[000:00:00;00] special divisions have been created in the army of the rvatized complex. i think that this will allow and speed up the introduction of robotized platforms. there should be many of them and massively. in our time before the war , how did we project such a view of the robotized complex? what did they develop the doctrine of? it is the mosquito doctrine, that is, there are many of them, and there should be 1,000 of them, and they should also be like itrons in the form of drones on earth, they also have functions , that is, intelligence and versions of eh and eh now, as it were here is the present time we are in

basically, of course, we cooperate with bacterial organizations that, uh, can finance certain of our developments, uh, it is clear that work with natural defense requires uh, efforts , so to speak, handing over some bureaucratic mm attachments. but this is what the volunteers are doing now, of course a lot of work with volunteers in order to help us imagine eh our developments act as the driving force behind all our projects, starting from land drones, sea drones, submarine drones, but i am still trying to get into the zone of state participation and the role of the main customer in this process, that is, do you know what robotic platforms are currently needed by the ministry of defense? so far, for you it remains a secret. now we

will reconnect if eduard dotsenko doesn't hear from us, and now we can show you the most common platform developed by an estonian company, and this one is robotic the platform has already been purchased for 11 countries in europe and nato, and we have a video from a platform called a service produced by the milgemartix company. it became such a pioneer in the development of such a modular platform, a platform that interested everyone. and here, mr. eduard, we are now playing a video. if you are seeing this now, this is an estonian platform from the company milgemrobotics and it

satisfies all the military countries of nato or there is an understanding that we can do similar things using our developments and can we take such approaches as a basis in order not to invent a bicycle and implement something that will definitely interest the military also quite a good development i think that eh our ukrainian engineers too sowing is such a solution, well, it should be different in shape, and not only the tracked type, but also the wheeled one, there are advantages of tracked ones, if the advantage is wheeled, er, useful systems, so there should be a variety of them. и для разных задач это разные быть работизированные платформи well, now you have at least four more solutions for our military, this is the remote control

of controlled platforms, the creation of those modules is a favor, there is a scorpion, there is an even smaller platform that is smaller than the scorpion, where the scorpion is used as a matter of fact, here are four solutions, which of them do you consider to be the most promising, and which needs, relatively speaking , such a promotion in order for the military to pay attention to this project and find some options for interaction with your company the platform must be different and for different tasks, but we have chosen for ourselves. here we have settled mainly on basic platforms that can be used for the transportation of the wounded. it is possible to install torelli, it is possible to install psr eh various grenade launchers and also for the transportation of eh, well

, for the transportation of mines for eh distribution by one person on the field . that is and eh, that is, of different purposes, so that is why the main direction is that of a small system that opportunity of remote control both in line of sight and the possibility through a repeater through a drone at a greater distance , that is, we are now supplying eh combat parts of this type, that is, the work of small privatized systems through a repeater through a gate. that is, you are now supplying the armed forces with modular a solution based on the gnome platform . i understand it that way. now, we are still developing, too, here is a system related to e-e with active magnets, for example, it is a

leopard tank for keting, it is based on a jeep and the possibility of how to say also stationary control of layouts from above, which resembles a leopard and is remotely controlled, and there are already such samples on the battlefield to come out with such and such things of his promising developments that are needed there , mr. darda, probably directed the direction, thank you very much for your explanations i would like to remind you that the ministry of defense has such a created actor of technology. next week there will be a certain closed meeting among the developers of robotic platforms. i hope to meet your company there and for in conclusion, there are probably some public things that can be announced, we will probably speak again to show that , after all, the ministry of defense is taking steps to really create technological things

that protect our soldiers on the battlefield . thank you very much for including our viewers . la-espresso was eduard trotsenko , co-founder and general director of infocom ltd llc, and then we move to another topic , or rather to the same topic, but dmytro umanets, the chairman, joins us for another guest of the supervisory board of the association of arms and military equipment manufacturers of ukraine, generals, dan, dmytro, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, the studio, and i am glad to see you, mr. serhiy , mr. general, i would actually like you to tell us something about the enterprises of the association that are currently involved in the production of robotic platforms. i remember that there was such a platform called the peacemaker, it was even shown at the parade, the name was very good, it

