[000:00:00;00] there weren't many of us for a very short time. and there were a lot of guys from poltava, and that's what i'm saying to my guys. there he came out of them in the description who called himself senior said so and so i say there are 10 of us there you have 40 let's go 10 out of 10 he says come on it's normal i go back to my boys i say guys i agreed everything will be ok somewhere out of 10 he says phew class we still have chances, so we're going out. well yes, on the so-called clearing there, not far from the railway station, but unfortunately they did not keep their word and covered us with 40 people, and there was such a fight. well, in general, we

lost a little, and after that, when we got a little bit of trendy, the guys came up to me and said, well, you yes, i agreed to be a diplomat, yes, a diplomat. since then, i became a diplomat. it is somehow related to your profession. legally , everything is much simpler. this is my ability to negotiate with people and find some common things. then it didn’t work out now, it works out a little bit sometimes, but not then, dmitry, in 2022, you were also in the army then. were you already engaged in civil affairs at the time of 2022? i was the deputy commander of the second battalion of our regiment. at that time, we were still preparing for the war. in about 1.5-2 weeks, we already planned, we knew our actions

, what we planned, the data, you then oriented yourself with regard to a full-scale invasion, because there were a lot of conversations, our intelligence, our unit and social networks, we knew all the general data social networks, we knew where the russians were based, we knew where they conduct training every day in any telegram channels and public places , including the russians, you could see where they move equipment, where they make warehouses and so on, we monitored all this, and for me it is already the reference date became february 16, this is a significant date, on february 16, the russian air force closed the black sea and the sea of ​​azov for alleged exercises and completely blocked the kerch strait, then we all understood that this was all the beginning, because they began

to drive e-e into the sea of ​​azov there are light amphibious boats, naval artillery, and so on, and then we followed on social networks that they were moving from the caspian sea to the sea of ​​azov through the bottom of their small fleet, well, small, let's say , caliber well, everything was clear to us, just like that, there is no fleet from the caspian sea pours into the sea of ​​azov and does not close the kerch strait, since then we had already planned and prepared for the defense of the city of mariupol and knew our plan of action. we knew what and how we would do about what awaits kyiv, kharkiv, bucha irpin and other ukrainian cities. we saw where the enemy was gathering, uh, they are from the north , where well, belarus is so realistic, they have gathered a lot of forces in principle and were monitoring the gathering of the rostov

belgorod kursk region. that is, we understood that it would be a blow to the north east, well , realistically, but still, we hoped that the main blow will be just a distraction maneuver, well, this is what i say from myself, how we understood among ourselves that it will be a distraction maneuver , it is clear that the blow will not go east and precisely in the oos zone, well, really, few people could have thought that in no- they don't have the guts to really start in the center of europe in the geographical center of europe a certain large-scale war with missile attacks, bombardment from airplanes and so on, we thought it would be in the oos zone there in the area there maryinka avdeyevka mariupol volnovakha well the price of the direction there where were they all this time, all these eight years of hostilities. but it will be some kind of more powerful attack. well, we really thought, well, after

putin's recorded statement, what is he saying about the dnr and the composition of russia? we really thought that, well. their task will be to capture the entire region, attach luhansk region to donetsk, so their tactical dash is a strategic task. well, that's how we understood it. well, a small headquarters somewhere in a small unit somewhere far in the east of ukraine is what will happen. that's exactly how they will reach irpen, well, for me it's personal it was a shock, it was even more so. for me, it is still a shock all day long. that we received a blow not from the east, but for what we were preparing for , yes, and measures. well, for example, i couldn't even think about what

was going on. from the crimea to there will be a march to mariupol and we will simply be locked up in the kevitz of the western side, i could not even think because i knew that on this way there is ginichesk, the port city of melitopol , berdyansk is not a small port place either . more well, for me it was incomprehensible, for me it was such a shock and such a painful blow that we were locked up, well, in fact , from where we did not expect, here it is. so i can also say that when we still had communication and we saw in the telegram these cars are like katsap tigers armored cars roll around the center of kharkiv, one or two of them reached their destination, they set fire to it, they broke it, but they reached it. well, i couldn’t imagine how it was even possible, dmytro, we are now talking about the military logic that you and your comrades were guided by

