[000:00:00;00] welcome to the broadcast of the program of the ukrainian voice of america time and i and the presenter ostap yarysh what do you think the president of the united states donald trump has already been charged with criminal charges for the third time, this time he is accused of illegally trying to change the results of the 2020 election in order to gain power if trump is found guilty then the maximum possible punishment under the most serious articles is 20 years of imprisonment, the further consideration of the case commented on the special prosecutor of the us minister jack smith at the capitol of our of the country on january 6, 2021 was an unprecedented attack on the heart of american democracy as stated in the indictment it was fueled by the suspect's lies aimed at obstructing the fundamental

functions of the us government the national process of collecting the count and certifying the results of the presidential election in this case my office is seeking an expedited trial so that our evidence could be tested in court and evaluated by a jury while i must emphasize that the indictment is only statement and the defendant must be considered innocent until his guilt is proven in court beyond a reasonable doubt, this is the comment of the special prosecutor , and a closer look at the essence of the accusations and how it can affect the election campaign will help to understand tetyana vorozhko, who is now joining our broadcast tanya, i congratulate you congratulations, this is already the third criminal case against former president trump, what exactly is he accused of now and what is the maximum penalty, also according to the most serious articles, the maximum penalty is up to 20 years under one of the articles from one of the accusations, but in principle

they can add up together or some can overlap each other, so determine what the possible term will be and at the moment well, few people will do it, which of the lawyers they had who will do it if talk about the substance of the charges well let's say one of the charges of conspiracy to conspire to attempt to defraud the united states is about these very widespread large-scale repeated and assertions by donald trump that this 2020 election they were falsified and at the same time he knew that these statements were false in order to influence the outcome of the election of course donald trump like any other person in the united states has the right to express any opinion even if this opinion is false he can also be sued even if he does not have such grounds for a lawsuit, by the way, he did it, but this indictment says about it

, attention is drawn to a few points, firstly , it was done in collusion with other people and that's all there were seven, it is called the seven conspirators, and the journalists were able to identify six of these persons. who are these persons, and they are not named , but well, they calculated that one of them is rudiaz juliani , and secondly, it is proved that there are many, many , many such and evidence that it is not could he not know that what he said was untrue, because he was told about it by people who were closest to him, whom he should have trusted, and who actually are also republicans, who were even interested in the donatrams winning it as leaders of his election campaign, and intelligence representatives, and representatives of high-ranking officials of the ministry of justice whom he had already appointed, and the election commission, the heads of the election commissions of legislators of various levels, that is, he

had this information, as is proven again and again. thousands of dead souls before that he had a conversation with the head of the state election commission who told him that we examined this accusation, we did not find evidence for it, the next two and the following two charges relate to conspiring to obstruct the normal election process , what happens after voting in the united states is a complicated process, certification of elections takes place at the state level, then at the level of the entire united states, and there, well, such different methods were used as direct pressure even on the members of the commission, on the legislators who have to certify these elections, there was also an attempt to make a scheme with fake voters well, it did not succeed, but it is nevertheless and such an attempt in accordance with this of the indictment, and one more point - this is pressure on mike pence

, this is the president of the time, who was supposed to certify these elections. at first, these were private conversations with neutraf , he tried to convince the pension to not certify these elections, canceled the results, sent them again to the election commissions, and said that in i do not have such authority, and donald trump allegedly told him that well, you are too honest . well, the latter is all that directly concerns january 6. and when the attempt to disrupt the actual certification of the elections is noted in no, trump is not accused of organizing it, and in this way he tried to deprive the people of their right to vote, their right to express their will, this is an attempt by the administration, and already biden has already interfered in the electoral process , the elections among the republicans, and also compare the actions of the administration with the nazi regime of the soviet union germany in the 33rd year, and there are different despotic

