[000:00:00;00] at the same time, the secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, oleksiy danilov, reacting to the events in taganrog, said that what i am quoting is nothing more than the absolutely illiterate actions of the operators of russian air defense systems . as a result of the attack , according to the russian side, apparently one drone was destroyed in the air by means of air defense in the territory of the moscow region, and two more were suppressed by means of electronic warfare lost control and fell into the territory of the moscow city building complex. the authorities of the russian capital announced minor damage to the facades of the office towers . according to the russian telegram channel astra, there was no information about the victims of the attack . three russian ministries of digital development of

communications are allegedly located in these buildings. and mass communications of the russian federation, the ministry of economic development and the ministry of industry and trade, and this telegram channel astra writes that eyewitnesses to the attacks found scattered documents of these departments near the site of the explosion and also russian the public reported an explosion in the police building in trubchevsk, bryansk region, according to their data, a drone had apparently hit there , but there is no information about the dead or injured, but president zelenskyi said in his evening address that the war started by russia is beginning to move into its territory, ukraine is becoming stronger war is gradually returning to the territory of russia to its symbolic centers and military bases, and this is an inevitable, natural and absolutely fair process, oleksandr musienko, head of the center

for military legal research, joined the freedom of the morning. i congratulate you, mr. oleksandr. i congratulate you. the president of ukraine called it inevitable with a fair process that the war is gradually returning to the territory of russia. and what scale of this return can you imagine ? well, it is true, and in the end you don’t understand, this is historical justice, because you sow the wind, you will reap . storm and it is clear. that is, the war that was started by putin and russia against ukraine , in the end it may have consequences for them themselves in terms of the scale to date, uh, we see these scales. i think that we we can roughly imagine them, judging by the fact that the drones that are taking place today are the scales that ukraine can afford today in relation to other scales, their potential growth is due to the fact that our missile program will work, we will have the production of missiles, or maybe already yes, we don't

really know whether these ukrainian-made missiles will be able to be used at military facilities on the territory of russia, we did not rule it out either. by the military and political leadership, i think we will get to it, at the moment we see that in the new life we ​​are talking about attacks directly by drones on certain objects that, well, they either consider it appropriate to attack the military or , let's say, there are facts of hits when the russians either shoot down or jam drones with means of radio-electronic warfare and this leads to the fact that they can fall there in other places for the wrong purposes. where were they supposed to fly to? oleksandr well, you are talking about the probable production of ukrainian missiles if we take into account some optimistic scenario. when it can be. well, it is in the context of the inevitable process

of turning the war over to russia, which must be supported by something . yes, what you mention. that is, again , ukrainian missiles when they could probably appear, and on the other hand, do you see the possibility that something like this could happen will happen to the western partners, well, they will be able to be convinced that western weapons are weapons from western long-range missiles, they were used, including for strikes to destroy military facilities on the territory of russia. well, i think that this is a real option after all bringing it to, let's say, the logical end of ukraine's missile program, because i have no reason to believe that today the west is ready to change its point of view regarding the non-striking of western weapons on the territory of russia, here ukraine will comply with these obligations, that is, there are no prospects for today in this regard to our missile program of the day how many would like to hear the answer directly understanding that now there is a war going on and not all information can and should

be disclosed but at the same time i still i think that taking into account the current trends, ukrainian missiles will appear soon, according to certain insider information that i have, but for now it is premature to talk about it, so we will wait. that the british military is training an elite ukrainian brigade of special forces at a closed base that will help ukraine return the crimea by christmas in about this on july 29, i will remind you that the british tabloids and sands express reported on this or how do you feel about this information in general, how likely is it it could also be if so, what kind of training could it be, in the material there is talk about the number of more than 2,000 ukrainian military , what could be the offensive groups

, what can we talk about hypothetically? because the goal of the deoccupation of crimea is one of the priorities , actually, i think it is very good when we actually prepare in advance and prepare our units, that is, in fact, for those actions that will need to be carried out in the future, and this a very good signal in the end about let's say this when it can happen, it can be said that it will happen when our troops are already directly on the approach to crimea , another important topic that ukrainian officials are now raising. well, this topic is of course on the minds of ukrainians. how to prepare for winter. if to talk about preparations, uh well, what do you think russia is preparing for this difficult winter, in what way can you hypothetically imagine that she wants and does she really want to disconnect ukraine from uh

