[000:00:00;00] look, i'll start my answer with the possibility of her phrase, which doesn't sound very good, but it recently sounded from the gost of our prime minister, who said that i don't know how well he knows geography , but he said that israel borders russia. well , i understand what did he mean, what did he mean, this is of course a series where there are very, very many russian troops and of course it is doing its own thing, so to speak , which may not help israel to a certain extent to ukraine. of course, it should be decided by military politicians and not by the people who live in israel. in relation to the people themselves, there is a very large, very large part of the people who live here and are natives of

ukraine, who are naturally concerned about the fate of ukraine, and many refugees have now arrived who are also, of course, on the side of ukraine. and yes, the requirement is that they understand this war , that they support ukraine and that they want ukraine to win - this is clear and they can do it, that's small , such and such a traditional ethnic village, such and such you know, it's a very uh, traditionally ukrainian folkloric event, and to which many people from ukraine come , who come from ukraine to visit, who sell something there , who collect, who are discussed and collect a lot of money to buy something, there are organizations that are absolutely pro-ukrainian israeli friends of ukraine is an organization that has been helping for many years since 2014. for the first time, it was providing medical

aid to ukrainian soldiers who were wounded on the maidan and then in the east of ukraine and helping. so how does it help, what do you know everyone is starting to get a little tired of this information coming in, and here we are. of course, there are different views on this war, and if it happens in the so-called russian-speaking environment, that is, people who directly know what the soviet union is, what ukraine is, what russia is, their mood is somehow different from the mood of the average zrealtyans in, let's say, the classical , rhythmic-speaking israelis in the regions

of ukraine that are geographically very far from ukraine and russia, although there are very few of them and they really don't care what is happening and how it is happening and with what it will end. although if you follow on the same facebook, if, for example, they post some photos or some videos of these events that are taking place in ukraine, bombings , rocket attacks, then you can follow there well, not from ukraine, and what is a new opinion to say. percentage of pro-russians although they also left a long time ago and already have them, so to speak, they consider themselves to be the wrong people with the ryntians, at least there is no way out of the fact that they are from the former soviet union , this is still the case and they are not completely support ukraine not completely support those people who help ukraine i personally do not come across such people now i try not to talk with them do not engage

in any discussions but there are such people and there is nothing strange about it they came from the former russia from the former soviet union and in they have their own views on all the issues of life that are happening. i want to ask you about the middle east. recently, they say that there is a possible agreement between israel and saudi arabia. if this happens, it will be such an obvious political revolution in the middle east. in the east, representatives of the united states administration are already talking about this, that they are preparing such an agreement, and how realistic do you think it is, and what will israel have to give up in order to normalize relations with saudi arabia, if it happens at all? to live, what will it be, uh, some meetings are taking place, uh , apparently, negotiations are taking place at a high level, uh, at the level of some organizations, at the level of uh,

maybe an enterprise that deals with the economy and economics, who are engaged in er. maybe even er, military weapons are very difficult for me to say. i am not a military man, i am not an expert , not a politician, and what is happening now in saudi arabia. i think that it is still a positive thing, but what does it mean? we will come to terms with this, it is very difficult for me to say now. well, in general, to what extent do you think the scissors are reflected ? such a temporary truce is possible, that it is an internal one at all. i think that it is still a positive attitude that is really needed because, you know, as they say, it is better to have

a peaceful neighbor than an enemy by your side - this is clear to everyone. we have them there are in our country. unfortunately, they are there and there are not so many of them because of the fact that every country with which israel has a common language in one or another issue, e.e., in the issue of society and in the issue of non- tourist business. with the united arab emirates very common e-e taka the road to the tourist business, israelis love to go there, they are in love with this country, they like the good service there , and that's all because there is one more country that you can talk to, that you can go to, and eventually have a drink in a nice coffee shop a cup of coffee and you will be well served there because of that every state with which israel finds a common language in my opinion as an average

citizen of israel - this is a positive thing that is further behind politics behind everything , you know that. and that it's all so simple, it's complicated. i think so, but it's positive . we're on the right path , i mean. well, what do you understand? i feel from some dialogues with my israeli acquaintances there or colleagues, but it is something strange, it is true that you want to go and drink a cup of coffee in abu dhabi, but i will tell you, i once drank a cup of coffee in fevron, in the arab part of havron. i also drank, did you feel there? cozy and we were under the protection of the essene men it was like that well, somehow it was a little comfortable. i even bought there two very beautiful cups, a blue and a yellow one, they are in my possession now, this is my

memory of this, it is an interesting souvenir, yes of course i probably wouldn't go there alone or with my family to drink coffee, but safety you see, this is very important, that's why i don't know. maybe there are some behind-the-scenes conversations, something is not so simple, but wherever our israelis go, because suddenly everything is normal. god grant that it will be so. well, in ukraine, now many people say that ukraine can get from the united states such guarantees that israel has, and i always say that it is of course very good, but without peace with its neighbors, israel could hardly have effective guarantees from the united states, but there is such a problem, yes, we do not have israel, this is a long, long

