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[000:00:00;00] an iron resort where more than a dozen influential states will gather, so the russian federation, the aggressor state, will not be there , we understand that the parameters of the negotiations of the whole world without russia can also have extremely specific results, that is, the world can finally unite and develop its clear position on the other side, they are currently ongoing difficult negotiations with the united states , in particular regarding the provision of security guarantees to ukraine, until you have the floor, well, first of all, you are absolutely right that those countries that have always occupied a balanced position, let's say in quotation marks, are gathering position in relation to the war in ukraine, including those who hesitated as to how to define themselves, and that is why this forum is so important, because it can be the last step towards the consolidation of the whole world around the formula of the peace
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of ukraine, not to forget the formula of the peace of ukraine is to leave the territory of ukraine the last terrorist of the enemy and free our territory - this is number one, there can be no discussions about leaving some territories in a state of frozen conflict, this is the key withdrawal of all enemy troops and after that we we can start a dialogue and this dialogue will definitely adapt to the accession of ukraine to nato, this will be the first thing that will be discussed, and here is your question about the guarantees of the guarantees of one country 2-3 in order to, well, let's say to give ukraine greater hope, security defense. she can conduct herself. she has to
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the right to life but only until our victory why because until the victory until and where the war is still part of the temporarily occupied territories we cannot now become full members of nato, this is directly prohibited by the nato charter and this should be known, but after victories, you and i must draw historical conclusions, and here only membership in nato. trust my political experience, guarantees that are written on paper, that are announced, and then over time are interpreted in any way . our budapest memorandum is therefore a beautiful example in quotes, when we gave up nuclear weapons not under pressure ourselves, but the budapest memorandum, which was promoted as a fundamental guarantee of our security , turned into nothing in the end, and therefore the guarantees , but written perfectly, absolutely everything must
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be provided for, no formalities whatsoever the slogans are only direct real guarantees, which go as far as to say that if something goes wrong here, nato troops will enter the courts and fight with us . this is what we have to determine for ourselves, but even before the victory we understand how much blood there is, we see how aggressively russia is now beginning to concentrate additional manpower and so on . we understand that putin is extremely tough and ready to play this way, and we have seen a number of manifestations of this case there, including the destruction of the kakhovka hydroelectric power station dam, as far as we understand, he was giving such a criminal hint towards the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant here on
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this way, during this process, we have the prospect of concluding a powerful security agreement with the united states, but unfortunately, or fortunately, it exists. as far as i understand , its parameters are kept secret, and we would like to ask you there at least a maximum we understand that politics is about big bargaining. well, in our case, the main thing is wrong, well, first of all, putin has always declared that he has half the world supporting him and supporting him with this special operation, as he says, if now, or rather, most likely , now this big forum who is going to saudi arabia, he will definitely put an end to any double standards, as i want to believe and i know that everyone is working for this . that is, we need the formula of the peace of ukraine
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. this means not a gram of territory, an enemy cart this means reparations to ukraine, bringing to justice those who were actually involved in murders and destruction of our territory, this is all our formula for peace , well, of course, sanctions are all . if they stand on our peace formula, it essentially knocks out the entire foundation from under the feet of the kremlin of this greedy regime, so that they continue confidently, they will have no more ground on which to lean. they believed that they have some kind of shadow coalition in the world and that they can hereby playing this forum will put an end to this and this is its purpose, its essence and its benefit for today's struggle of ukraine, and then here
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the question is very clear guarantees. we need guarantees, no guarantees can replace membership in nato and no guarantees can become the basis for freezing the conflict at least on some part of the ukrainian territory, you understand, because the plan of this bloody kremlin is to cut everything, as in the villages, they took away and fixed here, the territory was taken and fixed, and then devour it with the force of murders, but we cannot let this go and therefore, guarantees and guarantees can be different things to us. we need guarantees that we will be supported to the maximum until we win, we must have guarantees that if there is even a minimal threat of a nuclear attack, then we will be protected by nato forces, if there is even one more terrorist act, we must know firmly that
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will intervene and will fight together with us these guarantees we need but no guarantees can replace the integrity of the territory of nato membership and in principle the creation of a super-strong own army in ukraine with our overpowering industrial military complexes, because in this cruel and cynical world we need to rely on ourselves and build our strength so that everyone knows that we, including self-sufficiency, it is important to have a substantive conversation about security guarantees about membership in nato about the same eu that we actually learned after the beginning of a full-scale invasion not even after the start of the war in the 14th year, but actually after a full-scale invasion and it was not immediately there and we remember when the istanbul action
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of the world was what was there for a few days so our the military first of all proved that ukraine can stand for it, that we have the will power and only after that did the support begin, after the support began, now we understand that in fact, providing all this support, all these promises and guarantees, they are still looking at how they are going combat operations on how we fight on how the counteroffensive advances, but again, it is very difficult to fight without weapons and it is a huge loss, therefore, next to this, there must be a not very powerful high-level ukrainian diplomacy and communication and the inner middle of the country is divided into different categories of the population, and the outer one is the same. it must also be diversified, that is, speak to different countries and different groups of countries in a language that will be the most understandable for them, which is currently not possible with our diplomacy and communication.