. maybe it simply doesn’t exist and your call sign is a diplomat if you had to cross paths with putin somewhere i don’t know under what circumstances but suddenly you would tell him or would you say something to him no i definitely did not say if i had the opportunity to such and such distance to see putin, i would do everything to eliminate him well, because he caused so much pain to our country, he didn't do it well, i don't know, i guess stalin is still well, who can i compare him to, well, for me, putin is not stalin somewhere around, but probably even putin there was more such a comparison, i liked it he’s trying to enter history, he got it, but i don’t know how you choose the worst from the worst, well, this is such an example. i don’t know

why, what makes you like killing people, organizing genocide? no, i understand that in his understanding is cool, but then i would very, very strongly ask the belarusians, the kazakhs, well, all the baltic countries, everyone who borders russia to think, because today we are tomorrow they, well, no one knows what is wrong with his head. these thoughts are extremely inadequate, i am sure you know, i recently reasoned, well, i work as an analyst, analyzing military actions and some political and social events that take place in the world and in ukraine. well, it's been so tight since 2014, really, politically , we'll hang on. i don't know how to say that money

is independent, because i think that well normal healthy a person who is confused by what is happening in his country, he should be interested in politics. why, because then you are the people and the children, there are the same local or state level elections, there are parliamentary presidential elections, you must then know who you are voting for and so on, i'm following all this, i'm interested in geopolitics, why, why, why do they support us, don't they, why is turkey behaving the way it is there , why is china behaving the way it is, why israel is, well, it's interesting to me . well, it's because we need to know because later we will always need this information, well, it probably doesn't apply to people like me, like her, the analyst is sitting there on his computer, he's master of foreign affairs, and

so on . celebrated macron's behavior , why his? well, he really was as neutral as possible towards russia until 2022. well, really, he made such comparisons , but if necessary, i'll go to putin or putin. come, i'm such a type. and i was very wildly surprised by this. i remember there was even an interview somewhere where macron mentioned modern russia in the context of russia. i think, lord . well, you are the president of france. politics must go, uh, alone , history can't be next to politics apart from

history, it's a war, i was very surprised as a person of the president of such a level, i don't know such elementary things, and he then remembered something or a daughter, i don't remember in the context what is yaroslav the wise's surrender what is there what is there married someone french. well, there was something like that, he mentioned it in the context of modern russia, and here it is, like a mouse, we have connections there , i think, my god, what are you doing? well, you are the president of france, but then when you are closer to 22- th year, we see him as macron many times, and once before the start of the full-scale campaign, he already moved to moscow , he really tried to persuade putin not to do this, he understood that there would be a full-scale campaign, not very happy, yes. well, because he wanted to refuse. well, because putin understood that macron well, in reality, he is the president of some democratic country - this is a civilized

country, whoever he is, whatever geopolitician he is, he understands that what putin is going to do is nonsense and horror, and he understood it, and i saw it in macron's eyes for real that he is real. he is very sincerely trying to dissuade putin from his actions , but he did not succeed, and now he is monitoring what france is really doing , macron's statement, the french ministry of defense, how they cooperate with us there, and so on. i see that even such people who were a year ago they are so inclined to walk with putin now as much as possible, not everything is real for them, putin as a politician and as a figure, well, he really died, and this is a very, very positive signal for me that even a country like france, because for me, these were two incomprehensible countries that have large geopolitical

the influence on the territory of europe is germany and france, which really had such about russian politics, yes, yes, it is a real fact and for me it was and now. only now they these people have really seen and understood all this, i think the first real country if it was not it was strange, i'll tell you why. the first country that understood that something was wrong with russia. it's from european countries. it's the netherlands, holland . why malaysian boeing? they've been conducting their investigation since 2014, and even then they saw the facts. they knew and know who shot down which boeing. and they knew that russia already then began to lie as much as possible and this is really the first country and it is now really within the limits of its powers and its small country and it is really

helping a lot because it has clashed since 2014 in fact, after the separation with russia, i experienced firsthand what it is like when you are looked at by peddlers and say one thing and do something completely different. the netherlands are the heroes. how do you make sure we win this war? i will explain why the audience behind your shoulders does not know this. you were a russian prisoner. there for four months, but i look into your eyes and they have so much thirst for life , they have so much knowledge and desire to fight for this country and i really want you to reach victory because i understand that this war is not a joke and today we are sitting here and what will happen tomorrow we are not we know, even in relatively peaceful cities, it may not be tomorrow, but it will definitely happen. tell me, please, what helped you to survive, not to break down and continue your