electricity as much as possible now we will return uh oleksandr musienka is joining our broadcast with skype. in the meantime, our dear viewers, you can also ask your questions during the broadcast on the svoboda radio channel . be sure to do this. during the broadcast, we will monitor the chat as much as possible and follow your questions. what are you concerned about , which questions are you worried and are you preparing for the next winter ? what do you think it will be like for ukraine, or will it really be more difficult , probably yes, because i will remind you of the words of mykhailo podolyak , the adviser to the head of the president's office, and that ukraine is entering this winter not with the capacities with which it entered it a year ago, since part of the ukrainian energy infrastructure has already been destroyed and in what way the russian side is trying or more precisely plans to destroy and damage the ukrainian infrastructure and how are you personally preparing, be sure to write in the comments oleksandr musienko returns to our air your advice

to see again, mr. oleksandr, what if we talk about russia's plans for this winter, are the russian side ready for missile strikes, or is the russian side increasing the production of shaheds precisely in order to pelt ukraine with shaheds and affect the energy infrastructure in this way. well, let's say it will be a combined solution. obviously, in the first place, the emphasis is still on the shaheds , because as far as it is clear from the reports that are available, russia is going to start production directly at one of them at the same site sometime before the end of the year in the region of tatarstan directly and it will happen somewhere at the end of this year at the beginning of the next, at least that is what american and british intelligence are talking about in their conclusions, and it is obvious that the emphasis will be to do on this, of course, to date, the potential of the enemy's missile production has not been exhausted by 100%, so there will also be a certain

calculation for this, but it seems to me that the nobles will be priorities, and that the peculiarity of this, let's say, the period of missile attacks may be that ob' targets for strikes may not necessarily be the ukrainian capital or other large cities, but cities and smaller ones, speaking of how, from a military point of view, ukraine can counter those or is there anything to protect the entire ukrainian infrastructure at the moment, is it possible that the help of western partners is needed in this matter, that is, in this context, to protect the energy , and energy protection, to do it for ukraine , it is absolutely true that we need additional means of air defense reinforcement, because today we can say that it is possible to exclude 100% cases of hits e different types of weapons, unfortunately, it is not possible. that is, we are still vulnerable to e-e certain types of enemy weapons

. well, for example, maybe not so much for the same fraudsters. although we are not 100% invulnerable to them, but for example to ballistic iskander s300 missiles and so on. that is, we need more patriot systems in order to protect ourselves. thank you for your analyzes for your time. oleksandr musienko, head of the center for military and legal research, joined the freedom morning and commented on the topic and comment . next, we will continue to talk about the energy security of ukraine while you can subscribe to the radio liberty channel, ask your questions in the chat under this broadcast , but ukrainians may again need a generator and power banks in the coming winter, the president volodymyr zelenskyi of ukraine, in ivano-frankivsk, at a meeting of the congress of local and regional authorities under the president, warned that this winter the russian army will try to repeat massive attacks on the power system and called on people to prepare

for a difficult winter . terror against the ukrainian energy industry, we must be ready in any case for this as ready at the state level at the highest level at the level of every community in every city in every village of ours the head of the office of the president mykhailo podolyak also said that the starting position for ukraine this year will be worse than the previous year, when the energy system was fully balanced, in addition to shelling , the russian army took the zaporizhzhya nuclear plant out of use, which greatly reduced energy generation in the country, according to podolyak, everything that allows survival during wars must be kept at hand until the end of the war , this was a quote according to the ministry of energy during the full-scale war, the russian army

hit energy infrastructure objects 271 times half of the energy system is damaged, the world bank estimated the damage to the ukrainian energy infrastructure at 11 billion dollars , the minister of energy, herman galushchenko, stated this, the destruction by the russian army of the kakhovsky hydroelectric power plant, which before its destruction produced 340 megawatts, now plans to restore the hydroelectric power station , they want to build a new one that is twice as powerful and that corresponds to modern environmental regulations, i would like to remind you that large-scale shelling of the energy system began last year in october, from october 10, 22, the russian army inflicted more than 10 waves of strikes with various types of missiles on the energy facilities of ukraine due to a power deficit, the ministry of energy had to apply blackouts for consumers in some places and in some places there was no light for several tens of hours

. we will talk in more detail about ukrainian prospects in this matter. on the air , igor, i congratulate you. good afternoon , the president is already talking about a difficult winter. tell us how ukraine is preparing for this difficult winter. well, we we prepare for winter every year, only in our country, if anyone in the generation has an autumn winter period. yes, we still have flood periods, so we have to prepare for the flood, and then how does the pause end, where it ended only at the end of june. we started preparing for uh in the autumn-winter period , you just talked about missile strikes, so the company and the ukrhydroenergo station were hit by more than 45 missile strikes , transformers and electrical equipment and

circuits and stations were also damaged. we also suffered great losses more than, in total, more than 22 billion losses in addition to the loss of the kakhov station. well, of course, the most painful blow is the destruction of the kakhov station without last year, we should have started voting on all the consequences of missile strikes , we have a program of what we should do, how we should recover and practically until the end of the year, we have a program that we are following, what needs to be done, in addition to protecting our equipment, restoring our equipment, we are also making our facilities underground , which will be, let's say, more reliable for our equipment at our stations, that's why we are preparing for winter, we understand what will happen, what will be the consequences

