[000:00:00;00] good evening. we are from ukraine. glory to ukraine. this is a program. my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. war on russia. moscow , taganrog, bryansk region, belgorod. at the negotiating table , including ukraine, putin says that putin does not want to negotiate with him, against this background, the occupiers continue to launch massive missile attacks on the cock of ukraine, odesa, sumy, and

the dnipro, and the northeast of the dnipro region, kharkiv, and on the morning of july 31, the russians attacked kryvyi rih with two ballistic missiles, one hit a residential high-rise building, the other an educational institution. unfortunately, among them, 73 people were injured. they are looking for people . let's see what kind of hell

the russian occupiers created in kryvyi rih. and then they already returned. why is it so strange, lord, all the prices

are about the war in the south of ukraine, about the war in russia , as well as about the pseudo-peace talks that putin wants, or maybe he just declares that he wants we will talk for the next hour before we start our conversation, i am turning to those who are watching us now on youtube, if you are watching us now on youtube please take part in our survey today we are asking you about how long do you think the war in ukraine will last six months a year, three years and an option as long as russia exists, and your option at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote, i want to invite a politician, diplomat , former extraordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the republic of belarus romana to a conversation immortal mr. roman, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast. good evening, mr. sergey. let's start by stating the fact

that president zelensky resorted to . he said that the war started with russia is starting to move to its territory. let's hear what zelensky said. ukraine is becoming stronger gradually . the war is returning to the territory of russia to its symbolic centers and military bases, and this is an inevitable , natural and absolutely fair process. russian tourists can still attack our energy system at critical objects, mr. roman, what scale can this war in russia be , what and what can we do on the territory of the russian federation, and they themselves can also contribute to this for the first time what should be

paid attention to this is glory to god, this psychological barrier has been overcome, and the understanding that war can be fought on the territory of the enemy, and in fact it could and should have been introduced from the very beginning, but it was difficult for many to overcome this psychological barrier and in the world and in europe, in particular in ukraine, in relation to the territory where the war could be fought, i would suggest something that today should be talked about, thought about and planned - this is the opening of the second, third - fourth fronts in relation to the aggressor, and russia is the same aggressor in relation to georgia today and there are completed territorial claims with japan

and there is an unfinished problem in the relations between north and south korea . well, etc. i'm not talking about finland, in which almost 6% was cut off at one time and this process is not legally complete. the fact is that if the first barrier were to be cleared and it's very good that it was announced, it was said, it means that there is preparation for this, talks about this are being conducted in negotiations, and so on. and i think that we are very close now to the point where the conversation is about the range of strikes with certain complexes of 500,800,000 m. it will cease to exist as a problem at all. because it is now from my point of view of sight at such a final stage when everything is still going on

thoughts about the fact that a may give 500 and may not give 800 and so on, because as we understand it, it is wonderful. well, the situation that exists today, and the enemy must be destroyed not only from military facilities, but also, first of all, from military-industrial facilities which are beginning to build up their potential, and new ones are being built, and therefore this means that this front line will disappear even with the release of more uav missiles, and the front space will work. actually, my view of the situation is that it should be operated with the concept of the front space as such a front space and this means that ukraine must have the potential to strike industrial facilities that are being built today in the area of ​​600-800 km from the border of russia and ukraine, because as

you understand, they will build up the potential to increase the production of weapons , ammunition, and so on. this is the first thing that is necessary to date, to serve from the point of dialogue inside the country and outside, and to adopt the necessary regulatory acts and so on, the second thing is the partners with whom we need to enter into a conversation about accelerating the provision of assistance in part which has gone beyond the limits of fighting on the territory of ukraine, and actually here the lion's share of the work has to be done , or there is an increase in the fighting potential, let's say, on the territory of ukraine, an increase in the supply of the necessary equipment, and actually from my point of view, this is slowing down the answer to the question when to start training

on f16 and which group should prepare in which countries how many planes should it be it should be a component of the actual answer to the question and including long-range aviation that could strike at the enemy, including industrial ones objects in the decision-making centers, as they call them there. well, there is a lot, a lot that needs to be done. in this regard, the third thing that is extremely necessary to pay attention to is sabotage work, which will increase because what is happening today with the maneuvers and the movement of the wagner dude there the army of gazprom and other private armies, it says that the cream and the führer will resort to even more active actions in this regard, and not only in ukraine, because it is not a coincidence that when

russia, africa, and nigeria took place the coup where the russian flags were raised, it is obvious that it was rigged, it is obvious that in this plan a fourth thing is also necessary, which is related to the understanding by the partners of the provision of infrastructure on the territory of ukraine, transport infrastructure , energy communication infrastructure, and so on, because here we can agree with that what the president says that the winter will be very difficult . in this regard, it is necessary to introduce work related to the protection of infrastructure. and this means the topic of anti-missile versus space security. it must be anti-aircraft. should be very well worked out panoramas, we saw that night against sunday, three drones attacked the moscow city business center in the russian capital, then we saw what happened in the bryansk region, what