struggle, not to hide somewhere later, after the capture. you fight for what you love, i'll tell you one thing, it's real , it's a rush. lust for life. i love life. it's beautiful, it's 100%. and i always supported the boys and said that first of all we must survive in order for ukraine to exist. because ukraine cannot exist without us, i said this many times i am sometimes very surprised by the statements of some, well, in my opinion, weak commanders who say such phrases as there, let's fight there and die for ukraine. it's an honor. i say. well, it 's some kind of nonsense. well, you don't have to die for ukraine. you have to win and survive for

ukraine, that is, i i say our task in this war is to survive so that the katsaps died, died or were captured there or simply survived and realized that they were doing something wrong and returned home . i love children very much is considered our future, and who but us can raise them, only we must convey to them with our knowledge and experience how to do more, it is not possible, how is it possible, how is it necessary , what is it to love one's country, what is patriotism , and so on, it is very important and patriotism for i don't want to shout about it, but just do this thing quietly and it doesn't matter. it's not necessarily military. it's a medical worker. it's a teacher. it's a gardener. it's a person who works there

. i don't know our roads. a person who does good for our ukraine, for me, this is a ukrainian who donates to the army, this is a ukrainian, every person who tries , even if it is very difficult for him, how do i switch to the ukrainian language, this is a ukrainian, it is very important, because i myself, well, a native of mariupol , as much as possible from a russian-speaking family all my life i spoke only in russian, and so, after the capture, we left. we and the guys who were there agreed that we would leave. well, it’s like katsapsk , let’s switch to ukrainian. as i can , i switch and talk with you. in the ukrainian language because i think it is fundamentally normal and there is nothing like that because when everyone tells me why did you speak russian there before

that i say you will understand because we are residents of eastern ukraine in particular, we are hostages of many centuries of occupation communist occupation occupied kharkiv donetsk, luhansk, all this language is russian, all these lessons of russian language literature with pushkin there, gogol, turgenev and so on, it’s not available either. i’ll tell you who has the most influence on western ukraine. they got pissed off and it's all good, people don't understand that these pushkins, turgenev, it's really imposed on us by that propaganda , it's just that then there was no tv, faban-internets , they just came and said, here's a bill on the wall there in front of the bridge, some hail there, and so on, to ban the ukrainian language accuracy will forbid all ukrainian-speakers there to be taken to siberia that's how it was that's why there are no in these regions

in although i will tell you that still recently there 5-10 years ago in many villages of the donetsk luhansk region people really and now they speak ukrainian, it's just that this urbanization has not reached them and they speak ukrainian in many ukrainian cities, people still speak russian, this is a fact, you can't do anything about it, but you know me. your brain is yours, but you can just at least try. recently, i was watching on youtube. there was an expression: vitya rosovy , er, from the laughter league, now the guy is fighting in the third assault brigade of the armed forces

of ukraine, and he had such a question, right? also until 2000, some incomprehensible person spoke russian on the 14th or 13th , although he is from lviv and he said that’s correct. plan, but he says, i hate most of all those people who, when someone tries to switch to ukrainian from russian, he has loman's surzhik and they laugh at him and say it's better no, i think it's better that way, it's better for surzhiks to sometimes switch to russianisms there insert and so on, but still, over time, in a month, in a year, in 5 years, you will speak ukrainian, and so will your children. living in that family, they will, well, when father and mother speak ukrainian , they will also speak a little ukrainian in the afternoon

language because it is our language, it is our culture, you can’t say well, it’s all real , it’s propaganda narratives, what about our country, there was no language, there was no language, yes , but it’s very strange, as if according to their narratives , there was no, but even under hail rockets and occupation, all this remained, so it is not what it was, but it was always there, and they were really hardened in such tough, extremely difficult conditions, where they always try to torture us there and so on. and i understand this as a person who was born in the east of ukraine in a russian-speaking city by people just reading some monographs, some literary poems, i don't know, the works of the same taras hryhorovych shevchenko, you just understand how difficult all this is, what we have now

is given to us. so that we don't have it, but we have it. so it is genetically embedded in us, because if it were artificial , it would have been in us for a long time. we are like that, yes, you are, i know a lot of guys who really , on the contrary, switched from russian to ukrainian, well, like this well, knock it out, it will be even worse for you, our example is very illustrative and i hope that the viewers who watch our interview will draw their own conclusions dmytro i want to finish about a very important thing and about what you are living now among other things, among military life, you also have the goal of returning home to all the boys from azov, both military and peaceful , and a special installation was even created

in naisokhiya square in kyiv. please tell me what can be done in order to return them. you said that for you . this is your number one task, which one? well , first of all, a few per day in order to return them . there are negotiations and so on, it's all clear. our first task is not only mine, but also that of the whole society, and it is very important. it is to support the relatives of prisoners of war. it is clear, but they already have at least some clarity, they have lost, they are already hoarding and, uh, they already understand that this is a feasible fact

