we need to collect funds, our funds seem to be already accumulated in the state, so then we need to find the need to understand exactly which drone is needed in which you see, order it at the best price, of course, without overcharging because , well, it’s cheaper, cheaper, we pay for the same thing, we order more, then you probably know that the important thing is how to distribute them rationally so that they get into the hands of those who can use them , so here is the recipe well, of course, you mentioned lancets, we know that they are quite effective, but they are expensive to her , more cheap are the variations from china, and here it is also worth mentioning that china has increased supplies of supplies to the russian federation there the sum was called the figure of 100 million dollars, which is quite a lot. so, i have a question about this part of the question, because the russians are building

several enterprises for the production of shekheds under an iranian license, at the same time they are increasing supplies from the prc, and therefore there may already be them . let's say this at the beginning of the next year, many times more than now, it was announced in russia that there will be even such swarms . houses and in this part. and what is the overall prospect from our side to counteract this hadron swarm? what do you think, niki ? let's say drones of the class like shat, yes, drones like lancet. well, of course, there are two ways to counter it, this is the classic way to shoot them down , that is, for example, if talk about the city of kyiv. what kind of beer of different classes, both missile systems and anti-aircraft systems

, yes, for countermeasures, well, in this, in this, let's say, in this, in this class, their detection system is very important , but also i know from what i know that we now we detect all this quite effectively if we talk about the lancet. this is still a more front-line tool if the shaheds fly to our rear and attack. i don’t know why they attack residential buildings, why do they do it, but they have been doing it for a long time. for me, it is very difficult to understand, after all, even in war, there should be some ethical norms. if we talk about lancets as means that operate on the front, then here we need to develop means of radio-electronic warfare. and the priority is to peel the lancet control channel at least in in the last phase of its impression, that is, theoretically, there is a way to install jammers on the equipment or near the equipment, which will jam the lancet control channels, and it will be ineffective in the last phase of the impression , that is, it will not hit the target, but will hit somewhere

nearby, since the lancet is rechargeable it is very important for them to get into these places. thank you, mr. mykola, for the opportunity to communicate . it was very interesting. i hope that our viewers also. on our air, russian ships and aircraft assigned to the black sea fleet practice the skills of blocking and destroying vessels, this is known by the military media center about the ministry of defense of ukraine, the experts of the center note that in this way, after leaving the grain agreement, the occupiers are preparing to attack civilian ships in the black sea, and as ukrainian yes, foreign ones who leave the parties of ukraine or move in their age, we are now in touch nataliya humenyuk, head of the joint coordination process of the defense of the south of ukraine, mrs. captain of the first rank

ms. humenyuk, congratulations glory to ukraine i congratulate you as a hero glory eh. if we talk about what russian ships are preparing for, can you tell us in more detail what exactly is meant by blocking and destroying the court , and how to guess the plans of a crazy enemy - it is a futile task, but we understand we can that quite likely, trying to convince everyone of the mastery of the black sea, russia will resort to provocations, which will create a threat or real danger to the vessels of civilian vessels with other flags , accusing ukraine of this preparation can be seen in the fact that they have not repeatedly stated that ukraine attacked their ships with various strange means, such as underwater drones, that is, they already created an arbitrary opinion in society that ukraine is aggressive

and can attack any vessels in the black sea, we want you ask again about yesterday's rocket attack and about the current night, because at night there was a report that shakeds were flying yesterday, on the day of the attack, the rockets changed their direction and we knew about what was shot down 36 of enemy cruise missiles and there should have been clarification on daggers . please tell me. can you update the information for now. and combine the results of the missile attack and the night rocket attack and inform us of possible new information, so what goals did the enemy have, first of all, the most important goal the enemy is the detection of our air defense systems and bypassing them for the most effective work, that is , we can see the mass of enemy attacks again. they use a large number of missiles and

try to use different types weapons, i.e. for bread, the use of air-based missiles, add drones, this is all aimed at exhausting air defense systems, including maneuvering, the same maneuvering of missiles when they are looking for a long time, allegedly for their target , in fact, they are trying to detect the maximum number of air defense systems in our zone of responsibility was destroyed among these 36 e 5 missile kirovohrad region, that is, the direction of movement was really very diverse and the courses carried out by air missiles on targets were aimed at that in order to maximally cover the territory and both the southern and central parts up to the western part, we saw that for several weeks the russians did not use missiles such as the 101x

555 well, in fact, the day before they used them, probably accumulating the right amount, in your opinion, why did they manage to do exactly that tactics this time , it is quite likely that even with the conclusion of the grain agreement, they needed to use the most effective and powerful means, so they concentrated various types of missiles, in particular tigers, which are difficult to detect and destroy the system we of air defense when they attacked the port infrastructure and struck the ground specifically. and later during this time, rather , they increased production. let me remind you that who was the first, they continue to produce, and among those missiles that we shoot down, we see markings of fairly recent production of these ones, that is, the accumulation takes place in such ways and they collect potential, we

talked about the fact that it is quite likely that among such attacks they will take a break for two days in order to reorient themselves , re-plan the application and such an attack in in principle, it was completely foreseen and what the result of the anti-aircraft defense indicates, that is, i'm sorry, they will probably use this logic and in future attacks it cannot be ruled out. although they are also focused on what we are analyzing and adjusting and will look for new tactics in the future. if we talk about e-carriers can you tell me from which exact carriers the rockets were launched by the knocks of the snakes er were there launches from submarines from submarines and in general launches from certain carriers

how difficult is it er to do from different types of carriers during the evening attack you used 195 which are the carriers of these 101 555 years e-e also adapted during yesterday and tactical aviation to detect again in the future routes and the correct exit to the lilac lines for a powerful attack of strategic aviation e in particular and directed the enemy of its drying in the directions of the snake at the un again as such distracting maneuvers and in the area of ​​its only once again there were faba communities in order to once again mark their dominance in the black sea except there is nothing in that demonstration, ms. humenyuk, the day before, we already saw a photo of the ukrainian naval drone magura b5, and i am sure that you have also seen its photos , it was presented at the international

defense exhibition international defense interstrefire, there are even certain details. a compact e-e machine can withstand large ships of the russian fleet of the russian black sea fleet, which they keep near the shores of the temporarily annexed crimea, as i see it, the application will be complex, but the attack element is enough powerful, persuasive power also has an element of the unexpected, that is, the analogy of david and goliath is appropriate, it is quite likely that we will check and see if we talked about the fact that yesterday we missed the shelling, but the enemy periodically changes its tactics, moreover, the military personnel say that the enemy is studying excellently, tell ms. nataliya, that is be careful in the coming days, or

do you assume that there will be more shelling by the end of the week, but we can definitely say that it will always be a combination of missiles and drones , that is, they do not want this tactic to retreat so unambiguously, the tactics of combined attacks are considered quite successful for them. they also see certain results because, as a rule, there are hits during such intense work, and all the more so because they used tactics and wave-like launches with the alternation of different types of weapons , as well as the simultaneous attacks they carried out on the other hand, at the same time, the launch of missiles of different taxo-technical characteristics and on all missiles, including different directions, therefore such attacks will be repeated

, it is absolutely obvious that probably because of the peculiarities of the weather will be a certain pause for now, but the next days will be quite worrying. thank you nataliya humenyuk this morning, the head of the joint coordination process of the defense force of southern ukraine, the captain of the first rank was on the live broadcast of the national marathon for the last 12 hours , i worked with you at the tv channel rada as part of the only news of the marathon is tetyana goncharova vadim kolodyachok well, the marathon continues ukraine