, long-standing work and hard work in all spheres and in the united states help those who were not presidents, whoever they have, whoever they will have , but we have an agreement, because you know in the congress of america, there is a very large jewish base that supports israel, and there are very large ties between israel in the military industry it is not a secret for anyone i will not reveal anything like that, no secret, and because of that, the relations between israel and the united states of america are absolutely normal. can ukraine receive such help from america as israel keeps from america? the question is very difficult. it cannot be resolved tomorrow, and i think that even until the end of the war, this issue cannot be resolved due to various different circumstances, the fact that america is helping there - everyone knows this. we understand, you must have understood

what ukraine is counting on. does not happen when president volodymyr zelensky spoke in the book, many of the deputies were outraged at the comparison of russia's actions against the ukrainian civilian population from the holocaust, and this indignation was piled up in public, and it seemed to me at the time that many of the israeli politicians simply did not understand what volodymyr zelensky meant when he made such a comparison , he said that they want to destroy or persecute people there precisely because of their ukrainian identity and not because of any political views or something else, and this is as possible to him as a person of jewish origin was also reminded of the holocaust, maybe we are not explaining certain features of the war to israeli politicians and society

in a very clear way. look, if we don't explain very well, then again, it should be explained by the mass media, political analysts of ukraine, not israel, i'm asking about us there is a question because of the fact that the war started by russia against ukraine . it is absolutely uh, it absolutely has the character of genocide. it kills ukrainians living in ukraine, they did not come to ukraine. demand something from russia there. they didn't ban anything. they don't ban people who want to speak in russian, and they didn't ban it. so what was the reason that putin came to ukraine with the war ?

russian clubs yes, please, do you want to speak russian ? yes, please. right now, i am watching when ukrainian television shows these terrible rocket attacks on ukrainian cities, ukrainian villages , in kherson region, in donetsk region, in zaporizhzhia and people start talking about how it all happened and 90% of these people, even those who live in villages, speak russian , so what does this mean that for 32 years of independence, which ukraine will soon celebrate? nobody forbade them to speak russian. because if they forbade then they would have already learned the ukrainian language. i think so. i think so. this war is possible. it is not as they say that the destruction of other nations cannot be called a holocaust because it was this term that was developed in 1946 and it referred

only to destruction . jews who hate me it seems that whatever you call it, i already think that such a word may not necessarily be holocaust, but you can call it something else, but nothing will change from this death. death, murder is murder, and the people who died are no longer i want to return to you the last questions i would like to ask in this conversation of ours. it seems to me that it is also important. you know that we have discussions about the completion of the holodomor museum. the money that was allocated for this museum is now blocked by the decision of the president of ukraine. he would impose a corresponding law there, motivating this by the fact that the money have here for military needs, but from this sector of the budget, this money cannot be transferred to military needs, because it is the money of our

donors, which is precisely on the economic side. to warn that there was a whole series of wars all the time of construction, there were wars and conflicts, and in general, few people understood what israel would look like in the future, well , we know the results, i was the first time with uh, once there were two i met my colleagues with the ukrainian delegation. there were many people there who did not imagine the scale of the holocaust. it is obvious that they lived in soviet times, they were not jews. and when they saw this museum, they saw a real picture of the tragedy , because i am two. you know it shows beautifully. the real picture of the tragedy is quite relaxed when people pass through this hall of dead children. they do not remain indifferent to this anymore. and i really wanted to always be in the hall

of ukrainian children who died of hunger in ukraine, so that people could imagine what it was like it looked like, well, now it is unfortunately postponed, but the question is always what time should such a museum be built, do you know what time it was supposed to be built yesterday, ukraine lost a bit of time, it was needed then when i, too, i have been to the museum several times, museums in ukraine and i also could not to walk there calmly it also hurt as much as when i was in euroshim and walked through this room where the names of the children were called . it also hurt in the museum of the famine because so many people died and died from the artificial famine. for example, this one the law of three ears of corn. this is not why stalin adopted it then, because there was no longer a harvest. by the way, there was a harvest at that time, but they adopted this law so that people would not go to the field and see that the genes of this crop were there. and why did it