happened in the rostov region , how can and can these point strikes demoralize russians? the war we are talking about, what are we, what are we seeing with our own eyes , how much will it be the same in the eyes of the russians , how much will they perceive it as a defeat for putin if missiles or drones fall on their heads? first of all, how do you cemented the attention, these things should not be underestimated, because the hysteria of russia's greatness and its mission in russia itself has been so twisted by the media. they lied so much that any step and any stumbling of russia itself is perceived internally as a disaster. and actually, starting with performance things, remember when we met with such

things as the larking of leaflets by a candidate of such and such in the elections in russia for the president or the state duma and military strikes, all this is of great importance and this applies not only to attacks on russia itself as the object of the attack, this applies to informational attacks , this applies to psychological attacks, this applies to attacks on allies, including informational attacks , including psychological attacks, and so on . work in international organizations is very important here, and so on . because all this makes up what is called war, it was long ago, and it went beyond the scope of waging war only on the battlefield, only on the front line, it took on a general character, and as we can see, in the current situation, filler moskovsky is now worried

only about one thing, so that the flames of war arise as much as possible, whether in africa or in other er points of europe, because i say once again that the wagner factor in belarus is not to be underestimated , it is quite a serious influence, and it is quite serious, let's say so. vector which they they are trying to work out what is hidden today behind the so-called exercises, what, well, for a person in the know well, is it possible to prepare large-scale exercises in two weeks, that is, other things are hidden behind this, this is intelligence work - this is sabotage work, this is the collection of relevant information, this is, let's say, the study of the situation that's why all this has a very important thing and i will once again focus on such attacks . especially if they are accurate, that they are thought out , if they have a deep meaning and are logical , they have a colossal demoralizing

effect on the enemy. today it became known that the ministry of defense of poland decided the decision to deploy the heimers brigade 140 km from grodno, such actions by poland are aimed at protecting against possible provocations by the wagners on the part of belarus. the direction of the so-called suwal corridor, in connection with which poland the authorities in poland are afraid of possible provocations, let's hear what the prime minister of poland matoo schmarowecki said about it on july 29, now the situation is becoming even more dangerous; moreover, we have information that more than 100 wagner mercenaries are moving in the direction of the suval isthmus not far from urban belarus in belarus, why are they doing this of course this is a step in the direction

of further hybrid attacks on polish territory, most likely they will disguise themselves as belarusian border guards and help illegal migrants to get to polish territory destabilize poland polish with destabilization but probably they will also try to enter the territory of poland under the guise of illegal migrants they will try to get to the territory of poland and this will create additional threats for mr. romane the withdrawal of the wagners to the nato country well, at least there is an entry into the territory nato countries will mean that putin wants to transfer the conditional conditional negotiations or future negotiations regarding the future of the world to the level russia and nato

, i.e. he is deliberately going to this escalation so that zelenskyi or the ukrainian delegation does not sit at the negotiating table. and so that nato representatives sit on the other side of the table, well, that is, some kind of lightning operation there, a passage through this suval crossing and, let’s say, not an admission of a bigger war, not allowing a bigger escalation , just stopping at provocations , does he have such a goal in mind. the first thing is what i am calling for. the company was divided into three platoons and the company that now works mainly on those training grounds that were used during the so-called exercises , the west, where two two two operations were carried out, this is an attack on the western countries with use in

the direction of the sovalsky corridor and in ukraine to the south a-a these plans have not been shared anywhere. they are lying on the table and we must understand very well that what we are witnessing is now only a continuation of this work of working out the components and at the first opportunity at the first opportunity that arises and such operations will be to be realized, the problem here is that when we talk about fuhrer moskovsky about russia, we must understand that for fuhrer putin, war is a continuation of life, it is a continuation of his policy, hence any aggressive actions , whether they will be carried out in africa or in asia, or whether they will be carried out in europe in relation to neighbors or conducting sabotage operations by militants and

wagner's private army - in principle, this is not so important, it is important that it will not be necessary to weigh lightly and the possibility of launching sabotage reconnaissance strikes on ukraine from the north well, it is obvious that the 7,000 troops of wagner's private army are not the number that will be engaged in training the russians, er, the belarusian army, it is necessary to understand what to teach such things, and the conscript army , well, there is no sensor, today in belarus there are only 16,000 and the cadre army of special operations forces of the special forces and so on . well, how many trainers are needed in order to train sixteen thousand in belarus today, according to the intelligence data of great britain and the united states of america

, somewhere within the range of seven thousand, well, that’s not even true it is difficult to count when to count the number of tents. divide them into commander's and soldiers' tents in the osipovichi area. from here it is obvious that the words a-a night words that were spoken by prigozhin addressed to the soldiers of wagner's private army about what we will start here , can we be in africa or somewhere else? it says that they relate to the performance of the task that will be reported to these units, and i emphasize this once again , from the center of minsk to the center of vilnius, 123 km from minsk and yosypovych to grono, somewhere in the area of ​​230 km. lutsk itself must understand what this is. i now mean a direct course . all these things can be overcome very quickly. in the current conditions, such combat units of a mobile nature of up to 1,000 e-e in

a unit can carry out very serious operations with the experience they have today in the battles in ukraine, therefore, in no case should it be taken lightly, and the prime minister of poland is absolutely right. the territory of belarus from the forested a-a area, all this indicates that things are being prepared there or will they infiltrate there in the form of migrants well , that has already happened. latvia is obviously on the agenda. i am not talking about the fact that ukraine in this situation must be very careful and seriously control its northern border