, and he will say no, what will be the consequences , what measures will the russian side take? blows that the russians will certainly inflict closer to winter ihor hryhorovych, but we know that the government has decided to rebuild the kakhova hydroelectric power plant and is considering the option of building a power plant almost twice as powerful. can you tell us what developments already exist in this direction, how much such a project might cost and where to get the money, yes, the government made a decision on an experimental project to restore the kakhovskaya station , what do we need to do first of all, first of all , we need to ensure that, well, this is an experimental project, he shares in two stages, the first stage we need to ensure the operation of the dniproges in the zaporizhzhia station of the dniproges station because after the shallowing of the kakhov station there is no support from the lower

facilities, we need to ensure the operation of the dniproges station dniproges and there is 1,500 mw without restrictions and the institute is developing a project. measures that we must take before the autumn and winter period so that the station works without restrictions . yehov of the kakhovsky station of the kakhovsky reservoir so that you can, after deoccupation , as soon as possible block off the temporary hydraulic structure from the kakhovsky reservoir so that you can be ready for a flood so that you can accept this water that will go into the flood and if it is good flood, we can at least reach the mark of 12.5, which is necessary in order to provide water to our three regions. after that, we must build the same temporary

hydraulic structure on the lower side of the station in order to drain the station and drain this construction site, invite experts to see e- the consequences of the destruction collect all the evidence of the detonation of this station and then the second stage is the dismantling of this station and the design of a new station, but for all this the government allocated two years ago and there is this resolution of the experimental the project applies to every restoration of the kakhovsky station, then it will already be developed in the process of this development, the project will actually be a station, we have lost 340 mw , the station is not planned to build a new 520 dash of 580 mw. of course, it should already be a modern station with environmental requirements, these transformers should be e

without oil or with synthetic oil, which dissolves very quickly in water, it will also be necessary to build fish tanks such as are already at modern stations, that is, all this will already be designed , but it will be done after deoccupation the construction period of the station itself will take another 6 years. that is, from today we need seven and a half eight years to restore this potential, which was destroyed on june 6. there will be an occupation, this is also an important moment . and tell me now, for such prospects. and what are the current capacities of electricity production. and are they due to the work of ukrainian hydroelectric power plants, and is it possible to achieve faster growth and at the expense of what rockets

strikes and before the war we had 6,300 mw, we lost 340 mw at kakhovka and we lost so far we still cannot fully restore the dniester station there 320 mw we lost during missile strikes 2,000 mw to date we have already restored 800 mb we plan to restore, say 1400 mw by the end of the year, thank you for explaining such a difficult topic, but it is very important for every ukrainian today . ihor sirotak, the general director of ukrhydroenergo, was a guest on our broadcast . we talked about the situation with capacities and plans for the future after deoccupation, thank you we follow the news together with you, by the way, subscribe to svoboda moya radio in various social networks in order to quickly find out information, and at the moment, the local telegram channels of the city of kryvyi rih report that a rocket hit a residential building in the city, but there is no official information . what is the situation at the moment? there are no

official comments yet. moreover, i will remind you that an alarm was sounded in the kirovohrad and dnipropetrovsk regions. due to the threat of using ballistic weapons, we will monitor the situation. including pro-russian pressure, including in the field of sports, the women's fencing team of ukraine was unable to collect medals at the world championship held in milan, according to the results of the competition, the team took fourth place due to a defeat in south korea, as part of the ukrainian national team, the country was represented by yulia bakasova alina komashchuk olena and olga kharlan and because of the scandal at the competition with the participation of the shabliya kharlans - this championship will be remembered for historical changes in fencing. i will briefly remind you what happened to the ukrainian athlete olga kharlan competed with the fencer from russia anna smirnova, who, although at these competitions, performed under a neutral flag after