was just suitable for use and there , uh, anti-tank guided missiles, uh, it looked very nice, what's up with that now by project , this project exists, they are making peace , they really said that everything is correct, uh, the company that works on this program, they are uh, somewhat modernism, this is according to this program. the so-called program to speed up this project, because this project really deserves a lot of respect. first of all, because

there will be much less people dying in our country, and in our country, after all, the state leadership is rightly paying a lot of attention to this if to equate them with our enemy, people are more people, so they can destroy this problem for themselves, or let them destroy this problem, and we need to preserve our people. especially since our best people are fighting at the front, this should also be kept in mind as regards specifically that means robotic systems, they can be used for various purposes , you understand, starting with the fact that you can put weapons there, let's say a large-caliber machine gun or an anti-tank anti-tank

weapon, in order to destroy tanks, you can to use these robotic systems to transport materials, ammunition, wounded, etc. 200 unfortunately, war has its own way, these means can be very useful now in combat, but i would like to focus your attention you have such an opportunity there, serhiy, to convey to the state leadership that the state needs to get involved in this process, the program of allocation of funds in the garages in these same ones, now these processes cannot be carried out, this is already

the past, as they say, and so on this is it the main thing is for the state to pay attention to this project and to this program now. well, i think you have no fewer connections of authority than i do. and you have contacts with all the commanders of the branches and types of troops, and the question arises whether you tried to convey to them what was really already the next stage is not possible to continue creating robotic platforms in garages , because in fact, without a systematic approach, we will have such units of samples instead of mass serial production of such equipment , and then the question arises, what could be such a main impetus for the state to change the attitude towards the companies that create such technologically complex models was knocking. the leadership of the military leadership of the top military leadership is reached so that a decision is made and then

the funds have already been allocated and everything else concerns the parliament there, the president and so on and so on, well , first of all, this is so that the leadership understands that it is really very effective a means to destroy our such a very difficult evil enemy, which will not go anywhere even if the war ends, this neighbor will remain as an enemy. therefore, we weapons of disarmament in ukraine need to be thought about now and tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, you understand er . the fact is that mr. serhiy we left the proposal, we have been running this program for seven years, but er, the issues were mainly resolved somewhere on the average level at

levels of the department of management and so on, but these people don't always understand this, they understand better if they come with a ready-made project, you understand. well , i don't really want to offend them, but unfortunately, to this day, they are more they think how to say it about pockets, you understand, and not about the state, unfortunately, i am there, i have already said it several times in my speeches before. if the most terrible thing for us, mr. serhiy vin , has not been seen recently, it means to destroy this middle class, that is what we call, you understand, replace people with more progressive ones. those who understand which operatives solve the problems of the issue instead of listening and doing nothing, well, i looked it up. thank you very much for

including for your realistic assessments of the current situation, after all, we need to make joint efforts to change the situation in order to all the developments that exist in different companies have still progressed to production much faster. i hope that by working together we will do it and i want yours and the management. i will remind our viewers that several of us from the press were dmytro umanets, the head of the supervisory board of the association of arms and military equipment manufacturers of ukraine , the lieutenant general of the reserve, and later we will talk about drones, but already aerial ones, there was one a large package of american aid worth 1.3 billion dollars, within the framework of which attack drones will be manufactured by american companies for the armed forces of ukraine, but there is

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destroy the enemy uh we are still using our backfire plus some fv drones, then we move on to the backfire project itself, what is its peculiarity, what was the reason for its creation , what are the tactics of application, and so on, that is, what kind of project is it, see the reason for its creation - it is, in principle, there are few of them in this format uav there were not many of them on the front , we needed a tool that would allow us to hit targets in the relative depth of the enemy and it was created.

the e-e uav works at a depth of 35 km and one of its main advantages is that it does not have radio communication, radio control, it flies along the route, we have a protected technology that allows us to enter it without interfering with radio communication, the question arises how is the destruction of the target ensured dropping ammo because if he flies along the route without communication with the operator, it means that we have to lay down all the key points before you start like that. this is how it works. our intelligence gives us the coordinates of the target and uh, he bombs according to the coordinates uh, he has a ballistic calculator which calculates exactly where and at what moment of time he needs to drop a bomb one or two er and he automatically does it quite successfully and accurately and the mass of the payload there as i heard up to

