tv [untitled] July 30, 2023 1:30pm-2:01pm EEST
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[000:00:00;00] everything is clear. everything is already clear to everyone. when muravetske talks again about the safety of the provocations of the pusher, this is the other. this means that everyone has already understood . it has been like this for a long time, you know. when lukashenko comes to putin and speaks in front of the cameras, you also know how a person who has learned his role has learned. so they gave me a piece of paper, she studied it. and then the field answers, i can't stop them , oh, no, they want to go on an excursion, what am i telling them? and what about you? what is that, and they don't care. well, i'm holding them vladimirovych, i keep them as we agreed there, well, well, you understand, lukashenko was never a good actor, he is a good actor in his own way, maybe i am better than lukashenka, but unfortunately, we depend not on me, but on
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him, and that's how it is it looks like when he started to speak and name geographical names, everything became clear to everyone. and by the way , last year, it was not immediately. they were also the presidents of poland and lithuania last year, because here and there they met us at our homes in suvalkas. just nobody could not understand how the russians can do something because, well, the use of the russian army from the kaliningrad region or those units that were on the territory of belarus, now they have brought everything out and seen. this is also not accidental , this is to say to our army. what do you want from us , our army in general, in belarus, the belarusian army lukashenko did not give any, and we are not there, this is a bandit, but you cannot be that the russian army directly participates in such a conflict, this is really a project of a world war, and now everyone understands that they want
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to go the hybrid way, and i think that right now and the national security council of the united states and the national security advisor of poland are currently discussing, let's say, this toolkit, this mechanism for responding to hybrid threats, because it is clear that if you make a mistake, world war. there was czechoslovakia, which said to defend itself like ukraine, and the territory of which, in fact, was given to hitler or berlin, the student region, and czechoslovakia itself means little by little, well, just it was not difficult to compare the territory of ukraine with the territory of czechoslovakia and germany with russia at that time, but one way or another, czechoslovakia had the entire military industry, sit
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down. she really was almost disarmed , that's all. from the point of view of obligations, you said that there are no obligations , but then there were obligations, simply obligations to czechoslovakia were considered. to protect the sovereignty of ukraine so that ukraine remains a sovereign state and how is it going to be there, well, it will be there somehow, and then go, entered poland, and here the real security guarantees from great britain, from france, and the second world war began, but now, in fact, putin is going exactly the way of hitler, everything is as he dreamed. it seems to me that he, he reaches poland, tries to destabilize poland first by a hybrid way, and hitler also tried to them anything, he demanded only one thing in poland, he carried the corridors, they made absolutely
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the same story with the so-called danish access corridor of germany to the free city of gdańsk, an extraterritorial corridor that poland did not want to provide, and there were hybrid and various provocations in gdańsk, they all started because you had a mute germany, then it was famous. this story when hitler disguised himself as a sesar this polish form is also very practical and they attacked the german radio station and hitler and helig then told what a horror it was to the reg stasi, well, that is , they nobody invents anything new, these people they simply act according to specific patterns that have been known for a long time, which are classic, and the only thing that is not clear is why. they think that the world does not understand this, that all are stupid, they do not understand it. well, for a while, the world said , including us in ukraine. what, oh, and putin dovben
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he is weakened. so you see, he does not control the situation and so on , he made a huge number of mistakes according to this 18, we say that he acted like an impeccable computer, no, but on the other hand, we understand how these mistakes happen, that putin always misses mistakes when he believes that he wants to believe, and his environment feeds this faith, let's say how it was with er, you understand that all these people whom he trusted, medvedchuk, are still there, someone told him that the ukrainians are only waiting for him, that as soon as he comes to kyiv everyone will just run there with flowers and flowers on the tanks, and by the way, this masha zakharova is just saying that ukrainians are mad that they don't have a president like that, but i want someone like putin