die? because half of the people had already been evicted to siberia, they said that they were kurkuls and that they had no right to live here, second people, there was nothing to collect this harvest, and then it turned out that there was a harvest, there was grain, but people died every day. and my mother had three more sisters, two of them died in 32 they died a year and a day later, they were seven and eight years old, so why not there was a famine, there was a famine, and it must be remembered, and it must be told, and the museum must be completed. i don't know how much it is, how full it is, the fact that now they have stopped financing and its construction, i really don't know how legal it is, it's very difficult for me because of the fact that i understand what war is and how much money is needed for war, but again, recently i heard that you allocated a lot of money for some films, 5 million hryvnias or how much, to film

some e-comic series about, well, again about war i don't know what is more important the holodomor is more important to me, of course, the holodomor museum than some kind of comedy to shoot because of the topic. my opinion is that this museum needs to be built and money is needed for it, and i think that there are also patrons and people who can give money for this museum not from the state budget, thank you thank you ms. sedan slavik by the way, for many years you led the association of ukrainians in israel and now you are the leader. now, i am not the leader. now our association has broken up a little . the only thing left is that i, er, work for the american newspaper svoboda. this is my newspaper in which has been working for 26 years, in any case, we also remember your activity . thank you for being on our air and we will continue in

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generally assess the danger of this and that war - it is a very tiring phenomenon and we understand that there are indeed reasons, in particular for people who are not affected by it, but directly but of course in the uk we understand very well we understand that the people of ukraine are brave soldiers and extremely brave people because today they are fighting for our democracy this is not something we can take for granted it is not something we can we will never give up what do you think should to ensure first of all success in this war, military victory, political

efforts , a synthesis of both of these factors, because we are talking about an active military struggle. political efforts are also a war that we have no right to lose. we cannot afford this because it is not about the democracy of ukraine only, but about the democracy of the entire western world. this is what i am saying now, and i am sincerely convinced that right now a lot of power is concentrated both in ukraine and and from the side of your allies, in order to be with ukraine as long as it takes, we also take this issue seriously and we understand that those who are not involved in the conflict

, but we will also fight to the last not a drop of our own blood, and that is why now we believe in you, your people, your president, and we will give you all the support we can. well, this is an important moment as long as it takes. it will be a war of attrition and in principle there have already been such wars in europe and if we remember the turkish invasion of cyprus in 1974 and we understand that almost 50 years have passed.

local conflicts, that is, all we can say is that we will provide you with the support and at the price that will be needed, and as much as it will be needed, because we also see an alternative scenario, we understand what the previous autocracy entails and what will happen if it falls democracy cannot allow this to happen, that is why our solidarity is with you, you gave the example of the war in cyprus, this is an interesting example, but on the other hand, there have been no military actions there for many decades, not peace but a truce has reigned. do you imagine that russia's war with ukraine can also end such i know a truce, we understand that

there is no truce in the occupied territory of cyprus and for republican cyprus only people who are turkish people understand what is really happening who are in the north of cyprus , of course the recognition of the occupied territories by russia cannot be allowed in a civilized democratic world, we will not be able to live with this and we will not live with this, we hope that the war will not last so long because it will be suffering for the people of the eastern part of ukraine as well as the eastern flank of europe. we

must prepare so that we can really provide help to those in need of the people of ukraine, and i say everything that is necessary for ukrainians to provide in order to ensure that not a single centimeter of ukrainian land remains under the occupation of the russians, and that is, we see what we have now on the continent, it is an illegal war of attrition and we are looking at the events that took place in the territories that were under occupation. we saw acts of genocide, and if it was possible we had done something earlier , we would not have such realities now, or would not be afraid of the higher russia's attempts to spread such a hybrid war on the territory of nato, i am asking this because yesterday we already

heard the statement of the prime minister of poland p. morovecki that the units of the wagner group are approaching the borders of his country and if a hybrid war begins on the territory of a nato member country , how do you think the alliance should react by building putin must understand even being a war criminal that the alliance maintains its unity, stability and determination and it has the support of all its member countries if one nato member is attacked if the foot of a russian soldier steps on the soil of a member country of the alliance then russia immediately will be in a state of war with all countries participating in the north atlantic series well, i understand that, but i am asking specifically about a hybrid war when it will not be possible to make direct