[000:00:00;00] in georgia an hour ago she said that they asked, they asked russian tourists whether there are conflicts in ukraine or is it an occupation or a provocation. that is, the same question was asked about the territory of georgia, but instead we understand that there is no provocation . yes, we understand what he is talking about. i wonder how representative these protest actions are in front of the astoria grande liner , which was carrying russian vacationers on board, so to speak, among many underprivileged people who sang at the concert for russia and so on. and so on. to what extent do those people who came out in front of the liner really represent the opinion of the absolute majority

of society in georgia because well, we have uh , we have quite a lot of information. to the end of understanding what the georgians stand for yes hmm and this is a very good question and this is the first question, it is so complex and difficult, i can clearly say that, taking into account all the polls that we conducted in georgia from the beginning of the full-scale invasion of ukraine , we georgians are europe tells us support so that georgia itself has the opportunity to join the eu and nato, that is, approximately 70% of our population supports such and such an entry, but i have already said that our government calls people who came out to protests protestants, calls them deacons, and

of course not i can say that now it is mostly about the majority of the population, but it is definitely more than half , as far as they believe, what they stand for now is another question. tried to attract foreign agencies as well as other events. we really saw that a lot of young people turned out, not only in tbilisi, but in other cities, so we can say that this is the representation of the majority of our population, but unfortunately, not all of them are ready for such decisive actions actions, but i am sure that the time will come and this will also change, timur, and are there any such social circumstances

, including that these attitudes should be converted ? we have seen the georgian revolution . remembering the support of the georgian people, the ukrainians remember this, we sit and wonder why the moscow forces have been sitting for so long without the support of the majority, and they are the current government. there is always a possibility of a european, euro-atlantic vector, and we also talked about a revolution in our country in order to change something . you may not sound quite right from

my mouth, but in fact it is easy to do when the economy is in a bad state, people have certain funds due to the influence of russian exports, so in a certain way, capital flows into russia . therefore, those people who are close to our government earn quite a lot, those people do not want any changes, unfortunately, most people do not have access to such money, they are really suffering from economic inflation which was caused by these russian exporters and their lives are getting worse every day , that's why many young georgians are leaving the country and that's why i think there are georgians many of them actually joined the international international legion and are fighting against the russian occupier in ukraine. another question is when will the boiling point come? next october

, we will have elections in a year. if this boiling point comes before this moment , there may be a change of government, then we will see . again during this time how people like our government will conduct their business or will they continue to call our protestants savages or uh will they call such actions provocative and ultimately such the question of who is the occupier in russia and in georgia , if they continue such a policy, they will not last long, and that is why i truly believe that the next government will not win .

for economic reasons, on the other hand, the holy place is not empty and these empty places are now being replaced by the russians, and this is actually tragic for me as a ukrainian to watch, and i really sympathize with georgia for the future, because any presence of a russian and the time that a russian spends everything in georgia by the way, roman and i had conversations about how the occupied crimea has mixed marriages , so that is, ukrainian citizens under occupation get married without colonizers-occupiers, children are born , they are ukrainian citizens according to the law and what to do this is a kind of legal conflict of some kind and we are hmm we are probably i think so, that is, a large number of russian evaders are now in georgia, i

have such people among my once acquaintances from crimea. they are now sitting in tbilisi and it is very funny because they waved the flag in crimea, russia will come and now they are sitting in georgia, how do you see all this in us, and your society looks at all this, or so a little ahead, 10 years ahead, this question is visible to you and unfortunately i have to say that our government, as well as a large part of our population, unfortunately do not think about the ten-year perspective , we do not plan so far. tried hard for decades to get rid of such a russian yoke, in particular within the framework of russian capital of the russian market, they tried to get out and open a window to other markets there or in europe or in the north

or in latin america, but now we see that we have reached a dead end and therefore we see that and hundreds of the russian people who are now in georgia, we are again dependent on them , we are dependent on their funds, we hope that there will be certain changes in the government of georgia, then our uh, otherwise our there will be total impoverishment in our country. unfortunately, that is, we we understand what will be the blow to the economy of georgia, therefore i believe that it is our duty as journalists or any other public figures to explain to people how dangerous it really is for so many russians to be on the territory of ukraine, for example our president has often referred to

the introduction of the visa of the regime. i actually also support such regulatory actions . do you think real fundamental changes are possible? you often talk about the election process, that is , about natural political things that should lead to a change in the situation, but we somehow we bear now, speaking about your political situation, the influence of uh, in particular, due to quite a lot of people from the russian federation, on the political picture in georgia. we have the problem of the oligarchy in our country. now , because of the war, it has gone a little to the background . you are also familiar with this problem, and it has a specific name . what to do with it very briefly because it is from the air anxiety begins i am really sorry to hear this so naturally certain steps must be taken people who have the appropriate influence who have a connection

to russia money they should not be in the georgian parliament has hope that we will be able to bring the right representatives to power, but i can still say that we have a lot of oligarchs who continue to earn money in russia even today, in particular , we are talking about the founder of the ruling party of georgia, the head of this party and the founder of this party with made his capital in the 90s in russia of course all this needs to be changed thank you timur thank you for including timur kigurat for journalists from georgia joined the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel good conversation as for me yes yes i understand that if we are worried about that and we are really now making a short pow, then while we and our viewers are running to the shelter, uh, because they took off, uh, moments, we will call them moments, they could have taken off somewhere in the russian federation.

