[000:00:00;00] they fought under artemovsky, they know where the military equipment in lithuania came from, and the president of lithuania, gytanas, declared during the siege that the presence of russian mercenaries pkwagneru to belarus is a serious threat, so lithuania took additional measures and in case of provocations, the armed forces of the country can come to the aid of the border guard the activities of the wagnerites on the territory of belarus are monitored, and the ukrainian intelligence there say that the grouping of the wagner pvk in belarus does not have sufficient forces and means to establish a real threat to poland or of other nato and eu countries, andrii yusuv, a representative of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, announced the only news on the air of the telethon. i would like to remind you that after an unsuccessful appeal in russia, the wagnerites moved to belarus. yes, on july 28 , the 13th column from the wagner air force arrived in belarus . it consisted of at that time, the belarusian district also wrote 80 cars. and according to the ukrainian state border service

, there are now a little more than 5,000 mercenaries with pvc catio on the territory of belarus. to sum it up briefly, european countries are seeing a storm from the wagnerites on the territory of belarus are preparing for possible provocations against ukraine, there are no signs that the wagnerites in belarus have heavy weapons necessary for a serious attack on ukraine or poland , which we mentioned today, this was discussed in one of the july reports at the institute for the study of war thank you we will stay with you further on the air , we will talk about this topic in detail. thank you for the analysis of this information, all around this topic , and we will really discuss it. you can, dear viewers, write your thoughts in the comments. i can already see that there are comments about the fact that it cannot be that the wagnerites , well, they still dared to attack or provoke nato countries. you can write your opinion about

this in the comments. analyst, deputy director of the julia ushan miroszewski dialogue center from poland, joined our morning broadcast. i congratulate you. good afternoon . what are your assessments of the threat to the study of wagnerians in belarus? and this whole story revolves around the borders between belarus and in poland, they are really preparing to commit provocations or to attack the country. is this intimidation? it seems to me that intimidation is psychological pressure, and what is the purpose of destabilizing the situation in poland and destabilizing the political situation? we have elections two and a half months later and this topic of the wagner rifts has already become the subject of the election campaign, that is, various statements

from the opposition government, plus all the experts, as well as well, i am really constantly analyzing this military situation, as well as the ukrainian foreign intelligence says that those forces are absolutely not enough to dare to carry out an act of aggression against lexical poland. what seems most likely to me personally is that some part of them will be near the city , nothing, the city, as they say now, in belarus . lukashenko always invites refugees to belarus, and then he could cross the border . they try to welcome them across the polish border so that they can get to the eu, so that these gospels can somehow help them in

in those attempts to cross the border, they should be trained, uh, apparently, as well as small border provocations, and the purpose of this will be the implementation of such an internal situation in poland somewhere, only the enrollment of the son instead, for now this topic, i would say, is present in the media space in poland, of course, in political statements instead, today, i got acquainted with the latest public opinion survey , and there, almost 40% of poles say that there is no military threat in poland, half say that it is, but most of them do not care so respectable yes not very tall so in general the poles are quite calm before this we are now in the heat of the vacation season there is a vacation there in this yes in this dog corridor there are also a lot of tourist places of guests i myself have been there two

weeks ago. in general, i would say that the situation is calm at the moment. and if we talk about the reasons why it is so calm, because the wagnerites take it seriously, i don't know about lukashenka's statements or because they are confident in their armed forces and that poland is nato member and nato can to protect in case of what this factor that poroshenko nato uh-uh that if there was an attempt uh-uh to cross the border it would be perceived as aggression and this is according to international law absolutely because because because mercenaries are somehow managed by another country is essentially a part of the armed forces of this country, that is, this factor that nato will defend is really present and it has the influence of the headlights, too , what do you also understand, the polish expert , journalists, well, that's all, and quite calmly

, these poles also tell about it it is heard plus on not even so if someone is not well versed in political affairs but understands that russia committed a not so huge crime against ukraine, but this is stupidity, because it started a war and i myself do not know how to end this war so as not to lose in this situation when almost all the armed forces of the federation of the russian federation are in ukraine occupying the ukrainian territories and cannot at this time stand against the resistance of the ukrainian armed forces to how it makes sense to start the second front and against a much stronger of the enemy and if we talk about the reaction of nato in which it is likely to be in such a situation er how can you calculate it and er or what is there hope for again well