the defeat, it means that this smirnova extended her hand for a rotosco-handshake harlan ale and refused to shake her opponent's hand, but instead extended the end of chapli in her direction. and the ukrainian athlete harlan were initially disqualified for violating the rules with a handshake, but then they were reinstated in the competition after the intervention of the president of the international olympic committee. so how the result of the international fencing federation due to this case will change the rules now handshakes after the end of fencing matches are again allowed to replace greeting weapons at a distance about the situation in the sports field well, so they say the sports front the economic front will allow themselves to apply it because it really already looks like that sports is not for politics , we will talk about this further, about how

much the president is in the world of sports, and about the support of ukrainians for olga harlan for her act, we will talk about zhan-boleniuk olimpiyskiy champion, people's deputy of ukraine, servant of the people and the first deputy chairman of the committee on youth and sports, joined our broadcast. i congratulate you. good morning . tell me about the case of harlan and smirnova. will have for world sports. this is definitely a precedent , what is interesting is that olga is actually the first athlete who, after the new version of the decree on changing sports, because i will remind you that before that , ukrainian athletes were the national team teams were not able to compete at competitions where russians or belarusians were present, which in fact looked like the very introduction of our athletes from the qualifying tournaments of the olympic games in paris

, that is, this order was changed on the eve of olga karlan's speech, and this is the first in fact the president, when she came out, demonstrated her civic position and caused such a furor in the world about the fact that she did not shake the hand of the representative of the so-called mental country, but in fact the russians and really, i think that well, first of all, the international fe preparation, she first er if she went to meet olga, but then er, from my point of view, some er third forces er intervened and they decided to er remove her from the competition thereby er, well, they raised the passionate heat even higher and the whole world was simply in shock because

, well, first of all, she won in a fair duel, it is not known why she was removed, but the international fencing federation went for it, and in addition , i also believe that the fact that she and they met in the first duel is a direct provocation from sides of the pro-russian forces within this organization, i will explain why. because the day before ihor reislin is a ukrainian fencer, he was also supposed to perform in the first fight with a neutral representative , a neutral representative, in fact, a russian , but at the time when he was supposed to perform , the ban on such performances was still in effect and he withdrew from the competition for this reason and in addition to the fact that the third factor that also indicates that this was a provocation by the representatives of this federation is that on the eve of this

fight a duel by the executive committee of this organization voted for the fact that they return to the old pre-covid regulations that oblige athletes to shake hands after the match because during the pandemic fencers did not have the need to shake hands after the duel, that is, everything points to the fact that was made into such a story specifically in order to make olga demonstrate er this or that position and in the event that she shook hands , they walked and talked and at the level of the international alpine, for example, you see in duels a hand er hand compression that is, there is respect for the olympic movement for the competition on the part of all representatives, and sports must be outside of politics , that is, they used absolutely this story for their own purposes, that is why olga acted as

absolutely every athlete would act at the moment, taking into account the context in which we are now . that is, it is not it was a coincidence and everything was set up so that it happened and both were disqualified, and at the same time, if olga shook the hand of her opponent, both would have their own consequences, and who is doing all this, you? you say the russian power, how are all these sports committees organized in general? there are many representatives of the russians, they have such an influential position there, if what is happening there behind the scenes. they know about it. i think that considering the level of the person and the level of his influence on this organization, because in fact he is now if he removed himself or he was suspended but nevertheless i am sure that

his influence remains very significant and that the international federation immediately raised its hand after the duel to olga and then reconsidered its decision and decided to disqualify her . it was necessary, but i will say that they. i don't know what the idea was about this provocation . they only know that it played into our hands. olga now also has an olympic license and it was renewed in order to participate in the team tournament, the only thing she missed this is a personal tournament and i consider it a huge loss because olga is one of the leaders of this discipline of this type of weapon and she could really bring

a medal to ukraine at these competitions considering that all the previous ones our girls and boys, they were forced to withdraw from the competition due to the order of the ministry of youth and sports in effect at the time that we do not take part in such competitions, if we talk about lobbying interests, do ukrainian athletes have such lobbying interests, who does it or not is engaged in or how can it be strengthened in your opinion, you know that these battles at the international sports level are now very important. i think they encourage ukrainians to engage in this sports diplomacy within various international organizations. i think that this question was not asked critically and so acutely as at present and now we have all faced the colossal influence of representatives of russia in these organizations, and their

influence was mainly connected only with financing and lobbying for their interests . that is, everyone has long known that russia uses e-e athletes as a gymnasium for all their performances there olympians how do you consider the levers of propaganda and promotion of their pro-russian narratives that they are e-e the strongest that they are the most real and so on and so on and so on if we recall the olympic games in sochi, there were many scandals even they do not hesitate to manipulate doping tests in order to win certain competitions, and then this case showed that it is still on the side of ukraine. the people's deputy of ukraine from the party

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