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look, first of all, i'll start with what did you start with, the negotiation process that began in istanbul, and this is right before diplomacy, first of all, it is impossible for people who are not deep specialists in this matter, who do not know, to be engaged in diplomatic negotiations the history of humanity, who do not know deeply the history of military conflicts in the world and who do not know what can be the arguments for all the participants and who are the participants in general, the shadows and shadows of these negotiations, and therefore you remember the istanbul process as it began and what the agreement even was initialed, this is an example of what cannot be done because there were four large sections in this document, we were included in the consultation on this document and we gave our opinion and in that version
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it could not be assumed there the first the point is to fix the territories that have already been captured by the occupiers . well, relatively speaking, those territories that already need discussion crimea for 15 years, do you remember yes, the second block - it was the most difficult block - it is a defense block when it was prescribed to reduce our army minimization of weapons, in essence, we were disarmed by this treaty and this was unacceptable , if you remember, even military exercises with nato countries were prohibited with other countries as unacceptable, it was the second block , the third block too no, never and that's why not to allow a strong army to prevent collective membership and to record those territories captured by the occupier as disputed territories and then the fourth section, it was
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the most terrible because it concerned our traditions, our history, our culture, our language, and all this in this section was minimized until the return of the monuments, he everything was spelled out in detail for us on the streets, because to them our ukrainianness, to us our ukrainian soul - this is what hurts them very much and this agreement was ratified. i am very grateful that then our friends in the western world intervened and that of the then british prime minister boris johnson. and this is just a continuation of the answer to your question, because then you remember the borscht. johnson immediately flew to kyiv, and it was just immediately. the conversation was such that this istanbul version was put to an end once and for all, you know why because it was not the road to peace, because it was the road to the continuation of the war, to capture and
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make frozen conflict those territories that are temporarily occupied, to minimize our army, to prevent it from entering the collective system of security, start destroying our culture , our traditions, history, language, and then after 4-5 years come to an unarmed ukraine again. this was the road to war, not the road to peace, and this should have been understood by professional people, diplomats , and those people who understand very well what they are is represented by russia, and thank god that it was not signed then, it was only interrupted , and now there is a new element of risk that our peace formula is not changed , that guarantees are not made that replace a real victory, that is what is important and real membership in nato and that
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as far as diplomacy is concerned, i definitely cannot share when diplomatic posts are being appointed or are planning to appoint inexperienced people who do not have a deep understanding of the processes taking place in those countries. i am very sorry for our ambassador in great britain. a very professional, authoritative person. in london , he really was a worthy, strong face of ukraine. i don't know what kind of internal misunderstandings led to this, but it seems to me that he should simply be returned to this position because it is part of our strength on the international arena such people must represent ukraine thank you yulia tymoshenko working live in our studio people's deputy of ukraine now a short pause and after it
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and shape public opinion, people who defend ukraine and create the future right now the main and interesting thing in the program is the verdict of serhiy rudenko from monday to friday at 8:00 p.m. repeat at 12:10 yulia tymoshenko is a people's deputy of ukraine, former prime minister of ukraine and , accordingly, a former former prisoner of the times of yanukovych's dictatorship, i, mrs. yulia, are talking about international affairs and ukrainian diplomacy, and not only about the corresponding consequences , just a few days ago a conflict flared up in the public part , in particular, it is about the diplomatic exchange of notes between ukraine and poland ukrainian mfa summoned the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of poland to the carpet, so to speak, we understand that poland is our loyal and consistent ally, that is, from the beginning of the russian aggression, poland took on an extremely
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large responsibility, this applies to both people and the timely supply of weapons. well, in general, she did not play with the so-called hungarian politics double to three triple about putin's standards and here we have a certain kind of miscommunication. what is happening, well, this is what you and i just talked about. this is complete dilettantism understanding of the importance of international affairs today's positions for ukraine poland is not just our ally, it is our support in the european union in all matters related to our defense with our support, it is incredible poland showed itself at the beginning of the war not just as a friend, they just stood by shoulder to shoulder with us and the conflict that took place when some
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excuse me , an employee of the presidential administration of the president's office. in the war and in hope for victory, it is easy to take and, well, to really decorate at the diplomatic level, it means to simply knock the ground out from under your feet , how could you do that? i think that the president should first of all dismiss from his office the person who attacked, rudely and dishonestly attacked poland secondly, to apologize and thirdly, hold a conversation at the highest level between the presidents and it is imperative to put everything in its place. we have no right to injure our allies so painfully today
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. yes, there is a problem, this problem is connected with well in general, the sale of our agricultural products during the war is a great pain for ukraine, but if today middlemen buy grain from all our agrarians for essentially nothing, then these middlemen, with the support of the entire state system, export it and instead of transiting it, start dumping it at the intra-european level - this is absolutely dishonest behavior towards our partners and i can say that if we have agreed on something, if we have agreed that we are allowed to transit with our grain and we have a place to sell, we cannot destroy the internal markets the countries of our friends and then also strike. when we are asked to settle this situation, and one more thing is what concerns