because in ukraine er there is enough er there are such skeptics who treat this as if, even if there is an attack, god forbid, on poland, then nato, they say, will not react in any way except concern, you know, concern is already such a meme for ukrainians, it's just me, i understand, i know ukraine very well and it was at this moment that i even came to kyiv, er, that's how i feel this, this atmosphere, but if nato did not react to this, it would be the end of nato , this is absolutely true, because it would be destroyed . trust, trust in the fact that in a situation of armed aggression . e-e polish border this would be an act of addresses and if not, i would not have reacted very much for the sake of renault , well, this means that trust in the usa and in the system of the union e-e is destroyed and even then the e-e countries of central europe would begin e-e began to be not so

lucky with the baltic countries, most likely and the southern neighbors of poland would begin to count on the need to defend themselves against the enemy, and it is unlikely that this is why the american administration, so we can also add that now, of course, all nato countries are watching this what is happening there in belarus in those camps of all the armed forces, the police, even the sniper, as was the case in the previous story, they moved uh , not far from the belarusian border , so uh, well, we just think that this this so -called prevention of prevention will work and and this

lukashenka alone will be strong, and putin in particular should not be provoked , you should not be so rude, because in the worst case scenario, the situation could get out of their control . i also want to ask you about the relations between ukraine and poland. the fact that ukraine is allegedly not at a sufficient price for the aid provided by poland, i will remind you that this was the statement of the state secretary of poland to not cover the match or a, to which zelenskyi's office has already reacted and called these accusations baseless as far as it is this is a serious dispute, to be honest. from a political point of view, it is much more important to me than this plot is two on the river, because there is a really real conflict of interests and a plus , well, to be honest, an insult. her diplomat is also friendly towards poland, now she accuses poland

of having different interests here than ukraine, i can now talk about it in treason. and he is already in this term of treason , well, that's it. atmosphere, and the situation here is such that i perfectly understand that ukraine must exploit its grain, its grain, so that it is a question of survival for ukraine, anton has not yet blocked this grain, poland does not want it to get to the internal level, as if it is simply destroying a polish agrarian woman in particular, in the feed of poland, and before the election, not a single government, and here the lithuanian government also has the support of the opposition, does not agree to allow an unlimited amount of ukrainian grain to poland, and i hope that this issue will be settled, and will be found, will be found as some kind of compromise solution and i will acidify it once again poland

does not block exports to third countries to africa and to asia as i recently said in my thick e-e and tweets the prime minister flashed but i don't want this grain it just fell on the plane of internal energy, it stabilized the internal situation in poland, because it is also threatening. prospects will harm the development and polish-ukrainian relations are a challenge for the countries. thank you for joining and explaining and commenting on these difficult issues . lukasz, a lady doctor of history, political analyst, deputy director of the yulia shamilszewski dialogue center from poland, joined our morning broadcast and we also talked about the military studying in belarus well, and about the relations between poland and ukraine, i will remind you that

tonight the russian troops attacked kharkiv with a drone in the form of rockets, it is already known that there were five of them. president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi after the report of the minister of internal affairs ihor klymenko according to the head of the kharkiv regional military administration hospitalized a 63-year-old security guard of the sports complex where three mines hit yevhen ivanov deputy chief of kharkiv vado solemnly welcome to our broadcast congratulations thank you for joining please tell our viewers p yevgeny, what are the consequences of the attack on kharkiv, what is already known about the wounded, are there any dead, and what is currently happening at the scene of the incident? congratulations, yes, yesterday, today already, i apologize around 0:05 at night attack by martyrs, 5-7 fraud heads, the number is still being established . we

have destruction in the saltiv district of the city. there is a hospital, a sixty-year-old guard of this institution. it was in the center of the city that part of the drones were shot down by air defense forces beforehand. i also want to add that during the whole day yesterday, we also had air raids along the border forces on midnight and shelling by guided aerial bombs of a village in the izyum district, a rocket of 300, about 4 p.m. we had an urban-type village of shevchenkiv in the kupyan district, and also our soldiers successfully repelled the attack in the direction of berestovo - this is the kupyan direction, eh, as well as daily, we have a full spectrum of aggression on the part of the enemy , in the case of a foreign attempt on us, i.e., shelling of almost all types, taking into account mortar

air-guided missiles, it is 300, even generously , with all types of weapons , kharkiv region is shelled. and tell me, for example, were there in were people in the dormitories at the moment, did they have time to hide, what was the situation with the shelter of people at that moment, there was no dormitory, there were just shots fired at us regarding the brothers, accordingly , they were checked, a number of measures were carried out during the last month, regarding the checking of the condition and the fact that they were open and at the moment, well, the situation is clear, controlled shelters are available to all residents, which should be available where possible , new shelters are being arranged, and we are more concerned with educational institutions

