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[000:00:00;00] from monday to friday at 8:00 p.m. repeat at 12:10 p.m. we return to our site 522 days of the russian large-scale invasion today for how many 17 months the great war with russia has been going on in the meantime we are holding on not decently but simply fantastically the whole world admires us and well, how about us, well, first of all, thanks to the regular ukrainian ukrainian army, the ukrainian armed forces, well, but there are also confirmations of every ukrainian, these armed forces, this army, and actually our business. that is why we collect money for we are collecting ukrainian military for drones, of course, here is the stress tv channel, we just closed the collection, we collected more than a million and bought one and a half million, and they bought super
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drones, now we are collecting more for drones , we already have almost 2 million, 900,000 active in our country, now, uh, this collection is already us we raised a lot of money, we need to add a little money, so we will remind you all the time, of course, you are not angry with us, this is not just some advertisement that allows us to express ourselves as a tv channel, this is money that goes, in particular, in this case, to 23 separate rifle battalion of the armed forces of ukraine, who know exactly how to use these drones, i will remind you that these are attack drones , these are kamikaze drones. that is, this is the case when every hryvnia is the destroyed occupiers , the audience asks andrii, i will ask you a question, you will remember it later and answer it before we announce it to our next guest, you once said on the air, what is putin's behavior called hum and three dots , the viewer iryna chered asks you to remind him , while you remember serhii shapovalov
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, an analyst of the democratic foundation appears in our initiatives and i, ilka kuchereva, will talk about the poll conducted by us: war, peace, victory, future, mr. serhiy, welcome to our broadcast, good afternoon, thank you for the invitation , mr. serhiy, according to this survey, the glass of ukrainians is half full or half empty. what are the feelings or are there feelings that we are there everything has been lost and it is necessary to end this war or vice versa. well, you know, there are different emotional nuances here, let's say this, this glass, give a general perception of the situation in the country, here we are somewhere from august 2022, regularly in our in polls, we ask the question of whether ukrainians believe in victory, and this is the parameter we asked in the poll. nothing changes. 93% of ukrainians are still a stable indicator, we ourselves are surprised that it does not go down by one percent or
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up about 93% believe in the victory of ukraine here and now here in this survey we decided to delve into this question and into various aspects of war fatigue or willingness to go , for example, some compromises of citizens because faith - it's great, but uh, let's say it is reality has many nuances, for example, we asked about fatigue. yes, we would like to measure this phenomenon in some way . i would like this war to end soon at any cost, and the second option. i am ready to agree to the continuation
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of the war if it is necessary for victory, that is, this second option. he speaks of such an awareness, you know, that it is necessary to continue struggle for the sake of victory, and not to compromise the interests of the state like this, and in general, when answering this question, about 30% of our citizens said that they would like the war to end soon at any cost . and about 53% said that they think that it is necessary to continue the struggle for the sake of victory, there are still about 16% undecided, which in principle, on the one hand , worried us a little because these are quite high indicators of such fatigue from the war and readiness , you know, to end the war now at any cost well, at any price, this automatically means concessions, but then when we started asking our citizens what conditions they consider to end the war or what compromises they consider acceptable, we asked about
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the parameters, for example, the end of the war on the condition that the territories that are now are occupied remain remain occupied russia yes or whether in the opinion of the citizens such a concession as ukraine's refusal to join nato is acceptable even among those who said that they would like the war to end in the near future on at any cost, and the majority said that these or territorial concessions or concessions to ukraine's membership in nato are unacceptable to them, therefore, in general, we see that the ukrainians are determined to continue the struggle and that this war ends exclusively on the conditions beneficial to our state, our people, and some similar and emotional things that are so tired, when it will all end, what is it for us? i think i have heard a lot of such personal