minutes, the battalion has a lot of combat history , the battalion began at the very beginning of the full-scale invasion as a purely volunteer unit, that is, it was initially formed on the basis of our party organization freedom in the city of kyiv, from activists from supporters, then to us already a lot of people started to join, just literally from the street there, acquaintances, and so on, and the battalion then, in the format of a voluntary formation of a territorial community, took part in the defense of kyiv in the battles in irpen, in the battles in the direction of baryshiv on the left bank, in the liberation of buchi and gostomel, and so on after the conquest of kyiv ended, after the muscovites were driven away from kyiv, the battalion became part of the national guard, namely, the fourth operational brigade of the national guard

, line a-a, and went on combat work in rubizhne, the city of rubizhne in the luhansk region , where extremely heavy fighting took place. then there were also extremely heavy battles in lysychansk, north donets . forces, and actually everything should go according to plan to destroy the orcs , but let's not rush ahead, because this is a war, it's a difficult war, and i don't like to make any preliminary predictions, er, to exaggerate waiting and so on in the direction where our battalion is now standing, very heavy fighting and there were several attempts of enemy attack on our positions with the use

of tanks with the use of other armored aviation equipment, helicopters, i am silent about artillery of all types, this is self-evident, but the guys held their positions the guys destroyed the enemy's armored vehicles and did not allow the enemy to advance . now here we are, the guys who just now left the fighting from the front line. there is a certain internal rotation and those the guys who have served their time are now in the reserve, and even here, being in the reserve not far from the front line, they continue to undergo training and training to improve their skills and are ready at any moment to stand in for the direct performance of combat tasks on the front line in view of the the direction where your guys are standing. i understand that you had

to face enemy units not only of the regular army of the russian federation, but it was probably wagner and terrorists of the so-called dpr and lpr . can you somehow differentiate the effectiveness of these enemies wagner, so because wagner it was the main force precisely in the bakhmut direction when we worked in the winter of last year, well, this year and last year , well, what can be said about wagner, wagner achieved well , it must be recognized that a certain effectiveness is due to two things, the first cannibalistic domestic politics, let's say yes, that is, there are real executions for any disagreement , executions for execution of orders, executions for anything, and that’s it . well, in their russian coordinate system, it works, that is, they really go on the attack because they understand that only he is hunting him

they will shoot their own. that is, this is such a super-repression. and secondly, it is absolute indifference to losses, that is, i understand that in the regular russian army, in principle, everyone does not care about losses, but still there. well, i don’t know , there is some kind of minimal understanding. they can surely punish the commander there that if he has any abnormal losses according to their standards there, relatively speaking, someone will ask for these soldiers. yes, there are some relatives there who will raise the question of where they are, what they are, and so on, and from wagner's point of view, they will spit in general, that is, they recruited convicts er, they drove all the meat assaults, they lay down there by the tens of thousands and they didn't care at all. yes, they have not only convicts there , they also have professional mercenaries. yes, if you can say so, but they went there already in the second the third wave, i.e. the first wave, it was always these meaty assaults by the zeki. and as for the volonerivtsi from dnirov, well, here

again, they are used by the russian command as cannon fodder, which is absolutely cannon fodder, well, that is, not all of them are used as cannon fodder yes, but them especially the west decided how much to give us help, when the russians built several lines of defense and replaced everything, in your opinion , could the western world have given us help earlier , and would it have helped us today with the contras , and definitely and in fact, let's start with that that we take the 90s and 2000s, ukraine was disarming, we gave away nuclear weapons, we gave away a lot of other weapons , we gave away our own strategic aviation and a lot of other types of weapons that

we really need now, including let's not lie, and the west also supported it, it is armed, so they are partly to blame for us, in fact, and if they had helped us since the 14th year, since uh, at least they are helping now, then i think everything would have gone completely differently and the war from the 14th year would have gone completely differently, but let's not go into debry, in the end let's not forget that we also had a lot of problems and we had different people as presidents, such as yanukovych , who sold ukraine to muscovites and so on. and this all led to to what we also have to understand that our policy led to the fact that we were losing combat capability and defense capability, and there is no one to blame here , the people who held positions in ukraine and made this decision, and if we talk about today, of course, i would like them to

give us this aid in doses, to give them immediately and in those quantities they are needed, but again, i understand that here, uh, i understand how complicated this political process is. i understand that our diplomacy is working, doing everything possible to achieve these supplies, and so on and of course, if we had, for example, the same f-16s from the very beginning of at least a full-scale invasion, not to mention the 14th year, it would be much easier today to destroy enemy defenses, especially after the kharkiv counteroffensive, one of the main suppliers of weapons in ukraine became the russian federation, leaving behind an extremely large amount of ammunition and equipment . does your battalion still have it, for example, and do you use it now against russia? of course , there is trophy equipment, there is trophy ammunition