regimes, it is interesting that the lawyer rudyat zhulyany said that it will be very difficult to prove because it is necessary to prove that he knew that he was lying, how can this matter affect to the election campaign now, tanya well, this is not the first case, it is already the third case and all these cases they have such perhaps they will have such accumulative effects first well, it is worth noting that currently the support of donald trump continues to grow, he is now supported according to such accumulative calculations and 53% of the votes and the support for, for example, the paratroopers, who are now in second place , is already falling, it is already less than 16% with other polls and 17%, but this is all ongoing and, first of all , there is a certain pressure on the election trump's campaign is taking his time, that is, he has to meet with lawyers, he has to be in court, and other legal actions later . this is a lot of money, and this week the data of the actual election campaign of donald trump was made public that they collected

53 million dollars at the beginning of the year and - and they said that they spent 25 million on other lawyers' legal expenses, and with other data, for example, ip says that these 40 million . support among republican voters, well, support among general election democrats and independents. well, it will fall. and what is it that trump will be very difficult to win in the general elections, ms. thank you for your analysis of this case, tetiana voroshko was in direct contact with us. and after the attempt of the yevgenia prigozhina rebellion, putin admitted that wagner's militants were fully financed by the russian budget, this statement opens up new opportunities for the prosecutors of the international criminal court to investigate war

crimes by the wagnerites. between these crimes and the leadership of russia included with putin, what is the basis for this in international law? my colleague oleksiy kovalenko found out almost 100,000 war crimes committed by russia against ukraine are being investigated in ukrainian and international courts, and the cases against the leadership of russia, in particular its president , attract the most attention of the world community vladimir putin at the international level, he has already been recognized as an accused war criminal in accordance with the arrest warrant of the international criminal court on charges that putin is personally involved in the deportation of thousands of children from ukraine, which is a war crime in accordance with international laws. for the first time in the history of the international criminal court or any other court , judges consider it necessary to issue an arrest warrant against the leader or high-ranking official of a country , a permanent member of the un security council, a country that

is supposed to protect the un charter, so this apolitical and fact-based investigation is being conducted by my office and will stand the test of time, however, the child deportation case is not the only case being investigated by the international criminal court and could potentially lead to new arrest warrants against putin and the highest leadership of russia for arrest depend on the actions of the prosecutor of the international criminal court, he can submit requests for arrest warrants to the judges of the icc who will make a decision. are there grounds for issuing future warrants, but definitely the prosecutor clearly stated that he is actively engaged new investigations in ukraine, as well as in other countries, we expect that there will be more action on this matter, one of the rights that could lead to similar investigations and potentially new arrest warrants against putin has a case for war crimes of the so-called private military company wagner, the legal status of this group in russia is not fully understood, private military companies

are prohibited by russian law, but moscow used the wagner group in cooperation with the russian army in ukraine , in particular in the bakhmut battles, although the wagner mercenaries are under us sanctions and of other countries in 2017, denying sufficient control over the wagner group, previously russia avoided legal responsibility for its actions. why is it difficult to prove the connection of the wagner group with by the authorities of russia, the professor explains, the rule of the westpoint academy violates international law, does it happen under the control of russian instructions or direct control, so for example, if it is proved that wagner's fighters are involved in the deliberate killing of civilians, it is necessary to see whether at the moment when they were committing murders, they were in the chain of command in which had russian officers or was it only the command of the group. also, it seems to me that due to the ambiguity of the organization, it is difficult

to link the behavior of wagner from the state by the authorities, but this is all a matter of evidence, one of the evidences of the direct ties of the russian authorities with the militants of the wagner groups was recently provided by putin himself, he admitted that moscow from may 2022 to may 2023 fully financed the mercenaries, spending about 1 billion dollars on them from the budget, according to experts from international law, this statement by putin will make it easier for international courts to work with presley of the russian leadership for crimes committed by the wagner militants. putin's words potentially have very serious consequences in terms of holding russia accountable for acting wagner and personally prosecuting putin as the leader of russia, although the funding alone may not be enough to prosecute someone for an international crime , putin will no longer be able to deny sufficient