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, they say a library in ukraine, and it's very strange, but when they just some games are played that do not involve the support of the population. this is how now, when they rely on the support of the population, they always lose because they always believe that they can buy everyone, that they can shut everyone's mouths either by force or money, that's why they don't believe in any popular uprisings in the maidans in and others, but when it comes to purely military operations, or purely military operations, or about otaku, or some kind of agent game , they may not make mistakes in such groups, because that is what they were trained to do, they are bad politicians but not bad the chekists and now we are not talking about an operation that involves the joy of the polish people over the appearance of the wagner group, but we are simply talking about a hybrid provocation that they are capable of constructing, that is why they are dangerous , if we are talking about it, we are already talking about it. why are you talking about it in order to lower the degree of this danger, because we understand it and the poles, if
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they understand it, if the poles will tell us about it and that if wagner comes here , we will think that it is a russian attack on poland , here is something to be said well, there is no such thing yet but this is if it is said that we do not believe in any wagner, that these will be russian and belarusian provocations and they will be answered, and not only the poles should say this, the white house should say this. but you are right here when you said that putin will have an answer such as you noticed, i don't control the answer, but he will understand the consequences, and if he understands the consequences, he may not start this operation, but he will always blackmail, not like a grain deal, now you understand the blackmail of such an operation, nothing to anyone it won't add much because you can't take over poland , and you can't take over poland if you track it down. i want to remind you that wagner spent 9 months trying to take over bakhmut, and you understand that the poles give us
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military equipment and so on, but their an army armed with modern equipment, i don't think that wagner will disappear from poland in a few hours , nothing will happen that will endanger the national sovereignty of poland, it is impossible, it only makes sense, a provocation that would be planned as a russian response in in the future, if the russians will know that no hybrid story will work, they will not play this game, they will simply wait for a new story, they will invent something new, i will not be satisfied with them. walked and guessed er chewed and invented some new combinations in this movie about powers putin by the way, he is very similar very similar he is becoming more and more similar to this character that's all
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, but everyone is important to us, it is important to unravel every combination of putin, because if we correctly treated his behavior in the 22nd year, if we did not disorient him in the period of 2019-2022, we infected peaceful countries with our whole problem that we did not evaluate and did not want to evaluate their intentions. although they loudly do you remember what putin also said? as i said that no country of any ukrainian people exists, and medvedev who said that we will not talk to president volodymyr zelensky because he is a nazi, fascists, everything in the world, we will wait for the next president of ukraine and we in the network, conversations were perceived exclusively as journalism. and people like putin and medvedev do not engage in journalism, they engage in preparing the public for aggression. unfortunately, we really omitted it, and
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even later when we were specifically warned. but what can we say about it? we need to move on now yes, at least there are weapons in the budget, for example, poland has been building a border with belarus all this time, saying that they will close the border with belarus now. this will also be correct. to relate to putin's new intentions, by the way, i really liked your comparison of putin with dr. evil. i really guessed who is in the portrait of dorian gray. the more evil putin does, the more pathetic he just becomes. he was not a handsome man. we will never be honest , handsome man. but nevertheless, he is straight he's kind of disgusting, now i think we're here, he was disgusting from the first day , how can i say it. that's how i recognized him. and when i saw him there for the first time in 1998 or the ninth year, he was always disgusting. it's just that nobody wanted him like that
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look, he was in these big suits, these hands, these pants, jackets, and all of this looked somehow clownish, like some terrible type. and people wanted to turn a blind eye to it. it was very strange that they turn a blind eye to the way he dresses like himself . leads that he is just a gopnik, some kind of distraction and all these people who wrote the whole thing, i recently read a book by pyotr aven about berezovsky, pyotr, he is the head of one of the heads of alfa bank and there, oh, the first thing you did was find a store in london. we are also in the right costumes understood what we mean by these correct and incorrect suits of clothes in the soviet union , then you still have to sew them specially so that the suit fits there like a needle , you have to live individually, especially in the case of putin, who is very small, well,