, including the need to remember the lessons of history when an aggressor appears from the territory of others states, as it was at one time, against france from the territory of belgium of nazi germany, this should also be remembered, and the territory of the so-called western polissia , it was very, very impressive from the point of view of the activities of, first of all , subversive groups. according to your calculations, putin in this situation is clear that the war is his life, the continuation of life and the continuation of managing russia, but still he hopes that the north atlantic alliance will not react or will not react properly . well, for example, since the americans do not react to that that the american drones either go astray or harm the russian army in

syria that in this way well, it seems that they will not dare to pull the trigger and shoot in the direction of the russian federation, mr. sergey, you see if the coup in nigeria was successful, and this state is one of the biggest allies uh, on the territory of central africa as a whole, and he also succeeded at the moment when he passed uh himself, well, you understand how the horns of this evil, which is called the putin filler, grow, firstly, and secondly, if you look at the western world today the press, where separate articles appear, and on this i emphasize separate articles about the effectiveness of the fifth article of the treaty on the formation of nato . we must be quite careful, let's say , in understanding the fact that, well, you understand

perfectly well, her head is not built on some logical conclusions, that is, for him, war is the essence of his existence, so he can fight anywhere with anyone, what difference does it make, because today , if we talk about combat capability, the ukrainian army is the most combat capable in the world today, in principle, and it has quite serious equipment weapons technology, and now remember the question, let's move on to putin's logic, which means that he can start a war with the same enemy, yes, with greater potential , but uh, we also have to understand that there is a fear of nuclear weapons, the use of which they talk about all the time they speak from the kremlin of their great matyukalniks, from here it is obvious that to think with our approaches, with our

conceptual views on the order in the world , on the relationship between good and evil. well, in principle, i would not recommend to those who analyze that situation. psychopaths like putin, they have their own logic, their own way of thinking, if you add to this the fact that for him there is no measure of such and such a value as human life, then the conclusion is absolutely clear right away, he can do anything and when i now look at the rights to this the dictator of belarus, who every time bends such phrases after meeting with putin that they are not, well, they have a healthy head . they would never be able to fit in, this all the more confirms my opinion that they can go to very serious escalations, including with countries

nato, especially with those countries with which they are neighbors, just a few days ago, the summit of panormans russia, africa, er, 17 leaders of er, african countries from the 504th appeared at this summit, then there were premiers there and this premiers - the ministers are a little lower, but the african countries, the leaders of the african countries made it clear to putin that they do not need this free gift in the form of 35,000 tons of grain for each country . at the summit, he announced this, and against this background, putin told journalists that one of the points of the peace initiative of the african countries, which they announced in st. petersburg on a ceasefire, cannot be implemented in the conditions of the offensive

of the armed forces of ukraine. let's hear what putin said . things that are difficult to implement or it is not realizable, for example, there are 11 points of the ceasefire. well, the ukrainian army is coming. and no, in the pharmacy, it is said that they are implementing a large-scale strategic introduction to us. what can we do with the ceasefire? fire when she smopaet and another short synchronicity about the grain deal because it is also indicative of what the kremlin grandfather said, let 's say honestly means we will get more taxes. and if we get more taxes, we will share part of our income with poorer countries and stand

a certain amount of salespeople for free. well , many, many such things are called nonsense , what he says, but since this being is the one a being on which the future of ukraine and the future of the world depends, we have to talk about it, so the africans came to him, he wanted to buy them and say i will give you free food, i teach the russian language above in africa, well, that is, he has an absolutely typical soviet principle of attitude towards african countries, the africans told us we do not need what you promise us, just guarantee the implementation of the grain agreement the pope appealed to the russian federation to restore the grain agreement as far as the voices

of africa and the voice of the pope can influence putin now, or whether anyone can influence him, first of all such things. they reach and penetrate into the heart and head. and moral people we are dealing with an immoral psychopath. and this is very clearly visible from the non-verbal fragments of communication that we can see now in his communication with journalists with leaders of african states , politicians, presidents, government officials, and here it is important to understand such a thing. at the previous summit in 2019, there were six thousand non-delegates or participants. at the current one, four thousand

are a little more than four thousand, and these are politicians mps, government officials, analysts, scientists and so on, including representatives of the church. it is necessary to clearly understand that creams and furies have been taking over africa for a long, long time, if today the sudanese of the central african republic are small, there are even parishes of the russian orthodox church and they are only increasing, then his statements about the teaching of the russian language, this is already a fact, because such classes and such schools already exist today in african countries, and to add to this the presence in 15 countries of

subdivisions or serious components of private armies, moreover, which protect presidents, prime ministers, government officials, parliaments, there are certain institutions , you need to understand how much russia today is a parasite on the african continent. moreover, under the guise of joint joint ventures, the actual coup of nigeria only increases the territory of russia's influence, so it must be understood that the part of the african leaders who came and made it clear to the moscow führer that africa will not float