control or direct connection with the wagner group . to the de facto state bodies of russia because there are actual relations between the formations of the state and now we know much more about the real relations due to president putin's exposure to this recognition it is indicated that the russian state fully finances and equips this group, it also demonstrates that the wagner group has a high level of dependence on the russian state , according to the expert of the state department on war crimes david schaefer, the international and criminal court can investigate the connections of the wagner group with the leadership of russia, which potentially can lead to new arrest warrants for putin in the case of crimes committed by wagnerian militants that the international criminal court is very experienced in dealing with groups such as wagner and as well as government institutions and governments their prices state groups the answer yes there is a good probability of new arrest warrants because the present putin

continues almost daily to expose himself for committing serious crimes or inciting serious crimes and in the end there may be an arrest warrant issued against putin by an international criminal trial for the activities of the wagner group, potential international criminal court investigations into the activities of the wagner group militants could lead to new arrest warrants for putin for crimes that number increases daily oleksiy kovalenko voice of america washington more than 24 thousand people in ukraine are still considered missing as a result of the war ukrainian authorities believe that 60% of them are alive and are in captivity others will need to be identified by dna tests and in 2014 search for people who disappeared due to the war the international commission on missing persons is helping. my colleague maria olyanovska spoke with

the head of the organization in ukraine, matthew holiday. their conversation is further information according to the official information of ukraine until february 24 in the 22nd year, the number of missing people was less than 100, and since the full-scale invasion it has already increased to 24 thousand. can really benefit from closer cooperation with international organizations and, in particular , the commission on missing persons, we have powerful dna laboratories that focus exclusively on cases of missing persons, this can definitely help the authorities to identify more people in addition to this we now see and hear about many complex cases of unidentified bodies very fragmented

sometimes burned this creates challenges for the best experts in the world and we provide support to ukraine to investigate these extremely difficult cases of forensic work with bodies and identification the dead, so i think that in the future we can do a lot more to compare, for example , with the experience of the former yugoslavia in terms of the intensity of the duration of the war and the difference in technologies, how much more complicated is the situation in ukraine now during the war that led to the disintegration of the former yugoslavia at the end of the conflict in bosnia, for example, there were about 30,000 unaccounted for, obviously we are talking about the entire period from 1992 to 1996, these figures can be compared, but ukraine has a similar number of disappeared missing persons already one and a half years after the full-scale invasion , in the case of identification of bodies, missing persons disappeared in bosnia and the duchy, the difficulty was

that the criminals who executed the victims first placed them in mass graves and then returned the buried, dug them up and scattered the remains of the bodies, then we found the mixed remains of many people and scattered in different graves and so far we have not seen anything like this in ukraine but we do not know what is happening in the occupied territories at the same time considering the nature of this war and the weapons that are used that the bodies are often not whole, unfortunately, they decompose very much, only fragments remain and this makes their identification very difficult, when ukraine finally liberates the occupied territories, we will see many mass graves in the very mariupoli, according to official reports, at least 20,000 people died there, although the unofficial number is many times higher than in ukraine, prepare in advance for this challenge because it will be an incredible amount of work

, in fact, a lot can be done, you are absolutely right, with the liberation of the currently occupied territories , more new burials will inevitably be found, it is possible as you say , there will be many thousands, this will create a huge burden on the city system for identifying the bodies of the victims. it is possible to do a lot, i know that the main bureau of the forensic medical examination is working on the development of a complex system to actually increase the capacity of morgue laboratories to handle these cases with the help of various scanning equipment for this. it will also be necessary to massively expand the dna base, but this will be a huge challenge in the future . how would you rate the efforts of ukraine in the search for missing persons? and the institutions that operate are constancy, first of all we must understand that ukraine is in unique circumstances , there is a war going on and the country is fighting for its