. and there are such events as capture when your relative there is in obscurity in most cases and is unknown. how is he there, where is he or he is missing, he is being tortured, he is not being tortured, where is he, and these relatives are growing unreal every day, their hair is sitting, well, it is real , but sometimes i see when such relatives gather in some squares and squares and so on to support and somehow voice some slogans to that side, this is the first people are gathering in line not to say something to our president there or to our broadcast services, it is to russia, we want to return our boys today here and now we are ready to take everyone away even though today you are taking everyone to this formula is offered to everyone. i think many times over once

and we want to do it, but we know how russia behaves. well, it behaves realistically and continues to behave like an aggressor, a terrorist. and when i see these families at these rallies, actions, people are really passing not that they ask us what is going on here, but sometimes they even see that this is a family in support of prisoners , no one even approaches them to say thank you or hold on or we are with you show that we are ukrainians, we are all one big family, that is one of the tasks of such actions, including in order to society was not indifferent to such families , this does not mean that they need to be given money or gifts of cars, castles that they can simply come and hug so that they feel so human . thank you for the human support that their men who also defended ukraine are now in such inhumane conditions in

an enemy of a friend is to reach uh first of all first of all to russia tell them to show that the people come to our senses we are also here people we did not start this war you came to us on our land we did not come to you and we are not coming you do not come to us we need your land, we need our land , our borders. we want to show that we are not slaves like in russia. they are really waiting for a fur coat, pelmeni or lada kalin, well, it's just terrible in the 21st century, i don't understand what's in people's heads, but we want to show that for us the most important value is a person and a human life, and it's important for us to bring a person home, for us it's like for siblings for for

society and for ukraine, for the state as a whole, it is very important that the state of ukraine really fights for each of its military and civilian prisoners, and there are also many of them. unfortunately, i do not understand why they take civilians as prisoners. well, for me, it is a mystery, who were they taken there? did you get up and we can't find it because sometimes it seems to me personally that the enemy has wool in his head instead of a brain somehow and the third third task is to reach the international society to the countries, for example, of the same j7 yes, a big seven because i believe that political geopolitical economic pressure and the influence of sanctions are not enough, well, really, because you can do worse, you can do more

, you can press more powerfully, and this is also in the forces of germany, america, and japan, they can do so, including economic influence to russia at least, well, if it doesn't end the war, then at least give back , just give back the people, these are the people, they are already there, they are already there , so many of them are already exhausted. there, those people return there somehow, they will recover, they will gain strength, we say, ok, they will simply extradite . well, let's knock on the international society of society , find a third party, be it turkey or china, these are countries with which, in principle, russia has some kind of relationship. china has the authority before russia to simply

take all these prisoners until the end of hostilities until the end of the war to the territory of the chinese, just fatten them there, cure them , give them decent medical care everything must be under the reporting of the ministry of foreign affairs, let's hope that such thoughts are heard there as well, but we are knocking and knocking and we want to be heard and to be heard, including all these third countries that have some will and spirit have come and they said there, including to russia, a guy from ok, you don’t want them to return to ukraine until the end of hostilities, give them to us, they will be there in the conditions of some kind of camp, i don’t know, we will just feed them, provide medical care, here they are

example of turkey i have a request for you you have a request for our international partners and i have a request for you personally tell all your brothers and sisters that we are infinitely grateful this is me this is my daughter this is my colleagues we believe in you we really want all of you to return home to their families, and these are not just empty words, these are important words, i want to thank you for this conversation , i will explain why, and you personally inspired and motivated me a lot, again, a person who was at the front and survived captivity, she radiates life, she radiates strength, she radiates energy and you have enough spirit to share this energy with me and others, do it in the future. be sure to come back alive and salute for what you are doing. we thank you. communal services