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conversations with relatives, acquaintances , etc. then our people are not ready to give in to the interests of the state, which is definitely a good trend, so the glass is more than even half. i would say completely, mr. serhiy, but if you look at the breakdown by region , i am not a little surprised that if you asked ukrainians, for example, you asked whether ukraine will win this war by the end of this year, the lowest percentage of people who believe in this is in the west of ukraine, which would seem to be very far from the war from the front line, there only 18% of farms answered - this is half as much as in the center in the east of ukraine, even in ukraine, and er, it is almost 10% less than even in the south of ukraine , what is the reason that
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people are so far from the front line, so skeptical ? i definitely want it all to end as soon as possible . so that ukraine wins the pozvych and they adjust themselves, well, they start to believe everything and find arguments, for example, in the words of bohdanov . which are next the leadership of the front somehow already analyzes the events there in a more rational way, and they understand that, unfortunately, this is all not what is possible, this is one of the hypotheses here, there are quite interesting ones, you know, quite interesting regional differences on some questions , but i mentioned there about compromises, we have the most people in the south who are ready to cede, for example, ukraine's membership in nato or the european union, that is, it is interesting that throughout the country, regardless of the region
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, there are no territorial concessions at all there there is practically no support there, something around seven, i don’t know, maybe around a percent, although it is also quite a lot, yes, how is it for such an important issue, but precisely in the south , people are ready to give in more, there are ready to give in more on such things as ukraine’s membership in nato. i think that this can be partially explained by the remnants of some pro-russian sentiments there. unfortunately, we have to admit it. and what is more interesting, we did , for example, an age breakdown. in general across the country, but within the framework of the same southern district , what is interesting is that young people are not ready to give up on ukraine's membership in the eu or nato , and this coincides with the trend that we saw
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even before the full-scale creation of polls were conducted there in the 20th and 21st years, and there, in the southern macroregion and in the east , such sentiments were more likely to be spread, but pro-russian sentiments were openly, you know, not widespread, but there was such an option that when answering questions about foreign policy courses, people said that we want the non-aligned status of ukraine very often, you know, this is a latent way of revealing such pro-russian sentiments, and accordingly , the western sentiments there in the south and east were less pronounced than in the central, center and west of our country, although they even prevailed in the south, let’s say so and then. it was so that if you make an age breakdown , then the languages and the bible in the east were as much about european as in the west of our
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country, for example, there in the eye of some you know, pro-russian sentiments, or these non-aligned ones, yes. and this was concentrated mostly in the older category of residents of the northeast, here is exactly the approximate situation, and now that the youth , the youth, are rising, the youth will not leave, they are not ready to give in to the membership of ukraine and the hell yes about although in general it seems that on average it looks like this what the south stands out for in this parameter, mr. sergiu, and here is readiness, and here in a year can you somehow say that moods have changed, depending on where this person is from, from whom she is of the region because we see how, for example, after the shelling of odessa, mr. trukhanov changed his opinion, for example, about what odessa should be like and whether any , for example, russian symbols should remain in odessa, before he said that why bother kateryna, let odessa be open the city is for everyone, for different cultures, and
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here, when the savior and transfiguration cathedral was already shelled, trukhanov even recorded a video in ukrainian. do you notice any change ? how much do these russian rockets change the consciousness of ukrainians in a year, and i think that definitely this process is happening now ah hmm even more and the growth of russophobia, which is always insufficient here , as well as among odessans. i think that recently it is happening the most, the most intensively. obfuscating factor when, well, in principle, yes, when you read an academic study on propaganda and there are different ways of spreading disinformation, why
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it is influential on people, then the information that concerns them personally has the greatest persuasive power for a person. so when there are conversations about some valuable things, there are street renaming arguments why it should be done, but people from their own experience do not feel the importance of arguments why it is necessary to do it, then they will not change their opinion and will continue to think that it was like that kateryna well, let it be stands and when people hear these explosions , they personally feel a threat to their lives , they personally destroy their cities, then this is the factor when this problem breaks into the physical space of a person's life directly.