existence, at the same time it has already started investigation of cases of missing persons during the war and obviously, this gives rise to a whole series of various problems that no other country in the world has faced so far, usually in the past, serious efforts to investigate and search for missing persons were carried out after the advent of peace, this poses more challenges to ukraine the law on legal status of missing persons under special circumstances is thorough. i consider it key and very important that the law prescribes the creation of a single register of missing persons, which is overseen by the ministry of internal affairs, this register was put into effect at the beginning of may of this year. as far as i understand, its filling is still ongoing, but there is progress. and this is important for families on the other side. i am worried that the law is mainly humanitarian and this means that it deliberately avoids the concepts of responsibility and justice. the search groups provided for by law have a purely humanitarian purpose. their function

is what they are called humanitarian missions they are responsible for searching for the remains of burial places and removing the bodies of the dead, removing bodies from the scene of a crime or a potential place of execution must be properly documented and this does not mean that it was not properly documented, but it is necessary to ensure the admissibility of evidence for the purposes of criminal justice in the future, because the families of the missing have the right not only to know about the fate of their missing persons, but also the right to justice, it will be absolutely key for the future of ukraine to create an evidence base for justice to collect evidence that is not only admissible for consideration in court, but also can really withstand the meticulous and challenging defense lawyers and our last for today the story of how americans learn the ukrainian language, alison rodgeford, one of them, she decided that mastering a new language would be

her answer to putin's aggression, some time after starting to learn the ukrainian language , the woman began to record videos that are now gaining millions of views on social networks, and zelisom met iryna in boston solonko and pavlo terekhov hello, my name is ellason and i started learning ukrainian a year ago alison rocher 30 years old with her husband and two young daughters she lives in the suburbs of boston alison writer and editor in february last year, alison, who has no ukrainian roots, decided to learn the ukrainian language. she says she felt an overwhelming need to do something to help ukraine, and learning the ukrainian language and culture became her personal response to putin and his war. i was really impressed. the more i learned about ukrainian culture and met more people that it's really a beautiful culture that people in the world don't

know much about because it's completely normal in the united states to be in love with french culture, for example, and why ukrainian culture should be different. it is so beautiful. i feel that my life has become richer thanks to learning the ukrainian language and communicating with wonderful people whom i met who are ukrainian and i wanted to share this with others. and must have listened to the address of ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky, which was broadcast with english subtitles. his video was the first really reliable source of ukrainian-language video with with english subtitles i have watched each of them, i think more than 500 at the moment, and it is really interesting and powerful when he speaks ukrainian, after several months of self-study, alison learned about anna yurchenko on instagram, the founder and director of the uls ukrainian language school, who became

an american teacher. we meet once a a week in zoom and she gives me so much homework , the right amount of homework, if you watch it, hanna, she knows that it was important for me to read the news with a ukrainian focus, and not just read what american sources say about this war that has nothing to do with them so it makes me read and watch the news write an essay about what i read and watch alison recalls the most difficult period in the study was the fall and winter when the russians tried to take in ukrainians have light and warmth, but despite the power outage, hanna did not miss a single class with elis. she is one of those who support me the most in this experience, and what constantly motivates me is that despite all the full-scale invasion, efforts to preserve her family she always has time to practice ukrainian with me because this is her true passion in winter, when the light

appeared for a short time, as she said, please don't waste your time on me, do what you need , but in response i heard no, your lesson is important to me, such an attitude is very motivating because how can i not work if my teacher makes so much effort for hanna yurchenko, her own school was also a response to the invasion of the war. hanna worked as a translator from february 24, in fact, she was left without a job and decided why not open school of studying ukrainian for foreigners to save myself from the fear of what was happening around me, that's why i didn't consciously decide not to leave ukraine to stay here and it just helps me to somehow survive, but it all started as a simple uh, i wanted to tell people about what is really happening in ukraine it was not like a school for learning the ukrainian language. it started with something new, that is, i organized an instagram channel and i just did it there