, there is trophy weapon. everything is working today for the ukrainian victory, we also need to understand what we will say, it really sounds paradoxical, but the largest supply of weapons for we continue the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel from the shelter, now the entire territory of our country is full of alarm, please take care of your safety, as we take care the employees of the espresso tv channel are on the phone and in the studio right now, my colleague ihor checherinda, yehor. i congratulate you . i invite you to speak for a short time due to the russian aggression. you

have 5 minutes to join today. congratulations, khrystyna yehor shchycherinda with you espresso scandal from kyiv interfered a little in our plans air alert the russians are trying to attack ukraine again that is why our conversation with the famous political scientist valery dymov will start with this topic putin about other relevant topics p valery what do you think now about the threat of ballistics i understand nad kiev over ukraine, what does the activation of russian missile attacks have to do with the ukrainian big cities being called again, as i understand it, all these russian pieces of paper and regulatory documents have been scattered all over moscow now all russians representatives of foreign intelligence will also be able to familiarize themselves with them. in your opinion, what is the connection with the intensification of attacks on ukraine , on kiev in particular, now i am asking for russian tourism, as well as the russian rebellion 8 is unforgivable , that is, there is no sense of any military purpose . there is no a-a terror here also nothing new, russia is a country of terrorists and a country of terrorists, if we look at the public , they are all satisfied with something, they are satisfied

, they only kill a little, they bomb the wrong people in the centers, they don't hit kiev , or washington needs to hit warsaw you have to be against others, you have to beat them, that's why in fact ukraine tourists and these things are tolerated , if there are pops, it's clear that there will be a proposal , the russians want such blows. russia is russia . and there is always a demand to interfere with the lives of others. i'm a kid from the curate's so-so formidable so-so p peter the first and the second catherine that's why they will beat in order to be liked there is no point, let me remind you there is no point in beating on er ports because

actually er they have been them for a long time er not they can seize it and they are afraid of it, but they destroy the grain, they can simply stop ukrainian exports, let's skip a little later , we'll talk. shevchenkivskyi park is opposite the university, but we join from the square of the former leo tolstoy, now it is called the ukrainian hero of pereymenov, and well, from here we are in hiding together with you ... it is not appropriate why these dog bites that do not globally change anything in the security situation of the russian capital or the frontline situation directly on the front line. what do you think about such three drones? to the ministry of economy, it's good that you and i started, we should have broadcasted

the red building, there is the faculty of philosophy, which i graduated from, so, you know , people say, and you only make such symbolic blows , i will remind you that symbolic is not what it is. well, mosquitoes don't bite this year - this is when the great and great is embodied, seemingly insignificant at first, but then it forms the order dan and it forms your perception of reality, what is it about? do you remember the article by zabrodskyi and zulazhny about the fact that while the enemy won't feel what war is like on tv , he won't be able to understand what's going on, that's why they're watching, they're watching a football match on tv, let's win, we can repeat something like that. they live in that paranoid paradise. and to destroy it, firstly, secondly, if there is no sense in this, then please tell me. and what was the sense, for example, of british pilots in the 40th year, when in the battle of britain, when america, german nazi bombers bombed kovel , three cities of great britain were bombed they made a raid on berlin, it would seem that on the one hand there is no sense in the flow in one direction anti-aircraft defense anti-aircraft guns and so on

, the whole german machine is working, but on the other hand , it was not what they did and they showed the germans that you will not be protected, that we cannot do it repeat what are these not poems to tell you, but this game can be played in two ray dolittle, do you remember the time of the second world war, when in april 42 , after pergar, americans from bombers based on an aircraft carrier flew one-to-one in one direction to give tokyo this small very serious symbols, effect and effectiveness, the effect shows, er, the enemy that you will not be protected, your effectiveness shows your citizens that you have to beat the enemy on his territory, very little time, unfortunately, friends, colleagues , very little time, many topics, you know, you know, one more question forbes wrote type of influential world publication that three ships for the first time in the last two weeks, ships under the jurisdiction of israel, greece and the semi-jurisdiction of turkey, georgia entered the port

of izmail on the danube the other day, breaking through this the russian blockade of the black sea, and they were closely followed by nato planes. this was reported by forbes. how do you assess this event in the perspective of the restoration of the grain corridor ? i ask, but briefly, a very predicted event, as for the odesa maidan, let putin grow now, that is, he promised that he would hit the ships, these ships are going and there were problems with freight companies and insurance companies because the insurance premiums for going through the danger zones are the same. but if these ships are going, then what will putin do now? beating a turkish-georgian ship will be a turkish ship and in the end you work for yourself project partner healthy vision gelfix glaufix protection and maintenance of the acuity of your vision a feeling of deterioration of vision discomfort in the eyes sensitivity to bright light these are possible precursors of cataracts and

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