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you can see with your eyes that all these people understood this that you need to dress properly or look elegant if you are a banker or a politician, etc. and suddenly they see a garden scarecrow in front of them, of course, and they don’t want to notice it, behind it there is an incredible array of gamma complexes, if you are how do you dress if you go shopping and say that you need a jacket 5 sizes bigger and pants two sizes smaller because they have to be short and the jacket has to be big so that you seem like a bigot, a serious man, you go out in front of people as the president of the state, you need a jacket it starts here, it ends here, and the pants end here somewhere, that is, in the pants, you look like some grandfather gardener, and your jacket looks like some thug, and under all this there is no
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shoulder, and no such legs that you need something there wear short and you walk like that among people and people have to pretend it's like in andersen's fairy tale that they don't see it, well, you know , tv doesn't show it, i'll be honest, but when you actually see it, you naturally start to forget about the appearance and now i think these are the people who talked to him, and i will tell you why he looks like that, because he is not used to wearing all this, he walked like all hopliks in sports suits, and when they put clothes on him, yes, and when they put on him something that people wear, it looked it's funny and he still didn't understand how it all happened and he doesn't want to understand it, we're waiting for you to know that if you're the president of russia, they won't tell you what i'm not talking about, they'll tell you to spit, this is also an important point, he doesn't want to hear anything he doesn't want to hear and
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you can understand, let's talk more about girkin, you already mentioned him today about his behavior in the 14th year , but now he is being tried, and navalny spoke about him, saying that girkin is a political prisoner and somehow it will change in our country. sensation navalny supported horking, but that's it it's strange because navalny in principle is not very loyal to ukraine and so on, listen, i don't think that the question of navalny and his evaluation of the hill is related to who supports ukraine or not . although again i remind you that navalny was held there debates among themselves, but the question is what is the composition of who is a political prisoner today? i don't see any error here, girkin is sitting, a person who should be arrested for the article for which he should serve life imprisonment, a person who
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led squads that killed civilians inhabitants not in ukraine and in the former yugoslavia, he is a murderer, he must be detained and tried for this, and he is tried for the fact that the text of the social networks is omitted , well, about the government, and they want to change this article to guilt. by the way, mario is being investigated for this article for the extremism of humoreg should be imprisoned in our country for the fact that this person who actually killed people in donbas, who violated the territorial integrity of our country , these are criminal crimes. political prisoners, relatively speaking. you have a great example without a hill for some steel there, yosyp seryovych. he was in prisons for political articles together with this populator.
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because of his grip on the land, which was connected with his political activity, he does not consider him a lesser bandit, nor is most of the bolsheviks a murderer, we cannot understand that a political prisoner is not some kind of reward, there are different political ties simply in the soviet union, there will be political prisoners as a rule dissidents and these are different things politically connected dissidents well, political prisoners are prisoners, yes, the kremlin brains among us freedom is political hostages, but this is the same again , these are independent journalists, whose business is it they put him in jail, and there was this guy there . do you remember this right-wing nationalist? well, in principle, he could also be identified as a political prisoner. this question
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articles, well, cucumbers can't condemn him for whipping up a lesion, we understand that recognition is faster. yes, that is about the moment that will allow him to reduce the punishment for the extremist article, and this must be understood because, again, i say, political prisoners are of different types. varieties yes, now, well, not now. it was enough for a long time, why did he behave like that? he knew that he was setting himself up, no, he thought that he had a guarantee of security. you understand when you live in a totalitarian state, you absolutely cannot fully understand the policies when they change. red lines are practically impossible. whoever you are, i can tell you this from my life experience. i remember very well how events changed during the maidan in 2014-2014, when yanukovych's regime was under pressure from these circumstances because yanukovych was very afraid of
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becoming vlad from such a semi-authoritarian regime in a multi-party country with the opposition , it began to turn into a totalitarian regime incredibly quickly, they passed these laws before dictatorial systems, when the maidan began, i was just there independently of journalists who criticized the government after about two or three weeks, in the eyes of this government, i was already a bandit , a criminal, i did nothing, i did not call for the overthrow of the regime from the podium of the maidan, i called for negotiations to find a national compromise. but i was met by a person who said that she studied with it is possible for me in one school . that is why they said that there will be a sweep of all those who stood on the stands of the maidan, and i said that i do not violate anything. i do not make extremist