, you know, for 24 hours. i posted news about what was happening in ukraine. i wanted people, americans , and europeans. they knew what was happening here. later, the first students appeared in luhansk, including alison. since april last year, the school , which started with one teacher and a dozen students, has turned into a powerful project involving 15 teachers and more than 200 students. yurchenko says that her school not only helps to teach language a in i had several students and one of the students said, you know , i'm so interested in ukrainian theater. everything is so complicated . tell me, please . let's read texts about ukrainian in class. there's some bread, an embroidered towel, how do i want to know all this? it's nelison, it's an engineer, the student said, and i started just to him, so little, so little, you know , to tell in small, short sentences and what is easter and what is easter and what is christmas and what is a specialist

this book of mine appeared the first easter eggs so i wrote a textbook for our students for which we can now study the ukrainian language and culture. now our school is more well, it is not just learning the ukrainian language , learning the ukrainian language is understood through this prism of ukrainian from the ukrainian mentality of identity almost after a year of learning a new language, eli's son felt that her level allows me to record motivational videos in ukrainian. yes , my relatives found out that i was learning ukrainian. i immediately started receiving messages from them. wow, you speak ukrainian . after that, we were on vacation together, then we all went and they asked and say it in ukrainian, they are very interested and they support me very much, that video in ukrainian brought alison tens of thousands of new followers on instagram, several new

videos received more than a million views, people began to massively support and thank her for her position and assistance to ukraine, among the messages there were several from russians, one thing really upset me before i wrote why it is important for me as a jew to support ukraine and this russian man wrote some ugly and exaggerated things about ukrainian history in the context of jewish people and asked why i don't learn a real language, for example , russian, on her instagram alison talks about the history and culture of ukraine, does not pay attention to current events, tries also popularize ukrainian literature and reads poems, what does the blue one think about in old tagan, when the sky is wary of rockets, i am so and so through instagram, i met a wonderful ukrainian poet a few months ago, she turned to me and asked if i would mind reading one of her poems in ukrainian and i did it and now every time she writes a poem i try

to read it poet maria march remembers accidentally found out about alison on social networks and sent her a message that it is important to read and learn poems to learn a language we chose a poem about the war, in fact, russia and ukraine, and this also shows how much alisan sympathizes very much with the situation in ukraine, such words comfort him in that and where do they put the flags of this wrapped the coffin yurchenko tells the interest of foreigners in the ukrainian language it is not decreasing, he says many of them want to come to fight or rebuild ukraine because of that and alison is learning the language for herself. her main goal is to further popularize the ukrainian language and culture. hello everyone. this is the last year i have met people from this world .

tell me why they decided to learn ukrainian and this is what they said. hello, my name is dina yana. i started learning ukrainian in the new year. i really love ukrainian culture and language, it is the language of freedom, because ukrainians are interesting people. i want to talk to them from boston. iryna solomko pavlo terekhov voice of america download the voice of america mobile application, the application allows you to automatically bypass blocking thanks to the built-in vpn service, read the news , watch informative programs and videos, and also listen to ukrainian service podcasts to the voice of america and that's when we'll say goodbye, see also our briefings from monday to friday at 18:00 kyiv time on youtube and facebook where you can ask us your questions live and we'll try to answer them as well. follow our

web- website and social networks. thank you for staying with the voice of america in ukrainian. there you trust us. have a peaceful night and a peaceful morning. see you soon. see you soon . it is a very difficult story of the disappearance of three

sisters from the warts in the kyiv region. this is seven-year-old masha, twelve-year-old anya and 16-year-old dasha melnichenko, whose fate is unknown for more than a year, and we are asking for your help in finding them . the least you can do is share this video on your social networks. it can really help to find the girls. so the girls lived with their mother and father. this five-story building in borodyanka at the address tsentralna 326. on march 1, 22nd, a russian bomb hit their house. the girls and their parents lived on the 5th floor of this building and the bomb hit the exact place where their apartment was that day. unfortunately, people died however, neither the girls nor their parents were found among the victims; moreover, according to the words of local families, the millers every day from