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at this moment, the beliefs that could have been stable there for many years before that are beginning to change. december 22nd of the survey year. and now these state policy measures for russification, such as changing the names of streets and so on. poplars, in general, they gain the support of the population throughout the country in 2020, when we conducted a similar survey , then the situation looked like this: the western central residents of the western central regions rather supported similar measures, but in the south and east there were a-a let's just say that opinions on this are not entirely clear-cut. people did not understand the possibility of why it is necessary to engage in the same decommunization there, yes, then it was decommunization
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, now it is already a plus and you are russification, now the war in many aspects has leveled the differences of opinion between residents of different regions, it is banal if we just asked the survey from december 32, i remember we asked the question what do you think the collapse of the soviet union. was it a positive or negative event there? well, after comparing the results of the 22nd poll with the 20th. well, it seems like a couple of years ago, so long ago , in the regional section. we saw the diametric opposite of uh-uh in 2020 the center of our country was mostly positively assessed for the disintegration. and in the south and the south, it was more like they were the majority. well, here they yearned for the soviet union, what is it called , they said that it was a negative event, now it has all leveled off, that is, these interpretations of historical events are leveling off. well, on
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in the south, including, this is happening. yes, that is, these are the stamps of historical russian propaganda, political propaganda of any kind. under the sound of rockets, the head of a person adjusts perfectly, so you can already summarize, therefore, there is a certain increase, a deposit increase for a year, of anxiety and fear in the respondents how can it be explained that the indicators have actually increased, and in fact here it may be the result of some short-term, i would say , events. yes, or after some reports that the russians are stoning the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, it is quite possible that some kind of detonation and so on, and when, when, if the survey is conducted at the moment when it is actively discussed in the media, people are becoming
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more anxious. there is which which has a high well if it floats the general general trend for the year that people have increased compared to the first months of the war there is a feeling of some stability if well it does not work for the future there is an optimistic view of the future people understood that the state has withstood and will most likely endure, and people are working on it. but there are such fluctuations, a slight increase in some kind of anxiety , it may be some short-term reaction to these or other things. thank you very much for this conversation and for the fact that we have the opportunity to see such an increase in mood in of ukrainian citizens during, well, actually in recent times, and compare it with how moods and views change and during this invasion and the great war serhii shapovalov in her those funds of the democratic initiative to me what kuchereva
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was with us, let's go for a short break, then come back, let's talk about russia's economy, in particular, let's say how much money the muscovites spent, er, forbes calculated how much money you had from clients to attack odessa with missiles, we'll talk about it in a few minutes , stay with us, there are discounts on nuda-express 10% in pharmacies plantain for you and save pain can become an obstacle dolgit relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility, you can also walk dolgit is the only yellow cream for joint pain and for muscle spasms, dolgit tablets anticonvulsants to relax muscles and threads why am i here i have sensitive teeth they eat ice cream pain cold air pain sweet pain the dentist recommended lakalot sensiti what
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, if everything goes well, the events of the day in two hours , vasyl's big broadcast, winter, a project for the smart and the caring, in the evening, naspresso, gentlemen , let's go back to our air in a little bit let's talk about russia , specifically about the situation there, in particular, economically, in particular. here, i wouldn't start with economics a little bit . by the way, yesterday, by the way, we gave an interview and had the opportunity to talk with, unfortunately, an outstanding contemporary economist, mr. olesha kobiltserovych, a former he seems to be the vice-prime minister. but he was in poland and with the author of the reforms of the 90s, the so-called shock therapy and so on. and he said a very important thing that democracy is a critically important condition for the economy, because without it there is no liberal market and then there are none in fact, there are no reforms and changes and so on, that is, it is impossible, in fact, without democracy, the economy is, of course, always
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temporary exceptions, such as china now . but this is a completely different story. not progression, it’s literally the opposite, but actually about democracy , putin’s quote is also interesting, if i may. putin was asked about what happened there, in other words, what happened to two people who were arrested there, it’s a famous director, it seems, and some political scientist. and here’s what he answered, let's just listen to say briefly i don't even know who is speaking, so i heard your last name for the first time and i don't really understand what they did, what did they do to them, eh, i'm just telling you about my attitude in general to the management of eh
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in ukraine, they are shooting for this. why can't they shoot in ukraine ? this is what the dictator says is real in this country . and what did i want to miss when i was very young ? jeans if you were jeans it all these battles will be such anecdotes, he is like that now it does not sound politically correct well, who wears the adidas company, so any woman if this, well, you understand, well, this is the soviet union, i say with the context so that you understand what it was. that is, this is really the reality of a soviet person you couldn't buy those jeans anywhere, they cost like the average salary of an engineer, 100-120 rubles , that's it, and not speculators. and that's if you had access to these goods because you were some kind of boss, you could buy them once a year somewhere at work not in the store i was surprised, i thought, god, it’s a working day here, but we turned on the tv. my parents are somewhere there on the weekend, sometimes they showed the international pinogram where they showed us that americans live in boxes