with a view to the possibility of resuming the educational process, yevgeny, i understand that shahedi is something. well, it is relatively new for kharkiv . and now, what trends do you notice, how the russian forces are behaving, or are they intensifying the strikes on the city? they strengthened the city in particular, there were really fraudsters of such a number, this is the first time before this that we have had it systematically, this is a rocket, this is 300, mostly at the moment, there was such a massive attack at one moment, really by the shaheds. well, thank god and the armed forces of ukraine, some of them were air defense, and we will try to increase this indicator, really, and did all of them work ? thank you yevhenii ivanov, the deputy head of kharkiv jsc joined our broadcast. we will talk about a new format, presumably for

the settlement of the russian-ukrainian war , the united states of america has already confirmed its participation in the peace summit on ways to end the war in ukraine, which will take place in saudi arabia, the spokesman of the us state department , matthew miller, said this at a briefing. at the moment, it is not known who exactly will represent washington, but according to the spokesman, it will be known within a week. weekend, and the likely location is the city of jeddah. officially, a number of countries have already confirmed their participation, while unofficially it is known about the visit of diplomats from countries that still maintain neutrality. at the same time, russia was not invited to the summit. and there is also a message about this, and this is an important detail. more details about future ones will be told by the european correspondent of radio

svoboda, my colleague zoryana stepanenko. another second high-level meeting is devoted to ukrainian peace initiatives and their implementation. the first one and a half months ago gathered political and security advisers here on the territory of the european union. and now their meeting place is saudi arabia, whose plans to receive guests for these negotiations were revealed by the publication devustrii magazine and the head of the office of the ukrainian president, andriy yarmak, confirmed that the location is somewhat telling, considering the fact that the arab world was mostly neutral after the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine. joint participation in the opec-plus group , which unites oil exporters in order to control production quotas and which is often compared to the cartel however, conducting such

negotiations is an investment in authority the crown prince of saudi arabia emphasized on the eve of the arab media algeria officially at the meeting little more is known thanks to the western snakes their sources and the journal or i the publication came out after the visit to saudi arabia by jake sullivan , the national security adviser of the us president who participated in the previous similar meeting reports that the next one will take place this weekend and what was invited from three dozen countries representing different continents and views on the war in ukraine, in addition to its western partners were invited again based on reports of changes to nezia, egypt, mexico, chile, zambia, russia, not in this kremlin promised to monitor this meeting, who exactly will join it, until the intrigue, their participation until, as already mentioned, the publications i mentioned were confirmed by the representatives of great britain , poland, the european union, the south african republic, the official this is also the case from the czech republic, organizing such

events with the help of partners. the world's support for its peace plan, which includes, in particular, the withdrawal of russian troops from the entire territory of the tribe guilty of aggression , the payment of reparations to russia and the provision of security guarantees for ukraine . support mechanisms that will help to win now and prevent aggression in the future. as for the peaceful meeting, they will seek optimal formulation of the plan and ways of its implementation ukrainian and western officials hope that at the end of the year these efforts will end with a peace summit where world leaders will sign the general principles of ending the war from brussels . well, i will remind you once again that the usa has confirmed its participation in this format and hmmm, the details are why

exactly saudi arabia, what are the interests of that country, and here is also an interesting point why emphasized immediately before this dialogue before this meeting 30 countries did not include russia, well ukrainian experts call it a good sign of course ukraine is invited and we will analyze all this together with our next guest this is mykola davydyuk, a ukrainian political scientist i welcome mykola to our broadcast a-a mykolaich, can you hear our good day broadcast over there? tell me, you already said that this is an unexpected format . were invited and it was immediately emphasized that russia was not

invited . to see russia, although it looks enough. it is strange that this activity somehow even confirms putin's help in the election of the labrador lops himself. and then the passage of migrants into the territory of the united states. and now i think that why did they not expect it? let's put it this way, saudi arabia is definitely not one of these countries e- is world leaders on whose sites such things are held friends, she is not a neighbor third well, damn our links with saudi arabia oligarch putin's purse well , who tried to impose saudi arabia as a negotiator even earlier so, what, let's say, in saudi arabia also tried to do there filtering in the center for the exchange of prisoners of war, well, the only thing that is a plus for saudi arabia is that they promised to help attract china, which is actually very important for us, and the second thing, which is also very important