3 kg it is true more than 4 kg the question arises then what are the main ones now there are problems facing the team that developed this complex from the point of view of scaling production , increasing the production of complexes, you are not predisposed to anything like that, but the only problem is that there is not enough finance. there are a few more points that need to be finalized so that it can be handed over to the troops and we want to put it into service, in principle, we are engaged in this, i think somewhere in the region of 1.5-2 months it will officially be put into service, guys from other units, they will be able to order it through the ministry of defense, they did not use this

potential of the accelerator of the ministry of defense, a new structure has been created there, which is aimed at you to speed up the delivery of new developments into service . to work with him, the numbers are there, this is a brainstorming structure that also promises support for teams that create new samples , this experience was not used ah, this experience we are now implementing and in principle we are ready to cooperate er weapons for you er we have several project projects that we presented this and backfire and a few more interesting things er and we are launching our fundraising company er on bigfire on the unit itself and on our other developments, where can you find the coordinates of the unit itself , because i probably should have made a qr-code, but

i didn’t do it, how can the viewers who are now listening to you and see your product, where can they find a website or something platform to donate to your project, see the easiest way we will go to google and write angry birds no and one of the first is one of the first links it will be precisely to the site of our production and through it you can already find there there will be a link to the fund eh to which you can donate eh, in principle, this is the scheme the easiest thing i can do. now, let me suggest a move. i think that the audience heard this and will do it, and it will provide some financial support. and how many complexes have already been made , what is the composition of the complex, the cost of these general

things, so that the viewers have a certain understanding, uh see in general during this time, uh, 60 uh, about 60 airplanes were made , the airplanes themselves are not a complex, some were uh, uh, destroyed by the enemy, some were reworked . per year, it is about 60 e-e airplanes e-e one complex includes three planes and the complex also includes the e-e control station, then the e-e zip repair kit and, in principle, all this is the basis of the complex , the cost of the complex is from $50,000. it is

possible for three planes and a control station install the control station on the car base. and i also forgot to include the catapult itself, which launches the planes, in principle , here is the information about the cost and equipment of artem, when we talk about the fact that the plane flies off-program route, then this means that all these attempts by the russians to use rap to shoot down of course, these or other planes do not have any influence on your complex, and as i understand it, it is absolutely correct, because of the coordinates, due to one interesting development that we have, and in principle, the enemy cannot do anything to us

only visual to spot and shoot down with a missile but it is economically inefficient and then the nuance is related to the warhead because this is actually now a challenge for all developers of strike drones because there is no typical warhead enterprise frankly speaking there is probably no authority to create a warhead that's right the authority is there er in the units themselves that are supposed to provide equipment for the combat units how does it happen you have different variations of what we can bomb the last thing we started using it smerch trophy missiles, what are they disassembled, they are cluster ones and here we use the cluster ammunition of this missile itself as a bomb and what are the most typical targets that you program for the use of your strike drone, what is in the priorities from the first, the first priority

is the warehouses of bc and e- e rap stations are hostile rap and rap if it is about what was used that there are at least 60 planes what is the effectiveness in terms of destroying targets one there to two one to three what are the average indicators there you can say well look at the planes here eh it's hard to tell you because many of these planes were lost on the test site when they were being developed in terms of efficiency, this is a viable aircraft and it can be used for quite a long time, some of our planes are already flying 4- 5 months, the effectiveness of the defeat, well, in this case, we simply cannot count it. in principle, every combat flight is a hit

target, and when we talk about other projects that are currently being developed by ukrainian teams , you will go your own way. are you trying to interact with other companies to take any better solutions to shorten the path to increase the efficiency of development or application, of course we interact and also offer our solution to other companies, e.e. another team, and one of the bonuses is that our team is heterogeneous , we have quite a lot of civilians, these are software engineers techniques, and we can linguistically divide them into four groups that work on different e-e projects, several on the same project, they just have a slightly different vision. and because of this, we choose the best

the solution to one or another problem well, that is, in fact, i understand that uh, the webfire, which was a year ago and now it is two different complexes , because during this time, many components that were supposed to improve this design have probably changed, these are so different planes, uh, even visually, they are different. this is a very big process, there are many innovations and changes, because the conditions of the front dictate their own needs. and when we talk about the average production volumes there, now they are limited there by finances. if they say that financing is not limited, then the company can provide there well, that is, there are 30-40 complexes per month . are these too optimistic indicators? i think that maybe everything depends on the finances, we have an understanding of how to scale, we have