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from under refrigerators, and we said, well, it’s still much worse there than us. right now, putin is telling us that someone is being shot in ukraine , e.p. ivanov, we are joined by a candidate of economic sciences, the chief consultant of national sports for periodical research , mr. ivan, what is it like in russia, they finally overtook america, when will they start living off of refrigerators i congratulate ms. lesya, i congratulate mr. andriyya, the tv viewers are carrying boxes, i don’t know, at least everywhere, for a short time, the only thing left was that i froze our phrase there , at least in kyiv, they are introducing the adidas company here , soon the family will fall into this relationship it is actually because they look at those and who else somehow shows any sympathy for the west, who wants to drive you in western cars and all that and they are looked at with scowls because they think that this is hypothetical, maybe people
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who will eventually turn out to be those traitors and by the way, regarding another quote , what you said about balzerovych. and i will remind you of another rather great figure in world history, as far as i am concerned, at least in the modern era, mr. yu . everyone will leave this country simply because the conditions in which people can live are not the same, by the way, this quote and recently, well, just about boris kagarlytskyi, if i'm not mistaken, the sociologist you also just mentioned that he was being made in russia. that is, this in fact, such steps create the basis for the fact that people left russia and left not just as they say, we left with money, and already with your amps, we have repeatedly shown how much money is brought in from the russian economy. in fact, this figure
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was recently made public, that is, if i am not mistaken 253 billion us dollars is a round of investments. i apologize to korshev first of all for the full-scale war, that is, from february 22. so, for our listeners, they explained that 200 billion was the gdp of ukraine in 2021, and 223 men were withdrawn from russia ivan, but despite that, for example, forbes calculated how much russia spent on the attacks on odesa , we can show this uh, this graph of expenses is 237 million. give nightmares to our people, destroy some ancient buildings there, spoil some grain, that is, it seems that they are losing, but still they have to flog more and more, and as
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we can see, at the price, they are definitely worth it, but they have an ideology such that it primarily goes to weapons, that is, they do not think about the social level of their population, they do not think about what is in this country, and if i am not mistaken, 37%. it is not gasified at all, that is, when they say that russia is a powerful gas country, well, 37% do not know what natural gas is, at least it is not connected to gas, that is, they will spend everything on weapons, on propaganda, and on other things . they let's say so this will be what will remain , therefore, definitely russia as 11 economy is still in 2022, there is money there, but definitely somehow they are looking for opportunities to circumvent sanctions unfortunately, it will not be possible to do it quickly because the world , let's put it bluntly, was not ready for such
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a full-scale, essentially, conflict . of the conflict due to the fact that many countries suffer from it, first of all, recently, an african country - they also discussed this, they faced an increase in the price of grain simply because ukraine is dropping out of the game, and ukraine is one of the leading players on this market, that is, very many people follow this and see what to do. so this does not mean that russia will not help with sanctions, but at least think about what it can and should not do, i think definitely, by the way , from the end of the conversation of sports shoes in russia, i read on one of the russian resources that there is a very positive trend
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in them, the production of sports shoes has increased by 65%, and that's it , it's just in peaks for everyone else, it's easy, and everything is so i'm trying to understand what russian brands of sports life kirzachyna are rubber tread yes yes yes promotions on laces if china supplies already almost finished sneakers in russia glue five label made in russia they can say that well we label is ours we attached it although most likely she also had a chinese one there will be, and then they will show the statistics, in fact, there are entire industries that are growing in russia, this is not a secret, but as a rule , they are related to the defense sector, that is , it is possible that these shoes are for the military here, i will not be surprised if it will be, i am really joking , what will happen if there is an odd number - this is a hint at the fact that they understand that not everyone will return with both feet to it and it is not necessary to do barna. well, this is such a black earth, but
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nevertheless it is related to the military sphere of the industry. they are militating, unfortunately, they are enough for it to continue very briefly. putin recently told the russians that they should prepare for the fact that prices will rise, but the russian government is responsible for this. comment on the united states of america, which is interesting because, as a rule, there, the usa is blamed for everything. even if there are no toilets there, it’s all the same in russia , that’s why, in fact, putin likes to shift responsibility to the government, and he, as a person who is supposedly above the system, isn’t what ? everyone understands that he is responsible for the appointment of those ministers what kind of people are they? thank you, ivan, candidate of economic sciences, chief consultant of the national institute of strategic studies, we talked about the russian economy , and now, anna, the noun, tell us about the latest news. ana, yes, we welcome you.
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