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statements. i make correct political statements. i support european integration. which i have always supported. i suggest that the president met with those who are in favor of the european e-e of italy, well, get ready, and a few days later a mass campaign began on my compromise. i could have predicted it at the moment at the beginning of the maidan. no, i could not until the end , so i understand that it's dangerous water, but i didn't think it could happen so quickly , and after a few days, people already started people, people who are bandits, who started breaking down the door to my apartment. well, it all happened literally in a few weeks, that is, the fear of losing power led to such an indicator regime, it would simply be a criminal regime, it became a bandit
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regime, you understand, and its main suppliers became outspoken bandits like kernesu, somehow, what kind of aunt is there, and do you remember that bandits started coming to kyiv to terrorize the population, and ordinary people, this is without bitterness. and if we remember about the fact that these people, who were in kyiv, did not even think that such a thing could happen to them, that they would go and terrorize the peace in the city, some people you do not understand, then this really happens in russia. practically according to this scenario. he's girkin, he's connected to the game there, they tell him you can criticize the regime, it's a lot of steam, so on, so on, and at some point, i didn't like putin . they said about him that he should hand over power to someone else, but i won't even say anything like that. a tragedy if they depose putin, it was an attempt to respond to beauty putin himself must hand over power to a serious heir well, he must have thought that he was saying absolutely i would
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have said sensible things, produces scabies, drags to himself those who would like to depose putin and the rules of the game are already completely different, they have changed, he did not notice and the people, it is also important , the people who are his curators, the chief intelligence department of the general staff or where else, could not have noticed this once and for all, we do not know what will happen next because it will be exactly yes the story itself is how they will keep yurkin in prison, make him a victim, and then make him a larger-scale opposition political figure because i can. promote at the expense of some criminal cases as navalny and therefore as navalny himself he already says that girkin is a political elm, and then when the politically connected with the head start their political activities in the new
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conditions, then navalny can no longer take his words back and say no, you know you find out that he was not political. i know he was an ordinary provocateur, so they actually create possible numbers for him in the patient, no, he does not convince me of this, just so that we do not fall into the same trap again, because they are all the time these the police are constructing, we are following them and we need to try it not just when it comes to the kgb, believe me, we need to try to get ahead of them somehow, you understand, because with the chekists there is only one way to squeeze them out, it is an eternal race if you do not overtake from a representative of the special service in in a totalitarian country, they have to kill you in any way or deceive you in any way, that is, it is difficult, but it must be done. that is why we must always overlook that there is another possibility of situations not only on the field, at
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the front, they worked like this. here they are, here we are. in fact, the whole main burden of this war is a hybrid one, because the propaganda apparatus is working all the time, different narratives are being launched, people are trying to get used to seeing something all the time. this is how sh- it's just that you have such a government that doesn't want to negotiate with us, you can negotiate with us. we don't they are so bad just now, when the russians have already made so many mistakes, they cannot work here, but they work in the west quite successfully. negotiations with russia, as he says, you understand that we also need to preserve ukraine and that nothing happens to russia, because it is important to us for its influence in the central au. well , it means that there are such people, and this is not the first time such a statement has been made, and i am very interested, because they really think that the russians
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they will help with this in tsentralnaya, that is, what else do they want to know about putin, what did he call it, that is, you know it conditionally speaking, how all the time, uh, all the time, run to take care and no . well, we still have to go to victory, don’t talk , maybe from now on, they can’t do anything this time they won't beat you, because yesterday you were nagging you to return to a man , that's it, maybe this time, i'll come and he'll be sober, maybe if he hits, it means he still loves . well, this is already a very dangerous political logic. i 'm saying that i'm just offering an alternative not to come to visit, but to run ahead so as not to catch up. by the way, not only these americans , whom you just mentioned, but also in germany, they were just as unpleasant.