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the export of our grain. well, i, as a two-time prime minister, can tell you that they began to negotiate some grain agreements to please the terrorist and the murderer in order for him to miss our grain - the path to nowhere and sooner or later it would end as it did, we had two reasonable and absolutely adequate ways. the first way is the ships that carry our grain with the flags of nato countries , the united states, great britain - what a country that will transport our grain on ships with its flags, never in your life, i guarantee you this, the aggressor did not strike without a single blow, why these negotiations were not held, why these paths were not opened - this is the first thing that had to be done , the second thing that had to be done was the opportunity this organization was of the united
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nations. ukraine solves the global task of providing food products to the world . countries that need our grain. they are in the united nations balance sheet system. to give grain to special forces , these are blue helmets, the organization of the united nations, which had to patrol the export of grain to those countries that will be, he did not go for it. and i believe that this time has been missed and they have gone down the absolutely wrong path of some kind of agreement with the aggressor, that is, that we have a deadly war, they do not wish us any good and never did, they do not want
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to support these grain agreements, this is from the first of the day was an unstable decision, the foreign flags of nato countries - this is the first decision and it was the easiest to negotiate with all our allies and the second - this is patrolling with blue fairy tales of the organization of the nations of our grain caravans on them . direct blows are delivered and here i can say that it was not necessary to be a mega-specialist to understand that when it started to fluctuate the so-called grain agreement in quotes that they will hit the ports, what should have been done immediately and predicted in advance this is to strengthen the air defense of that sector, which is actually a transshipment point for our grain. and for this
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, well, excuse me, uah 2 billion to allocate a single marathon of uah 2 billion, we could close half the country of air defense, conditionally speaking, but if it is smart , competently build a frantic system , taking into account the countermeasures against drones shahedam e-e rockets all the planes this is a crazy thing we had the opportunity to cover the desks very reliably for this money and you just know it hurts me when the air defense of the entire territory of a is not covered now we are going now, not us, but those who are going to film series, which series, which series, hundreds of millions of hryvnias for series, 2 billion is not a single marathon, dear friends, we are not just at war, we are fighting for the right of ukrainians to live in this world, on this land, and to spend such money today is simple
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brosova at a time when people are dying and our possibilities are finally closed and so on. well, this is not state policy, it is something else, but not state policy, and that is why i want the president, as the commander-in-chief, to intervene immediately in these things, the budget must be reviewed and taken away everything from there that is not related to the protection of the country, the ban, the protection of people, and there are a lot of such things that are simply surprising , and i think that the president will hear and understand and be able to act. correctly, the grain of the agreement, well, you heard what this barbarian putin said. he said very simply, ukrainian grain is not needed in the external arena. we will close it with russian grain, and therefore the grain agreement itself was not part of the aggressor's plans. it is utopia to think that someone will force him
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to do something that, in his opinion, is not the future is useful for his terrorist regime and we have to hope for ourselves that we want to touch on another topic 100% of all ukrainians are interested in. how did you say that it was necessary to predict where they would be hit ? because it takes a lot of time, sometimes a year, to restore it. it has not been a year since the last shelling. accordingly, the winter will be difficult for ukrainians to survive it, so at that time they expected that there would be no gas, they probably started to switch to electricity, there was no electricity as it will be now. look, this is a very professional issue. well, it cannot be politicized as it is now. it has always been clear that if the transformer substations are not protected, our energy system cannot be guaranteed against these attacks. what should be done is not only to restore, but it is necessary
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to monolithically protect the transformer substations in order to any blow could not destroy them , what can be done, stand up on the eve of the seasons , protect our transformer substations . at first, well, in the spring, and when it was already clear that we need to protect these works they have not been done to date, that is why i say it must be done immediately and we must act urgently, we must allocate priority money for this, the second thing is important to survive the winter, we have 32 billion cubic meters of underground gas storages , we do not depend on anyone here, in the summer now the cheapest price for all the gas in the world, including we can pump our own , and this must be done so that no problem related to the attack affects the supply of people with gas, heat and, as a result, also light
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, because gas is present, this must be done immediately pump up our gas storages at 100% gas, they are not pumped in today i can’t understand why i can’t give myself a report why this is a secondary thing and the last thing is our coal, i also won’t explain why wages are not paid why well, miners were excessively taken to the front and ours are stopped mines, without it, it will be very difficult for us to survive the winter. we must have at least 2 million tons of coal in the warehouse. this is mast . it is definitely not available today, and that is why your question is to call people to prepare for a severe winter. well, every family must take care of this. but this cannot be the only solution of the government, we need gas in storage, concrete structures that
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protect the transformer of the station and amplification , we just need to intensively extract our ukrainian coal now. and plus, we definitely need to think about nuclear fuel, this is the nuclear fuel cycle itself. and now they are closing mines that uranium is mined and they are essentially being liquidated, you can't do that, dear friends . i want to say one thing to every uh, every country in peacetime must be managed professionally , but countries that are going through such crises military attacks as it is now ukraine mega need to be corrected professionally every day even every hour is sometimes important and therefore i can only advise the president to immediately review the composition of the government and strengthen it as much as possible are irrelevant now political flags absolutely need to think now where

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