, is that pansullivan will still be there, and that's just still gives hope for the progressiveness and objectivity of such a meeting because, after all, the first meeting that was held in copenhagen was strong enough. it seems to me that it was even a turning point because they were able to break this trend of the global rooster, who at least little by little is beginning to understand the situation and a little bit stops being so subjective pro-russian and a little bit opens my arms to objectivity and the truth about in your opinion, what will be the most positive result for ukraine as a result of this two-day meeting of such unexpected countries and which, if it is possible to gather there in one circle, could at least agree

to look at more issues of the court at the un level on the basis of the un so that they vote, promise us that they will help to make a tribunal, they could agree on the strengthening of european sanctions packages and precisely the creation of a global platform for the implementation of sanctions, because just sit down and agree to say that we are not sorry for 20% of ukrainian territories, we are ready to give them to putin only so that the war ends and our inflation stabilizes again. well, then it 's a stupid thing to do in ukraine. it definitely won't be implemented. if they are offered to rate the russian federation, well, then ukraine will welcome it. but if these are stories when everyone will simply put pressure on ukraine together, then i do not believe that even those inspectors who will be there and support these things will be able to

to implement and legalize it in ukraine, because all this must be implemented by the ukrainian parliament and supported by the ukrainian population, because no secret agreements there will definitely not come this time . what did the previous president do, so nothing is reported, where people are trained, and if you just freeze, we saw the article of the head of the prisons in in berlin, the russian head of carnegie, well, the american think tank, so that later it prepares for the great war , but just such meetings are designed to stop this great war, but not to freeze it for him to attack again in two years, but not ukraine, but, for example , the baltic countries or poland, but here it is necessary to act deliberately, i will tell you next: what should not be the yalta meeting, it should be tehran, it is very important to understand that if we draw an analogy, it is it's not me, it should be tehran who should decide how to, let's say, work off the enemy and make the world come to peace. well, let me remind you that everyone who did a good job in tehran received their

bonus. those who will come all over ukraine to do everything possible to get their bonus from russia mykola, what does that mean, why is this meeting there planned to be held at the level of advisors? i understand that this is probably the perception of this position or this title there in the usa and in ukraine it is quite different. and why, for example, is it not the minister of foreign affairs , that is, what kind of countries will i represent ? all other people who have access to the first, second or third person in their country can make some decision, and the beautiful czech republic wrote about it so that we determine the status

of who should go ? ministers of foreign affairs so that we do not get a black cat in the bag because if we now start playing the saudi game and they like such things there, let's also remember what cases muhammad bim salman is famous for and where what is his real influence and not contrived on global geopolitics and how he plays along with putin and how he when the state needs to lower the price of a car in another raise it maybe that's why we don't need to play advisers here, we need official officials who are responsible for what they say, who are responsible for ensuring that they e- they are ready to carry it later in real actions, because advisors are very conditional. i am saying that of all the advisors who will be there, whether they can be at that meeting or whether it is simply the interests of russia. although russia

was not invited to participate, well, i think that a lot of pro-russian countries, our task will be to make the openly pro-russian ones neutral, and to make the neutral ones pro-ukrainian . this is our goal - this is our task. i am more than sure that it is possible. unfortunately, we need to restore contact mykola davydyuk bohdan, a ukrainian political scientist, was in touch with us and we talked about the new format saudi arabia is gathering around the ukrainian issue - 30 countries can also participate there, representatives of china and this is what we are discussing and mykola davydyuk is returning to the air and summing up again there are likely expectations from this globally, we know that there is a peace plan from zelenskyi on the ukrainian side, and one of the key points is that russia should withdraw its troops to liberate all ukrainian territories up to the borders of 1991. here is the ukrainian peace

plan, in your opinion, it is a- or maybe we should take this one as the center, and can all these countries agree that this is the only possible plan, so to speak, which should be followed? i will tell you that if the center was not ukraine, but any of the countries that came, they would have a similar plan they would use it as a basis, simply call it the saudi plan, the copenhagen plan, the blancmange. i don’t know flies to the gas tank or anyone else, that is, when everyone thought about himself, he would take this plan as a basis . well, but now our task is to convince them that this plan should be mainly because no one would want fascists to be on their territory , killing children, raping pensioners, and so on, they called it liberation or whatever putin likes, so our task is to convince them publicly, media, and non-publicly it is not important, but it is our task to make its basis. well, once again, after this

, information from blumber has already appeared on september , whether there will be a presentation of this plan at the un site, we will follow it. thank you, mykola davydyuk , a ukrainian political scientist joined the freedom morning and we talked about the future meeting in saudi arabia well, there is already confirmation from the ministry of foreign affairs of brazil that ukraine will participate in the summit on the peace formula of president volodymyr zelenskyi in saudi arabia , and this is very good news, we are working on the restoration of the world security system, that's what andrii yarmak , the head of the office of the president of ukraine, writes. important topics were covered on the pages of radio svoboda and also for promptness, subscribe to radio svoboda on all social networks well, the morning

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