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no, they are not satisfied with the way our alleged military personnel learned the knowledge they received in germany about the war, the introduction of the war, and yet there was a member of the bundestag from the christian democratic party, merkel, what is his last name, goat goat veter, i honestly do not know how is it correct? however, he said that after all, it is necessary to give weapons to ukraine and it is not possible to criticize in this way, he spoke out against this, but it is still unpleasant that such publications appear, if the war will be a prerequisite for this for a long time, then of course there is a discussion around this the war will be diverse, we just got used to the war in the first place, which was so harsh with huge casualties among the civilian population that everyone says the same things to the western moment, the western media, different people are different , not everything is understood by everyone, russia works quite hard with all these people, convinces someone , someone not convincing, but you know that the rules of journalism are to listen to everyone who wants
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to talk to you and there will be many such publications, we just need to work with western public opinion at an expert level in that number and you need to realize that this is a text that belongs to a western newspaper and that it belongs to a western publication. it is not the truth in the last resort, because in any case it is clear that there are also living people working there. and then it is obvious that you understand again when we talk about a hybrid war about a real war of the great it does not matter what the western media write about the ukrainian offensive , whether it is slow or fast, the results of the offensive will be clear on the battlefield, if there are no results of the offensive on the battlefield, then you can write 155 complimentary articles in new york times well, yes, but it won't happen. and if, on the contrary, ukrainian cities are liberated, then no one will forget, not tomorrow, they won't remember any article, any conditions, the data is bil, and the edition bil is printing a large color map of the liberated territories there, and it's great
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to explain to you why they were liberated. well this deputy is exactly what he is saying, but why is it that the counteroffensive may not bring such results as expected in the west because there are not enough weapons, there are no tauruses , so he says , let us taurus demo long-range missiles. it seems that the results of this offensive are such a thing of an empirical nature, everyone saw this result in their head . the results of the offensive, and besides the fact that in our heads everyone has a reality, the reality of zelensky's possibilities, according to the agreement, everything with putin, it turned out to be completely different, but it
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was reality, and not what he saw the voter with whom he also faced first of all the reality of what the victory will be, we will see it firsthand and this model is what we will achieve and will be a victory, and the same applies to the offensive. i am not talking about the fact that the important task of this offensive is to preserve of our manpower, not only western equipment , but first of all people, because, in principle, the country is without people. putin is trying to achieve this with his war of attrition, it still cannot win any victory. it can, conditionally speaking, protect any territory, but no people will live in this territory, there will just be military cemeteries, and mobilization has not been announced again, the potential is what it is, and i will simply explain , because the language offensive is developing, as you can see , the ukrainian team of ali from the point of view of preserving the lives of ukrainian soldiers and e- e obtaining the results that can be achieved at the moment, history repeats
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itself again, or what is possible for us during the 20s, we are still talking about a conflict that can continue for a long time, we can see many different offensives and different operations, it can also of course, the war ended quickly, but i always say that ukrainians must prepare for the fact that they are living in a conflict and they are their children, and this will grow up in wars, and this may not be the case for many others, and this must also be understood . i am calm about the texts, i am uneasy about the facts . they would like the war to end sooner , more territory to be liberated and for russia to no longer pose any threat to us, but for this it will be necessary to work hard and, by the way, to be convinced of this our western allies can be fed more faithfully with breakfasts related to the victory in the liberation of crimea and so on. some representatives of the ukrainian authorities
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but this is their assumption. this moment with you anna java melnyk and i start with such an enemy attacked kherson oblast again, the occupiers ransacked a residential building in novodmitryvka , a 33-year-old woman was injured, it was reported in the regional of the military administration , the russians also fired mortars at the village of vesele, a 39-year-old resident there was wounded in the back and shoulder, and on the same day the russians hit the belozersk community with mortars, a 33-year-old
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